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New York Giants Notes: Steve Smith's Prized Pupil

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Great piece today from my good friend Pat Traina on how New York Giants' record-setting wide receiver Steve Smith has taken Ramses Barden under his wing.

Here is a little bit of Barden talking about Smith, and his development as a receiver.

"Steve is one of the hardest working receivers in the business," Barden said. "He loves this game and is a good guy to follow around. We’ll often get extra ball drills in, extra footwork, talk about different schemes and strategies just because as young as he is, he has a lot of experience and he’s a guy I can learn from because he knows the entire offense."

Barden recalled how he’d be standing on the sidelines during games watching Smith, who almost effortlessly came up with key reception after reception. Then when the receivers would gather to watch the film from the previous week, Barden continued to marvel at what he saw from his teammate and friend, and thought to himself, ‘This is a guy I want to be like.’

"Steve runs some of the crispest routes in the league, and he’s very precise with the way he drops his hips and the finds the ball when he turns around, how he stems defensive backs, and looks for the blind spot," Barden said when asked what he admired most about Smith’s style.

"I definitely think my skills have started to grow a little bit regarding how they relate to the NFL game," Barden added. "My routes are becoming more precise. I’m better at the top whether it be getting in and out, being explosive out, being explosive out as well as in, and not giving away clues to the defense as far as not letting them know what I’m running, and being able to disguise each route regardless of the coverage or my opponent."

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Here are a few more stories of interest.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has more or less admitted that the success or failure of the 2014 Super Bowl will determine whether or not cold weather cities with outdoor stadiums are considered for future Super Bowls.

''New York is a very unique opportunity for us,'' Goodell said. ''It's the largest media market and home to two NFL teams. Let's see how the success is in New York and we'll go from there.''

Former Giants kicker Pat Summerall, who kicked one of the most historic bad weather field goals in NFL lore, worries about weather affecting the game.

"I hate to see weather be a factor in the game," Summerall said last week from his Dallas-area home. "I'm glad New York got the Super Bowl. There is no place to play like New York. But I'm sorry the outcome of the game might depend upon the weather."

The New York Times reports that a few international companies are the leading candidates to obtain the naming rights for what is currently known as the New Meadowlands Stadium

One more stadium note. The New Jersey Transit Authority has drawn the ire of some within state government with a hefty ticket purchase at the new stadium.

A couple of player notes

Defensive tackle Rocky Bernard, who had a disappointing first season in New York, has admitted to playing 2009 with a badly damaged shoulder.

"Obviously the production wasn't there while I tried to play with it," he said.
 
Just a few weeks after the season he underwent surgery to repair the damage. Now he's hopeful of beginning the 2010 season with a shoulder that's 100 percent.
 
"It'll be as good as I can get it," Bernard said. "I feel I'll be back to doing a lot of the things I was doing in Seattle. There were a lot of expectations when I came over here, so I definitely want to live up to those expectations."

The Dolphins released former Giant outside linebacker Reggie Torbor the other day. Since some of you have asked, my feeling is I don't want to see Torbor back with the Giants. He is a journeyman backup type, and I would rather see guys like Bryan Kehl and other young guys given an opportunity to continue to develop.

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Awesome article Ed

enjoyed reading it. Really hope Barden can duplicate the sucsess of Smith in the next year or so. If he can the only problem we’ll be having is which one of our five great recievers ( Im including Boss) do we throw to

by #56 4life on May 30, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Looking forward to seeing Barden this year

He seems hungry. I just can’t say enough about Steve Smith man JR did a great job finding him.

by Late for Dinner on May 30, 2010 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I think

Barden has learned a lot about what it actually takes to be successful in the NFL. It sounds like he didn’t really understand the work involved, which is the case for a lot of NFL rookies.

by Ed Valentine on May 30, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd and Linked back to Conquest Chronicles!

Thanks Ed!!

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on May 30, 2010 9:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope Steve's got em all under his wing

good dude to learn off of.

Sa da tey? OH, cole me down on the panny sty!

by FreeBradshaw on May 30, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow

Sorry Bernard for all the shit I’ve said about you.
I think it’s easier to list who wasn’t injured…

Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above

by Willgfass on May 30, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Bernard

I think this is why the Giants have not cut him. I think they want to give him an opportunity to get healthy and prove whether or not he is still a player.

by Ed Valentine on May 30, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Must be

A little surprising though, aren’t there rules against keeping injuries like this secret?

Was that “healthy scratch” earlier in the year (vs Denver I think) because of the injury?

Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above

by Willgfass on May 30, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Injuries

There is a lot of this in the NFL. The Giants had a bunch of guys in this category last season, and I think most NFL teams are the same.

by Ed Valentine on May 30, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Goiod to hear about the

Smith Barden hook-up.
If Rocky can revert to his old form, it’ll be a big plus.
The story re Summeral’s fabulous kick has the most interesting tid-bits (the quotes from Conerly and Lombardi), but there’s more to the tale. Read the Mapple Press book on the Giants coming out in Aug. (A shameless plug.)

by blue gonz on May 30, 2010 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

PS, Pat's comment re

the weather is interesting. Here’s an old-school, smashmouth “real man” expressing doubts re playing the SB in a cold weather stadium. The weather was a huge factor in two of the championship game losses the Giants suffered during their Glory Years. Pat played in both. It seems clear that those experiences influenced his opinion re weather.

“It takes a REAL MAN to stare cancer in the face and keep on smoking.” Stephen King

by blue gonz on May 30, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Smith is the perfect mentor to Barden.

Nothing but love for Smith. It is hella good that the Giants WRs are co-mingling with each other and exchanging ideas. Smith as a SB Champoin has the full spectrum of experience at such a young age to pass on. What more can Barden ask for. Can’t wait to see this guy come into his own. News like this makes you realize that the Giants are still capable dispite thier play last season and the loss of monumental talent.

Switching Gears: It is my understanding that “NFL Football” is an American sport. with that said, to name the Meadowlands stadium after a international company for the money is a sell out.

Fan's Creed: (Play well+Win=Praise) (Play Well+Lose=Praise) (Play Lousy+Win=Criticism) (Play lousy+Lose & Bandwagon Jumpers=Off with thier heads!)

by LoNJDTechnology on May 30, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

International Sponsor

I think that selling sponsoring rights in general is a sell-out… but i guess these days everyone is doing it. And having an international sponsor wouldn’t be too bad, as it may spread the word of American football.

by ItsNotaToomer on May 30, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torbor was a guy that should never have left

like Gerbil Wilson he chased the dollar signs after the SB and has been scarce heard from since. You got paid, and now your career’s in the crapper. Hope it was worth it.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on May 30, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Torbor's a bit different

I think he is a guy the Giants really didn’t try to keep. His career, honestly, is no different than when he left. Once a backup, always a backup. Never more than that.

by Ed Valentine on May 30, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I remembered it differently than that

I thought since he started some games due to other injuries he would have a chance to compete the following season. I always liked him because everyone kept talking about what a steal he was in the 4th round, but he never put it together.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on May 30, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

he was all pro on my madden team last year LOL

by #56 4life on May 30, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Torbor = Wilkenson

Torbor did a nice job in our SB run, but other than that he was a huge disappointment.

by Late for Dinner on May 30, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

One thing I'm nervous about

is how the Giants have stockpiled such talented receivers. Although this is one of those “good” dilemmas. I just want every young receiver we have to be able to fully showcase their skills. Smith is obviously our stud, Hakeem showed plenty of playmaking ability and can be a star in this league, Mario Manningham became a favorite of mine with his huge game-changing plays (Dallas week 2).. and of course Ramses who in a year or two can also be a stud. Don’t forget Hix who had a 100-yd game in one of his only starts. Love them all, want them all to do well =/ .. this year I like Ham in the slot sneaking around making big plays

by IL DUCE 89 on May 30, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

If anyone's in the slot

It should be SS in 3 WR sets… Precise routes and a lack of breakaway speed? Sounds like a Slot Receiver/Wes Welker type to me.

by Charles L on May 30, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

smith is dynamite in the slot but Ham should also get some plays there it would keep our offense less predictable and Ham can break out for a huge play any time

by IL DUCE 89 on Jun 14, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

One more stadium note. The New Jersey Transit Authority has drawn the ire of some within state government with a hefty ticket purchase at the new stadium.

It’s not NJ Transit who bought tickets for Giants/Jets games, it’s the NJ Sports and Entertainment Authority (NJSEA) who did. Because the new stadium is owned by the Jets/Giants (from article: “The agency, which neither owns nor manages the new stadium…”), they needed to buy tickets for politicians and any personnel doing business with the NJSEA or other state projects. I guess they just used to set aside a number of seats at Giants Stadium and never paid a dime because they owned and operated it.

by Matthew Ventolo on May 30, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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