Most Overrated Player in the NFL?
by GhostDini on May 29, 2010 4:22 PM EDT
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PrintBrandon Jacobs. That's what Pete Prisco of CBS Sports thinks. Even when Jacobs was getting 1,000-yard seasons in 2007 and 2008, Prisco felt that he was overrated. He thinks that "the Giants offense is significantly better when Ahmad Bradshaw, all 5-9 of him, is in the backfield."
I know that Jacobs won't make guys miss and he does run too uprightly but saying that he's the most overrated player in the NFL is too much. I'm sure there are other players making more money who have done less for their team. Roy Williams of the Cowboys and Jay Cutler of the Bears come to mind.
As for his assertion that the Giants are better with Bradshaw than Jacobs, I'm not ready to say that either. Sure. He can fit through holes in which Jacobs cannot. He can avoid tackles that Jacobs cannot. Still though, I don't trust Bradshaw's ability to pick up the blitz and with our passing game and older O-line, that's very important..
At least he recognizes that Terrell Thomas is the most underrated player on the Giants. Aaron Ross better bring it in 2010. On Giants.com, Bruce Johnson said that he feels that he still needs to earn respect from the coaches and his teammates. He's not taking anything for granted. If Ross doesn't take care of business, he could be no.4 on the depth chart.
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I agree and disagree.
I agree that Brandon is overated but nt the most overated in the NFL. When Brandon stepped up on the scene, I was like “Yo, this dude is going to murder defenses standing up” Then I saw him run and almost blew my top. Now, I know BBVers are going to ride me for saying this but thats how I see it. AB is not the complete supplement for Jacobs but he is not a complete supplement. Adjustments can be made.
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 29, 2010 4:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
My bad.
AB is not a complete supplement to jacobs but he is a supplement.
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 29, 2010 5:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bradshaw was the 2nd best RB behind Jones-Drew when picking up the Blitze. (Look it up if you doubt me)
And the most over rated Player in the NFL is Bret Favre and a far second Tom Brady.
My reason for Bret Favre for all the hype he throws an enormous amount of picks. and the only reason season he didn’t is because for some reason teams thought the Vikings were a run first team. And I still have no idea why, Brett is addicted to the pass.
Tom Brady, well I’m just a hater he is actually really accurate and his arm is way above average. I just cant stand his ass. He gets way to much time in the pocket, it’s like he get on average 2-3 seconds more than anyone else. And he has the best two 3rd down receivers in the NFL in Faulk and Welker.
I’m going to add Randy Moss to my list he runs one route Deep.
The most under rated player is Stephen Jackson I believe he’s the all around best RB in the league. He can run, catch and block.
"Freedom is the weapon of the masses."
Brett has always been overated.
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 29, 2010 6:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed on Farve
all you have to do is look at the end of his career in the playoffs twice. That is the true Farve. Somehow he got the Gunslinger moniker and people romanticized it. Dude took many a championship team out of the playoffs on stupid throws that someone like Eli would be murdered for
favres just lucky he played with reggie white
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by inventor frank on May 29, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree with the Favre bashing
But that’s a separate story I don’t want to get into
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
Define "Farve Bashing"
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 30, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Brett has always been overated
Things like these. Sure he’s not the best QB evaaar like a small minority like to think, but it’s pretty much like FB said below, one of the top QBs in the league.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
I normally agree with 98% of what you write Willgfall
You have taught me alot, but in the case of Farve:
He has only one 1 SB.
Loss twice in the Championship with two game-deciding picks.
Can’t pass well without good receivers to back him up.
Only reason he continued to start games is because of Green Bay’s unfounded loyalty to him and his reputation with the fans as a down to earth player.
That is just some of his faults. I am sure that someone else who is more statistically incline then I am at the moment can pull his numbers.
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 30, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure
Don’t feel like making an argument, so let’s agree to disagree.
Not sure if it was a typo, but is -fass, not -fall.
Will (first name) g (middle initial) fass (beginning of my last name)
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
My bad. it was a typo. Sorry about that.
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 30, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
William Garrison Fassabloniwieczki?
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Jun 2, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha
Nice try.
Not Polish
Βασιλι Γιώργος really long greek name.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
to me
you’ll always be “WillGrass”
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Jun 3, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
.....
Someone’s last name is actually that according to google.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
Is Peyton Manning overrated then?
He’s got better stats, but his winning over the years has ended up in a SB win and loss, a few championship game losses and some early exits..much like Favre.
I don’t really get it. Did anyone watch a Vikings game last year? The reason this guy was allowed to play is cuz he’s still one of the best in the game.
The Packers let him go, cuz the asshole did what he does now…doesn’t give a definitive answer till the last possible minute. If after every single one of these past few seasons, Favre says that he’s gonna play, Aaron Rodgers never plays a snap for the Packers.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 30, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
The Vikings didn't make it to the championship because of B. Farve..
but they last it because of him. Look, I am not saying that Brett is a bad QB. but he is not this savior that he has been made out to be over the years. His performance with the Jets proved that he can’t carry a team. You mentioned in your comment below that you did’t like the hype that he got, to me that the overrating that I am referring to.
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 30, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
then that's off the field hype
and yea, its annoying. On the field, no he ain’t overrated and that’s all that really matters.
And the same Vikings team as 2008 that was an average squad, didn’t make it to the championship game? The only key addition other then Favre were Percy Harvin and Phil Loadhodlt.
And the Jets? Really? Joe Namath wouldn’t have made that pile of crap 2008 team any good. Peyton Manning either.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 30, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe teams thought the Vikings were run first
cuz of Chester Taylor? He was a 1000yd RB before. Or I think they still employ Adrian Peterson?
INT’s are a bad way to say a player is overrated. Especially when the dude had a season like Farve did. Sure, at times they should probably run more..then again, sometimes Peterson should hold onto the ball.
No one really ever calls him flat out the best QB in the game, and that’s probably more so due to the INTs.
But I think Sidney Rice’s career will tell you that Farve is not overrated. Our old friend Shiancoe enjoyed his new-found fame as well.
I don’t like the hype around Farve’s life as much as anyone else, but once you get past that..he really still is one of the top 5-10 QB’s in the game.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 29, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I saw the stats
and I don’t agree with them. I saw Bradshaw get blown up and straight up miss his blocking assignment altogether many times.
Meh
Roy WIlliams isn’t over rated because everyone knows he’s a bum.
Jacobs had one bad year and now he’s the most over rated player in the league? Don’t agree with that especially since he was injured.
Agree completely with what he says about Sanchez
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
Let me get this straight...
Brandon Jacobs gets 1,009 yards rushing and 4TD’s in 2007 and in 2008 he gets 1,089 and 15TD’s and he’s the most overrated player in the NFL? Not buying it. Take a guy like Marion Barber for example, in 2007 he got 885 yards rushing and 10 TD’s and in 2008 he had 975 yards and 7TD’s. Marion Barber played in 31 out of the possible 32 games played, had 442 carries and has never rushed for 1,000 yards. BJ played 24 out of the 32 games, had 421 carries and still rushed for 1,000 yards in both seasons. For all the acclaim Marion Barber gets, he still hasn’t done what BJ has done. Most overrated I think not.
by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on May 29, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
I hate defending the Cowboys but they are a pass happy team. Since T.O. has left they’ve kind of switched but now Barber shares a lot of time two other backs
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by Jeremy Pasker on May 29, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Marion Barber is defintily one of the most overated backs in the NFL
by Late for Dinner on May 30, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Marion's used wrong.
He should be spelling one of the other backs to be as effective as he can be. I know I’m gonna get bashed for saying this, but he is one player on the Cowboys I do respect a whole lot.
+1
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by donnybaseball23 on May 30, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Prisco must've missed the part where Jacobs wore down the defense and
allowed guys like Ward and AB to do work.
If Jacobs is called an elite player, then yea..he’s overrated. I haven’t heard him called that, so I dunno that he’s overreated.
He’s one of those players you want on your team, and not on the other team…so that in itself can’t make him overrated
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Thats why the comparison.
Hasn’t BJ always shared carries?
by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on May 29, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, he has.
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 29, 2010 6:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
as a giant fan for about sixty years, it grieves me to admit that the assessment is correct. i’ve never seen any one that big ang strong who goes down so easy. i honestly feel he would be a better linebacker. if he only played half as good as he talks he would be fine but he soesn’t.
I guess
You must have missed the Ron Dayne years.
I don’t think Jacobs goes down easily. He just does move the pile as much as you expect a guy like hime to do, and he has little or ability to escape a tackle.
by Tucker Fredrickson on May 29, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Were he overrated,
would he not have been an All-Pro or a Pro Bowler? Some Giants fans might think he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I believe most recognize him to be as FB describes, a guy, “…you want on your team and not on the other.”
When you think
top teir running backs, you think of Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson, and maybe even Ray Rice or Thomas Jones. I dont think anyone puts Brandon Jacobs in the same teir as those guys, so therefore I dont believe he is overrated
pete prisco = laron landry?
"No disrespect to the batter," Figueroa said, "but tacos are good."
by inventor frank on May 29, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Well...
That’s why he’s working for CBS.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Prisco is an idiot BUT.....
jacobs is a bit overated.. i think us as giants fans dont overrate him, but the rest of the league looking at the giants’ (used to be) best running attack in the NFL, see jacobs and think “hes an unstoppable force, look how big he is.” jacobs was seen as the symbol for the giants punishing rushing attack in 2007 and 2008. Giants fans know he was just a part of a much larger system, an important part, but just a part nontheless.. his bruising style gave the giants thier fuck you up kind of reputation. so to the rest of the leauge, jacobs IS the giants reputation.. to giants fans, hes a part of it… unfortunatly i have to somehwat agree with prisco… jacobs is very overrated by the rest of the league.. but not by our team… the most overrated in the league?? i think not.. that belongs to Kevin Kolb
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by Plaxico Burress on May 30, 2010 3:00 AM EDT reply actions
Most overrated player in the NFL?
Jay Cutler.
“the Giants offense is significantly better when Ahmad Bradshaw, all 5-9 of him, is in the backfield.”
Agree.
"With the game on the line. I want the ball in my hands."
-E
by tito (eight and oh) on May 30, 2010 3:26 AM EDT reply actions
Tony Romo
Is the most over rated player in the NFL.
by mypisceannature on May 30, 2010 3:40 AM EDT reply actions
Don't agree
While I hate the guy, he’s pretty solid.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
+10000
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 30, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I did not say he was terrible.
just that the media over rates his ability to a higher degree than anyone else in the NFL.
by mypisceannature on May 31, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Which New York running back duo will have more fantasy value next season?
Michael Fabiano of NFL.com
I’ll take the Jets’ duo of Shonn Greene and LaDainian Tomlinson over Giants RBs Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw. That’s mostly due to the upside of Greene, who I think has far more potential than any other running back in the Big Apple. Sure, Tomlinson will cap Greene’s statistical upside a bit, but I still believe Greene has 1,000-yard potential and should score double-digit touchdowns in 2010.
good.
let em. In hindsight, everyone wants to knock the Giants for not re-signing Derrick Ward.
Well, how about Alan Faneca not at LG and the loss of the quietest 1400 yards in NFL history with Thomas Jones? Mark that down, the Jets running game takes a step back this year. Shonn Greene I think is good, but LdT? Really? Teams loaded up for Rivers and the pass, and he still did squat.
I don’t think the Giants have 2 1000yd rushers this year, but I think its more effective then last year even if I don’t think they rush for much more yards.
Greene might be the only 1000yd rusher in NY, maybe I’ll give em that. But if you average 65yds over 16 games, you get 1000yds, so who cares?
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by FreeBradshaw on May 30, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they cut Tomlinson
Never liked him. Big cry baby. Jets don’t need him
A lot of the time
these guys, during the times that they are unknown /not famous, they are really “underrated”. When they start making plays here or there, and gain some popularity among the fans, then somehow they gain the “overrated” status.
Just see it for what it is – Prisco understands that what he says about BJ could be polarizing and he’s probably excited that his name was mentioned here, and that it might stir up something among Giants fans. his job is to create news if there is none, and “stirring the pot” is one way to generate discussion.
Though I AM starting to like AB more than BJ.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
T.O.
as in Team Obliterator!
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Stay thirsty my friends.
Rediculous Statement calling Jacob's the "MOST OVERATED" in the NFL......
I’ve never seen BJ’s name mentioned with the top backs in the league. So that being said, how can he be over rated. He’s been a pretty consistent player since he’s in the league aside from last season, when more than one circumstance contributed to his lackluster season. The O-Line under achieved, BJ’s attempt to take less hits by trying to juke people didn’t help, and the fact that he had a knee injury that he played with all year with was another factor. BJ can get back to 2008 if he gets back to running to the hole and getting momentum going downhill. When he runs that way I don’t know of anyone in the NFL that wants to be on the other side trying to tackle him. We also need that 3rd back (ala Ward) for the running game to be effective. I’m looking for BJ to have a good year on 2010.
Jacobs is definitely a bit overrated
He is nothing special… it was all the OL. But I can list you 10 more overrated players in the NFL in a second.
Also the Giants offense definitely worked better with Jacobs than with Bradshaw last year – I do not know why but to me it always looked like we weren’t really moving the ball when Bradshaw was on the field.
by mclaren_is_the_best on May 31, 2010 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
I saw a list yesterday of the ten
most overrated players in the NFL yesterday. Sorry I didn’t bring it up for discussion. Jacobs was # 10; Eli, 7or8. The arguments for placements on the list were rational but thin. They were based on $ earned w/o reference to $ earned by possible competitors for the spot. E.g., The writer flatly stated that, if asked, the Cowboy and the Packers would reject a atraight up trade of Romo or Rogers for Eli. I’ll try to track it down again so I can cite it and BBVers can throw rocks at it.
Eli overrated...
Maybe 2006, but no one can say that now.
People bash him so much he’s practically under rated now.
Against all odds, against all circumstance were you don't have a shot, you succeed
-Michael Strahan
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Same as above
always the $$
"What's your plan?? Rob Fort Knox on elephant back? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard....."
Just an observation
The only people that can overrate are the media, they are the ones that engage in all the ratings stuff, because it can create a controversy and fill up space and air time.
And now the same media is creating an over-rated list.
Who overrates Jacobs?
Coughlin/Gilbride?? They had 4 injured RBs, and he and Bradshaw shouldered the burden as best they could.
The fans? How can the fans overrate anything, anyone that reads this space can see a variety of opinion on anything, up to how tall you can be and play OG.
For me Prisco’s list = NOISE, When all the pieces were together in 2008 the offense looked nearly unstoppable, especially in the 4th Qtr. Was he really overrated then?
Prisco = maroon, Whatta Maroon, ignoranimus
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