Ramses Barden

I don’t think it’s a matter of having to pay you dues. Barden was inactive because the Giants didn’t feel he would contribute on offense or on special teams. Derek Hagan couldn’t contribute on offense either, but he could play some special teams, which made him more worthy of a spot on the active roster.

in the 3rd round to get a player on offence for say ten plays a game and contribute on special teams does not sound like a smart JR move – he has more in mind for Ramses.

I thing Barden played at a small college and needs to learn how to beat press coverage and run proper routes.

Once he does that he will become the 4th WR so that you have Nicks and Barden out wide and SS and MM in the slot – now that is a scary foursome.

You need to play special teams as well since you probably wont see the field that much on offense. He wasn’t going to pass Nicks, Smith, Manningham and Hixon on the depth chart anyhow, at least not in his first year.

to move up to get Ramses.

Ramses is a personal favorite of mine since i watched him at camp last year abusing the shit outta our secondary.

Not that it would be that bad, but my fear is that Smith, Nicks, and Manningham get off to a hot start…..the giants love anointing guys after a good start © Manningham last year. But seriously, if those 3 start hot, look for Ramses to ride the pine…..

Does anyone really think TC and KG will be calling 4 WR sets???? I just don’t see it….

and here’s another news flash…..ramses barden is not a gunner, for the love of god, don’t ask him to do that! He’s not a special teams player, he’ll never contribute in that area of the game….he’s too tall and lanky….I can get leverage on him.

So the Special TEams excuse is neat and all, but it doesnt’ hold water…..Ramses ain’t a special teams guy!

I thought the logic was just fine for not playing Ramses last year. He should play this year and rotate in.

I think entirely too many people are blind to the fact this dude came from Cal Poly. He didn’t have much of a clue on top flight competition.

He didn’t have to play. He had to prove himself on Special teams………….because the guys ahead of him on the depth chart were important parts on Special teams.

So if you’re going to use Barden over these important parts of Special teams….well, Barden god damn well better be able to play that part. He couldn’t..so Barden doesn’t play.

Hopefully he either learns to do that this year cuz as the 4th WR…you gotta do that. They ALL do.

If it’s Manning to Barden in the corner for 3 TDs, and Barden has only 3 catches and plays only 3 plays, I’ve got no problem with that. How many times have we been in or near the green zone, wishing we had someone to fill Plax’s shoes? Luckily our other guys are coming on strong so it wasn’t as bad this past season.
Don’t give me this Moss crap, though. He sucked, has sucked, and will continue to suck overall ; he joins the ever-growing list of Giants who have “potential.”
The time that he actually did play, he did nothing even related to “special” except that he was on special teams. Oh wait, he did do well in the preseason games. Moss took up a slot and that’s about all. Time to suit up and head for the corner, Barden.

much like this years number one pick.

Physically gifted, and a little raw, He’l be given every chance to succeed just give him the time it takes to grow into a 6’6" frame.

last year, your attention is misdirected, Barden will get his opportunities when he is ready, the real dissapointment was Beckum, he’s the one who had a package of about 6-8 plays designed specifically for him, so this post should be about Travis not Ramses, Barden is actually right on schedule.

This is what Coughlin does

1- We draft a rookie. Likely a project
2- Coughlin lets that rookie know that he has to impress him
3- The rookie works hard
4- Coughlin puts him strictly on special teams to test his work ethic and desire
5- Coughlin then calls out the rookie for not making any strides
6- The rookie answers the challenge and upgrades his level of play
7- A veteran is released
8- The rookie then starts.

It’s Coughlin’s gimmick as a coach. “Special teams, first”. Bill Belichick is the same way. People are always talking about how our drafts (2008,09) does not contribute immediately as rookies but most of it is because of Coughlin. He doesn’t like to play rookies and force them into play time. He makes them work for it.

Ramses Barden is a beast, though. Let’s not forget why he was drafted. Barden is a guy with a huge wingspan, huge hands, and very good speed for his size. If he can polish up his route running he will have a good level of production this year

Did I find myself thinking during a game:

“Man, if Barden were out there, this could have been a different game.”

And that’s probably because I’ve never seen him play football before.

I’m sure the coaches know what they’re doing, they are afterall the same coaches who helped Steve Smith become the black Wes Welker.

I know that I am probably beating a dead horse, but The Giants will make him a regular soon enough .

I caught myself thinking about Barden way too often last year during games. I’m glad to see I was not alone. I can’t wait to see him line up with the starters in the Red Zone (hopefully this year)…

Barden wil get his attempts in the red zone this year. He has had a year to learn and it will start paying a few dividends this season. Barden is also not a ST. Some guys are ST some aren’t. 6’6" WR don’t line up as a gunner, they just don’t. To be brutally honest I would have rather had Barden riding the pine last year, instead of playing ST. A majority of injuries are caused on ST, and I would rather have Barden learning key fundamentals and techniques, then rehabbing an injury caused on ST.