With the 46th pick ... a historical look

by Ed Valentine on Apr 6, 2010 7:00 AM EDT in New York Giants News

As fans we spend tons of time worrying and arguing about who our New York Giants should take in the first round of the upcoming NFL Draft. It is easy to forget there is more than one round to a draft, and that success in subsequent rounds is what truly makes or breaks a draft.

To me, the second round is particularly important. Many of the players available in the second round are first-round type players who have fallen because of need or a perceived flaw that has teams leery of making them their first selection. Yet, great players (Michael Strahan, Tiki Barber) can be found in Round 2.

The Giants select midway through this year's second round, 46th overall. Let's look at the players who have been selected in that spot the past 10 years.

2000: Adrian Klemm, T, Hawaii (New England Patriots) -- Had an undistinguished five-year career with the Patriots and Packers as a sometimes starter.

2001: Aaron Schobel, DE, Texas Christian (Buffalo Bills) -- Two Pro Bowls during an excellent career with the Bills. May retire.

2002: Tim Carter, WR, Auburn (New York Giants) -- Umm, we know the story here. Lots of speed, fragile as glass, not much of a career. Let's move on.

2003: Drayton Florence, CB, Tuskegee (San Diego Chargers) -- A starter with three different teams during his seven-year career.

2004: Justin Smiley, G, Alabama (San Francisco 49ers) -- A good player, though one with chronic shoulder issues. Started for the Dolphins in 2009, but they are reportedly shopping him.

2005: Matt Roth, DE, Iowa (Miami Dolphins) -- Waived by the Dolphins and claimed by Cleveland in 2009. Never more than a rotational guy, it appears.

2006: Joe Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado (St. Louis Rams) -- Mostly a blocking tight end. Probably not the impact you would like to get from the 46th pick.

2007: LaMarr Woodley, LB, Michigan (Pittsburgh Steelers) -- With 25 sacks in the past two seasons Woodley is easily the best player drafted at 46 in the last 10 seasons. If only the Giants can hit a home run like this.

2008: Jerome Simpson, WR, Coastal Carolina (Cincinnati Bengals) -- A flop. Only one reception in two seasons. Makes Tim Carter look like an All-Pro.

2009: Connor Barwin, DE, Cincinnati (Houston Texans) -- Had 4.5 sacks in 13 games as a reserve. The jury is still out.

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That's a lot of solid players

Kinda funny that the Steelers were in this spot and drafted 2 LB’s that are now continuing their tradition of great LB play.

Matt Roth is actually pretty good too.

I don’t really think the history of these picks matters tho. JR’s a good drafter. I think that’s all that’s needed.

If none of the rooks he drafts get hurt…they’ll be good. That’s pretty much been proven.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 6, 2010 7:24 AM EDT reply actions

It seems

Like LB is the safe pick in both the 15th and 46th picks.

Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

by gobs56 on Apr 6, 2010 7:40 AM EDT reply actions

or safety @ 46

in a safety rich draft that is probably a good value pick.

All this conversation is pretty interesting and it kills time as we wait for the draft but unless one can see the Giant’s draft board – how they see priorities and how they evaluate talent – this is just an exercise.

But a fun one.

I’ll continue to hope for McClain at 15 and Sean Jones at 46. Fat chance.

by MSP Giant on Apr 6, 2010 7:51 AM EDT reply actions

JR on LBs

He was adamant about having a WR crew that – with Nicks – was good enough and he was right.

This year he comments about Wilkersen, Goff and even Kehl at MLB – prehaps as a bluff.

I do know one thing,

All three were highly thought of when drafted and none of the three seems to have done anything to indicate that they do not have talent. Injuries and inconsistency. Goff did OK but did not distinguish in his trial late last year. Maybe, just maybe, one of them comes on and is actually a better than average NFL MLB.

I can dream.

by MSP Giant on Apr 6, 2010 7:56 AM EDT reply actions

How about...

After building up our safety position and relying on the d-line aquisitions from last year, we package the 1st and 3rd pick to jump up and finally get a play-making linebacker like McClain. With injuries in the past, this team doesn’t have any glaring needs.

The harder you work... the luckier you get!

by BigBlueFanatic on Apr 6, 2010 8:00 AM EDT reply actions

I like McClain

but not sure about giving up a third to get him.

And I do think safety is a glaring need until we know more about Phillips.

Agree on DT. If 2 of 4 play like they are capable of and the other two do OK they make a decent four man rotation and Giants will be fine.

DE? Depends on the Osi saga

by MSP Giant on Apr 6, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions

IMO safety is no longer a GLARING need

I think if KP comes back even 85-90% and Ross is healthy and conditioned for at least the back end of the season, I would argue the DB’s are now stacked. Without those two I think I would still consider our DB’s to good to go and comparing us to our NFC East rivals, I think we are sitting in a great spot! (didn’t Grant start in Seattle?). Not to mention Fewell has done a great job with lesser talent in the back field for that other, YES… NY team!

by NYCGMEN on Apr 6, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions

It would actually work with JAX. There will be plenty for them at #15 and we get what we want at #10.

Bleeding Blue since 1962

by sunlion333 on Apr 6, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Tim Carter is one of those names

that should not be brought up in decent company.

by brisulph on Apr 6, 2010 8:17 AM EDT reply actions

Interesting

I really hope the Giants pick better players at both the 15th and 46th picks. I think Jerry “The Genius” Reese will be fine. I have confidence in that man.

Go New York Giants!!

by RobDomaine on Apr 6, 2010 8:53 AM EDT reply actions

Tim Carter had some value

as a trade for Droughns who was a pretty good special teamer lol

by bigblue777 on Apr 6, 2010 9:03 AM EDT reply actions

Ed, are we going to do a second round in our mock?

I know the poll seemed to show interest, but nothing has been happening on that front. This is interesting and I agree with your comments that the second round is more unpredictable, but still filled with quality prospects. I know you have tons of other stuff to do, and this site takes a lot of time and effort, so I’ll be fine either way on it, would just like to know is all.

by Cranky50 on Apr 6, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions