Dallas Draft Board leaked (giant picks ranked)
The guys over at Blogging The Boys have a leaked picture of the Cowboys draft board. Based on the layout, It seems like the original board was filled with individual magnetic strips with the players name and measurements (see Jerry's hand). When the players were drafted their card was removed from the board and replaced with: players last name, first initial. team, round-pick (ex. Joseph, L. NYG 2-46). So, at the time when this picture was taken, all the remaining player cards represent players still available. Also, It looks like Jerry is in the process of taking Clay Harbor (Eagles 4-125) off the board. Dallas drafted right after Philly and took Akwasi Owusu-Ansah at 126. According to their board, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah was the BPA at the time (4-1) and, presumably, that's part of the reason they took him.
Original post can be found here
This additional post has a great consolidated spreadsheet of the entire board. It also lists all the "notable" players who are absent from the board.
Giant Picks ranked (rd-pick)
1-16. Jason Pierre-Paul
4-13. Linval Joseph
3-8 or 9. Chad Jones *see note
4-18. Mitch Petrus
?-? Phillip Dillard **
7-? Adrian Tracy
Some interesting rankings:
1-14. Sean Lee (WOW)
1-20. Navarro Bowman
1-22. Tyson Alualu
2- 5. Brandon Graham
2- 16. Jimmy Clausen
3- 1. Sergio Kindle
3- 2. Anthony Davis
6-1. Jared Veldheer
* Chad Jones' name should be written on the board but, Its probably obscured by Jerry's arm/hand. If i had to take a guess, they ranked him at rd 3, pick 8-9. (look at the spots covered by Jerry's hand).
** Phillip Dillard's name should also be written on the board since he went at 115. But i can't find it for the life of me...the guy who does gets a cookie...
I've spent the last hour looking for the ranks of our draft class, but I always sucked at playing Where's Waldo as a kid, so maybe you guys will have better luck.
Also, please note that teams rank players on different criteria (schemes etc) so these ranks shouldn't validate (or invalidate) particular picks. Nevertheless, it's pretty interesting...
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Jerry's board
I think the names are written so small so that only Jerry can read them.
I found it interesting that all of these OL like Veldheer and Ducasse that everyone declared to be classic Dallas OL were ranked so low by them.
Misi is rated just ahead of Hughes and Graham, which is definitely a first.
Sill shocked at Lee's rank
the 14th BPA….Really, Jerry? It looks like they had Dez ranked between Iupati (10) and Bulaga (13). Earl thomas should be somewhere in their too, probably at 12. That makes Dez 11.
I cant imagine the circle jerk that ensued after they grabbed lee at 55.
And Navarro Bowman at 20th is worse. How would it have been if the Cowboys took Sean Lee in the first round?
How funny
it would be it he becomes an all pro and the only reason the Cowboys got him because they traded with the Eagles.
by G Fan in England on Apr 29, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
It was a no-brainer for the Eagles. Drop down 4 spots from 55 to 59 and pick up an extra 4? Yes, please.
To
a team that swept you last year and knocked you out of the playoffs.
You are right a no brainer.
by G Fan in England on Apr 29, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you suggesting that because the Cowboys beat the Eagles last year, we shouldn’t make moves that help our team if it means trading with the Cowboys?
Actually, don’t even answer that… We already had this totally moronic debate over at BGN, and I don’t have the patience to go down this road again.
not to continue that train of thought
but related: I mean, if it’s a division rival who desperately wants your spot, is the price higher than some team you’re not going to play for three years? Say the Giants wanted McClain at #10 and it was Philly’s spot … obviously Philly would look to see if the Raiders (hypothetical) wanted the spot for the same price, right?
Or is there NO aspect of elbowing out rivals at the draft?
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Apr 29, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Who is the question too?
There is a report on MTD that the Eagles refused to trade with the Jags because they claimed an injured waiver player last year?
How true that is we do not know – but the Eagles show no fear in trading with anyone within the division.
by G Fan in England on Apr 29, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Whatever makes you better I guess
but it also has to make you better to a greater degree than your division rival. If I’m the Giants with the No. 1 pick and the Cowgirls need their franchise quarterback, I’m trading it to Oakland for the #5 before Dallas for the #4, as long as that doesn’t kill the pick I want.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Apr 29, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
you also gotta go by what the Eagles may have had on their board
Probably for the same reason the Giants passed on Lee…the Eagles could give a crap if they took him.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 30, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
makes you wonder right?
how the hell do they have that board like that?
I guess they really wanna fill that ILB spot if they’re considering need to rank a player that high I guess (somewhere…a Giants fan in love with the LB spot became a Cowboy fan..good riddance I say!)
Sean Lee is a good player, but damn…do you take into account the dude is Mr.Glass? And Bowman ain’t exactly an iron horse either
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 29, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
They value linebackers, and completely undervalue offensive linemen. That’s why they have 4 starters on their O Line this year that will all be 32 by the end of the season.
that only can go so far...
Plus, they still have okung/williams and Bulaga rated pretty high….They pretty much had to be $@#ing enamored with Lee AND get substantial clearance from their medical team to have him at 14…..friggin 14! wtf
Sean Lee
Is like a young clone of Keith Brooking for Dallas, so yeah they are going to be high on him based on what Brooking did for Dallas’ defense.
If you visit
BTB you will have seen a series of great articles about how the Cowboys draft based on specific size, weight and I think speed.
Any player that does not meet that profile for the position concerned is therefore not seeb as someone the Cowboys would normally draft.
That is why they have some players ranked high and some ranked low – it is just their profiling system.
So in that respect we agreed with the Cowboys on JPP and C Jones, got abonus in Petrus.
by G Fan in England on Apr 29, 2010 4:02 AM EDT reply actions
I think I can say with relative certainty...
that Sean Lee was NOT the Giants 14th overall ranked player.
That is….unless Linval Joseph was ranked higher then #14!
Sean Lee isn't that bad
He isn’t that athletic but I think its more because of the fact that he was recovering from ACL surgery and he was dinged up most of the year. He was a top 20 prospect if he declared 2 years ago (he was a sideline-to-sideline OLB with 138 tackles pre-acl injury. yes, i did my research on this guy LOL). But yes, 14th overall is way too high. More like 40th overall is fine. I still think he’ll be a better player than McClain is the pros.
Bowman isn’t that bad either. He’s a beast. He only fell to the 3rd round because of his off-field issues and his height. If McClain can tackle like that guy I’d be all over him
i can't believe it....JJ had Linval in the 4th round????
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
while i agree that LJ is more of a 4-3 DT....
i have heard a lot of rumblings that he could play Nose.
so while i understand scheme plays a part i was still a bit surprised by that.
but at the end of the day….isin’t JJ the “final answer” in Dallas?
Thanks why I’m not putting too much stock into Dallas’ board…..
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
He has the size to play 34 NT at 330 lbs
but his game film doesn’t show him playing with the functional strength needed to be a 34 NT.
irrelevant
unless that bias found it’s way into LJ’s evaluation, it would not effect his draft grade and rank.
Yup.
but it ain’t our board.
For all we know, Reese had Joseph as the #14 overall player.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 29, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Before draft season
A lot of scouting places had him as a 3-4 round prospect. A fast 40 and high number of lifts on the bench moved him up boards. Other swho may have still gone by game tape rather than gym stats might have kept him low. I think reese took the same approach he did with JPP. The kid is a raw athlete that hopefully can be taught to use that.
Mayock said a couple of days ago
He plays like a 4th rounder on film but will go to the 3rd round because of his size, strength, and potential. So much for that, lol. Some teams gave him a 1st round grade (San Diego) so teams had mixed opinions.
Bada-Bing, indeed.
You’re right, the Al Davis-led Raiders really screwed up in the Draft this year, while the Giants picked to perfection. What a zinger! Too bad it didn’t really work out like that.
What’s with all the Raider hate on here? Believe it or not, a few Raider fans are also NY Giants fans. Can’t we all just get along? There’s no rivalry there at all. Or are you just pissed because the Raiders “stole” McClain? Don’t worry, if last year was any indication, a high draft pick is more than attainable for the Giants.
With that being said… GO GIANTS & RAIDERS. All the way to the Super Bowl.
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by 5_Giant_Raider_Clipper_Laker_13 on Apr 29, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The hate
comes from the last 7 years of ineptitude the Raiders have shown. The good majority of people don’t remember the Raiders were once good, or even care.
In a different direction, what do you think about having Campbell as the QB now for the Raiders?
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
I don't hate the Raiders
Al Davis is known as grading players more based upon height/weightworkout #s rather than game film. Davis has traditionally drafted players that had amazing measurables, but who many teams would have graded lower based on actuall game play. While it can be argued that having the best athletic abilities gives a player the most potential upside, I’d venture there is a reason football teams aren’t consistently drafting track stars and body builders. While those athletes would have amazing measurables they don’t have a knowledge and feel for the game and they lack valuable learning experience placing them far behind the curve of players who ave been preparing to play football practically their entire life. If you look at what Jerry Reese did this year it has the look of a traditional Al Davis draft. The top three picks have ideal height/weight protypical size and work out #s, but are questionable based on actuall game play and experience. Linval Joseph was described as having the game film of a 4th round grade player, but whose workout #s and size would drive him up boards. JPP has been descrived as a raw impressive athlete who doesn’t even understand basic football schemes. Chad Jones a physically imposing safety with limited football experience. When asked what Reese liked most about JPP the first words out of his mouth were something like “He’s long” when it came time to talk about Joseph it was “He’s massive.” So do I hate the Raiders? no. I’m annoyed we drafted the way Al Davis traditionally does. Oddly enough this year the Raiders took McClain who grades out much higher based on game film than he does based on measurables. The Raiders actually have a chance of getting better. They have some good players on that roster and could play some good defense. Now that tey are finally giving up on the Russel project their chances improve drastically.
I'm not hating on the Raiders
Just making a small joke. In fact, I’m hoping that they win the AFC West. But, you cannot deny that they’ve made some huge blunders with player personnel decisions the last few years. DHB at 7 last year, Mike Mitchell in the 2nd round, trading a 1st rounder for Seymour… None of those were great decisions
by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 29, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Surprised you'ld pay Reese such a big compliment
Davis is a member of the Hall of Fame, and is probably the most shrewd operator of a football franchise ever!
You’ve just said that you expect Reese to go to the Hall of Fame. Even I a Reese fan think that is a bit far fetched.
say it aint so
“Davis is a member of the Hall of Fame, and is probably the most shrewd operator of a football franchise ever!”
maybe 7 years ago that was true…tell me u would rather have him as are GM ,just so you can lose all cred.
didn't say that
Just that Reese was compared to a Hall of Famer, how is that not a compliment?
Davis may be past his prime now, but he still has the bust in Canton.
Al Davis will be a hall of famer for what he did 40-20 years ago
right now he is a very bad GM and I really doubt anyone who follows football closely would say that they would rather have 70 year old Al Davis as the GM of his football team rather than 40(?) year old Jerry Reese
by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 30, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
He is a hall of famer
Inducted in 1992.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Al Davis is not in the HOF for his current GM impersonations
The man was the AFL commish that played a huge part in merging the AFL with the NFL creating the NFL we all know and love. THAT is why he is in the HOF. He also is that rare entity who has been a commish, a personnel man, a coach , and an owner. Funny that you get huffy about someone putting “words in your mouth” but try to stretch out that comparing Reese’s current draft style to Al Davis is callign Reese a HOF. That’s a hoot.
Al Davis = HOF, comparing Reese to Davis is a Hoot
Al Davis = visionary, leader, great talent evaluator, innovator.
I’m not going to lie and say I think the Raiders have drafted well since 2002, but the single big mistake he made was drafting JaMarcus Russell. A guy that didn’t have great measureables, over a guy with great combine numbers Calvin Johnson.
So its funny that Reese is being compared to Davis as drafting on measureables this year.
I don’t particularly like the selection of JPP. I thought that getting Bulaga to play RT was a slam dunk, a chance to really super charge the OL. But I give Reese credit, because getting a RT in round 1 is like just making contact. He’s trying to get a difference maker.
For Quarterbacks the biggest measureable is how far you can throw the ball
And Russell could throw it like 80 yards on his knees
by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 30, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
and accuracy...probably more so accuracy.
and Russel had a 67% completion % at LSU his junior year. So its really not like if he showed it in the drills, he didn’t show it in college. Cuz he did.
The main component with these guys is work ethic. Russell didn’t and still doesn’t have any of it (he was overweight the whole draft process..).
What the real problem with Davis’ picks is between the ears…their brain. Michael Huff has always had a sense of entitlement that he doesn’t work his ass off from his days at Texas.
Nnamdi Asomugha was a freak athlete too. What sets him apart is the fact he’s a very bright dude who works hard.
That’s what the Giants picks are praised for. All freaks…tho inexperienced. But hard nosed football players who were good and productive and have very good work ethics. Especially JPP.
So this is not an Al Davis draft. This is a Jerry Reese draft.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 30, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Theme here comparing Giants picks to Raiders approach
But that is a real stretch
Raiders typically took guys that would have been there later, and that isn’t true of the Giants choices.
Titans take JPP if Giants don’t, so his value was clearly 15th -16th pick
Joseph was the 8th DT selected, clearly the “experts” were wrong about the general value of DTs in this draft, unless one of them predicted 12 to get drafted in the first 3 rounds. A bunch of them had Cody as a #1 pick at some point. He went 3rd round.
The entire Giants draft had a theme – Tough, Power, Mean. I think that the front office had the same impression as many fans that the defense stopped trying. Each of the defensive draft picks (and Mitch Petrus too!) have the rep as nasty players. They weren’t filling positions so much as re-making its personality.
value of players this year
DTs went earlier than expected than any other position. Once Peters and Smith were gone in the 3rd, there was not much left. MLBs went early too – three in the second, Butler in the 3rd, Sharpton and Dillard in the 4th. Blocking TEs did well also. Interior linemen fell. I think only 3-4 centers were drafted, and guards like Petrus fell late.
exactly.
The Raiders reach for their “freaks”. Also…the Raiders have been poorly coached for years. ALSO, when they had Gradkowski in there at QB, aka a dude who actually doesn’t suck so bad he loses the game…the Raiders were pretty good.
We got good coaching. I don;t mind drafting the “AL Davis” way, even if the way Reese drafted this year is probably anything but that.
Robbie Cano...do YOU know?
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 30, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions

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