Draft Countdown's Scott Wright analyzes Giants' draft

I know its a need and I feel so do the Giants. But the price to move up and get McClain, most likely cost our 1st, 2nd and 4th rounder. You just do not do that.

The fact they got a DE, DT and then the MLB…makes that non trade favor heavily in the Giants side of things.

If JPP, Joseph and the rest who are here (whoever the hell it may be) return this line to pre end of 2008 levels, it doesn’t really matter which among our MLB candidates it is.

You just don’t do that sort of trade. Maybe if it was just a 1st and 3rd..then OK. Cuz they they can get Joseph in the 2nd.

A MLB just can’t play well without a DL in front of him to do good. And well…if you trade most of your draft for a MLB and then go with the same characters as last year…that’s setting yourself up for an epic disaster next year and encouraging your brand new MLB worth 3 draft picks to bust and become a failure.

Giants made the right move. You just don’t trade up for McClain that far. Whether it turns out well..stay tuned.

The Giants didnt feel Ro Mac was worth jumping up for, this MLB class was not that good and Rolando who is good beneftted off of that, he is a late first any other year so thats why they didnt reach for him. As for coefield I said yesterday that he would be the odd man out logically, I said it was clear to me because they signed Canty and Bernard at a time that BC was playing his best, even though he got injured it showed they were willing to part with him and then the drafting of Linval just made it clear that BC is on his way out, I think tampa wouldve been very interested had they not been able to get Price.

A 2nd or 3rd round pick to move up to draft McClain would have been a bad move. We had multiple discussions prior to the draft about that being too high of a price to pay. I think our consensus was something regarding a fourth rounder to move up which would have been perfect for us, but probably not worth it to others. Seeing as he went 8th overall, I don’t think we could have put together a good enough package to move up 7 spots. Hopefully Phillip Dillard doesn’t end up playing like Phyllis Diller and he is our diamond in the rough.

Disclaimers:
1. Yes, I know that I don’t know sh@! about college talent, and that JR & Co. have 50 experts doing thousands of hours of work.
2. Who knows, maybe RoMac is a bust and JPP is the next Bruce Smith.

However, with my fan mentality, you know, kid in a candy store… I really wish the Giants had moved into RoMac, if possible, for their 1st & 3rd. I see Dillard as Blackburn 2.0 … and honestly, had the Giants moved picks or players to make that 1st round switch… especially at the 10 pick or so … I think you guys would be rejoicing in the streets, rather than gradually convincing ourselves & accepting that the one player 75% of us did NOT want is our #1 pick!

Okay, I’ll bend over now.

or they traded up for JPP.

I believe em when they said JPP was the #6 overall player in the entire draft…..I wonder where they had McClain?

Beatty at LT
Diehl to RT
Seubert to super sub

Not necessarily advocating this but it is an interesting idea and worth a comment or two.

“Dillard has a muscular build and a strong lower half. Reads his keys well, reacts fast and has a good initial burst. Takes proper pursuit angles, maintains leverage tracking the ball and has the top-end speed to be a sideline-to-sideline player. Tough kid who fights to the whistle.”

Let’s not forget how McNabb danced around our D-line with ease—-we need guys who can close the pocket and sack slippery bastards like McNabb. Secondly, as mentioned if we can stop the run and pressure the QB—-that will help the LB’s and Dbacks tremendously.
I know McClain is the top LB but that doesn’t always mean he’ll become NFL talent. I know he’s good, but is there a lot of hype because the LB’s coming out are weak overall. Trading away picks would have hurt the Giants.

still hate the JPP pick, but I loved everything else the Giants did. I have high, high hopes for both Linvall and Chad Jones, and wouldn’t be shocked in the least if either of them perform at first round levels, which means that even if JPP is a bust, it doesn’t hurt the Giants too much.

And as much as I would have loved McClain and dislike the JPP pick, I agree with what Free said in the first comment: you can’t justify trading away all the late round picks to move up for him. The Giants made great use of those later picks. Even though I disagree with who they took at 15, I think they did a great job with the rest of those picks. Overall, I rate this draft a B

a better chance of getting a good player but you have to be skilled at drafting still, if you are a bad GM with a 100 picks then it doesnt matter like Matt Millen or like when KC had 14 picks a few yrs back and did nothing with it, but you see what happens when Bilichick and co. have a ton of picks, they hit on all of them basically ( well it would seem so right now) and still came away with 4 in next years first 2 rounds….. those guys are masters of the board even though they draft strictly need.

What does this mean? Are the Giants looking to acquire/deal/etc? More speculation, please!

This team had multiple needs, you cant fix every need in one off-season. So instead of going all out for McClain, we filled multilpe needs, and possibly filled a position at DE before it becomes a need.

Whether you were on board with the JPP pick or not (which I wasnt) you have to now love his upside. If he fulfills his potential he could dominate like Mario Williams or Julius Peppers (when he decides to turn it on).

they’re certainly gonna have to separate the wheat from the chaff. I think the real question becomes, who are our 4 best DTs (Joseph, Canty, Alford, Cofield) and what can we get in exchange for whatever’s left over… How many DTs do they traditionally carry? Might be the same or less given the versatility of some of these guys like Canty, Tuck…

you improve the D-Line so that the LB’s you have can play to their strengths. The LB corp had to cover way too many wholes in the D-line and simply were out of position all the time. The Draft improved the line so LB’s should improve as well. The addition of a good tackler like Dillard will just make it that much better. I still think we need to bring in a vetearn LB to tutor the young guys for a year and we will be in good shape. Not a top 5 defense by light years ahead of last year.

out on a limb and say Wilkinson gets hurt. I know, I know a bold prediction you say. That’s how I roll though. I will also predict that Eli wins the starting QB position.

I have been wondering the same thing. I remeber right before Plaxico shot himself, the Giants were putting hin in the game but using him as a decoy. Then when he started complaining about not getting the ball, the sports media started talking smack about him not being a team player and all.

Now, they are doing the same thing with Osi. Personally, I don’t think that Osi should even be getting criticized. He was one of the most consistent players on the team. For the life of me, I cannot understand why this player is catching the hell he has been receiving lately.

Whats sad about this is he can’t tell the fans whats really going on. I think that it has something to do with his contract. You know that they put clauses in there which state that if they reach so many yards in rushing; make so many tackles; make so many sacks; so forth and so on, they receive bonuses. For example, A contract can be valued on a base level at about 10 million standard. However, after the incentives, like the ones that I mentioned above, The contract jumps to 25 million. In the press they give the fans the high number and thats the understanding that we have.

Then, the team starts criticizing the player; saying that he is underperforming even if he’s not. They sit him on the bench and because hes sitting on the bench, he can’t reach the milestones in his contract which means less money. The messed up part is. as I stated earlier, the player is contractually bound not to say anything about it. I truly think that Plaxico was having the same problem. Both are pro bowl players worthy of large contracts and if you need a player of that caliber, you lower them in with the attractive contract and then you play the performance game to avoid paying him his money. They will trade Osi, believe me and its messed up because I think Osi is a pehnomenal player and there are at least a dozen teams lined up to jump on him when he becomes available.