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New York Giants General Manager Jerry Reese would not say Thursday that the signing of veteran safety Deon Grant had anything to do with the health of Kenny Phillips. But, we know it had EVERYTHING to do with KP.

"We signed Deon Grant because, number one, he’s durable," Reese said. "He really hasn’t missed time. He’s a durable veteran who will bring depth and leadership to our safety position."

Grant, a 9-year veteran, said he was interested in signing with the Giants before the 2007 season.

"I wanted to be here when I went to Seattle, but they came into the picture late. This opportunity on the second go-round – it was destined. I’m happy about the coaching staff and my new teammates and I’m ready to help them win the Super Bowl again," Grant said. ""Hopefully, Kenny can come back one hundred percent and Rolle is going to do some big things. With those stud cornerbacks that we have, we can just line up and play ball."

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We found out Thursday that Jeff Feagles will return for a 23rd season as an NFL punter. We also found a possible reason for Feagles struggles last season, and why he considered retirement.

"I needed to do some things physically to figure out if I wanted to go and do this again," Feagles said. "So right after the season I took a little break and then jumped into working out on my own, and seeing if I could do some things to strengthen my legs. I thought I had lost a little bit of leg strength last year. I haven’t been able to train because of my knee the last couple of years. So I felt that I needed to get into the weight room and do some things and see if it was going to hold up. And I was going to make a decision after that.

"About three weeks ago I called Kevin (Abrams, the Giants’ assistant general manager) and told him that I was ready to come back and I think I can do it another year - and if you will have me back, great, let’s get something done."

The 44-year-old Feagles knows he will be competing with recently signed Australian punter Jy Bond.

"In my meeting with Tom it was very, very clear that I was going to compete for my job this year," Feagles said. "And my answer to that was, ‘That’s fine.’ I have been competing for a long time. That is what makes it all better anyway, competition. Plus, we will have another leg in camp which will be good for me, too. So I just have really said to myself, ‘Listen, get a contract done and just go compete.’ And I’m confident that I will be on the roster."

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3 kickers

Curious what you all think about having 3 kickers on the roster. Assuming Bond is up to the task…. Feagles punts anything in front of the 40 and holds on kicks. Bond punts anything behind the 40, kicks off, attempts 60 yard FGs at the end of the half, whatever. Tynes (or any possible suitable replacement) handles the short and medium-long range kicks. Thoughts?

by TNYFBG on Apr 2, 2010 7:22 AM EDT reply actions  

nope

not gonna happen…Now a Punte with a booming leg that can handle kick offs I can see…but 3 NOPE

Regroup refocus..retool...

by Mr.Williams on Apr 2, 2010 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's possible

the cryboys had 3 last year and it didn’t seem to effect them at all. (but they had absolutely no injuries to test their depth)

but i agree with Mr. Williams – its not likely, TC is an old school coach that loves his roster spots

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 2, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does

Anybody know if the Aussie, can handle kickoffs, or just punt, don’t know much about him?

by Great Gatsby on Apr 2, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we always had only 2 QB's on the active roster

last year it was eli and carr with bomar on the practice squad

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 2, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly ...

which frees up carrying an extra guy at another position than you normally would. Not sure. I think last year it was carrying 7 WR’s.

Most years we’ve carried 3. I’m just not sure with Carr gone that TC would feel O.K. with just Bomar behind him, but it’s early.

by Shofner85 on Apr 2, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeez ... forgot about him.

is me just being in denial that we have a viable back-up there ?

by Shofner85 on Apr 3, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t wait until the season..I think Feags will be better,well at least I pray he is..I see the hand writing on the wall…WE Need a Punter soon..Grant will be an uprgade over MJ & CC…is it sept yet??

Regroup refocus..retool...

by Mr.Williams on Apr 2, 2010 7:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Well....

this should shut the door on any consideration for Earl Thomas. Now it is really coming down to McClain, Spiller, or best available OT. Can’t wait to see what Reese actually does at #15. I do not think the Giants will carry 3 kickers. I do believe though, that if Bond has an outstanding camp, Feagles should be cut. Don’t get me wrong, I like Feagles, a classy, stand-up dude, who has had one hell of a career, but we need a good punter. Last year, he was mediocre to bad. And I don’t know if I can handle another year of Tynes, especially on kick offs.

by CCE718 on Apr 2, 2010 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I know

It’s a one year contract, but anyone have a clue to how much he will be paid? Also what about Feagles how long and how much is he getting?

Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.

by gobs56 on Apr 2, 2010 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the Grant signing. And I don’t think this necessarily means that we won’t see KP back on the field relatively soon. Reese and Coughlin have been saying that they want to go ahead as if KP wasn’t going to play. Plus is it really that terrible to have KP, Grant, and Rolle at S? Just makes it less likely of seeing MJ and CC out there.

by ny12giants92 on Apr 2, 2010 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Wouldn't it be nice if all our players (are you listening Osi?)

faced up to the fact that they have to compete and win their starting position every year as well as Feagles did? Jeff is a class act who acknowledged that fact and didn’t act like he ought to automatically be named the starter in his position by virtue of good play in prior years.

by giant fan since 57 on Apr 2, 2010 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

There was a recent article on osi

that i posted in fanshots where osi is basically saying he knows he has to compete for the job and he’s up to the task. its a very refreshing article regarding the status of osi and how hes feeling about the giants. i think hes going to have a big year and he thinks the same.

Lawyer: Peter, Sarah has decided to press sexual harrasssment charges against you.
Peter: Sarah...Is that the one we video taped taking a dump?

by Plaxico Burress on Apr 2, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats good...maybe he got the message.

If he plays exceptionally well, which I believe he can do, he won’t miss many downs.

by giant fan since 57 on Apr 2, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deon Grant was the defensive captain for the Hawks

and a few years ago they made him one of the highest paid safeties in the NFL. He was never THAT good..but this means this guy is solid.

And that cut seemded like it was more of a money move, not a talent issue. I’m thinking our starting safeties come game 1 could be Rolle and Grant.

Now KP can be eased back into playing on his own schedule.

I wonder if they’re done with the secondary now? I’d asssume you still gotta add something. Aaron Ross is probably as big and injury risk as KP.

I don’t think they look at it for the 1st 3-4 rounds tho. At best we’re talking a nickel corner. And if Ross is healthy, that’s a dime CB.

Get HWSNBN...and they will come

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 2, 2010 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Safety...

is looking much better. I agree that now Phillips can be slowly brought back into the game. I would also like to see at least one DB be picked up in the draft and I know we still have the unsigned FA from last year (forget his name, Ra’Sheaf?), who I know has potential. But, you are right that Ross is injury prone and who knows about the long term durability of Phillips. Overall, though, I like what JR has done with the secondary.

by CCE718 on Apr 2, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe that's what they do

Sharef Rashaad I think is how it goes, Travonti Johnson also I think is another one.

Still got Bruce Johnson..who was a UDFA last year maybe he sticks for another? As a dime CB what more can you really ask for?

I’d really expect them to basically find that LB for them..other then that, is BPA all the way. Hopefully the LB is a BPA being McClain.

If anything, maybe getting a big CB is a good idea. Someone like Myron Lewis or Akwasi Owusu-Ansah in the middle rounds?

Actually..AOA is a great option now especially to return kicks…of course, if they don’t get Spiller or Jahvid Best in the first 2 rounds.

Get HWSNBN...and they will come

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 2, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like the idea...

of a big corner. Hey, Johnson did not do too bad last year. I think he makes the squad again. I agree that LB should now become the focus for the draft, especially in the first 3 rounds. I also hope the BPA is McClain. I am still uncomfortable with the idea of Best. I am not doubting his talent or ability, but my gut tells me no. I do not know much about Owusu-Ansah, but I trust your judgement.

by CCE718 on Apr 2, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only problem with AOA

is hasn’t he been moving up the boards to a higher round than we’d probably go for dime/nickel corner? If he is down at a lower round though, yeah sure. I do think it is far more likely we draft depth at CB now rather than S.

by bigblue777 on Apr 2, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

our corners are already relatively big

all of them are at least 6" and 200 pounds.

That is good size for a cb

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 2, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also

think this signing may be a bit of a damnation of Michael Johnson as well. I would say about
70% KP, and another 30% of how they feel about Johnson too. A good veteran pickup though.
Yippee, Can’t Cover is going going gone, no it wasn’t an April Fool’s joke, yippeeee!

by Great Gatsby on Apr 2, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont Think

It has much to do with KP at all, they are always looking to upgrade and he certainly is that when compared to CC Brown, I think the point was to improve the safeties even with a healthy KP, we act like Rolle cant get hurt?? then what?? this is insurance for both safeties, I still expect KP to start in game 1.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Apr 2, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

I don’t think KP will have any problems being ready for the beginning of the playing season, the bigger problem would be if he had another injury and had to miss more games.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 2, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

These last few moves

seem to be freeing Jerry up for some type of Blockbuster
move in the draft, I mean he has taken care of our needs
at safety, I think they like Goff and some of the other
backers, we keep focusing on McClain but they could be tying up some loose ends to go after someone we wouldnt expect them to jump up for!

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Apr 2, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I dont

I wouldnt be surprised if he starts the season on the PUP list. If not i dont think he plays any more than a handful of snaps per game the first few weeks. I hope Im wrong and he is 100% but he did have a major knee surgery. He hasnt even began running yet.

by Giants56 on Apr 2, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but he wants to run, they just have him on a time table, lets not forget Kenny was never in any pain at all with this injury and it was caught in week 2. PUP would keep him out until week 6, I think these are measures taken so that he doesnt have to play preseason and stuff like that, maybe they ease him in but I think he will start.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Apr 2, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're right about the PUP option ...

Looking more and more like a possibility as JR stockpiles new S’s.

by Shofner85 on Apr 2, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

ET was my chosen one

but I can’t argue with the moves that have been made. Unless someone wonderful on the defensive side falls to them, such as a McClain or Morgan, I think they now may be looking at the offensive side. Maybe Spiller?

by Jolly on Apr 2, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Anyone know what the contract looks like for Grant??

Lawyer: Peter, Sarah has decided to press sexual harrasssment charges against you.
Peter: Sarah...Is that the one we video taped taking a dump?

by Plaxico Burress on Apr 2, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Its only 1 year

So probably an incentive laden contract. Im sure it was just probably a little higer than CC’s tender.

Peyton May Have The Wins!!
But Eli Will Have The Rings!!!

by Blue Gates on Apr 2, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

jus hoping this isnt a sammy knight situation

a veteran S who plays mediocre for one year then is gone. id like to see deon actually make an impact for two years at least. hopefully just as a 3rd S with KP being 100%, but still.

Lawyer: Peter, Sarah has decided to press sexual harrasssment charges against you.
Peter: Sarah...Is that the one we video taped taking a dump?

by Plaxico Burress on Apr 2, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks...

I was going to ask who was that safety they brought in a couple years ago. If I recall corrrectly, Knight was a 12 year vet, when he was brought in, so he was older than Grant. Knight wound up just playing on special teams, then he was gone.

by Great Gatsby on Apr 2, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any idea why DAL and PHI didn't go after Grant ?

The now move ahead of us in the “concern at safety” area.

Bye Dawk ; any thoughts ?

by Shofner85 on Apr 2, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is old

and I guess they are not that desperate for a marginal player

don’t confuse us with them, our safeties were 100x worse than the guys DAL and PHI had back there

by mclaren_is_the_best on Apr 2, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are looking for the future

we are looking for a stopgap to make sure our future is healthy.

by bigblue777 on Apr 2, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

After today's moves

wonder if Cowpokes are going after Sharper? Who is going to play opposite Samel for the Iggles? Hey Dawk, what is the answer there?

by Great Gatsby on Apr 2, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I like what Grant had to say

Sounds like he’s got the right attitude that a veteran needs to have. Those guys back there could really benefit from that. I’m def feeling a whole lot better about Safety than I had been. And w/ another year under their belt for C-Web, Thomas, and a (hopefully) healthy Ross, our entire secondary is poised to rise from the ashes.

So for drafting purposes, I say get McClain, if you feel he’s the guy. If not, maybe Iuputi. At least we don’t have to talk about the best WR prospect, this year. lol

by YankeeDudeL on Apr 3, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

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