New York Giants notes: Why is Rolle's contract such an issue?
SI.com's Peter King is not impressed by the New York Giants signing of Antrel Rolle.
In the middle of a rant disparaging the usefulness of big-name, big-money signings (which I generally agree with) King listed the Rolle signing as among the three worst decisions of free agency thus far (which I disagree with).
The Giants paying Antrel Rolle like the best safety in football when he hasn't performed that way. Rolle was the second-best safety on his own team. How many times have you watched Arizona play and said, "Rolle controlled that game?'' Never. He's never had a 100-tackle season in five years (not that that's the measuring stick for a great DB). He has intercepted 12 passes in five season(s) and forced three fumbles in 68 career games. I think he's a nice player, not a dominant one.
This is the second straight year the Giants have paid a free-agent defender franchise-player money. Last year it was Chris Canty's six-year, $42-million deal; now it's $37 million for Rolle over five. Canty was hurt much of last season, but GM Jerry Reese needs Canty and Rolle to be the players he paid for or he's going to feel heat for the first time in his short but illustrious GM career.
King is obviously thinking about this purely from the perspective of the dollars in the contract. He isn't thinking about it like the general manager of a football team, which is the perspective from which the signing has to be viewed in my opinion.
Let's turn the clock back to 2009. The Giants got killed by some last summer for making Eli Manning the highest-paid player in football. Is Eli the best player in football, or the best quarterback? Not close. Not even in the discussion.
Is he, however, currently the most important player to the New York Giants football franchise? Without a doubt. And that's not even close. It really is not even be a discussion.
The Giants did not give Eli $106 million because they thought he was the best player in the game. They gave him $106 million because his contract was up, it was Eli's turn to get paid big money, and the $106 million was simply the market price the Giants had to pay to keep their Super Bowl-winning franchise quarterback and not set their team back five or six years.
The Rolle situation is similar, although not as dramatic for its impact on the franchise.
Is he the best safety in the game? Nope. Not close. Is he a darn good football player? Yes. And he happened to be the best available player at a position where the Giants had a desperate need. On top of which, he had several other suitors. The Giants simply paid the market price for trying to make themselves a better football team. And the instant Rolle put his name on a New York Giants contract, they did just that.
So, Peter King you can whine and sniffle all you want about how the Giants 'overpaid' because they made a guy who is not the best safety in the NFL the league's highest-paid safety. The Giants did what they felt they had to do in an effort to shore up a devastating weakness and give fans what they want -- a winning team.
The fact that Rolle is now the highest-paid safety is irrelevant. It was his time to get paid, and that is simply how the system works.
Free Agent Notes
Fred Robbins officially signed with the St. Louis Rams on Monday. Good luck, Fred! I wonder if that means the Rams are leaning toward QB Sam Bradford as the No. 1 pick in the upcoming draft. ... The Giants won't sign former Indianapolis backup QB Jim Sorgi right away. They are apparently worried about Sorg's shoulder. ... Ernie Palladino says the Giants also do not appear to be showing interest in Jeff Garcia or Mark Brunell. Not yet, anyway.
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Ed
I see the Raiders have released DE G Ellis (did he play OLB or DE).
Any chance you see the Giants working something out with the Raiders concerning Osi?
by G Fan in England on Mar 9, 2010 7:07 AM EST reply actions
I'd like to see some details on how the contract is structured ...
over the 5 years. Signing too many marquee players to big $ contracts that don’t pan out can hurt (especially from a GM’s perspective) if it squeezes available $ to sign other players under the cap.
2010 is the first year in ages where the cap is not in play. If JR has “front loaded” Rolle’s contract, with the biggest chunk falling in 2010, it could still be very “cap friendly” in 2011 and beyond. Then it’s just a few less $ for the Maras and Tisches.
Rolle
It is a little front loaded but the important thing is he is only garaunteed 15mil the first 2years and we can let him go it he doesn’t prove he can play up to his contract, obviously if he proves he is worth the money you got to keep the guy.
All's Well that Fewell
Yeah, but ...
when under capped years they tend to do a lot of the guaranteed money in the signing bonus, which affects the cap in future years on a pro rata basis. The likely move here would be to make a lot of the “up front money” 2010 guaranteed salary, but I just haven’t seen anyone detail it (or any of the other contracts this FA season). Must be because the media figures no cap, but it can impact future cap years.
Try again...
He gets 15mil in the first 2years, 22.5 in the first 3 and 14.5 in the last 2… After 2yrs his guaranteed money is paid and all bets are off, also your assuming there ever will be a capped year again or that football will be played in 2011, who knows but thats how his deal breaks down.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/05/rolle-gets-five-years-37-million-from-giants/
All's Well that Fewell
Yeah, but ...
Typical of the “old school cap deals” woudl be:
He gets a $10MM signing bonus, and salaries of $2MM year 1, $3MM year 2, $7.5MM year 3 and $7.25MM each the last 2 years (that fits with your #’s of what Rolle “gets”).
However, the $10MM signing bonus is pro-rated for the 5 years cap-wise, and the “cap hit” is: $4MM in 2010, $5MM in 2011, $9.5MM in 2012, $9.25MM each in the last 2 years. That is what it “costs” the Giants in cap $ (not real $ paid out) over the life of the contract. And … if they cut him after 3 years, we have $4MM in dead cap money in 2013.
I’m assuming they do a differently structured deal in an uncapped 2010, trying to accelerate the "cap year $, so if we have a CBA for 2011 and beyond this deal doesn’t constrain JR’s ability to do other deals. Problem is, they used to announce all of these details, and now they act like the cap is gone forever.
Because there is no Bonus money
If we cut him after year 2 we take not hit a cap if there is a CAP, who knows what will happen at this point… Future years of against the cap won’t matter because his contract can be voided with out penality after year 2… but like I said there is no cap there might never again be a cap and we might not even have football 2011 so if there is a cap in 2012 we just cut Rolle and the money is off the table… If we do get a cap next year only his 2011 salary will affect our cap but no affect going foward if we decide to cut the ties…
All's Well that Fewell
O.K., I get how the lack of signing bonus changes things in 2010 ...
but that brings up another question I hadn’t previously thought of. These contract reports say “guaranteed money”, I know I’ve seen other reports specify “for skill and injury” (presumably meaning you get the $ if even if your injured, or just suck all of a sudden, but not if you pull a Plaxico).
But what about in a “lock-out” year like 2011 may be ? If the players don’t get the “spendable $” up front in a signing bonus, are they entitled to that “guaranteed money” if it is salary in a lockout year ?
Here it is
2010 $4.75M + $5M signing bonus
2011 $5.25M
2012 $6.75M
2013 $7M
2014 $7M
Plus a $250k/yr workout bonus
He also gets a $100K Pro Bowl bonus not included in the $37M
Bleeding Blue since 1962
So it sounds like ...
it could be become a $31.5MM 4 year deal, if 2011 season is canceled due to lockout, and his $15MM “guarantee” could be only $9.75MM (actual cash he gets in 2010), and Giants could cut him in early 2012, having just paid him that $9.75MM for 1 year, and have $3-4MM in dead cap money for 2012 (and who knows how the new CBA will treat 2010 signing bonus money for cap pro-ration purposes).
I think I’m beginning to understand why so many free agents are seemingly being “overpaid” this time around, and their agents are not mentioning the “un-guaranteed, guaranteed” money because they always want to inflate the deal numbers.
Guaranteed money is just that.
No matter if we cut him tomorrow, he gets $15M. Therefore, we can’t responsibly cut him before 2012.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
2011
If 2011 is a lockout that means the players dont get paid then what happens to their contract/money for that year? Does it just move everything to 2012?? I can’t find anything on their contracts just that if there is no play there is no pay.
All's Well that Fewell
Yeah, Gobs may be right on this ...
and the player agents would likely be silent on it (maybe even to the player !), as they figure that’s De Smith and the Union’s problem, to avoid a lockout.
I’d be reluctant to think that the owners/GM’s are going to guarantee salaries for what may be a lock-out year, as that would severely hurt their leverage at the bargaining table.
It would also be interesting to see an analysis ...
of how many deals done in 2009 or 2008 were structured for bigger cap or guarantee numbers in 2010, spikes in salaries in 2011, and low cap numbers for 2012 and beyond.
That would tell us both who the smarter GM’s are, and collectively what the owners thought the likelihood of an uncapped 2010 and lock-out 2011 were.
But let me guess...
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As long as he...
doesn’t turn into another failed FA (which I don’t think he will), I really don’t see what all the hub-bub is about. The dude is a demonstrated good safety and, as was pointed out, was his turn to make the money. Say Troy Palumalu was on the market, Rolle doesn’t see quite that high of a contract. But, Rolle was the top safety available. In reality, I never get too wrapped up in someone’s contract, unless they step on the field and don’t produce.
king...king
wait, isnt he the same guy who said aaron smith was on the all-decade team ahead of strahan and a few others much more worthy
its sad, but i sorta read kings writing as sort of a monday morning joke…
Complain aaaaaallll they want.
Compare it to Canty too.
Giants needed a safety. The Cardinals would’ve matched it apparently, so what goes with that?
Sharper’s a stopgap…they’d still have to focus on safety early in the draft.
They’d have to hold their dongs waiting for the 7 days to pass up with Otogwe.
Kerry Rhodes is an A-Hole…
If they signed Dansby, would that’ve been OK to make him the highest paid LB in the NFL? He’s not the best LB in the NFL.
Safety is the Giants biggest need. They needed to solve it.
Peter King is the same ignorant pork chop who put Aaron Smith in the all-decade team over Michael Strahan.
Master of the squeegee
Sharper
Useless anyways…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/08/source-sharper-couldnt-have-passed-a-physical/
All's Well that Fewell
Interesting...
so maybe THAT is why the Giants didn’t go out and get him as their main priority?
That would’ve sucked…the safety position is so bad, and we’re signing a 34 year old coming off knee surgery to solve it?
Fhew!
Master of the squeegee
See...
Now wheres all those ppl who jumped on me when I said Sharper dissappeared in the second half of last season, and that we should stay away from him. Yeah so what if he was “busy winning a Super Bowl”, he wouldn’t have even made it through OTA’s! He would have been the newest member in the Aaron Ross club “Can’t Get Off The Bench Anonymous”.
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by I_Formation27 on Mar 9, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
probably returning their straight jackets. They really wanted OJ Otogwe and wanted to take a precaution in case they went nuts waiting 7 days for the Rams not to match the contract
Master of the squeegee
lol exactly
Waiting those seven days would have been safety suicide, but man Atogwe would have been splendid. But all in all, I’m glad we signed Rolle, and I truly don’t understand why people are throwing fits over his contract. The money is not coming out of your pockets people! Let the man get paid! Once he starts returning picks back for six you’ll all be buying his jersey.
"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden
by I_Formation27 on Mar 9, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
and lets not forget the good team bad team thing
Atogwe on Rams could gamble a lot, because they weren’t winning games anyway. He gets a pick six to win a game, he is a hero. If they lose, they stunk anyway. So he played with very little performance pressure.
Rolle has played on a team used to playing in tough games
I always prefer to sign guys from winners
I don't really buy that
Atogwe is a really good player on an awful team. It’s comparible to how Terrell Thomas had a great season, despite the rest of the defense playing terrible. We weren’t “winners” last season either but I bet there are tons of GM’s who would love to sign TT right now if they had the chance, and probably as their #1 CB.
I would prefer to sign good players, whether they were on a winning team or not.
I’ll take a guy like Calvin Johnson or Maurice Jones-Drew any day! The Giants don’t needs these players but they are still great players, despite the fact that their teams suck.
"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden
by I_Formation27 on Mar 9, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
how do you know Atogwe is good under pressure?
No one has any idea how Atogwe will respond to pressure, because his team hasn’t played a tense important game since 2006.
He may have nerves of steel, but there is no way to know.
My point wasn’t don’t get good players. It was when you pluck a player from a crummy team, you better make sure that his performance isn’t skewed by the opposition not trying very hard after taking a big lead.
The Giants front office had a reason not to make an offer for him
I’ll defer to their judgement as I’m sure they saw it differently than most of us and they’re the professionals.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Well
If JR and the coaching staff were interested in signing Atogwe, They obviously must’ve watched tons of film on him and liked what they saw. Nobody knows how any player will respond to pressure until they are put in a pressure situation.
Most players (especially ones still in their rookie contract) are always under pressure to perform well, even if they are on a terrible team. Atogwe has performed well and many ppl rate him as one of the top safeties in the league.
No one knows how Nnamdi Asomugha would respond under pressure either, but he is still arguably one of the best CB’s in the league.
I just don’t get your point.
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by I_Formation27 on Mar 9, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Of course if there is a huge talent jump its obvious
Atogwe is not an elite safety, or at least not yet.
Neither is Rolle, but of the 2 only one has been in 6 playoff games. If you don’t see that as a difference its OK. I do.
How do we know if the Giants were actually interested
and not just “kicking the tires”? They made no offer. Forgive my oversimplification, but that would tell me they preferred Rolle over Atogwe for what ever reason.
We can all talk and fantasize ad nauseum, but we are not professional talent evauators and the people employed by the Giants are. They have methods of breaking it down that we aren’t privy to, so I would advise us all to defer to their wisdom.
If my point is still not getting through, I guess I could sharpen it further, but I doubt it will be necessary.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Yeah yeah yeah
My main point was directed at Giantblue, and all I’m saying is don’t be quick to devalue a good player just because they are on a crappy team. Point blank. No we are not professional talent evaluators and we obviously have no choice but to defer to their wisdom, thats a given. But that doesn’t stop me from having my own opinions on the talent of a player and expressing those opinions.
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by I_Formation27 on Mar 11, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
+1
and a risk I’m sure they weren’t willing to take with Rolle currently available.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
We've long since established
That Peter King is a retard (apologies to Sarah Palin).
This signing allows the Giants to have a satisfactory draft and not have to draft 2 safeties. The Giants need 2 safeties as KP is a big ? right now. Now we have one, and we’ll get one in the draft.
F. Peter Queen.
You play to win the game!
Funny
How in the first sentence of the article, King refers to Rolle (& Dansby) as “Defensive Cornerstones” of the Cardinals. You can’t have it both ways, Peter. Either he’s a defensive cornerstone or an overpaid, average, NFL safety. He’s a …. words I won’t use here.
Technically
Peter king is a fool, if the cardinals were willing to match the Giants offer, that means they were willing to make Rolle the highest paid safety as well even with wilson on the same team. Antrel is an excellent safety and part of the money is for his leadership and his intelligence on the board regarding X’s and O’s when they brought him in. Regardless, Rolle wouldve been the highest paid at the position even more so if AZ didnt release him, his last contract wouldve paid him 12 mil nxt year……… if he was worth it to them, he is worth it to us………………………….As far as Eli not being in the discussion, to be honest i trust him the most out of all QB’s in the clutch even when he plays bad that last drive in the clutch he has always demonstrated that he can handle the pressure.
But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!
Something that could be very important
With AP gone now and likely a new rookie MLB (or 3rd year Goff), there is no leader on the D. It should be Tuck, but just doesn’t seem to be that kind of guy, plus you can’t QB the defense from the line. Rolle’s leadership may be a big impact.
More Perspective
They were willing to make him the highest paid Safety, this is a team that pays no one, cmon they just let go of Dansby and Anquan Boldin……………a player who broke his face for them came back and still dominated, let me clarify: Boldin has the MOST YRDS PER GAME in nfl history more than rice, moss, carter, irving whoever also kurt warner and larry offered to give up money to pay him and they still didnt. now they were wrong but the fact that a cheap ass team was willing to pay rolle even with a perennial all star at the position already says alot to me.
But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!
With the Eli Contract Discussion...
Ask yourself again, how would Big Bens trials and tribulations play out in the NY Media versus the Pittsburgh media???? It would be disaster.
Eli deserved his contract not only because he is able to play well, but he can also handle himself well in the toughest media market on the planet…….
Plus, he's pretty young,
just entering what should be prime years for the duration of the contract, a hard worker, not injury prone, wants to be a team guy and be coached to get better, wants to work with and help out Kenny Phillips, and wants to win championships. Seems like a great fit for Giants.
I read Peter King b/c I’m a big football fan and I’m addicted to the internet. But he’s a blowhard and I don’t agree with a lot of what he says. He’s really a “skim” read in that I quickly skip over a lot of his column if he’s talking non-football or non-sense which is about 75%-80% of the column normally.
by BigBlueDeadHead on Mar 9, 2010 8:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Rolle Contract Discussion is much ado about nothing....
People either get it, or they don’t. The Giants had NO viable safeties – NONE – with the draft approaching and two other glaring needs at LB and DT.
So what they paid him all that money??? Its an uncapped year, and they filled a monstrous gaping hole. Even if you want to say Rolle is overrated, he is 20 times better than anybody they had on the their roster, and is a veteran player who would not have the learning curve of a draft pick. He’s 27, not a “washed up” Roy Williams.
Giant management stepped up to the plate and spent money they needed to spend to improve their team UNLIKE Bob McNair and the Texans – who refuse to “overpay” their best corner in Dunta Robinson, don’t franchise him and let their best CB on a team with a horrible secondary walk……McNair wants to put a competitive team on the field and make as much money as possible, the Giants want to put a CHAMPIONSHIP team on the field. Thats the difference.
Who cares about Peter King
He jus likes to s#&t on the giants.. him and Moose Johnston. cant take anything he says seriously.
Giants fans know this was a good signing regardless of the number stamped on the deal. S was a top priority and they solved it the best way possible.
I like the move, you like the move, we all like the move.
Please Mets.. over .500 this year? Please??
Never let the media rattle your cage
That is their real job. The single best way to get people to read or listen is to be controversial. If King simply put the analysis out there he slowly becomes irrelevant, and with the number of girls he is putting thru private college, that would be foolish.
SO when you read his column, understand that he wants to generate a buzz. Its better for him to have a buzz then be right.
That is true.
And I believe it’s good for whoever you are to have a buzz.
by BigBlueDeadHead on Mar 9, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
I don't trust Peter King
…since he wrote that The Office is aging better than Seinfeld. Too bad the office hasn’t been good since 2007.
DB
The office
in the UK ran for just two seasons (all they made).
That is the UK version of The Office and not the US office!
by G Fan in England on Mar 9, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
i love the office duck butter
the last episode where Pam gave birth was high-larious!!! i was laughing the whole hour, you should give it another chance.
Seinfeld is classic, but the Office is the funniest show on right now…
King hates us anyway
listening to a man who left Strahan off of the all decade team kills brain cells quicker than a night on the town. This guy clearly has something up his ass when it comes to the Giants… Whether we turned him down for a job, Simms told him to get out of the locker room back in the day, or some cute girl wearing a gints shirt shot him down the one and only time he tried to talk to the opposite sex and he still holds a grudge. Whatever it is, I think this site would be best served if his name and words never appeared here again.
That being said… these contracts are overpriced, it’s called supply and demand. The supply of really good unrestricted free agents was very small this offseason. Therefore the demand for such players goes up, and with it goes the price that guys like Rolle and Dansby can ask for and get. This is stuff we learn in high school. Some place Peter Pecker should go back to.
JR can worry about $$$$
The only thing I might worry about is chemistry.
Fact is Canty was a need and so was Rolle. JR paid too much but that is the market these days.
Smart moves both. Canty may prove his worth this year.
King was right about one thing – Rolle and Canty need to play well this year or JR looks bad
Rolle overpaid???
Ed great comments on why we paid as much as we did for Rolle – its all about market value – I didn’t agree with last years signings (other than Boley, healthy this season and he’ll be a stud, he’ll be the giants Mitchell from their SB year)…Canty i’m sure he can perform but we did reach on him, I won’t even start on Bernard signing considering we already had Coefield and Robbins.
Anyways…the signing of Rolle, the return of Phillips (i hope he’s 100% healthy) and throw in the fact Ross can play a little safety if need be leaves the Giants with a better focus on other "need’ positions. At MLB I’d love to get Morrison out of OAK (he’d be a steal for a 3rd rounder) and if the god’s smile down on the Gmen come draft day at #15 getting McClain would solidify the LB corp for years to come – Boley is young, Sintim is ready to go and you get Morrison and McClain in there plus Goff and Blackburn and we’re set!
I love what Reese is doing; barring injuries and a poor running attack last season – its worth noting that a healthy Andre Brown has the potential to tear this league up – this simply revised Giants team will be a team to fear for years to come with so many “under 30” players with experience!! (Thomas, Webster, Beatty, Eli, Jacobs, Brown, Rolle, Phillips, Boley, Sintim, Tuck, Kiwi, Osi, Smith, Nicks, Manningham, Boss) what a roster and what a big 2010/11 season this Giants team will have!
Peter King is a MORON who eats CUPCAKES all day!
1st of all Fat King didnt even put Mike Strahan on his all decade team for SI which was recent. He put Jason Taylor and Aaron Smith. Jason Taylor fine, cause he has the stats to back it up and he’s a good player, but Aaron Smith… Thats a C’MON MAN. What has he done? You never hear anything about him, atleast I havent but maybe I’m wrong. His excuse for puting Smith on instead of Strahan is Smith played the run well for a 3-4 end. Thats another C’MON MAN! Everyone thats a G-MEN fan knos DAMN well Strahan not only played the run WELL but he could rush the passer with a COMBO of moves and Strahan has all the STATS 2 back it up. I kno writers have to be BIASED sometime but this time he should be SLAPPED with a WET NOODLE! The Rolle signing… we had no choice. But if it works out well which I think it will then JR will look like a GENIUS. Also, we only gave him 15 mill guaranteed which is saying if he doesn’t work out then we’ll get rid of him. I think Kenny has betta range than Rolle and Rolle should be an in the box saftey covering the flat, he has enough speed to pick up a back, and because he’s a good tackler. Also, wondering if were gonna go after Morrison and wondering about Pick No. 15?
How does JR get in trouble from Canty's injury
A 26 year old coming off 48 consecutive starts, unless he has the power to see the future, I have no idea how Reese can be held accountable for that.
"Brett Favre will never play again..."
Those are the words of Peter King from before the start of last season.
Although I read his column regularly I always take what he says with a grain of salt.
The great thing about the tag "highest paid player"...
…is that the name preceding that statement will change in 1-5 years. Remember when Shaq was the highest paid player back in the 90’s ever? I bet if we look at that contract now and compare it to whoever is the highest paid now, it would be dwarfed.
Highest paid is relative to the time, in a year or 5, Antrel will be far down on the depth chart….much
ado
about
NOTHING!
Rolles Contract..I some it up this way: Who Cares?..
Peter King sounds like he is paying for him..He sounds so cheap his ass must squeak when he walks, what a useless windbag..life is too short to be wasting time listening to what that bird-brain has to say about anything…These salaries are the result of a market that all NFL franchises collectively created for themselves and now they have to live with it, just like baseball and basketball..even hockey is getting nuts..To us fans it just means higher ticket prices, a dollar more for a beer, 50 cents more for a fucking hot-dog and another dollar tacked on to park your frigging car, plus a trip to the Godamn ATM prior to the game so we can make sure our wallets are completely stocked up with cash so we can afford everything our kids are going beg us for during the game…Shit the Mets train here in Port St Lucie, it is so close (Tradition Field) that I could hit it with a rock..Even though I’m a Yankee fan, I’ll take the kids to exhibition games…Pre-season and I can still drop 150 bucks..It’s nuts..but let me just say this to dumbass Peter King: "Hey Petey you have a choice if your complaining about how much a player contract costs…Don’t go
watch, don’t pay for NFL Ticket…take up a hobby like woodworking and get on the Bob Vila show and bitch about that.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Ooops I meant 'sum it up'
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
dumb quote from king
“How many times have you watched Arizona play and said, ‘Rolle controlled that game?’”
Well at least once, that Cincy game where he had 3 pick-6s, right?
“Never.”
Oh, I see now.
Right on, Ed!
Ed, I agree with everything you said in your piece. Plus, contracts are not guaranteed in the NFL. So, it really comes down to guaranteed money. And, if after three years, the Giants feel they are not getting the return from Rolle and his big contract, they can simply release him.
Peter King
also predicted the Bears were gonna be in the Super Bowl last year, with all three competent NFC North teams in the playoffs (meaning just one NFC East team).
"The good teams don't come in and say 'could have'. They get it done. Alright? It's that simple."
better than others
I think Rolle’s money is high, but at least he is good. Other teams are throwing money at nothing. Like Robbins. How does last season get him a raise? Detroit and Denver are giving long contracts to players with little left. If Williams was that good, San Diego would not have cut him.
I think Peter King is too busy
slurping Starbucks and fingering his man-love Brett Favre to actually follow the sport he allegedly covers. Pay him no heed.
ya know what?
Personally I never liked the fact that pro ball players get multi-million dollar contracts for staying in shape and playing a game they should love. But that’s the hater in me because I can’t do what they do. Now let me flip it. I’m a big guy in the giants organization and I know that our weakest area was our defense, which by the way I also know the history of ny giants defense and how its fans expect a good defense, then I would pay top dollar to get a good defense back. I’ve been a giants fan for near twenty years and have never to my memory remembered a giants teams getting blown out so many times in one season. So to rolle I say welcome and make it worth every penny.

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