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Mock Draft Monday: 3/8/10

As predicted last week, there's been a shakeup in some of the mock drafts in the wake of the NFL Combines. There are a few names linked to the Giants this week for the first time since the mock drafts started. Some of them seem to be reaches, some are the result of guys falling.

All of that said, the most popular selection for the Giants is...drumroll please...still DT Brian Price of UCLA, for the 4th week in a row. I have a feeling I'm going to be typing this paragraph a lot until the draft gets here. If you're interested in reading the reasonings (which should be pretty familiar by now), Price was the pick according to Joel WeiserBen Standig, & Randall Weida of FF Toolbox, as well as our SBN partner, Mocking the Draft.

The rest of the mocks after the jump

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DraftAce: OLB Sergio Kindle, Texas. Last week Mel Kiper Jr. had the Giants taking Kindle, describing him as a "need pick" who would have to overcome size issues. This week DraftAce has joined the Kindle bandwagon, believing he proved at the combines that he's athletic enough to play in the 4-3. I would be slightly less than thrilled if the Giants took a guy with size issues has to use the combine to prove he's athletic enough to play in a 4-3 with the #15 pick in the draft. I don't think Kindle's going to be a bad player, but I'm not convinced he's going to be a very good one, either, and the Giants can't afford to miss with this pick.

WalterFootball: DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech. I've always been a big believer in best player available, and with the Antrel Rolle signing I think the Giants have put themselves in a position to do just that. If Morgan is the best player available, and there's a very good chance he will be, I wouldn't be at all upset if the Giants took him, regardless of the fact that he's a defensive end.

DraftTek: OT Anthony Davis, Rutgers. This is a new one, and the only offensive player linked to the Giants this week.

Ricky Dimon of FFToolbox: LB Jerry Hughes, TCU.

Football's Future: LB Rolando McClain, Alabama. I decided to save the best for last. I think all of us would be pretty ecstatic if McClain fell to the Giants. He's the best linebacker in the draft, and with the Rolle signing, linebacker has become the Giants biggest need. It's rare that the BPA is also your #1 need, but when it happens it becomes a no-brainer, and McClain at #15 is about as big a no-brainer as the Giants will have faced in years.

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giants take kindle i'm gonna lose it....

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Mar 8, 2010 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

me too.

It makes no sense. He’s not Brian Orakpo.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 8, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

agree

Kindle would be an unintelligent pick

by MSP Giant on Mar 8, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too..

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Mar 8, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Kindle

Ok now what if the Giants trade Osi, how does it look to pick Kindle. Just say Giants trade Osi because of his mouth and Me First attitude. All happening from past experiences with player the last few years. Giants look for a mid level #1 plus a 5th round pick added. The extra #1 goes for Kindle OLB / DE as replacement for Osi. Kindle is younger, not coming back from injury and is not a distraction to the team. On the teams side why take the chance Osi does not sulk if he does not get to be the starter again. Osi could come back as a force but still ther was a problem with what he did and it was not needed. If you really compair the two players. Osi is more suited to play in a 3 – 4 system and Kindle is a horse in the 4 – 3 system the Giants run.

by jerseyjoehaven on Mar 9, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

If I'm looking for someone to take Osi's place...

with a first round pick that’s got a good chance of being there, I STILL don’t want Kindle. Give me Morgan.

by Cranky50 on Mar 9, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

depends if we pick up kirk morrison!

I would like a DT taken at that spot, and price looks pretty solid. I wouldnt be too upset if we got morgan, but i think or DE’s are a little more sold than the DT position.

by Phillip P on Mar 8, 2010 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

LOL! at Jerry Hughes

I mean, I think Hughes and Kindle for that matter can be good football players, but I don’t see how they fit.

The thing with Derrick Morgan is he’s an elite pass rusher who is also very good against the run, something you just don’t see with any of these other guys.

These drafts just say LB is a need for the Giants, and leave it at that. They are completely obvious to who’s on the team and which position the Giants need.

As for Brian Price, I’m still OK with it as long as he’s BPA or close to it. I prefer they didn’t go DT in round one, cuz this draft is very deep in the 2nd and 3rd round and I think they could end up with the type of player they want.

I’d rather they not sacrifice the chance to get a true impact player in round one by going for need instead (Spiller…)

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 8, 2010 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

Dansby signing with MIA will help us

I think there is a 50/50 chance that McClain falls to us at 15. We don’t need another defensive end. I’d focus on LB, DT or even a S. We can never have enough S’s.

by ChicagoGiantsFan on Mar 8, 2010 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

your watching highlights…..

I wonder who’s making these highlights? Could it be some genius Steelers fan hoping that the top 17 teams look at those highlights…then Rolando McClain goes to the Steelers and becomes the most ridiculous LB in the history of the Steelers?

McClain is a great player. He’s a great player, as a junior..unlike many of these other LB prospects, he’s not nearly finished as a product.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 8, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I simply went to youtube and watched a lot

of posted highlight films. I didn’t watch them with any preconceived notion. All I saw were a lot of arm tackles and some plays when he had a completely unobstructed run at the quarterback. He reminded me a little of the “Bozz.”

by giant fan since 57 on Mar 8, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I know..I seen it too

its just, I think it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Its only a few games last year that they put in there, so I dunno if its the whole story

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 8, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

personally I think if we MUST go LB in round one, between McClain and Sean Weatherspoon…I think they could find a solid MLB.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 8, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

on Sirius NFL

the guys were saying that McClain has all the hype on his side, but that Weatherspoon was basically the same product. I have no clue if that’s right. I’ve never seen one play by either guy. But if they’re right, and the uncertainty of the draft lends some credence, then we as fans shouldn’t be so emotionally tied to one particular guy…

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Mar 9, 2010 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

this is why I’ve been toting the BPA + semi need thing in since the start.

If a DT, or an OT..or an OG (Iupati) is the absolute best prospect in the Giants eyes at #15…the hell are we gonna pass over him for a LB?

Especially when there are other good ones in round 2 and 3.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 9, 2010 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

It's tough for a linebacker to look great on a youtube clip...

A running back, wide receiver, even quarterback can look ridiculously good on a highlight package (i.e. – Spiller).

A linebacker stuffing the run, filling gaps, batting down passes, or sniffing out a screen isn’t going to grab anyone’s attention in a highlight film, but it is what wins football games.

by ggggmen08 on Mar 8, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

true.

And most of the time the big outsized players like McClain get run around a bit.

Especially in the SEC, where there’s a whole bunch of Trindon Holliday’s running around (5"5 players who run 4.2’s)

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 8, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Spiller is ridiculously good....

He had so many total yards every game because he had to make up for the fact that Clemson’s receivers all had hands of stone. He ran the ball, caught a ton of passes (not all were screen passes, either), and returned punts and kickoffs.

The amazing thing is that he was 90% of the offense yet defenses (like Miami, for instance) still couldn’t stop him. His durability is a bit suspect but he did play most of the year partially injured.

by giant fan since 57 on Mar 9, 2010 5:00 AM EST up reply actions  

McClain a no-brainer

Agreed. Far too many people see him as the #1 LB by a long shot. (but must admit I have not seen him a lot)

BPA gets interesting after that

Like Free, would prefer they go after a DT later on. Safety and OT would be more burning issues

I know I know – BPA is the mantra but BPA in light of needs is more realistic.

by MSP Giant on Mar 8, 2010 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

I don't want Kindle....

   But I’d be happy with whomever Reese & Co. think is the BPA of Morgan, Price, Spiller or McClain that’s still around at #15 (at least one of them should be there). Then again, I wouldn’t be miffed if it was deemed Morgan to see what Osi would bring in trade either, and I’d be happy getting Allen for the secondary later on too. Then too I’d still like us to get Morrison in the fold too.

by Cranky50 on Mar 8, 2010 6:08 PM EST reply actions  

I'd be happy with

Morgan, Spiller or McClain. I don’t see us taking Kindle. Still hoping Spiller and McClain both fall to 15. That would be a great scenario.

by wangstu13 on Mar 8, 2010 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

BDPA

I have a new term for the Giants’s draft. Pick the best defensive player available(BDPA). The leaned offense last year-Nicks, Beatty, Barden, Beckum, Brown. This year, let’s lean defense. We really need help on that side.

Would like to pick up a OL guy, but that can wait till round 3 or 4.

by scarlet knight on Mar 8, 2010 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

Still beating the Earl Thomas drum..

I think this guy could be a once in a decade player. If McClain is not there, Thomas should be the dude. If we pick Morgan and Thomas is there, I’d try to trade (probably Osi) and get at this kid.

How many times have we said it takes two years to come back from surgery? Two, right? I’m optimistic about KP like everyone else, but I don’t think he’ll be the player we think/hope he is in year one after surgery. Rolle isn’t a 25 year old either. Thomas should still be the guy. CC and Johnson will not cut it if KP is hurt, so we’re almost back to square one. ET, lock it up!!

by lboogie25 on Mar 8, 2010 6:53 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, rolle out the coffin, he's 27

I do agree with you regarding taking a safety early, as long as it’s not Taylor Mays, but come one, Rolle’s pretty young.

by TNYFBG on Mar 8, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

27 is young and so is 30, but we’re talking football here. GM’s don’t factor that in? Are all rookie safeties impact players? What if it takes 2-3 years? Should we wait until Rolle is 30? I don’t think so.

by lboogie25 on Mar 8, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

THE PRICE IS RIGHT

I really like brian price and i think he is also a need pick and will be better than mcclain. I think mcclain is overrated and not very fast and will not be able to cover tightends in the nfl, the giants don’t need another slow pierce on the team, they need speed at mlb position.

by Jermal on Mar 8, 2010 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

I like Weatherspoon.

Get Sean and DT in the 2nd or Price and Spikes in the 2nd. RB can wait to 3rd or 4th round. RBs in general are not good 1st rd value in todays NFL.

by Wilba on Mar 8, 2010 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

I still can't get excited about Spikes...

    I don’t dislike Thomas at all, but I think the Rolle signing lets one take advantage of the depth of this year’s draft. Regardless if it’s Thomas early, or my hope, Allen, later, I do think the Giants need to boost the secondary somewhere in the draft, as Phillips remains a bit of a wildcard, and who knows what’s going to the status with Ross as well.

by Cranky50 on Mar 8, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

McClain would b nice

a really good mlb is better than a really good dt, at least in my opinion. If McClain turns out to b a good mlb, all the dts need to do is take up blockers and let the lbs do their jobs.

by robbparker on Mar 8, 2010 7:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Don Banks

Over at SI had the Gmen taking McClain too…

by Aceholioo on Mar 8, 2010 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

If McClain doesn't fall

and I’m Jerry I trade down. I agree with most of the players you all like but I think they’ll all be there in the 20’s. Weatherspoon, Thomas, Dunlap, Spikes, Washington, Price. Although I don’t like Price. Getting extra picks is a good thing in this draft.

by MDGeeMan on Mar 8, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

The further we

Get into this off-season and the more I read about the readiness of our RB’s as far as OTA’a etc… I am more inclined to hope C J Spiller falls to us in the first round. Go for an ILB in round 2/3.

by NYGIANTSGW on Mar 8, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

If Spiller is there when we pick we'd be nuts not to grab him..

I just don’t understand why everybody is all hyped up about getting a MLB..We have one Goff..He’ll do just fine..Give the guy a chance..and Osi best learn how to stop the run..We need to get guys that on the d-line slow runners down..and we don’t..I think our LBs would be fine if we had that..Osi let’s everybody run right by him..next thing you know runners are in our secondary.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Mar 8, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Been with ya on CJ

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 9, 2010 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm also with Spiller

he’s so much more than just a running back

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Mar 9, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

McClain

I may be one of the few Giants fans that wouldn’t be so thrilled if he was there at #15. There are legitimate questions about whether or not he can play MLB in a 4-3. I’d rather get someone who’s proven in a 4-3 instead of handing the reins to a rookie who even said that he’s more comfortable in a 3-4. Ditto on Weatherspoon. He’s a WILL in a 4-3 and a 3-4 ILB. If we want to draft a MLB, I wouldn’t mind Sean Lee. He bounced back pretty well in ‘09 after coming off an ACL tear, and has the talent to be considered a fringe first rounder. Terrell Thomas had durability issues at USC, but how many times has he been on the injury report in two years as a Giant? Unless a player is coming off a season-ending injury the year before he’s drafted, I don’t think you discount a guy just because he had an injury history in college.

"The good teams don't come in and say 'could have'. They get it done. Alright? It's that simple."

by BigBlue21 on Mar 8, 2010 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

Sean Lee tore his ACL

its not just some small injury or whatever like TT

by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 9, 2010 3:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Draft strategy

obviously if McClain falls, it’s a no brainer. Unfortunately, he won’t fall.
I would love to see the giants take an OT in the draft. i think the worries about DT are excessive. Remember- giants had 3 injured DTs last season, one of which was the BIG FA signing. The healthy one, a 26 year old Cofield, had a good season. Considering the draft is deep at DT, i think the Giants will smartly wait until 2nd or 3rd round to draft a DT who will have the luxury of coming off the bench for a year or two.
O Lineman often need a year or two to become staples, and the OLB situation also needs an option for next year and beyond. I wouldn’t argue with either of these picks (or even a DE if it’s best available) I just don’t think you use a #1 pick on a DT if it’s a deep draft for that position, and you have three guys coming back from injury.

by pataroons on Mar 9, 2010 12:46 AM EST reply actions  

Who's going to jump in front of us?

I am always interested to think about who would jump ahead of us in a draft. Who might want to trade up in front of us to Grab McClain? Assuming he drops past Denver and Miami, would Pittsburgh trade a 3rd rounder to move up and take him? Would anyone else?

Is it worth us dropping a 4th rounder to move up a spot or two (like we did for Shockey) to ensure we get our guy?

by ross_stephen on Mar 9, 2010 7:47 AM EST reply actions  

If McClain’s their guy…they probably would. I don’t like the idea..but that doesn’t matter.

I don’t think Pittsburgh would do that…they really need a NT to take over for Big Snack soon, and since they don’t want to overpay for Ryan Clark, they need a safety too.

Their OL kinda stinks too, tho that’s really Ben’s holding onto the coed ball too much.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 9, 2010 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

For 4 years

I guess they liked him good enough

by giantblue63 on Mar 9, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

As the FA scenario unfolds all the naysayers will realize we made the best available deal.

Clark resigned with the Steelers.
Sharper got his knee scoped and wanted to go back to NO, anyway
Rhodes cost a 4th & 7th(and overhyped IMO)
Atogwe(a 7day gamble on what may not have been viewed as a good fit by our front office)
Any drafted player(ET, Berry, Allen etc.)(Unproven in NFL, might not be available at our pick, etc.)

Rolle= Done Deal

NEXT!!!

Bleeding Blue since 1962

by sunlion333 on Mar 9, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

As a Rutgers Fan...

I am scared to death that Anthony Davis is going to drop and be there when we pick… Based on alot of the early projections for him, he might qualify as the BPA and it seems there alot of delusional people around that feel threatened by our OT situation even though our defense blows.

Personally, I think he is overrated, but I will say this – he will be light years better than Bruce Campbell. I can’t take these “attitude” guys though, for AD to show up at the combine out of shape and rusty is inexcusable – its going to cost him millions. How can you figure on a guy like that producing after he signs his deal?

I really hope Dan Williams is there for us if we sit, but I still hold out hope we can make a blockbuster deal to get Suh or McCoy.

by dubsrub on Mar 9, 2010 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised if Davis falls to round 2

The scuttlebutt is that his interviews were worse than his on field.

by giantblue63 on Mar 9, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

delusional?

Delusional would be thinking the Giants OL is set for the next 5 seasons. They need to upgrade it soon.

A whole bunch of rookies on defense probably isn’t going to take the Giants back to being a good defense, that would be Perry Fewell and the injured becoming healthy.

Davis might be overrated, yes. So might be Dan Williams.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 9, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

If we get a guy in the 1st round that will help to keep Eli standing upright, and not laid out on his back, I’m all for that. However, if they do select an OL in the 1st, the next two picks should probably be defensive players, BDPA (I forgot who used this) .

There’s nothing delusional about having concerns for our O-Line. Going into last season, there were no concerns about our D-Line either, and look what hapened. McNabb and Brees went out to lunch, took a nap, and still had time to throw bombs downfield. If we can upgrade the OL than Eli will be the one throwing strikes to 12/88/82 all day.

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by I_Formation27 on Mar 9, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t forget #13!!!!!

  1. too!!!

#47, #44 or #22 would be nice too (#27 would cause heart attacks)

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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 9, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

that’s #89 too!!!!!

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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 9, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Hell yeah all of those #'s!

Eli needs to spread the love.

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 9, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Sean Weatherspoon or Rolando McClain

Rolando McClains pro day is tomorrow so thats going to be interesting.

Im starting to really like Sean Weatherspoon, hes got the persona to be a leader , and im hearing that Rolando is very temperamental, I heard he isnt to social and doesnt get along with everyone.

Sean Weatherspoon did it big at his pro day, he bench pressed 35 times at his pro day and 34 times at the combine, which is MORE then Ndamukong Suh! and he runs between 4.5-4.6 thats crazy! If he puts on 10-15 pounds he wont lose much speed and he’ll be 250-255 with that speed and strength, I really like him. Dont get me wrong guys I love Rolando McClain but the more and more I hear the more he scares me, I hate to hear him speak its if we’re at a funeral or something. Hes a monster on the field but in the NFL its all about chemistry, and if people dont get along with him, thats not good!

by Sam Rincon on Mar 9, 2010 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

yea, I’m really looking forward to Bama’s pro day.

I dunno if I want to see McClain go off and blow away the Pro day…or do I want him to tank the Pro Day a bit so he falls?

Weatherspoon is a physical speciman, who was a leader on his D and was his D’s “playcaller”. He’s also kind of insane, which is great if we’re talking about MLB’s.

I don’t really care about the bench press thing..Travis Beckum bench pressed a lot (28 reps of 225…..) it means that they are strong, yes…but mostly, just that they can bench press.

Gerald McCoy benched 22 times…but I doubt that Spoon or Beckum are “stronger” then him

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 9, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry but someone that can bench 225lbs 13 times more than the next guy

is a lot stronger in the upper body. Period. Based on your comment it’s clear you can’t bench 225 once. Weatherspoon is faster too and seems like a more natural leader based on what people are saying.

by Wilba on Mar 9, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

my comments say I can’t bench 225lbs once? Really?

It means he can bench.

Bench press doesn’t mean leg strength. Or do you bench press with your legs?

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 10, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree about the bench press.

Sure, it provides a certain measure (not necessarily the best) of upper body strength, but isn’t overall strength just as or perhaps more important? A dead lift or full squat would be a better measure of overall strength, but there’s never a mention of it. Also Olympic lifts provide a better measure of explosiveness. Admittedly, Olympic lifts would not be practical for evaluating FBers. Too much risk of injury for guys who haven’t learned the techniques and inevitability of erroneous comparisons among the few who might know the techniques and the majoity who don’t

by blue gonz on Mar 10, 2010 7:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe that traing for FBers

should provide greater focus on weight lifting as opposed to body building. Sure body building produces big muscles and strength, but weight lifting provides greater strength and adds explosiveness. Let’s not forget Yoga and Pilates as well.

by blue gonz on Mar 10, 2010 7:15 AM EST reply actions  

Totally agree that deads or squats are a better measure of total strength.

I was just saying 13 extra reps @ 225 is 13 extra reps. No way to finesse the bar up 13 more times. Bench does carry over to most football positions though because of the need to grab and push opponents. Squats apply more than deads but lower body strength in general is more important than upper for football. As far as Weatherspoon’s bench vs McCoy’s – McCoy outweighs him by what a 100lbs? Very impressive.

by Wilba on Mar 10, 2010 7:38 AM EST reply actions  

If your on offense..especially as a pass blocker, yea…bench means something.

You drive and push past defenders with your legs.

If your going and upper body tackling RB’s or TE’s…doesn’t matter if you bench 225 45 times.

You drive with your legs…unless your like you, and you bench with your legs too.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 10, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

This comment "unless your like you, and you bench with your legs too."

demonstrates exactly how little you know about lifting. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

by Wilba on Mar 10, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem with what you were saying. My comment was intended to complement

FB’s. Yeah, 13 extra is impressive particularly given the weight differential. Personally, I’d take deads before squats because deads get every muscle in the body (as do the Olymic lifts.) Leg strength is crucial for linemen and RBs, yet no serious effort is made to test it. I think most of the machines are worthless for a serious athlete.
Free weights help with balance and connective tissue as well as strength. Alas, the day is long past when I could work with free weights (unless I’m on my back or sitting.) My knees and ankles are shot. They won’t let me do aerobics. For convenience sake, I hit the macines every other day. At the end of the month I’ll be in ski country. All I’ll be able to do is watch.

by blue gonz on Mar 10, 2010 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

As a general rule I agree regarding deads, my favorite lift by a lot.

But from a football perspective I don’t think the pulling strength is need as much as the ability to fully extend the knee and hip joints from close to the ground. We’re probably splitting hairs at this point.

Sorry to hear you can’t use the bar any longer or more importantly not able to participate on the slopes. There’s a price to pay with the weights that unfortunately is hard to understand until you understand all to well.

by Wilba on Mar 10, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I use free weights for the exact reason George states..balance Free weights force you to be balanced..

Whether your bench pressing, doing arm curls, leg curls or squats..the dead lift is good mostly for the back but they do have some benefit for legs and arms, not much but some..My routine starts out with loosening up with 135 on the bar..three sets of ten..then I work my way up..I used to be able to do three sets of ten with 335 on the bar..then work my way back down..I can’t do 335 anymore..So, I stop at 225 but again I work my way up and then down in weight..Upper body strength looks nice and you need it, but if you don’t work on lower body muscles your pretty much screwed in football..leg curls..lots of them forward and back along with squats are the excerises that result in strong legs..I still workout M-W-F and eat in between..When you lift you are basically tearing your muscles down and you need to feed them so they recover between workouts..that is what builds strenght and bulk. When your a pilot, if you ever had to punch-out, all we had was a pistol..So you needed to make sure if you hit the ground you could be a very formidable quarry..Fortunately I never had that situation..but anyway, leg strength is actually more important than upper body strength in football..a runner can’t plow through two tree stumps.

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by Bobbiblue on Mar 10, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

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