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Daily NFL Draft Prospect Profile: Ciron Black, OT, LSU

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The need to add young, talented players to the New York Giants offensive line is often discussed here at Big Blue View. So, as we continue our Daily NFL Draft Prospect Profile series, let's look at one of the intriguing offensive linemen in this year's draft class.

Ciron Black of LSU.

Black is probably not in the upper echelon of linemen in the draft -- meaning he likely is not a first round selection. But, he is an athletic guy projected to have right tackle or guard ability.

So, let's take a closer look.

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Ciron Black Scouting Reports

Draft Countdown projects Black as a mid-round pick, and has this to say about the 6-foot-5, 322-pounder from LSU.

Above average athleticism --- Stout at the point of attack --- Capable of getting an outstanding push in the run game.

Inconsistent --- Heavy feet --- Limited mobility and range --- Average balance --- Not very agile.

Played left tackle in college but projects to right tackle or perhaps even guard at the next level --- Has the sheer talent to start in the NFL but will need to get in better shape and be more consistent --- Not quite the pro prospect that his college press clippings would  lead you to believe.

From the National Football Post.

Black isn't real athletic and is slow to get out of his stance. Lacking the range to cleanly reach the corner, he isn't a real impressive pass blocker and has a tendency to lunge into blocks. Struggles to redirect in space and doesn't exhibit the type of fluidity to hold up on an island at the next level. Black, however, possesses a powerful upper body. When he latches onto a defender, he does a nice job staying on blocks. Is at his best in the run game, where he exhibits an above-average first step and can generate good power from his lower half. Black demonstrates the ability to create movement inside as an in-line run blocker, but he will eventually fall off his blocks. Lacking the ideal athleticism, he will have a tough time making his way onto an NFL field as a starting offensive tackle.

From Walter Football.

Summary: I really like Black as an offensive line prospect and [he] should make some team very happy in the second round. Teams need linemen who can play three or more positions, and Black can be a very good starter at guard or right tackle. He lacks the athleticism to play left tackle in the NFL, but he should find a nice home somewhere.

Player Comparison: Vernon Carey. Carey lacked the athleticism to play left tackle, but has been a dominant run-blocker for the Dolphins at right tackle, and also gives versatility as a guard.

Why Black fits with the Giants

Versatility. The Giants might need a guard to replace Rich Seubert eventually. They might need a right tackle to replace Kareem McKenzie. They could definitely use a versatile young linemen who could, as the very least, fill in capably at a multitude of positions. The second round might be early for Black, but bringing in young, talented offensive linemen is never a bad idea.

Why the Giants should pass

That versatility could also be a curse. What is Black's best position? And, is he a younger Guy Whimper, or a player who could develop into a starting caliber lineman? If he's a career backup, he might not be worth an early selection.

(E-mail Ed at bigblueview@gmail.com. Follow Big Blue View on Twitter.)

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Yawn....

    Not excited early for Black and in later rounds there are outside the box possibilities with more upside at helping the team’s weaknesses – Zoltan Mesko as an example. I don’t have a problem with getting help on the OL, but this guy doesn’t seem like someone you WANT to play, but keep around in case you have to.

by Cranky50 on Mar 6, 2010 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

Zoltan

I think you guys know I would be on board with a Zoltan selection in a late round. I’m not big on Black, either, but you know I do have to do another 45 or so of these.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 6, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yawn 2

I am also not excited about using a pick on Black he only rates out at RT so why go for him I would rather pick up Jared Veldheer OT that rates high as a future LT and should be available in the 2nd to 4th rounds. Outside of that I liked that a few of you on the site like the idea of Zoltan Mesko being picked up in the later rounds by the Giants and that he can do all the punting and kicking duties.

by jerseyjoehaven on Mar 6, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

If we needed a LT of the future, yea..Black makes no sense.

BUt Will Beatty hopefully is the future LT. If Black is a starter at RT, that’s a great pick

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 6, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I see your point....

    And if there was it was a certainty he would Vernon Cary and not Whimper, I’m with you. However, for where this guy is likely to go 3-4 I’d think, I don’t think he’s the best choice. I have no problem with picking up an OL, but I still like getting Morrison via RFA and dealing with a better bet than Black.

by Cranky50 on Mar 7, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Well the thing with Whimper was experience

he was a project all the way, as a former TE who just got fat.

Ciron Black may not be the greatest prospect, but he’s been a LT his whole career at LSU.

His stock seems to be falling too, which could be good. Obviously no one knows when the GIants are going to select a OL if they do at all (I’d be really disappointed if they ignored it…)

BUt if Black is in the 5th round? That’s a steal.

But I agree, there’s plenty of others I’d rather have. Roger Staffold is one, but he may be a 2nd rounder about now..so I dunno.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 7, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

If he falls to the 5th round...

    He’s suddenly more interesting. I’d be surprised to him drop to the middle of the 5th, but if he does and Reese thinks he’s the best at the point, I’ll shut up and learn to like it.

by Cranky50 on Mar 7, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

lol....

    And you’re doing a great job Ed. I’m not sure you “HAVE” to do anything, but your labor above and beyond the call of duty is much appreciated, and your potential player profiles are giving us a better familiarity with who is out there and who might be attractive to others, or those picking just before us and why. No complaints here, though I wish you were making decent $’s for doing all you do.

by Cranky50 on Mar 6, 2010 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

Well ...

You know, if you guys wanted to take up a collection and send me a check …..

by Ed Valentine on Mar 6, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

If you set up a mechanisam for it to be done...

    I’d be willing to make a contribution. I subscribe to stuff I get a lot less mileage out of.

by Cranky50 on Mar 7, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I think if we are going to think about the OL, we need to do better than Black...

They need to find a guy that can definitely develop into a solid starter down the road..and I would love to see them snag ‘Zoltan the Warrior’..Hopefully he is around in a later round..He’s like having a kicking LB on the field..and I would hate to see Dallas snag him, we all know they have kicker issues.
45 more of these profiles?…Ed, your going to wind up with Carpel Tunnel syndrome with all of this typing !!..I’d hate to see you have to go on the IR list…lol !!

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Mar 6, 2010 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

Are you volunteering

to be my ‘designated typist?’

by Ed Valentine on Mar 6, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL!!..Hey I would pitch in with some typing for the gipper!

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Mar 6, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

All we need is a RT...

so if he’s Vernon Carey..that’s excellent in the 3/4 range.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 6, 2010 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

Black is a 4th or 5th round pick

No way he is a LT, he could be a very good fit on Giants line, with size and skill level to take over for Kareem, but why rush into him?

by giantblue63 on Mar 7, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

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