Clock ticking toward opening bell of free agency ... Rumor tracker
by Ed Valentine on Mar 4, 2010 5:00 PM EST
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Print[UPDATE 11:05 PM EST: SunSentinel.com reporting Antrel Rolle will visit the Giants on Friday. Report indicates Giants may offer Rolle $8 million per year.]
[UPDATE PM EST: Chris Mortenson tweets that it looks like Karlos Dansby will decide between Miami and the Giants. By the way, various reports say Dansby is not heading to Miami tonight. ]
[UPDATE 9:48 PM EST: If ESPN's John Clayton is right, you can scratch linebacker Gary Brackett off the Giants' potential middle linebacker wish list. ]
[UPDATE 9:44 PM EST: NFL.com reporting that the Giants are in a battle with the Bears, Dolphins and Cardinals for Antrel Rolle. Seems the Bears remain the favorite]
[UPDATE 8:14 PM EST: Antrel Rolle could be headed to Chicago. ]
[UPDATE 6:51 PM EST: Cross Chad Pennington off the list of potential replacements if David Carr leaves the Giants. ]
[UPDATE 6:30 PM EST: Giants among teams targeting running back Chester Taylor. Boy, this promises to be an interesting weekend.]
[UPDATE 6:06 PM EST: Here is the Giants official RFA tender info:
The Giants announced today they have tendered one-year contracts to restricted free agents DT Barry Cofield, WR Domenik Hixon, DE Dave Tollefson, WR Sinorice Moss, LB Gerris Wilkinson, WR Derek Hagan, OL Guy Whimper, OL Kevin Boothe and DB C.C. Brown. Cofield, Hixon and Tollefson received second round tenders. Moss, Wilkinson, Hagan, Whimper and Boothe received an original round tender, and Brown received a Right of First Refusal tender. If another club signs any of these players to an offer sheet, the Giants will have seven days to match that offer. If the Giants choose not to match, they will receive the appropriate compensation from the respective club.
The Giants have also tendered one-year contracts to three Exclusive Rights players: RB D.J. Ware, TE Scott Chandler and DB D.J. Johnson.]
[UPDATE 5:53 PM EST: Here is the link to the 'Giants out of the Dansby Derby' story. There are also reports that Dansby is already headed to Miami.]
As the clock ticks toward the opening of free agency the rumors are swirling fast and furious. Many of those, of course, surround the New York Giants Karlos Dansby, who might be the biggest unrestricted free agent prize of them all. Sorry, Julius Peppers fans.
Here is ESPN's Matt Mosley talking about Dansby and the Giants.
Big things could be in the works here, as there are already rumors swirling that New York could be a prime suitor for linebacker Karlos Dansby. An impact linebacker is certainly near the top of their wish list and Dansby fits the bill. Plus, he is extremely versatile. Getting faster on defense is a huge priority with new coordinator Perry Fewell stressing the ability to cover a lot of ground. However, Dansby isn’t really the thumper they need in the middle and is more of an outside linebacker for this system, although he would be great on passing downs. This is a group of decision-makers who might be starting to feel some heat, so do not rule out a big move or two.
This one isn't a rumor. But, it's one to feed the 'Kirk Morrison to the Giants' crowd. Walter Football thinks you are on to something.
For a mere third-round pick, you can have one of the better linebackers in the NFL. I really don't get this. Perhaps Al Davis doesn't think Morrison is a "great player" anymore because he's not as fast in the 40. Or perhaps Undead Al spilled some goat blood on his tender sheet and couldn't read the names, which would explain why he gave his crappy nickel corner a first- and third-round tender.
Every 4-3 team should be interested in Morrison. The one that makes the most sense to me is the Eagles - they have two third-round selections and need to upgrade their linebacking corps. If they obtain Morrison, they can put him in the middle and slide Stewart Bradley to the strongside position.
Antrel Rolle has officially been released by the Arizona Cardinals. Hey, if they sign David Carr and the Giants sign Rolle I think the Giants win that trade. Don't you?
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I really hope the Giants decision makers..
are chewing on some ice chips, if they’re feeling the heat on Dansby. I hope they make a good decision on that one.
Mosley’s an idiot, but even he said Dansby isn’t a thumper and isn’t a MLB in the Giants system…basically, my 2 reasons for flushing the Dansby idea down the toilet.
Master of the squeegee
Ya know I'm not a Dansby cheerleader
But an argument could easily be made for bringing him in to replace Boley or compete in camp.
The potential cost is wasted signing bonus, but in an uncapped year it won’t hinder your competitiveness
to be honest, that's one of the 2 ways I can see it working
that, or experimenting with Boley as the MLB (not all that far fetched..he had the green dot).
Tho I don’t think Boley’s really earned being cut. I’m also not sure that Dansby’s any better then Boley.
Master of the squeegee
Yeah but for the money dansby is asking for...
not worth it for a guy to challenge Boley. Both of them lack the size to compete in the middle.
Would be nice
If the Giants Football Blog folks had bothered to provide the MSNBC link they got the story from. That’s the kind of crap that gives blogs a bad reputation.
Oh come on
his agent will have spoken to teams and the deal is in place.
by G Fan in England on Mar 4, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
That may be true, but some part of me just doubts that
One of the Dolphins beat writers even said himself that he didn’t think they would go crazy on Dansby, so we’ll just have to wait and see
wow.
I agree with the others..all that really means is he’s going to Miami (I hear South Beach is nice…).
Regardless..I’d love to see him sign with Miami. Makes McClain more likely. Also makes Sergio Kindle more likely for the Dolphins (and doesn’t tempt the Giants…thank Cervelli for that)
Master of the squeegee
I'd rather have morrison than dansby
he’ll command less money and he’ll play in the middle, for only a third round pick. Are you kidding? That should be a slam dunk.
President of the Ramses Barden Fan Club
What do you guys think of Morrison
I am a fan! I have seen many a raiders game(unfortunately) and have seen how he is the only one on that garbage defense that seems to be everywhere. Him, seymour and asomugha are the only quality players and asomugha seems to want out as well. I think Morrison might be a steal, he wont command the money that Dansby or peppers will, but the quality is still there!
I think Morrison wouldbe a great one to target...and Miami really seems to be after Dansby from
what I have read down here in Florida..They are also going to go after Rolle…but if they do fact head in that direction we may be able to get Morrison and pick McClain..That would get me so excited I’d have to sack my QB..the wife again..lol
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
He's smart and has great moves to the ball, awesomes angles and he can level a massive hit
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
don't forget he's 20 years old.
Gotta feeling most are forgetting he was a junior.
His potential is higher then many of these others.
Master of the squeegee
Yes that's right, but that is also a good thing..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
LOL!!..and if the pasta and tomatoe sauce is on those boobies..
I would be a voracious carnivore..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I'll make sure my wife doesn't order spaghetti
if we end up doing lunch next Thursday
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Mar 5, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
LOL!!!!!!!
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Morrison has inflated stats because the DLine infront of him is awful
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 4, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
that said
he’s still the best option out there in free agency. Dansby asking too much money, and Morrison’s only commanding a 3rd rounder, while the best backer out there(Ryans) is asking a 1st and 3rd. As much as i’ve argued the point for Ryans on here, i’d be a fool to say to give up an extra draft pick for a better, but not by that much linebacker.
i’d also take a look at a Keith Bullock, as a veteran prescence/possible starter if everything else falls through.
Good to see we’re looking at Chester Taylor.
definitely a rock of a RB and probably would be a perfect fit. Let the injured get injured..and not miss a beat as they heal.
Master of the squeegee
happy and surprised
to see we were looking at Chester
Well it won't be long now guys...the clock is winding down..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I went to the Raider game this year
and could not identify one single Raider trying hard to win. I don’t follow the AFC west too much so maybe I don’t know but someone please find a way to convince me that this guy is what the Giants need. Please.
c’mon man..going by that metric..you wouldn’t take a single Raider..and that’s including Richard Seymour and Nnamdi Asomugha.
Unlike Karlos Dansby, Morrison’s actually played MLB in a 4-3, starting for 5 years..never missed a game and isn’t gonna cost a guaranteed $30 million (more like a 3rd round pick + say….$16 mill guaranteed similar to Boley).
Master of the squeegee
Morrison is only a couple of months younger than Dansby
Dansby’s the better player, and given the Giants revenue, $14 million isn’t a gargantuan difference, plus that 3rd round pick could be crucial for other needs
3rd rounder would be nice for a MLB that actually plays MLB you mean?
What makes you so sure Dansby is so good? What makes you so sure he’s any better then Mike Boley either?
Master of the squeegee
Yes they run a 4-3..with alot of variations or schemes
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Just checked Brackett's numbers the last two years on ProFootballFocus
Don’t really understand the fascination with him
again, starting veteran MLB.
Doesn’t have to be the greatest, just has to make tackles.
If the Giants DL is healthy, as long as teh MLB can make tackles doesn’t matter if he’s an All-Pro (Pierce..)
Master of the squeegee
Brackett isn't going to be cheap at all
Plus he turns 30 in May, and in the last two years combined, he has one pick and one sack, so not really a playmaker
He'll be cheaper then Dansby
and he makes the sure plays.
Dansby has 1 sack and 1 INT..so by your metric, he’s not a playmaker either is he?
Why are we so quick to dismiss all these players?
Are you sold on Dansby? Why??
Master of the squeegee
Dansby has been a lot better than Brackett each of the last two years
He gets way more sacks, more picks, forces more fumbles, and is younger (look up career stats)
I like Dansby because he’s a great player and he’s mentioned in the past that he wanted to play for the Giants
Difference
Dansby has never been a MLB in a 4-3, he is a leader though thats important, Dansby will have better play in the Fins system then he would with us.
All's Well that Fewell
IF
We do get Brackett his age would require maybe an Angerer or Lee in the draft to sit behind him but those would be later picks, and by cheap not sure what you mean he just wants a long term deal not sure how much but if he hits the market we will find out. Trust me Giants will look at him long and hard. He is the type of player Fewell needs to LEAD a defense that GAVE up last year. No Leaders on our D not even Tuck.
All's Well that Fewell
Brackett is more of a sure thing
because he has actually played MLB in a 4-3.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 4, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Would be nice...
But the colts just signed bracket to a 5 yr deal.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ah4twkYf6YxdssIWM4QIsftDubYF?slug=jc-brackettcolts030510&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Well, he was one of the players that did play hard..Davis has ruined that team..
He is just an ‘ol fart rich puppeteer..and the players can’t wait to get out of there..They want to play football, not be toys to an idiot owner..Shit Seymour when asked about being traded there was asked what he thought and he just simply stated that the weather was nice..to me that sums it up…playing for the Raiders is like getting deported.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
charles grant
might be a viable option on the line. was just released. cut canty and pick him up in my humblest opinion
please
the grass isn’t greener on the other side
Charles Grant isn’t any good at all
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 4, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
well Grant is a DE.
We’d be giving up a DT for a pass rusher.
I have no problem adding a pass rusher, but not at the expense of a DT, one who’s shown nothing cuz he was hurt all year.
If Canty was healthy and did squat..OK. He was hurt (like everyone else)
Master of the squeegee
really?
I see Grant as 285 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5911
Canty as 300. That’s 15.
Before we get out of the box, lets know what’s in the box.
Canty was a 3-4 DE..which is more like a 4-3 DT.
Grant is a 4-3 DE.
Master of the squeegee
15 lbs is alot in the NFL
plus Grant was seen as lazy by his own fans this year. i remember reading there blog around the Jets game and they were complaining about him(and Will Smith to a lesser degree)
Charles Grant hasn’t been a threat in at least 3 seasons, he was a beast back when he was younger, but now i’ll pass.
grant has more sacks in the last three seasons than canty has had in his career. so dont know what you are talking about
Canty was a 3-4 DE..where you don’t get sacks, you occupy blockers to let the OLB get sacks (Ware…)
Master of the squeegee
DTs eat up blockers
DEs sack, Grant moving to DT is bad Idea he will get run all over.
All's Well that Fewell
i don't measure good or bad seasons by just sacks
Canty was never asked to get sacks in Dallas. This isn’t even about Canty though, it’s about Grant just not being good anymore.
15 is not a big deal bradshaw….you in your infinite wisdom should know that. and by the way look at the 10 other websites out there and grant is 290.
15pds
of pure muscle is a big damn difference but i am not sold on height or weight on any website for any player.
All's Well that Fewell
No more players changing positions PLEASE!
Our whole defense looked out o position last year, I am over that crap.
All's Well that Fewell
Goff plays the position too
and will cost less and not cost another pick. All I’m saying is I was right there sitting 10th row 30 yard line and still don’t know who he is. Please convince me with some facts not your opinion.
No problem
Goff won’t come close to this… besides Kirk has done it PROVEN since a rook
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7254
All's Well that Fewell
Also
given all you said his own team only gave him a 3rd round tender. Why?
I dunno what your looking for
that ain’t my opinion…Morrison started for 5 years at MLB. That’s a fact. It says he started 16 games too.
You don’t know who he is..I dunno, go to his player page and look at his stats. An NFL starter for 5 years at MLB is what we’d be looking for no?
Or do we want an OLB to switch positions for $30 million guaranteed and roll with the experiment, like the Canty one seemed to work so well in its first year?
His team is the Raiders, they don’t know what they are doing. They tendered their POS nickel corner Chris Johnson with a 1st and 3rd.
Rationalizing the Raiders moves is irrational in itself.
Master of the squeegee
Fair enough gobs
I like solo tackles over asst. If all those tackles were 5-6 yards down field though, then they are worthless. Like I said I don’t know the guy, just like Boley last year and am gun shy. Dansby I know is a player but his price tag seems to be too high at this point. I’m just affraid to give up a high third for this guy. Maybe they can pull a trade with a 5th and a Moss or something like that.
I see you
But it’s different, we lost the heart and soul, our leader and the MLB thats important and you have to try, they guy you get with a third round pick most likely will take 3yrs to pan out, its worth it the shot. BTW he played MLB in a 4-3 that seems to be the problem there isn’t many out there.
All's Well that Fewell
I doubt that the bears are going for both Rolle and Peppers
and i think if they had to pick only 1 of them they would rather have Peppers
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 4, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions
The Bears GM knows his job is on the line this season, and the Bears have the money
I would not at all be surprised if they got both
Would you guys rather have Spikes in a trade up?
with the 2nd and 3rd pick? Just asking.
He is good but I wouldn't like to see them trade up for him..maybe he'll fall in our lap..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Not sure
On one hand we need some veteran leadership, on the other hand Spikes is a bit like a younger Morrison with more upside.
Neither of them are good in zone but it looks like they are pretty good in run defense.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 4, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Was thinking our 2nd and 3rd would get us to the top 1-3 picks in the 2nd round.
If we’re giving up the 3rd rounder anyway for a 5 year vet that the Raiders don’t want. Fall in the lap would be great, unless we already used our 3rd round on RFA MLB. I’d rather the impact player that costs money and no picks in an uncapped year.
I love Spikes
Watched every Gator game, my brother went there and I was in Gainsville for the champ game sucked but had a great time, regardless not sure Spikes has enough upside for me to want him over Morrison, specially if we want to win this year, who knows.
All's Well that Fewell
Rams fan here: Quick question about Spags
From you’re experience with him, how does he value safeties? I’m trying to make sense of the low-level tender offer for OJ Atogwe, and I don’t seem to be able too. Does he just not think they are an important position?
Well, we drafted a safety in the first round the year after he was hired but when we won the SB we had 2 mediocre safeties starting
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 4, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
I’d say no, he doesn’t really feel the safety is a real important position.
Judging by our safeties under his time at least. Gibril Wilson was solid under him, and tehy didn’t blink when he left.
He values the front 7 more and probably the CB’s more then the safeties too.
Butler, Wilson, Mike Johnson (rookie 6th rounder on the SB team).
If anything, he’d go with a young player or a UDFA
Master of the squeegee
Is OJ really good?
because we sure could use some safety help. in his prime, consistent tackler, and had 8(!) picks a few years ago. Maybe a cheaper alternative of Rolle. Although i’d still take a long hard look at Sharper.
He's been very good in the past
He’s a turnover machine. I’m sure we’d give him to you cheap since we seem to be giving the Eagles some good deals if the McNabb for our second rounder rumor is true.
what's the tender agreement?
is it original round? he’s a 3rd rounder is that what they’re asking? All of these tenders and UFAs and RFAs confuse the hell out of me sometimes!
he’s flown under my radar his career but if i were j arrah i’d take a good long look at him and his asking price. Antrell Rolle is the belle of the ball right now but i think teams are starting to get infatuated with him. he’s above average, not all pro.
I actually think its merely a “right of first refusal”
Meaning they’re owed nothing..they just have 7 days to match whatever offer is there (the highest I’d assume)
Master of the squeegee
I think that's right.
I don’t understand the reasoning, but I’m trying to keep faith that they know what they’re doing. Maybe the found a loophole that will help them. I think we could be swayed into trading him if the offer was right. And he likes giving his former teams discounts it seems.
you must not have read the secret clause in Spags' contract
stating that he will continue to scout, and trade good players to the Giants for the next 5 years! hehe, too bad it didn’t also include him giving extra tips to the new(old) DC.
I don't understand that
The Rams aren’t ready to win now so why trade for a 32 year old QB who has 1 year left on his contract?
They should just draft Jevan Snead later in the draft and build a good team around him
Yeah, but anyway I’d love if we get OJ
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 4, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get it either
We’re building for the future and giving up basically a first rounder (33rd overall pick) for someone who is aging and injured often, and probably won’t be happy enough to resign with us is just stupid. I’m hoping and have to think that it is nothing but a rumor.
McNabb
is worth a 2nd rounder(more really) if your QB situation is like the Rams, McNabb is a leader and winner, hate that guy but glad Spags is taking him out of our division.
All's Well that Fewell
I think McNabb is a better fit for a team that is ready to win now
and only needs a QB – a team like the Vikings (if Favre doens’t come back), 49ers or Panthers.
The Rams are pretty much rebuilding now and are unlikely to get to the playoffs this year
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 4, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Good point
But having McNabb and an injury prone bradford learning from him or even a 3rd round QB(Tebow???) won’t be a bad thing for the Rams, I think McNabb could help them compete to win the QBless west, honestly Rams could make the playoffs with McNabb in that crap hole of a division(now that Warner is gone). IMO
All's Well that Fewell
well
this is all very disappointing.
and I’m a lot down about Morrison. Went to the Raiders blog earlier.. a Pats fan asked about him and got some pretty negative responses. Good athlete but lost at times. Doesn’t sound like the guy I want runnin our D
We had this same argument a few days ago
and when it’s all said and done, i’d still be on my soapbox about Ryans if the Raiders haven’t provided Kirk for so cheap. But all in all, he’s the best option out there.
But if we get him, buyer beware. you don’t put up stats like he’s done in his career and then be on the verge of leaving the team and your own fans aren’t exactly crying a river for you. there’s something to it.
easy to get lost
i too woould look lost playing for the raiders..even if I had step by step play by play instructions
Regroup refocus..retool...
exactly.
not saying he’s Randy Moss..but he looked shot while he was in Oakland. Goes to NE and he’s back.
Playing behind a healthy Giants DL….as long as Morrison knows how to tackle…he’s good to go.
Master of the squeegee
let's not assume health FB
Call it the Giant/Met fan in me, but i’ve seen my share of reoccurring injuries not to count any chickens.
or 'boils"
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I think if the Giants are going to get a bona fide MLB bite the bullet on Ryans
Morrison is a stop gap, Dansby is overpriced and Brackett maybe a Colt before Free Agency starts.
Ryans is a young beast of a player so get him.
He’s a year and a half younger then Morrison..and has been in the league 1 less season.
The positional value of MLB is not worth a 1st and a 3rd. Not even close. Especially if the Giants DL is healthy….
Master of the squeegee
I'm not a Morrison fan
I think Ryans would instantly upgrade our defense. In my opinion Chase Blackburn would push Morrison for playing time and that ain’t a good thing.
Morrison is a very good LB, and he wouldn't cost a 1st
If we can’t get Dansby, then we should definitely go after Morrison
they don’t need a major talent at MLB.
They need a NFL starter. Overpaying for the MLB position is not wise.
Master of the squeegee
If thats the case then just have Blackburn start. Why spend money on a guy
that isn’t overly impressive just to get him?
Mike Barrow was good..for an average team
He was good.
We don’t need an All Pro.
We need a starter.
Master of the squeegee
Blackburn?
Guy has tons of heart but no way is he comparable to Morrison, Goff is better then Blackburn.
All's Well that Fewell
I get what you're saying but I would feel much better with
Ryans. That being said if we get Morrison if that free us to get Sharper then I’m all for it.
Ryans isn't a bona fide MLB
he is an decent MLB that is not worth a 1st and 3rd round picks. For that price were better off moving up for a young guy like McClain or Spikes
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 4, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
If Ryans played on the Ravens he'd be considered a major talent he just needs
exposure. The cost maybe high but I really think he’ll make several positions better
3+hrs = 132 comments
wow
get this started already – or these guys won’t sleep!
If the Dolphins take Dansby for big $$$
and
more and more mocks have McClain in rounds 10-15
and
the Dolphins are one competitor for him
then
I hope Dansby goes to South Beach
and
the GMen get McClain
Dansby has played in a 4-3 before
And most Giants fans who want McClain are under the impression he can immediately start, which is just foolish
4-3…WLB.
The Tide had plenty of 4-3 looks, McClain was the MLB there.
McClain is the most ready to startin MLB in the game. To think any other would start is equally foolish.
Master of the squeegee
and of course he’s gonna say he likes the 3-4 better.
The Chiefs draft at #5 and the Browns at #7, both possible destinations.
That;s more money then the #15 spot.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i was just saying that
reminded me of Sunday afternoon chatter! i miss this, its like a family reunion. now all we need is the drunk angry uncle Zillag.
we are built to win now and later…our young roster shows that :)
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
as in what happens when 3/4 of the team has debilitating injuries
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
not sayin we don’t go for broke this year… we need to do what free is always sayin draft the BPA regardless of need.
I like alot of the guys on this site would love to see McClain in the meadowlands… “visions of LT’s dance in my head” But the draft is about the future hardly any Rookie is gonna make an impact
In modern NFL
at 15 he better make an impact this year
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 4, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
When you play for the Raiders
The player is lost because that Franchise is lost. The Raiders are poorly ran. Players will not play to their full potential in their schemes. Morrison could be a monster steal.
With all this chatter about our possibilities
What if we stood pat in FA…think there would be an uproar?
probably.
I’d have no problem with it at least.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well if the chips favor us getting McClain in the draft
By not making any FA signings then I’ll go with that. I realize we had a number of defensive injuries last year along with a DC who obviously struggled. Maybe Fewell, a proven DC, can have a big impact on healthy players….
I think if they were healthy, even with Sheridan…they’d at least be mediocre, at least.
I’d like to see them acquire players..but if they do, it doesn’t show me much. 2009 is still too fresh in the mind.
They signed FA’s, TWO DT’s, a LB and a safety (wait..isn’t that what we want now?) and it didn’t’ work.
Whatever they do its with good intentions.
It just irritates my balls when people go out and say “the team isn’t committed to winning if they don’t sign so and so”.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yes... and we can't afford to do that
Not when one of your starting safeties C.C. Brown, your starting MLB is Jonathan Goff, and aside from Cofield, your DTs are old, injury prone and not very good anymore
Well..we need to just see what happens..they are committed to winning..not like years
Past…there will be alot of dark circles under the eyes of the whole staff this weekend..trying to weigh their options and get us what we need..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
not like years past...I meant..I don't what the hell happened to this post..lol
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
unless its really cheap..low risk high reward type thing
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
he's getting up there in age and just came off a season ending injury
but he’s put enough work in this league where i’d kick the tires too, see if theres any tread left.
Yeah he wouldn't be a bad pick-up
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Isn't Rolle represented by Drew R.?
If so, I’m sure he will work hard to get his client to land with the giants ;)
by ZZZZMD on Mar 4, 2010 10:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Jets got Cromartie for a 2011 3rd round pick. Can escalate to a 2nd round.
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/10006648055
Not bad,. I wouldn’t have given a 1st rounder for him. Good trade for Tannenbaum and the Jets.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
it's ok
i’m afraid Cromartie is more flash than substance. Playing across from Revis will either help him or expose him. only time will tell.
His tackling is very suspect. but he's still a solid CB.
Much better than Lito Sheppard.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Mar 4, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
agree with both ya'll
Cromartie is basically as good as anyone they could’ve got with that 3rd rounder…but Cromartie’s not exactly all that good.
Also, I’ve said this before…the Jets may have a franchise QB, but they keep giving away these picks…they’re building very well for the future.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
That was indeed a good catch..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Cromartie has been terrible since 2007
so we will see if this trade is any good
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 4, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
According to Chris Mortensen's twitter
“League folks thinks it’s Giants vs. Dolphins for Dansby”
Yeah, I know I’m obsessing….
I haven’t rooted this hard for the Dolphins since they played the Jets
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
They can have him..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
WOW i love you guys....
and to think i originally planned to come on here for an hour til my girl was done watching American Karaoke….er, Idol. now i’m stuck to the mouse and screen watching for updates and new posts.
btw, these other blogs are dead, alot of them. i was actually the first one to post about Cromartie over at the Bolts site.
God I can't stand that show..pure torture..lol!!
I feel somewhat fortunate that my wife is a football fan..I say somewhat because she is a Cowboys fan..We do have alot of fun with it though..we have been jokingly squabbling all week about who’s going to get who..I told her yesterday that a couple a them daggone Cheerleaders have been tendered for a third round dick…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
LOL!
yessir. i’d tender a few of them, tender them nicely!
lol, but seriously, you’re sleeping with the enemy man! the closest ‘girl fan i deal with is my girlfriend’s sister’s boyfriend(didya follow?) but he’s cool, actually humble, not like most.
the worst is my best friend is an eagle fan, so i have to deal with his s#it all season. so i’m surrounded by the enemy too.
Haha!! yeah sleeping with the enemy is right!!
At this time of year I have keep an eye over my shoulder to make sure there isn’t a boot ready to get kicked in the ass with..lol
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
It's funny there is still 1 hour and 7 minutes before all hell starts to break loose.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I am
You guys can stay up all night and follow this if you want. I’m too darn old. I’ll catch up in the morning.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 4, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
whoa...
I’m surprised your up at this hour!
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
LOL Free!
I will admit to being in my ‘jammies.’ But, I’m still keeping track of the rumor mill. For a few more minutes, anyway.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 4, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
By the way
There will be an overnight free agency thread starting at midnight for all of you night owls. Watch, now I won’t be able to sleep and I’ll be up with the rest of you. LOL!!
by Ed Valentine on Mar 4, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
my dad's out like a lamp at 8:00 (I rip on him for it too)
then again..he’s up a 4:30 on the button..no alarm, for work
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
That is a very good point..the way I was raised..
The parents make sure the kids are tucked in bed before they carried their butts to bed..Something ain’t right here Ed..You’ll be snoring away while the kids are still ’ramm’in’ around..all night.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
he’s got an excuse..most of the time he’s going to work at 6:00.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Haha..yeah you have to get your butt up and write something Ed...
Whil I sit with my coffee reading the paper and waiting for your report..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
yeah i have a feeling ed
will be watching sportscenter with one eye closed and one open. calling himself multi-tasking! hehehe
That's good
You guys go right on ahead and carry on without me. I’ll just read the BBV Fanshots for all the news in the morning. Love it!!
by Ed Valentine on Mar 4, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Not me I'll be up and also tuning into the NFL Network..I hate waking up grumpy..I prefer to go to bed grumpy..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Bobbi..I think you need to get yourself some Ambien
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
LOL!!...too many side-effects
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
yup.
Valium is more fun anyway
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Ed before you retire for the evening...
don’t forget to leave some cookies and milk for Santa and maybe he’ll leave the Giants Rolle, Morrison and Taylor between now and morning.
Hopefully Chester
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Rolle
appears to be on his way to New York tomorrow, which I’m sure you already know. That would be a good move.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 4, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting present Ed
Mort says we off $8mill for Rolle.
Dansby decides between the Giants and Dolphins.
…since when is it a good idea to steal former Cardinals defenders?
Master of the squeegee
Well ...
I hear you, but shoot the way the Giants played last year it’s hard to complain. I’ll feel good if we bat 50% on Dansby and Rolle.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 4, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
was just on dawgs by nature and d’qwell jackson is unhappy as a Brown. wonder if he’s quietly being shopped around. another interesting name to throw into the mixed bag of dansby, morrison, ryans, brackett, bullock, foote…..
yes he's another good name out there
Tho the 3-4 thing is there…as is the fact he was only in a couple games last year after being out with an injury.
I’d say he’s more of a last ditch effort, unless the cost is really low.
The 3-4 with him doesn’t bother me as much (he’s the “MLB” ILB in his D), but the injury worries me
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Shoulder
so actually…not as concering.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'd prefer Rolle over Dansby
An all “U” safety tandem can’t be a bad thing, can it?
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Is Rolle really worth $8 million though?
I’d much prefer drafting a S and just going with a lesser S FA for a year
I think so.
IMO finding a cover safety is tougher then finding a “hard hitting dumb dumb”.
….it might even make taking Taylor Mays an idea (can’t believe I just wrote that…)
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
i'd still take a hard look at Sharper
can’t be asking as much, def. less years, and we can draft a safety in his stead to groom in a year or two.
I hereby vote we somehow keep Ed up all night..If we had his phone number we
could jingle in all night..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Well maybe that's not a good idea...because Mr. Valentine would not be Mrs Valentines 'Valentine' next year..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Antrel Rolle was reportedly at tonight's Lakers-Heats game in Miami....
http://twitter.com/OmarKelly/status/10009506485
I am so confused right now
he’s from Miami…he’s probably just home anyway.
He’s visiting NY on Friday, so I don’t think he’s negotiating there just yet.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
cant believe
I’m actually excited about football 6 months away from the season. God this is a long off season
Please do something to avoid this in the future JR
Okay here's another funny war story while we wait for the clock to turn our teams into pumkins..
One night, four weeks into desert storm..I have to think about how to say this without being offensive..Well, normally us pilots didn’t go out on these mission but we had a bunch of sick guys so I went out to ‘paint targets’..which is basically hitting them with a lasar that loads the coordinates into a hardened laptop, then you go back and upload them into your on-board weapons system computer..makes it easy to locate, target, shoot and get out of dodge..Well, I went out with two guys and we snuck up close enough to target a bridge to wipe out the next night..We had night-vision binnoculars..Well, all of a sudden the guys with me heard me say ‘Holy-shit"!!..and they got panicky and asked "What’s the matter Sir!!!"..I told them “look!! 7 o’clock”…Well, they all started howling with laughter..these Iraqi soldiers were in, how do I put it..hmmm various states of sexual gratification with each other..yep..I’ll leave the rest up to your imagination..Well we just laughed our asses off..afterall, we weren’t going to get caught while they all had their pants down…haha…So anyway the next night I took the bridge out…Now that story will lead into my story later on about taking a nap in my F-117A.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Haha..no you certainly would not..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
The funny thing about that..was while the guys I was with focussing on the target and getting it right..
Their pilot captain was looking at other stuff..lol..Hell I just flew the damn plane..They picked and chose my targets..To this day they think I’m crazier than a shit-house rat..I always hated to come back with any ordinance left so I would radio in and had guys on the ground tell me where to dump it to help them out of a situation they were in..I can’t tell you how many times I was ‘counseled’ during my de-briefs..but the most important guys to me were the guys on the ground..I figured I ain’t out here for joy-rides..If they were in a fix I was going to help them out of it and talk to the boss about it later..but always made sure there were not any civilians involved..there was alot of that but I can tell you we always did and still do focus on preventing that, but if my guys were in trouble I never hesitated to throw what I had left at the enemy.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
talk about playing for the other team..
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 5, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
skins went cut crazy today
anyone wanna take a look at rock cartwright or ladell betts? strictly to deepen the position, if Andre doesn’t come back to where we want him to be.
Rock plays some fullback, you could use him as opposed to madison on passing downs, or just to give the D another look. plus he’s familiar with the NFC BEast…
I'd be good with Betts
I guess…tho I like the Chester Taylor idea a lot (Thomas Jones too..tho he may cost too much)
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 5, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Betts would come waaaaayyyy cheaper than both of them
and both him and cartwright are only 30, so you could get a half decent year from them, even if it’s the 3rd or 4th string back, as insurance, or for special teams reasons. Kind of what Droughns was for his cup of coffee here.
with Chester and TJ, there gonna warrant major playing time with there money and past pedigree. And i don’t wanna do that, unless all 3 of our guys fall on there face again.
Interesting that the Shan-man is cleaning house..I'd be a little wary about players he cuts.
But then again you have to take a peek at them
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Hmmm.....
Ed is looking smarter and smarter while getting his zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz’s
Not too many signings till Monday imo...and some Algebra
Why would some player take X amount of dollars from team A when team B hasn’t yet offered unknown Y amount of dollars
You may be right...
But if I was C C Brown and someone offered me an NFL contract after last year, I’d sign it quick before they changed their minds!
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