New York Giants notes: Don't look at that picture!
OK, so my primary reason for posting anything this morning is to scare the daylights out of you this morning with the photo at right.
Yeah, I'm as petrified at the thought of Michael Johnson and C.C. Brown both making the New York Giants roster as you are.
Anyway, there is just a little bit of news.
Mike Garafolo has a list of several players who will be in East Rutherford for pre-draft workouts in the coming weeks. Many of them have ties to the New York/New Jersey area. To me, that says some of these guys could be among the undrafted free agents who get invites to training camp.
Matt Mosley of ESPN breaks down the entire list of draft picks for all four NFC East teams.
It seems running back Brandon Jacobs might disagree with anyone who says things like 'Drafting C.J. Spiller isn't such a bad idea.'
"I'm trying to have this be my breakout season and rush for more [yards] than I've ever rushed for and score more than I've ever scored," Jacobs said. "I have a big goal for myself. I'm going to wake the people up who've fell asleep on me."
A left knee injury was part of the problem for Jacobs last year. He had arthroscopic surgery in January, and yesterday, he said the knee has not been a problem.
He said he spends a "couple [of] days a week" reviewing negative things that were said and written about him last year as motivation for the upcoming season.
"I feel like I'm on the verge of where I could be that great back and I could be a back that's not just taking up a roster spot," Jacobs said. "I felt like that's what I was last year. I definitely need to do a lot better than what I did."
Hey, if I can write stuff that ticks Jacobs off and gets him to play better I'm fine with that. Just remind me to stay away from him at training camp. It scared me enough when he almost ran me over last summer.
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Playing with Balls
I’d have those two making plays on balls in the air all day long. Maybe some lifting, but I’d have them out on the practice field covering Barden, Hagan, and Beckham. Making plays on the ball in the air was a huge weakness last year, and all the conditioning in the world won’t help with that…
True, but ...
You can’t really do on-field stuff right now. Not sure exactly how the rules read, but I know there are limitations.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 28, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Jacobs needs to stop getting hurt.
Stop yapping…cuz when he says stuff like the injury didn’t affect him much last year…yet he ran like a puss the whole season. If the injury didn’t affect? Well…
The Giants are gonna be sorry if they don’t get a RB.
DWTDD
I don't remember him saying that
I remember him saying that the injury affected him but it’s not an excuse.
I also
remember we didn’t hear a thing about his knee until Week 16, put up or shut up time this season for Jacobs.
by Great Gatsby on Mar 28, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Does he need to stop getting hurt? Or trying to play while hurt?
he never said anything when he was hurt….and didn’t complain at all
i guess after 14 more games of hearing people call him a puss probably made him feel he had to disclose his injury….but i guess the fact that he got IR’d and had to have surgery said it for him.
what’s he suppose to do when asked about his injury? Say “no comment” and than get crucified even more???
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
you all must have selective memory!
DWTDD
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 28, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
^that's the wrong video!
but he done said it.
Stop getting hurt, stop playing hurt….
DWTDD
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 28, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
"no big deal"
“its all mental”.
“nothing bothering me!
DWTDD
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 28, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
He got IR'd and had Surgery.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
so what, he was playing hurt...all year
it was his knee, the same knee that bothered him after the 1st game vs. washington.
sure some weeks were better than others, and if you watch the tape Jacobs ran much better for a stretch there in the 2nd half. But he got dinged again and that was it…
Even bradshaw had a stretch there when he wasn’t doing much behind our porous Offensive Line.
either way, i don’t see how you can knock the guy for yapping about it when he’s forced to talk to the media and he’s clearly doing his best to hide the truth…which the organization has clearly told him to do so.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
I guess the "yapping"
was too general.
I meant he should basically shut up in general…“gonna have a break out season”, we hate Dallas…all at that.
He needs to shut up and play.
DWTDD
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 28, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
all the injured players need to shut up and just rehab and Ball out next season!!!! TC’s motton that was on T shirts and written through out the facility was “Talk is cheap” but it seems they have all forgotten that. Osi, Brandon, DJ ware…..
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Shut up and play
This idea that keeping quiet and playing well are mutually exclusive is just wrong. It’s never “shut up and play.” People say that but in truth it’s just “play.” The fact of the matter is that if Jacobs had rushed for 1,400 yards last season, he could go right on talking without any outcry by fans. Fans don’t want to hear you when you play poorly but that’s our problem. A player’s silence isn’t going to help him when he gets on the field.
They're damned if they do...
or don’t. if athletes do speak, they’re lambasted for opening there mouth. if they don’t they’re lambasted for not being media friendly. I feel bad sometimes for these guys. then i remember how much money they make!
One more thing
Mosley on ESPN really does suck, just a Cowboy fan parading as a blogger.
He had the Giants taking Spikes, raise your hands, if you think that’s happening?
I dont think it will but alot of the people inside the buildint appearently
still love Spikes according to Rich Eisen
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mosley is alright
Yeah he probably leans toward the cowboys, but I think he does a great job. He also has a good sense of the division-
when asked during a fanchat who will have the best draft this year in the beast? he answered “give me reese and the giants”. gotta count for something right? ha
As for Jacobs
We have enough Running Backs, i mean we still collectively ran for 1600 yards or so on a dwn year with bad run blocking so im not as worried as everyone is, I also dont think you guys are that worried I think its more of a CJ spiller love affair thing going on because if it was a running back issue then why have i not heard any other name mentioned besides spiller??? No one says Joe Mcknight in the later rounds or anything.
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maybe true
but Gates, personally I’d be ok with Best in the second (doubt he’ll be there though). You might be right about some of the guys here, but I think a lot of us are just recognizing that we don’t have a guy who can catch out of the backfield consistently, which limits our options in pass-pro and attacking linebackers in coverage
dont get me wrong though
I’m a proponent of taking a lot of guys ahead of spiller. just saying i get the spiller fans, even if i’m not in their camp entirely
I See your point
I get them too but and you are absolutely correct about the catching out of the backfield thing but rd.1??? this is a good running back class especially from a back up standpoint but I understand the worries and concerns
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And
Why is everyone mad at CC & Michael trying to get better and making the team, its clear the Giants want them too, and why all the hate on two backups who would excell in a limited role, SMH you guys have absolutely no idea how hard it is to build a team of quality players. If JR was as quick as you guys you want him to be in letting guys go after bad years, are you aware that we would not have people like Corey Webster on the team.
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by Blue Gates on Mar 28, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i'm with you
actually it’s useful to have a gap filling safety in the red zone d-package. If someone goes jumbo set or w/e a guy like brown can play contain or rush C gap and be in charge of covering first back out of backfield.. i think his real problems were in cover 2, he shouldnt be taking a half (or third), he’s not that type of player
EXACTLY!!
he has a purpose, they know what he is good at and what he is bad at and clearly what he is good at, he is the best at otherwise he would not have lasted longer than Aaron Rouse who was obviously not skilled in the area that CC excells in……what, do people think he was tendered by mistake and JR and TC dont notice CC is still in the building??
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CC Brown is an in the box safety. He was brought to NY to play that roll. Injuries forced him into a position he wasn’t meant for. Then SHeridan compounded the issue by not gameplanning around what he had. CC Brown is a quality box safety to have on the roster for that purpose. Don’t expect him to be a middle fielder and you won’t be dissapointed. I also don’t get all the hate for Michael Johnson. He’s not a useless player. Nobody ever had a problem with him when he was playing beside Phillips (or even when he was playing beside Butler). When Johnson was paired up with Brown or Rouse though he was asked to cover way more field than he had been playing beside Phillips or Butler. Heck Johnson even played well paired with Craig Dahl, remember that? What I’m saying basically is people shouldn’t hate Johnson because if Phillips can’t go or gets hurt again Johnson will be fine paired with Rolle. Probably a more solid option than any rookie we would bring in.
by bigblue777 on Mar 28, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
CJ Spiller @ 15 if he's there...
..if the holes are small or close fast,get someone who can hit them really fast!Sorry guys but Big Jake and Bradshaw won’t last so lets get a star in there.
I think Spiller is a real talent...
but I also think at the #15 pick the Giants are going to have a chance to get another real talent, i.e. McClain or Morgan for the defensive side and are more likely to go that way. We need a MLB and Osi needs to “put up and shut up” and has done neither over the past year. I don’t think Spiller is the likely pick for the Giants at #15, but I DO think we need to pick up a running back somewhere in the draft. Jabobs is coming off a subpar year/injury, Bradshaw off of a gutty, but injured campaign, Brown is a bigger question mark coming off the torn Achilles than either of the other two, Ware has been injured and ineffective and Johnson came over on waivers and hardly played. If everyone is healthy and returns to form, the backfield is a strength, if they’re all dogged by injuries or play as they did last year, we have problems. I suspect the Giants can find someone to their liking somewhere in the first five rounds, but I think Fewell and his side of the ball are likely to get the first pick, given the way the draft is likely to fall in my opinion. Add to that, that the odds are about the same for Spiller being gone BEFORE the Giants pick as McClain and/or Morgan and I don’t put Spiller in a Giants uniform as a high probability, though if he were, it wouldn’t be the end of the world. No, he wouldn’t help the Giants defense, but he sure would create problems for any defensive coordinator trying to shut down the Giant offense. The combo of Manning, Nicks, Manningham, Smith, Boss, Jabobs, Bradshaw, Spiller and Co. is just too many weapons to be comfortable going against. That said, it would be a departure from the recent Giants tradition of DEFENSE first, and I’m not an advocate of that, but in the end, if we win 17-7 or 35-28, as long as we’re overpowering on one side of the ball enough to WIN, I’ll learn to like it.
Well said!!
I can live with that.
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by superstarzchef on Mar 29, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
it's funny
everyone talks about how Big Boy lost a step last season, but i was just re-watching the second Cowboys game and just watching him out run linebackers and safeties on that little pass in the flat was a thing of beauty! i think we’ve given up way to fast on the big bruiser.
BTW, yes, Flozell Adams is still a bitch! shoving Tuck like that. tuck is too nice a guy, me and Flozell would still be rumbling!
No Tuck is soft you mean
No one ever notices that he gets pushed but the first one that reacts and does something is KIWI, he is the heart and you can see it all in that altercation, Tuck is a beast on the field and could probably Knock Flozell out but he is not confrontational. I have all the respect for Kiwi for being the first one in flozells grill while tuck (who is my favorite Giant) simply gives flozell a little love tap on his shoulder then fades to the back. SMH
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yeah i wouldn't call Tuck soft
but that was pretty accurate, Kiwi was the one in his face, then the rest of the team, with Jacobs getting in there at the end. Tuck just seems laid back, like you have to prod him for a good minute to make his temper boil.
Adams
always was a dirty player….Justins’ smart for not taking the penalaties.
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Penalties @ Halftime??
I dont think either team was penalized ( I could be wrong) but at that point in the season I take the penalties and show some damn heart, all he had to do was what kiwi did but he faded to the back, You never back down frrom an inter division fight dammit. LMAO
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it was never made clear
by joe buck and troy, but Flozell did receive a personal foul flag but for some reason the Giants declined it….that doesn’t make sense, but that’s what they said.
I think there WAS a penalty called...
But it was required that it be declined, which made no sense. I believe the rules committee or some such group revisited that problem in the last two weeks or so to change the situation to something that made sense.

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