New York Giants News & Notes: Some More About Osi
by cjmulrain on Mar 26, 2010 11:57 AM EDT
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Just in case you're not sick of the Osi Umenyiora coverage yet, there's some more stories surfacing. He talked to the media yesterday, and after answering "no comment" to the first few questions, he eventually got going, indicating that his situation with the Giants isn't quite resolved yet. This is reminding me a bit of the Jeremy Shockey situation two years ago, where it's just clear that the player and the team are not on the same page. At this point, I'm not going to be shocked by anything that happens in this saga - I can see Osi lining up opposite Justin Tuck again next September just as easily as I can see him getting traded on draft day or even in the months after, ala Shockey. Matt Mosley pried himself away from the Donovan McNabb trade rumors for a few minutes to offer his take.
- File this under "terrible news": it's looking more and more likely that Kenny "I feel real good" Phillips won't be ready for training camp, and Tom Coughlin doesn't sound too optimistic about his prospects for next season. I think Phillips' health is the really big wildcard for what the Giants do in the draft, even more than the Osi situation.
- Brian Kehl and Gerris Wilkinson are both hoping for the opportunity to compete for the middle linebacker slot, but they also seem pretty realistic about the Giants plans. I think both guys are solid depth players, but barring a fantastic training camp/preseason from either of them, I'm hoping neither one is on the field for the opening drive of the 2010 season.
- David Diehl says he has no plans to give up his left tackle spot to William Beatty. I like Diehl's attitude, and he's far exceeded expectations since being shifted over from guard, but I have to think the Giants would be very happy if Beatty came into camp and took the tackle spot away from Diehl. If Beatty turns out to be a true left tackle, they can slide Diehl back inside, and the whole line will be better for it.
- Tom Coughlin might be visiting Plaxico Burress in jail soon, but don't expect the Giants to bring him back when his jail term is up. I know a lot of Giants fans are still mad at Plax, but I hope the guy is doing as well as one can do in prison, and I'll be rooting for him to get back to the NFL and have some success when he gets out.
- The Giants already have the best-looking regular uniforms in the NFL*, and now they're gonna look good off the field too: they signed an endorsement deal with suit manufacturer Joseph Abboud. (*the Chargers powder blues are an alternate uni.)
- Finally, I'm really only linking to this as an excuse to run the picture you've probably been staring at for the past few minutes, but "New York Giants Girl" Reby Sky has been named "Miss Howard TV of the Year" by Howard Stern fans. Congrats, Reby!
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Nice to see Reby's got the tramp stamp....
anywho,
I think Coughlin’s just being cautious in his tone with KP. You can’t expect him to be 100%. If he is, he is. But I’m glad they’re going in with the idea that the outlook doesn’t look good, even if there is plenty of evidence that says the contrary.
And I have no problem with Kehl, Goff or Wilkenson being the MLB on opening day. The way its looking, it would be a rookie anyway or one of those 3. Unless that rook’s McClain, I dunno that the starter on opening day can be anyone else.
DWTDD
Gerris Wilkinson
I’m not as mortified as other people are with GW moving to MLB. He was the 3rd best MLB in the 2006 draft as rated by Scout.com, right behind D’qwell Jackson. He was an MLB for 2 years in the ACC and a very good one at that. He seems to be excited about the possibilities, which is more than I could say before this year. Let’s see how it goes. Personally, I think he has the potential to be a very good backup.
I'm not denying his talent
the problem is that he is really frail and not someone who you should count on for 16 games.
But maybe on the other hand if he isn’t on special teams duty then he will stop getting hurt so much…
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 26, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats what I seem to remeber as well……some people have short-term memory loss around here….plus he’s done well on ST’s and gets barely any credit for that too.
Superstarzchef.....RABID GIANTS Fan on an Island
by superstarzchef on Mar 27, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Earl Thomas
Almost have to pick him up at 15 if hes there now.. unless mcclain drops. if thats the case you almost have to go S with #46. Say it isnt so Kenny!! the last thing in the world that i want is any of the safetys from 2009 being on the feild on 2010.
I dont trust Wilkinson one bit. hes been hurt every single year right? what makes this year any different? trust me i hope he does a complete 180 and turns out to be awesome i just really dont see it happening. Same with Kehl. I can see Goff being OK but IMO none of those 3 will be the kind of player we want to have running our defense.
Lawyer: Peter, Sarah has decided to press sexual harrasssment charges against you.
Peter: Sarah...Is that the one we video taped taking a dump?
by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
+1, and -1
I don’t wanna see a repeat of last year please draft ET if McClain aint there. Proceed as JR said, with the assumption that KP ain’t coming back.
Those 3 LB’s need to be given a good run at it before you throw them in the Bay. Kehl and Goff at least. Drafted high by the guy we all say we trust. Well, let’s let this group of backers on the field. I’ve said it here before, last year we all thought Eli would have no one to throw the ball to… now were overstocked at WR and TE. All of these players need time to grow into the NFL size, intelegence, speed, and maturity. I think the LB corps will be fine… not sayin i wouldn’t want McClain if he’s there, but i don’t wanna trade for anybody that’s out there either.
Ive given up on Kehl and Wilkinson already
i hope they prove me wrong i really do.. but Kehl is a career back up, and wilkinson has done as much to improve the D as I have. i can see Goff being a decent starter and i really hope he pans out if we cant get mcclain. as most Giants fans im worried about the MLB postion this year and right now, in house, i dont see an answer unless Goff really steps it up.
Lawyer: Peter, Sarah has decided to press sexual harrasssment charges against you.
Peter: Sarah...Is that the one we video taped taking a dump?
by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
but of course
like you said.. thats what we all thought about the WRs last year, so hopefully it all works out the exact same way.
Lawyer: Peter, Sarah has decided to press sexual harrasssment charges against you.
Peter: Sarah...Is that the one we video taped taking a dump?
by Plaxico Burress on Mar 26, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
why don't you just come out and say it ed....
TRADE OSI.
he’s obviously the biggest p.o.s. to ever suit up for the giants ….EVER.
you know what, don’t trade him….cut him.
or even better, take him out back and shoot him in the head….
You know i hated the way Shockey left town…but everything he said about the media in this city is 100% correct.
Giants.com even removed Osi’s interview from their website….
Just crucify the guy already!!!! I’ll get the cross….
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
LOL!!
Hey, yell at CJ. I didn’t write this one. By the way, all he said was Osi still does not seem happy. I spoke with both Pat Traina and Ernie Palladino yesterday, and both said you could clearly see from his face and his body language that Osi is still not happy with his situation.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 26, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I saw the interview
It was up on the Giants website but they took it down which in it self is strange so it looks like he has managed to piss them off again. Watching it you could clearly see in his face he was lying, they asked him if he will be a problem, he said no but he also said he’s not going to speak and give robotic answers that aren’t the truth and his true feelings have gotten him in trouble so he will be quiet. He basically was being an ass again but he did say he like fewells system cause the ends are split wider and they go up field alot more.
Leader of the Price-McClain Campaign!!
wow
not sure how you got that reaction to what I wrote – I haven’t said a bad thing about Osi this entire time. He’s been one of my favorite players for year, but it seems pretty obvious that he’s not entirely happy with the Giants right now. I hope they resolve everything and he comes back and dominates next year, but I just wouldn’t be surprised if the Giants moved him, the same way they moved Shockey. They seem to have a pretty low tolerance for headaches, and like it or not, the Osi thing has turned into a headache.
2009 Did Not Happen
How has Osi turned into a headache? He even says that he doesn't want to talk about he situation.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 26, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
and then he went ahead and talked about the situation
I’m not blaming Osi – it’s the media that’s running with this thing. But when a story like this keeps going, it’s a headache whether it’s the players fault or not.
2009 Did Not Happen
I wouldn't put what he said into the "headache" jar
He just expressed his feelings on his situation. Not causing a headache for any player or coach.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 26, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Two Tylenols and .....
…..The media is blowing it up. There are no real “stories” coming out of GIANTS land. Shockeys gone, and the NY Dailies/press/sports/beat reporters need to “have” something to “cover”. Osi should stay, just keep his mouth shut a little, let his production on the field rise to what it’s capable of, and then he’ll get what he wants.
Superstarzchef.....RABID GIANTS Fan on an Island
by superstarzchef on Mar 27, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't knock Osi for wanting to play more.
I’m not giving up on Osi. If he can deal with the injuries and get healthy then he should be able to quiet his critics, and hopefully be content with his playing time. Guess this is the year be we, NYG, decide on Kiwi or Osi.
Definitely need to give Tuck some help, the guy isn’t going to last much longer carrying our defense.
OI812
I just don't see Osi being nearly as toxic as Shockey ...
Like most of these things, the audio sounds way better than the printed transcript, and I was among those ready to crucify him when this first flared up a month or so ago. I kind of like how he handled it this time around.
Plus, you can’t just move every guy who squawks, for whatever you can get. Then the inmates run the asylum. If they can get a # 2 for him, and get a good DE at the middle or end of Round 1, I’m good with that. But no super urgency.
Finally … Reby … * sigh *
this phillips thing is grim
i think the giants need to pick whichever of these three is available at 15
earl thomas
dan williams
or maclain
’cause we got a gaping whole at all three.
Trade Osi and our 6th for rams 2nd. Then draft Derrick Morgan in 1st, Brandon spikes in 2nd, best safety or Dt available with other 2nd, then Dt or safety in 3rd and finally o-line depth and the FPA (fastest player available)
by MIKES92 on Mar 26, 2010 1:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'd rather re-sign Antonio Pierce then draft Spikes....
DWTDD
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
AGREED
No on Spikes. I would rather Free start at MLB. Drafting Earl Thomas at #15 is not a bad idea. The guy can play both safety and corner. Gives some versatility.
We've got some pretty good depth at MLB
Free might be able to fight for a roster spot at Strong Safety though. He’d probably be just as good at giving up touchdown bombs to DJax as anyone on the roster last year…
I ain't exactly NFL shape or size at this point...
but I could knock some heads around for a few plays….
DWTDD
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 26, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lol...lol...lol...lol...lol......
Superstarzchef.....RABID GIANTS Fan on an Island
by superstarzchef on Mar 28, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Fastest Player Available
With that approach, you’ll probably be looking at drafting Taylor Mays at safety.
by Slingblade10 on Mar 26, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol if spikes runs a 5 in the 40, then pierce runs a 5.2 easily. Spikes is meaner aswell. We need a mauler on defence
by MIKES92 on Mar 26, 2010 1:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Would want Sun Dial Spikes in the second...
or third….or fourth. Don’t really want him at all, but if’s still around after four rounds, even I would take a look, then probably pass on him again.
I found Ohara's replacement..
She’s at the top. Who cares if she can snap the ball or make line calls.
I bet she'd be awesome
the opposing players would a) be afraid to hurt her, and b) be distracted as hell. Brandon Jacobs could run for 4,000 yards
2009 Did Not Happen
Umm ...
Yeah, but I’m not so sure Eli’s wife would be too happy about him taking those ‘direct’ snaps.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 26, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
"uh, i have no comment on that"
lol.. sorry guys.. i couldnt help but to lol everytime i saw him repeat that
Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do
Wow, that story about Phillips is convoluted as hell
Nothing different has been said by anyone, including TC. Just different language is causing this gloom and doom deal. Nothing has changed. He starts running sometime next week. We’ll know more then.
Let’s all chill out a bit until then.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
The Sky is Falling
I agree with sunlion on Phillips. Coughlin didn’t say anything new it just seemed like he was preparing for the worst, which he has to do. When asked if Phillips is going to play this year he said, “I think so.” That doesn’t sound too bad, it sounds realistic, and I’d much rather them be realistic with a backup plan than optimistic with a CC Brown…
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