New York Giants News & Notes: Osi to Return Next Year
by cjmulrain on Mar 24, 2010 12:00 PM EDT
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Ralph Vacchiano reports that despite "chatter" that Osi Umenyiora might retire or be dealt, General Manager Jerry Reese has said that he will be returning to the Giants next season. I think this is good news. Despite some of Osi's flaws, he's still a good defensive end who had a decent season coming off an injury. If he's fully recovered by next season, he can still be a force on defense. He also gives the Giants added flexibility, both in terms of the draft and going into next season.
Also, it's worth reading that article for the blurb about newly signed Australian punter Jy Bond, who apparently can punt with both legs. Not sure how useful that is, but it sounds cool.
The Giants, like all NFL teams, have a bevy of players from big-time athletic schools, with top-notch football and basketball programs. Kind of funny, then, that the only guy on the Giants roster who's college is in the Sweet 16 is Kevin Boothe, of Cornell. Michael Eisen talked with Boothe about it. I don't care who you've got in your bracket, you've gotta be pulling for Cornell tomorrow.
Some more talk about the Giants new stadium: Matt Mosley talked to both Roger Goodell and Steve Tisch about the coin toss flap, the Super Bowl, and the new stadium. Also, Jets owner Woody Johnson spoke to Fox News last night about the new stadium, and says that he and the Maras are on good terms and are working together to try to get the Super Bowl. He also displays a lack of knowledge of basic geography, claiming that the Super Bowl would "be in New York."
Finally, Gary Myers relays a fantastic tour of the new stadium. For all the griping about PSL's and naming rights and all the like, the place sounds like it's going to be an awesome place to watch a football game, and an even better place for the Giants to play. Hopefully, they can have as much success there as they had in the place across the parking lot.
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Reese says Osi is returning.
Just like he feels the MLB rotation is solid with Wilkenson, Sintim, Goff and Kehl.
DWTDD
posturing
just to keep Osi’s value high on the trade market.
sure...
what do you expect him to do?
DWTDD
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 24, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't wait until april
get to see the seats in the new stadium
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 24, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
Osi to Return Next Year ...
Bulletin.
This just in.
Of course. Every whiner is returning the next year if they want to get paid, unless the GM gets an offer he can’t refuse.
Attention!!!: Prepare to enter the Dark Zone.
All information heard once we enter should be disregarded as misdirection, deception and manipulation. Refer to your training manual as to how to purport yourselves.
We will exit the zone by April 25th. Thank you for your patience and consideration.
Best regards,
NFL Fan Management
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I like April 25th too.
I used to get gifts.
Now I get dinner!
DWTDD
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 24, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Except for the Patriots injury report ... all year long ...
still a pile of BS.
I mean..what's JR supposed to say?
“I have this thorn in my right asscheek, I decided to name it Osi Umenyiora….calling 31 NFL GM’s, please give me the best offer to remove said thorn”.
DWTDD
Rolando McClain's stock is falling?
PewterReport.com reports Alabama LB Rolando McClain’s NFL Draft stock is in decline, according to a league scout, due to recent developments regarding his Crohn’s disease, which was disclosed after he could not finish his Pro Day workout. McClain probably went from a mid first-round draft pick to a late first-round pick to maybe even a second-round selection.
i hope so
let his draft stock fall all the way to number 15 because thats as far as hes going to fall no matter what happens
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Peter: Sarah...Is that the one we video taped taking a dump?
by Plaxico Burress on Mar 24, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
can u link that?
Lawyer: Peter, Sarah has decided to press sexual harrasssment charges against you.
Peter: Sarah...Is that the one we video taped taking a dump?
by Plaxico Burress on Mar 24, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's mixing that up with the other MLB for the other team playing in the SEC champ game.
McClain may not be a top 5 pick anymore. I think he’s still a top 15 pick. Or at least he better be.
DWTDD
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 24, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know how seriously I can take a report from a guy who calls himself "NFL Scout"
McClain’s diclosure of his Crohn’s will have little to no effect on his draft stock.
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Crohn's Disease
Chris Mortensen reported a few weeks ago that numerous NFL scouts questioned McClain’s intensity and competitiveness because he seemed to loaf a lot on tape. That was before his condition was known. Perhaps it was his Crohn’s disease flaring up. Just like he needed a breather during his Pro Day workout, maybe he needed that during games.
I really have no clue what they are talking about
I’ve managed to get DVD’s of every game McClain played in college and the All-American Bowl in Ft. Lauderdale and the Decatur-Austin games from high school where he played some TE.
I haven’t seen him show any drop in effort. He does, however, make things look like they are just easy for him and is conservative and compact in his movement.
With the medical and nutritional resources of a NFL team, there should be no bumps in the road in his pro career. Garrard was way more advanced in the condition than McClain before being diagnosed, therefore less damage, if any, has been doen to his intestines.
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McClain
His Footwork is impeccable to be that big, thats what sets him apart, He does half ass it at times but excellent prospect still. His intelligence and Footwork are what grabs my attention when I watch.
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I doubt he falls but If he is
he probably is falling to his real position, MLB falls into that inflation category which has stocks rising because of limited talent this year, If all the backers who went last year came out with him then he wouldve been late 1st to mid second, he doesnt even get considered in the top 10 like he is this year but hey it is what it is……still an impresive mind with excellent footwork.
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MLB's always drop in the drafts
guys that play tackle, WR, DE and QB are always getting drafted earlier than their talent says they should and linebackers, safeties and guards always go lower than they should
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 24, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
For the McClain lovers
This is a copy from espn insider so i cant link it (yes i am a dumbass that pays every month for this)
Rolando McClain is sure to be a first-rounder this April, and some think he could be the first LB off the board. Who’ll take him? We’ve always thought the New York Giants would be a logical spot, and the San Francisco 49ers have also been rumored to be interested.
McClain opted out of the combine workouts, which disappointed some and raised questions for others on McClain’s competitiveness. But McClain did impress a very important member of the Giants’ staff at Alabama’s pro day: head coach Tom Coughlin. According to Newsday’s Bob Glauber, Coughlin also spoke to ’Bama coach Nick Saban about McClain, possibly finding out how well the youngster would do, shifting to a 4-3 MLB position.
According to Steve Muench of Scouts, Inc., the decision to drop out of the combine workouts probably won’t drop his draft stock too much, and it appears that he might not make it past the Giants if he’s still on the board for them.
A little off topic.
Was there a WFAN report that McNabb was traded? I keep hearing from sources that he was traded to the Rams. So it on a few blogs, but nothing official. I need someone to confirm this. Since you guys are in NY, I figured you would know.
In Kolb we trust
I realize there's a policy against mentioning the NCAA tournament but...
Cj started it.
GO BIG RED!!! John Wall ain’t got nothing on Louis Dale.
If we win, we prove teams don’t need to hire cheating scumbags to do well in sports.
And to make this relevant, there’s so much smoke and bull being tossed around right now… Why would JR mention the actual draft strategy? There’s no point, period. SMOKESCREEN!
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
GO BIG RED! (BA Comp Sci, Arts & Sci, ’99)
This just in ...
Andy Reid says he’ll definitely keep all 3 QB’s. May even draft another one in the 1st Round … developing …
Actually, Reid said that they are "entertaining" offers when he was interviewed at the league meetings.
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we all were being told here in Philly that it was reported on WFAN that McNabb was
traded to the Rams. But that report was over an hour ago, still no confirmations. Sounds bogus to me. I’m sure no one has heard such a thing on WFAN. I think someone overheard something.
In Kolb we trust
It would have been picked up by one of the bigger sites by now if it was on WFAN.
It would, at least, be on profootballtalk.com. Those guys are pretty quick on the trigger.
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The Philadelphia inquirer say via an unnamed source that the Eagles have.......
….dropped their asking price for McNab to a second round pick or a combination of picks.
I know Spags is working his team owners over as we speak. It would be alot cheaper than going with a 1st overall pick and McRalph is a good fit.
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I doubt McNabb...
is worth the #1 overall pick. Maybe a few years ago, but he has some mileage and hasn’t played a full season in a long time. Could see him as maybe a 2nd and 5th round picks. Plus, as a Husker and NY Giant fan, I cannot let the Eagles get that #1 pick and get Suh. That would be my personal hell.
They wouldn't touch him for first overall
Give these people some credit. Even Al Davis wouldn’t give up a top ten for him.
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McNabb's going downhill
while those 2 hopefully would go uphill.
Well, at least CLausen will. Bradford’s gonna fall flat on his face.
DWTDD
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 24, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were the Rams
and taking Bradford…I’d consider that…at least if I was taking Bradford. He has to sit for a year or 2. With his flash card run offense, he ain’t ready to read an NFL playbook or defense.
Clausen on the other hand…
But 2 picks for 2 QB’s? Unless we’re talking about 4th round or so..then that’s too much.
DWTDD
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 24, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not about who's better, it's about value
If you look at it as if you would pick a 33 year old probowl QB who can’t make it through two seasons in a row with a top ten draft pick, you just hung your future on a paper hook.
The draft is how you build your team, and you don’t build your team with players on the downswing. Think of it like building a house with crumbling bricks.
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I completely feel you
But this is a win now league, coaches are not willing to bet the next 10 yrs on a kid unless they must, taking mcnabb ensures your job for the present and immediate future, taking bradford is for way down the line but i feel you. I would take mcnabb and try to win now though.
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Feel a little deeper
My point was that the cost was prohibitive before they lowered their asking price, therefore the lack of true interest in McScab. I’m betting the switchboards are lighting up with the new price.
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Of course
and i dont know about that, a 1st round pick is high to ask for anybody these days, I cant think of a player I would just jump out there and give a 1st round pick plus other pick(s) as well as giving the newly aquired player a larger contract. That doesnt happen too often especially moving forward from this point so of course the switch boards are lighting up. Thats why teams tender players with 1st round picks because they know that automatically gets rid of everyone except the raiders and redskins of old, So i dont think it necessarily speaks to a players true worth alot of times.
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Dnt think he has to work them over
Bill loves spags if spags wants it they will go after him, I think the browns will jump in as well because Tom heckert from the Eagles front office is now there and Holmgren likes Mcnabb as well.
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That's a good point...
Reid has always tried to be Holmgren, Jr. So, why not have Holmgren steal Reid’s aging toy.
But seriously, folks ...
all this McNabb smoke and mirrors from Reid is comical. First, he’s keeping all three, and “McNabb is my QB” (remind anyone of Slick Willie parsing what the meaning of the word “is” is ?). Now, he’s “being ‘entertained’ by offers” (not ‘entertaining’ offers).
I guess he feels he has to walk on egg shells when professing less than unconditional man-love for McNabb, since the latter is like an emotional 12-year old girl.
The reality is, he doesn’t like any of his current QB choices:
1. McNabb is on the decline, and only signed through 2010 – they don’t want to extend him.
2. Kolb has certainly not proven he can do the job in real NFL action (and until he does, they don’t want to extend him) – a lot of QB’s look good in practice in that red jersey.
3. Vick – child, please …
Also, I think his “being entertained by offers” sounds about as fabricated as Drew Rosenhaus saying that “multiple teams are interested in T.O.”.
I believe that's all part of the backup plan
You can’t extend Kolb before McNabb as you risk upsetting your Starting QB. If you end up not moving McNabb you have a problem. You also don’t extend players you might trade because a new contract may be the equivalent of a poison pill. The new team will want to negotiate that probably even before they make the trade as to not give up a higher round pick for one year of service. There are several teams out there who would like to move players that they have signed for big money which either keeps them from releasing or trying to unload them.
They will extend whoever they keep.
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The problem the Eagles currently have ...
is McNabb has quite a lot of leverage for just the reasons you cite (and I think he is the one they want to move, not Kolb – and nobody wants Vick, except as a cheap Wildcat).
McNabb is only signed through 2010, and nobody is going to give up even a # 2 unless they can extend him. And after 2010, the Eagles get nothing for him.
St. Louis, Oakland and Buffalo are the 3 destinations you hear about, and if Donovan doesn’t want to have a helmet permanently implanted in his chest, and throw away any chance at a ring ever, he just refuses to work on a deal.
McNabb can always dig his heels in, and say pay me for 2010, or cut me now, and then he strikes his own deal with who he wants (Minny if Farve doesn’t come back ?).
So … what pick Big Tubby can get for him is the least of his worries. Will DMcN play ball ?
I dont think the smoke and mirrors
are from Reid, I think upper management wants to move Mcnabb badly but Reid loves Mcnabb so i think its a tug of war, thats why the asking price has been lowered. Mcnabb has been very loyal to Reid so I think he is returning the favor but upper management isn’t loyal to anyone, anywhere in the NFL.
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Feagles is DONE IMO
They say this guy Bond has a very strong leg and can kick the deep spiral (right leg) or the short pooch kick (left leg). But if we somehow get Zoltan then both of those guys will be unemployed.
Just gimme some playmakers
good news
This is good news as far as I’m concerned as well. Osi belongs in New York and I am glad he is staying. Watch him have a bounce back season this year.
GO NY GIANTS!!
Re: Jy Bond
CJ,
You said…“Also, it’s worth reading that article for the blurb about newly signed Australian punter Jy Bond, who apparently can punt with both legs.”
If he can do that he must have a pretty big third leg for balance…..Ha ha
by giant fan since 57 on Mar 24, 2010 5:39 PM EDT reply actions
I'm interested to hear
what some of you think we could realistically get for Osi in a trade. I wouldn’t accept anything lower than a first rounder, and that’s likely more than any team is willing to pay, but that’s what I feel his value is to our team IMO. I just don’t see the Giants getting an offer they like from anyone, and it’s not like Osi has been whining for months now. People are blowing this Osi thing out of proportion – he’s always been an emotional guy who says things in the heat of the moment and then cools off later on and it all blows over. Remember when he wanted a contract extension after the ‘07 season, and was rumored to be willing to go the Plax route to get it (sit out offseason activities)? That didn’t last long, and I don’t expect it’s much different this time around either. Maybe I’m naive, but I strongly believe that this is where Osi wants to be more than anywhere, and the team obviously wants him. When you have that mutual desire, things always work out for you.
"The good teams don't come in and say 'could have'. They get it done. Alright? It's that simple."
Yeah
He loves it here, he desires to be loved like strahan (not gonna happen) (no subway’s commercials for u buddy), realistically I think we can get a 2nd and a 5th from a desperate team but even thats not likely. His value outside of the Giants right now is probably 3rd and a 5th to be honest. 1st round picks dont just go for anybody, especially non QB’s. I say keep him until the contract expires and re up kiwi. With all that said you never know.
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no doubt
If I had the choice to live 1 step away from Manhattan or in some dump like Tennessee I wouldn’t think about it twice.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 24, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
When you play poker...
Do you ever believe another player when they tell you what they had?
If you do, you believe Jerry and also in the tooth fairy.
Any good GM is a poker player, and this is what he is supposed to say to get the most for Osi. Deal him for what we can get.
(I had big slick, by the way)
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