New York Giants notes: Rams keep collecting ex-Giants

by Ed Valentine on Mar 23, 2010 6:00 AM EDT in New York Giants News

In case you missed it, the St. Louis Rams continued Monday to collect former New York Giants.

Cornerback Kevin Dockery and tight end Darcy Johnson both signed with the Rams. Add them to Steve Spagnuolo's ex-Giants collection that also includes Fred Robbins and James Butler.

Good luck with all those spare parts, Spags. Turf Show Times is happy to welcome them to St. Louis. Truth is, the Giants really won't miss any of the guys who have moved on to St. Louis.

Speaking of ex-Giants, it seems William Joseph and the Oakland Raiders just can't let go of each other. WillyJo is a flop, but he is still hanging on to his career. And the Raiders keep hanging on to him. Gotta love Al Davis. He's a stubborn old man who apparently enjoys making the same mistakes over and over.

The Giants won't get any compensatory picks in the upcoming draft. Philadelphia picked up a pair of seventh-rounders. Cincinnati ended up with a third- and fourth-rounder, and New England received four picks, a sixth-rounder and three in the seventh round. Read the release from the NFL for details on the compensatory pick formula.

Commissioner Roger Goodell is saying the coin-flip tirade by Jets owner Woody Johnson won't impact New York's bid for a Super Bowl. Let's hope he means it.

"I don't think it will have any effect at all," said Goodell on Monday. "I have to make decisions repeatedly. I think we came up with a great solution. It's a win-win and we have moved on."

Goodell also said Monday that he supports changing the overtime rule for the playoffs.

Mark Ingram Sr. has been sentenced to an additional 27 months in federal prison after jumping bail in an attempt to watch his son, Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram Jr., play football.

The NFL will move umpires out from behind the linebackers and put them in the backfield next season. The league says umpires were hit by players more than 100 times in 2009. That's astounding, and I wonder why they didn't get these old fellas out of harm's way a looooong time ago.

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Too bad the Rams are getting the Giants scrubs

so they still stink. Of course, if they get the wrong QB (Bradford) they’ll be the LA Rams and Spags can come back!

DWTDD

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 23, 2010 7:30 AM EDT reply actions

Johnson's tirade shouldn't impact the decision concerning NY as a SB site;

The Giants’ experiences in the ‘61 and ’62 NFL championship games vs. GB should. There’s a good reason for SBs to be played in warm weather/domed sites, especially today when passing has become so much more important for all teams. Much as I’d like to see a Super Bowl played in the Giants/Jets new stadium, I can’t in good faith support the idea. (Not that my support one way or the other means a damn thing.)

by blue gonz on Mar 23, 2010 8:08 AM EDT reply actions

at least half of superbowls should be played in the snow

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Mar 23, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Snow, okay,

frozen field, okay.
cyclones, thumbs down.

by blue gonz on Mar 23, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Agree with you Gonz

I dislike weather and referees being the determining factor in any game, but most especially the super bowl.

by Jolly on Mar 23, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions

Superbowl should be in warm weather or a Dome

not for the players sake or the NFL but for the damn fans who spend there hard earned money, who wants to spend a couple G’s to sit in the snow and have their kids freeze their asses off, The Giants shouldve thought about a SB bid before they opted not to put a dome on the damn building for the sake of tradition. Crazy asses……….at least Jerry Jones thought about all the possibilities for his stadium before he put i t up.

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 23, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions

couldn't disagree more

weather doesn’t determine a game. How well players play in adverse conditions does. I LOVE going to games in the freezing cold. It’s the way it should be. Incidentally, the whole lame spectacle of the superbowl crowd is weak too. They should offer tickets to season ticket holders of the 2 teams and maybe only hang on to a few thousand for their stupid personal giveaways.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Mar 23, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions

maybe a snowy super bowl

will freeze out all the fake asses that usually attend this game. The real fans will love it, regardless of the weather.

by wilddre22 on Mar 23, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions

They SHOULD do that

but they will lose sooooooo much money

by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 23, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Hockey

is the game for this type weather. If my receiver steps on a chunk of ice and slides down as a game-winning TD pass sails over his head……..I’m blaming the damn weather…….not the player’s inability as an ice skater.

by Jolly on Mar 23, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Adverse weather conditions is what football is all about

Football is like a violent game of chess. You play not only against your opponent, but against Mother Nature herself. That being said, I completely understand why people want the SB played on the most level playing field possible.

by YankeeDudeL on Mar 26, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

PS

Let’s hope Spags keeps on importing from the Giants by giving draft choices in exchange for some of our surplus talent. C’mon, Spags, can’t you tap into the as yet unexploited talent of a Sinorice Moss, say, or…(take your pick.)

by blue gonz on Mar 23, 2010 8:14 AM EDT reply actions

Balls solidly frozen like a block of ice,

not okay

by blue gonz on Mar 23, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah

Spags, take s few more,….Moss, C.C. Brown, Rocky & Bullwinkle, and if you wait a few mos.,
I am sure we can add a couple more to the list for you.

by Great Gatsby on Mar 23, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions

My Take is Different

These might be what you guys term as scrubs but did you see what the Rams had to work with the last few years?? Fred Robbins and Kevin Dockery are excellent pick ups for a team that is lacking talent all over, these are guys that spags won with and guys who he got the most out of, Spags had a bare cabinet when he got there, he is just trying to add winners and competitors and he is doing a good job. One man’s garbabge is another mans gold……. Love Spags for ever wish he would of stayed in monte kiffin mode (DC for yeeeears) and then he couldve taken over for TC but TC seems as if he will be our coach for a looong time.

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 23, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions

Your take might be different from FB's, but not

necessarily mine. The ex-Giants he’s picking up might be batter talent than what he can get elsewhere. Damned if I know. I’m not familiar enough with the Rams roster to say. I would like to get something in return for guys who look sure not to make the final cut this year. Spags looks like the guy most likely to be interested in at least some of them.

by blue gonz on Mar 23, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions

good moves, i agree

The giants have had talent as backups for a fews seasons now…. and spags knows this from first hand experiance.

He also had kdock playing at a high level when he was here.

Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do

by semsemma on Mar 23, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Moving Umpire's

Damn, does this mean I don’t get to see Ed Hochili forearm shiver any more punk ass linebackers?

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 23, 2010 9:19 AM EDT reply actions

Umpire

Get ready to see the amount of holding penalty calls to go way up when they move the umpire.

by John W on Mar 23, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions

You're saying that they're going to call more from the backside of the O-Line?

I’d say the exact opposite.

Bleeding Blue since 1962

by sunlion333 on Mar 23, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Yea

that might lower the holding calls actually

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 23, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions

i was about to say the same

not being able to see the hands and where they are placed on the defender may reduce holding calls

Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do

by semsemma on Mar 23, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Now the Ump

can justify not calling helmet to helmet on every damn Kevin Boss reception. now they have an excuse because it sure seemed like some insider corruption when i watched the games, KB almost got his head taken off a couple times but if we dare touch someone the flag is coming from about a mile away.

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 23, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions

William Joseph

This is one guy who I really thought would have a great NFL career. One of the most disappointing draft picks during my lifetime as a Giants fan.

GO NY GIANTS!!

by RobDomaine on Mar 23, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions

Well...

Willie does have competition as biggest first round busts for the G-Men. Here are two who come to mind quickly, Derek Brown & Ron Dayne (don’t hink I have EVER seen a 250+ lb. running back go down so easily).

by Great Gatsby on Mar 23, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions