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Blue Gates Mock Pt.2 (rounds 5-7)

Here are the last 3 picks along with audibles from my 2010 mock draft, these players compliment eachother when you look at my draft in it's entirety. In the end i would've hoped to aquire some great talent while improving team speed and depth where i could. Again your input whether good or bad is greatly appreciated.

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 With the 143rd pick in the 2010 NFL Draft The Giants select:      KENNY ALFRED (C) WASHINGTON STATE

Kenny Alfred is an impressive athlete who fires off the ball quickly and does a great job reaching targets away from his frame, Alfred possesses coordinated footwork and looks comfortable extending his arms into blocks and getting his feet around opposing linemen. He has great balance and footwork in the pass game and consistently keeps his head on a swivel. He does a nice job cleanly redirecting and working in tandem with his guards but can be slow to recognize stunts and blitzes inside. He moves his hands and feet in sync but he consistently allows himself to get jolted in a sense at the point of attack and needs to do a better job keeping his base down in pass protection. Alfred does a nice job gathering himself after the initial surge and regaining leverage inside. He snaps and steps quickly in the run game and consistently does a good job sealing defenders away from the ball. Alfred has to work on becoming more physical at the point of attack but possesses the athletic ability to chip at the line and reach targets the second level. He looks natural when asked get downfield, but he will occasionally overextend into blocks and get slipped on contact. Overall, he's a good athlete who does pretty well in the run game. He needs to learn to play with a more consistent base in pass protection, but he possesses the "skill set" (Reese's favorite 2 words) to eventually mature into a starting lineman at the next level. Should learn alot from O'Hara and be ready to take over when needs be, also plays guard.    AUDIBLE: ERIC OLSEN (G/C) NOTRE DAME

 

 With the 174th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft The Giants select:            DEJI KARIM (RB) SOUTHERN ILLINOIS

 

Deji Karim is the reason i didnt reach for any running back in the draft, this kid is a special talent and a consistent homerun hitter, I am confident that once this kid is brought in, it won't be long until he takes that 3rd RB spot from Ware, Brown and Johnson. At his pro day He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.37 seconds, which would have tied him for second among tailbacks at the Scouting Combine.His vertical leap of 43 inches would have been first among all tailbacks, his broad jump of ten feet, three inches would have placed third, his 20-yard shuttle time of 4.05 seconds would have topped all tailbacks, his 6.67-second mark in the three-cone drill also would have been first, and his 19 reps in the 225-pound bench press would have been sixth among all tailbacks. So, basically, if Karim would have been present at the Underwear Olympics, he would have won several medals. The 5'11 210 lb sleeper back came in 3rd place for the Walter Payton award and posted 2,080 yrds (6.6 ypg) and 26 TD's in just two years. Need I say more. By the way, I would move up for him if it looks like he will not make it to this point.       AUDIBLE: RAFAEL PREIST (CB) TCU

With the 205th Pick in the 2010 NFL Draft The Giants select:              STEVENSON SYLVESTER (OLB) UTAH

An explosive athlete who displays the footwork and initial burst to quickly close on the ball underneath and make plays in pursuit, Sylvester runs well for the position and does a nice job dissecting plays in front of him. He showcases good instincts, consistently is able to find the ball and generates good power on contact as a tackler. He consistently brings his legs through the play. He does a nice job breaking down in space and is an efficient open-field tackler. He isn't powerful at the point of attack and is at his worst when asked to take on blocks inside. He is easily washed away from the ball and struggles to stack and shed. But he plays with a passion and flies around the field. Sylvester displays some natural change-of-directions skills and suddenness when asked to rush the passer and closes quickly once he gains a step. He demonstrates impressive recognition and closing ability in the pass game and does a nice job getting his hands on the ball. He gets a deep drop in coverage and looks a bit stiff when asked to turn and run but can cover ground quickly. He looks like a guy who could certainly carve out a niche as a weak-side/run-and-hit linebacker at the next level. In other words he is in the mold of a Michael Boley and thats why I drafted him to be Boley's back up so we can cut wilkinson. 263 tackles, 24.5 TFL, 9 sacks & 2 Int's in 4 years.   AUDIBLE: ZOLTAN MESKO (P) MICHIGAN/ JEREMY BOONE (P) PENN STATE

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   I’d have Mesko as a pick rather than an alternate, and I’d be looking for a point to get him starting in the sixth, 30-year-old Australian rules punters notwithstanding. Karim is interesting, though later rounds are so difficult to guess where he’ll fit in and I have no problem getting a center in the later rounds, particularly if he can fill at guard, as the need is more future than immediate. My fondness for Zoltan is more stratigic than him as a player, though I like the combination of talents he has and the options he brings to the table. When it comes to a 6th or 7th rounder, you’re not generally going to get any immediate impact on your team. The Giants kickoffs were so horrible with Tynes last year, and Feagles may or may not still be on top of the directional punting enough to be effective, but he doesn’t have a leg for booming it when needed. Mesko could take Feagles place. Or he could cover both the weaknesses of Tynes and Feagles with one roster spot (i.e. more than a “designated kickoff specialist”, and the resulting improvement in yardage from last year’s opponent’s starting position to me is more of a net impact than you’d be likely to get from most other draft options that late, and it’s immediate. Personally, I’d hope Zoltan bumped Feagles from the roster and would hope Jeff could be signed to work with him on the directional bit. Tynes, despite raising everyone’s blood pressure isn’t an awful field goal kicker. At worse you get a punter with a leg and a “designated kickoff specialist” rolled into one. At best, eventually, you wrap your kicking game into one roster position.

by Cranky50 on Mar 20, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Im fine with that

Zoltan would solve alot of our kicking games issues. He is an unusual talent and Feagles is not getting any younger. taking care of that void at this point in the draft should be in the plans. He might make it to F/A though thats why he was an audible and i just rather use draft pics on on the other guys who could potentially make an impact in a larger area of need (now & future).

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 20, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Mesko will be drafted (hopefully by us)....

but if he isn’t I’d be DELIGHTED to get to get to use an additional pick, and I’d have someone talking to him before the lights got turned off in the war room on the last day of the draft. My guess though is he’s gone in the sixth.

by Cranky50 on Mar 20, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love, love, love the Deji Karim pick but I don't think he'll last 'til the 6th.

Swap your 5th and 6th and you have Karim and Kevin Matthews at OC/OG.

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by sunlion333 on Mar 20, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea me neither

Thats why i made sure i said i would move up if necessary and that swap would work because Deji is moving up a little, but we have to get him, he compliments the others well and would fill a void in the backfield passing game even though he didnt do it alotI. Im sure he can though, it was just no need to. Brandon Jacobs would love someone from his old stomping grounds and Reese probably is eyeing this kid right now.

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 20, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just Sayin

Zoltan is a cool ass name, and i would love to have him on the giants roster too

by #56 4life on Mar 20, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Olsen vs. Alfred

Can I ask the logic of Alfred as the pick and Olsen as the audible. I would have Olsen as the better prospect for us, and most places project him as a 4-5 pick. Alfred projects late to potentially undrafted.

Deji Karim appears to be an impressive athlete. If he can turn that athletic ability into football ability he could be a good player. The question I have is does he fill in what we as the Giants need? As I see it our biggest need out of a runningback is a 3rd down back that can pickup the blitz and provide Eli some solid blocking. From what I understand the biggest question mark with his game is his blocking ability, so I think we would still be looking for an answer for 3rd down back. However, if the kid can play special teams well he could bump Ware or Johnson likely as neither of those guys are an answer for 3rd downs either.

by bigblue777 on Mar 20, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

My logic!

Olsen is raw and his skills are not as polished as Alfred, they can rank them how they want both are good but i think Alfred is more pro ready and plays the center position better. Olsen is a little more explosive but he loses his way in space on the second level, he does not look comfortable.

Deji is a perfect 3rd dwn back, our biggest need out of running back is just someone who can get it done, 3rd dwn requires the ability to catch the ball and be explosive with the ball as well and Karim can do this plus he is a bonus, im still hoping to be healthy at the position. As for the blocking thing, thats the knock on almost every rookie runnning back, to be honest guys like Adrian Peterson who are considered the best RB’s are still not particularly good at pass blocking still, pass protection is going to have to be something he needs to work on but it doesnt warrant him not being drafted by us!!, he’s one of those teach it and he will learn it type of guys. He fits us perflectly IMO.

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 20, 2010 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

But

I do like both Alfred and Olsen and wouldnt mind either to be honest………….Olsen has more of a mean streak and maybe upside in the long run as well, maybe thats what we need so im good with which ever one.

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 20, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

My thought

Either you look for a more polished player earlier like Matt Tennant or if you get down here you are probably looking more based on potential. That’s why I would have Olsen higher than Alfred.

by bigblue777 on Mar 20, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that Peterson can’t block is why he didn’t play third downs. Taylor did. Catching the ball is secondary for a 3rd down back. The most important thing for a 3rd down back is the ability to recognize the blitz and block effectively. You may run a screen or a draw every now and again to try to get a trick 3rd down conversion, but you are more likely looking to get the ball to a WR or TE to actually pick up the 1st. Dumping the ball to the back on 3rd is more often you don’t actually think you will pickup the first and just want to advance some yards and a 1st would be sugar on top.

by bigblue777 on Mar 20, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree!!!

you said the knock on karim is his pass blocking, i used peterson as an eample to show u that, that is the knock on most backs rookie or established, im just saying he will work on it and get it right but if your looking for a back especially in the later rounds that is already perfect at pass blocking then you might need a magic lamp and three wishes lol.

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 20, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

That's why I went for Gerhart in the 2nd :)

Honeslty, I don’t expect a late round back that can play 3rd down. If you want a 3rd down back you have to draft him high or go get a vet. Like I said above I can still see the possibility of the kid finding a spot on the team, it’s just not the spot I’m personally most worried about. If we grabbed this kid I’d be looking at him as Ware’s replacement. That 3rd or 4th string back who may see a little game time for some spice, but whose primary contribution is likely special teams (at least for now).

by bigblue777 on Mar 20, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats exactly what he is

a special teams/ 3rd string back who will probably get what ever carries are left over but the beauty of it is thats all he needs, he will give you plenty yards on limited carries trust me and he can do the return work……. he is exactly what i think is missing from our backfield. Instant explosion, the type that a D coordinator has to gameplan for even though he doesnt get many touches sorta like Reggie Bush. I also disagree with the 3rd down back thing, I think those are the late round guys on alot of teams, they just have to learn the blocking schemes like everyone else even a vet. This kid will do what you ask him to and he will do it well. I think Gerhart is good but he gives us what Jacobs gives us and i dont know if we need them both…….RB of any sort is not a first 3rd or 4th round type of need to me this year, so i tried to get ecellent value later on.

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 20, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wiley vet syndrom

A lot of 3rd down backs are wiley vets because they’ve been around long enough to have really learned the finer points of the game. They were probably low draft picks because the high draft picks got on the field more early and weren’t expected to have to leanr to block to earn game time. A back that can come in and be 3 down player is a rare find worth considering.

Karim’s workout #s do look good. I’ll have to see if I can find any good video of him playing. If you want to talk workout #s did you see Alfonso Smith’s pro day #s?

by bigblue777 on Mar 20, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I gotta check em out! what were they??

And the workout #‘s for karim are excellent but im not a big fan of the underwear olympics, they do not really sway my decisions too much any way. Karim dominated his level of competition and when in a lower level of comp., thats what the Giants look for, off the chart production, thats what got Kevin Boss and Ramses Barden drafted and thats what will get Karim drafted by us if he’s still around and we choose to address RB in the later rounds.

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by Blue Gates on Mar 21, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

IMO the Giants needed RB help on all downs last year not just 3rd

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by Blue Gates on Mar 20, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Great pic of STEVENSON SYLVESTER (OLB) UTAH

makes me wanna yell BOOOM!

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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 22, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes he's a hitter for sure

and a sleeper pick especially in a defense like ours

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by Blue Gates on Mar 22, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

also...

how does DEJI KARIM (RB) SOUTHERN ILLINOIS fall to the 6th round with those kinds of measurables and accolades? are you just hoping and praying hes a 6th round guy or is that legit?

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by Plaxico Burress on Mar 22, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

He will fall to at least the 5th because

of how these so called “experts” rank people, his school and competition level will keep him out of the first 3 rounds but someone like the Giants should jump on him in the 4th just to be safe, but 5th/ 6th is where he was originally projected but since the combine he has moved up some……………keep in mind he wasnt even invited to the combine, this kid could be the next chris johnson, he has the same running style. If it were up to me i would “reach” for him.

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 22, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry i meant his pro day

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by Blue Gates on Mar 22, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

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