BBV Community Mock Draft: With 12th pick, Dolphins select ...
by Ed Valentine on Mar 20, 2010 7:00 AM EDT
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Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, Texas Christian University.
Playing the role of Bill Parcells for Miami is 'Sunlion333.' He writes:
I know I'm going to get as many groans as when the Giants picked Phil Simms from Morehead St, but let me explain: OK, we know that Jeff Ireland is not the final say on personnel in Miami, so we get a familiar mind to emulate in our beloved "Tuna".
The Dolphins needs, in order of importance are as follows:
Rush Linebacker:
Nose Tackle:
A 3-4 defense simply does not work without a "Power Pig" in the middle. Jason Ferguson is coming off an injury and is getting a little long in the tooth. He is also suspended for the first 8 games of the year. Solai played ok in his absence, but is far from a replacement.
#1 Receiver:
Similar to what was thought about the Giants before last year, the Phins have a roster loaded with No. 2 type pass catchers and no deep threat.
Free Safety:
They just cut Gibril Wilson, weren't that solid with him in the lineup, and Chris Clemons is still developing.Tuna's Tendencies:
We have a large body of work to draw some conclusions from.#1. Parcells does not draft receivers in the first round, Ever.
Some may try to point to Keyshawn Johnson or Ted Ginn Jr., but they were drafted the year before Bill took over the reigns with the Jets & Dolphins, respectively.
#2. Tuna likes his linebackers.
Parcells has taken a linebacker in the first round a whopping six times. He also doesn't care what value others have on a player and does his own evaluation of linebackers. You could say that he has a knack for the position and I doubt I'll get much argument disputing that fact.
#3 Big Bill likes to develop defensive linemen.
He prides himself at finding players that show him something raw that he can turn into "his type" of player. For example he once found a 3 technique with the frame to add bulk and enough talent to develop into a NT in the sixth round. That player's name was Jason Ferguson, who has played for Parcells ever since.
#4 He doesn't care much for playing rookies and he doesn't take project players in the early rounds.
You had better have shown some success and experience or forget being drafted by this man. He develops "men" who are ready to take it to the next level, not ex-basketball players or walk-on seniors.
What's available at #12?:
NT: T. Cody, Cam Thomas, Linval Joseph.
By all accounts none of these players are Round 1 material unless you think that Parcells is going to change his MO and burn a high pick on a position he would normally want to develop from a lower round prospect. See No. 3.
I've read that the Dolphins staff has spent an unusual amount of time with Jeff Owens. I say unusual because he is a later round prospect and it's uncommon
to find this kind of activity early on. My bet is that Owens impressive strength caught the Tuna's eye and he sees something similar to Ferguson here.
#1 WR: Dez Bryant, Golden Tate, Arrelious Benn.
Bryant is the only pick worthy of the spot, but its a moot point. It's just not going to happen in the first round. See No. 1.
FS: Earl Thomas, Nate Allen, Morgan Burnett.
With Clemons already developing, my bet is that the position does not warrant the high pick.
Rush Linebacker: Jason Pierre-Paul, Sergio Kindle, Jerry Hughes ... Tweeners: Brandon Graham,
Pierre-Paul will get an immediate no from Parcells as he couldn't be sure that he will develop as he has only seven games in football at the collegiate level.
Kindle is the purported top prospect at the position, but I see holes in his game when I put on the tape of my eventual pick.
Brandon Graham is just remarkable and would love to pick him, but he may never be able to drop into coverage and I want a three down backer, so ...
Jerry Hughes DE/OLB Texas Christian University.
This kid plays with a relentless motor and is always the hardest working player on the field. Fast, reliable tackler, who would be a top 4-3 DE pick if he was bigger.
He is everything you would expect from a "Parcells Guy" and will immediately improve the Dolphins' pass rush.
I would have liked to trade down to get this pick, but it's not allowed in this mock and this player is much higher on my board than any other player at the position.
Also, Parcells goes with "position value" instead of simply BPA. He also solves a position that may yet need another body thrown at it with the uncertainty of Jason
Taylor returning at an acceptable performance level. I could have taken McClain here, but, with Dansby signing and Channing Crowder still there it didn't make sense.
'NYG_Slater' ended that possibility anyway. Before you all start rhyming on it, Weatherspoon is not a rush linebacker.
My take: 'Sunlion' used an awful lot of words here to try and defend a pick that is, basically, indefensible. It took 12 picks, but this is our first head-scratching 'what in the world could you possibly have been thinking' selection.
There are soooo many defensive ends/linebackers and combo players rated ahead of Hughes, I can't imagine that this would be Parcells' selection in the first round -- especially the top half of the first round. Even if you buy the argument that Parcells won't take a receiver No. 1 there are several DE/OLB types who should come off the board before anyone thinks about Hughes. That includes all the guys 'Sunlion' mentioned. Throw Sean Weatherspoon and Derrick Morgan in the mix, too.
Sorry, 'Sunlion,' I can't go with you on this one.
Remember, for explanations of previous picks, click the highlighted player name in the table below.
'RipShea' is now on the clock with San Francisco's pick at 13.
| POS | TEAM | PLAYER | POS | SCHOOL | DRAFTER |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | St. Louis | Sam Bradford | QB | Oklahoma | Soldier_ |
| 2 | Detroit | Ndamukong Suh | DT | Nebraska | soulpower |
| 3 | Tampa Bay | Gerald McCoy | DT | Oklahoma | i_formation27 |
| 4 | Washington | Russell Okung | OT | Oklahoma State | G Fan in England |
| 5 | Kansas City | Eric Berry | S | Tennessee | ronjohnson |
| 6 | Seattle | Jimmy Clausen | QB | Notre Dame | CCE718 |
| 7 | Cleveland | Dez Bryant | WR | Oklahoma State | GreatGatsby |
| 8 | Oakland | Bruce Campbell | OT | Maryland | Hoyadestroya85 |
| 9 | Buffalo | Dan Williams | DT | Tennessee | The Greek |
| 10 | Jacksonville | Joe Haden | CB | Florida | jp2y |
| 11 | Denver | Rolando McClain | ILB | Alabama | NYG_Slater |
| 12 | Miami | Jerry Hughes | DE/OLB | Texas Christian | sunlion333 |
| 13 | San Francisco | RIPShea | |||
| 14 | Seattle | CCE718 | |||
| 15 | N.Y. Giants | Ed Valentine | |||
| 16 | Tennessee | Jason?? | |||
| 17 | San Francisco | RIPShea | |||
| 18 | Pittsburgh | ross_stephen | |||
| 19 | Atlanta | daddyzander | |||
| 20 | Houston | BitterEli | |||
| 21 | Cincinnati | Woogie526 | |||
| 22 | New England | Ryan Valentine | |||
| 23 | Green Bay | Dan Luibil | |||
| 24 | Philadelphia | Bye Dawk | |||
| 25 | Baltimore | Larry Soprano | |||
| 26 | Arizona | Snipah | |||
| 27 | Dallas | pataroons | |||
| 28 | San Diego | hakeemthedream | |||
| 29 | N.Y. Jets | Brooklyn58 | |||
| 30 | Minnesota | hurikaine | |||
| 31 | Indianapolis | Charles L. | |||
| 32 | New Orleans | GiantsReignSupreme |
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Wow...
What happened to one or two paragraghs? I think it’s a reach, Earl Thomas is a top ten pick in my opinion, and good value at #12.
Well ...
I think ‘sunlion’ was feeling very defensive because he knows the pick will get panned. Hughes is really a second-round guy … maybe late first. But not this early. Too many other players with better grades.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 20, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Very convincing argumentation,
but I just can’t swallow it. Were I caught red-handed in some criminal activity, I’d want you on my defense team.
hm....
I don’t hate the pick, it’s just that i see jerry hughes as a 1 trick pony—somewhat of a “project”. He’s an unbelievable pass rushed, but he needs to learn how to play the run better, drop back into coverage, and shed blockers. With all those weaknesses, he shouldnt go that high.
WIth that said, your analysis and review of the dolphins and parcells was spot on. I’d love to post this over on the phins blog and see what they have to say.
I kinda like it
because the fins do need pass rusher real bad. It is a bit of a reach but it can happen. Especially with the way the draft went – no Dan Williams, no McClain and no Haden for them. I think Earl Thomas might’ve been a slightly better pick though, because potentially he can be a better player but I think Hughes will be the best 3-4 OLB in this draft. JPP is so raw that you won’t get much from him for a while, Graham hasn’t looked as good in coverage drills and besides Hughes had more sacks than him last year.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 20, 2010 8:53 AM EDT reply actions
It just seems
so early for the guy. Maybe ‘Sunlion’ ends up being right, but he has put himself way out there on a limb.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 20, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Ed, If I were more worried about consensus than building a team.......
You get my drift. And the piece I wrote was not in defense of the pick, it was the rationale.
I had to decide whether or not to let the lack of the ability to trade effect my pick or not. I chose not to.
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I hear you
You made a great case for the pick. I disagree with it, but so what? I’m still cranky about missing out on McClain.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 20, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I expected a bunch to disagree with me.
I really believe that the Giants are going to make a run at McClain, though. There are going to be alot of people surprised by what JR does to get him if he doesn’t fall to us at #15, including me. It may be the single most atypical thing you see Reese do in his career as the Giants GM.
Feel a little better now?
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No sale
Too high for Hughes. As you say yourself, the 3-4 doesn’t work without a nose tackle. Since you can’t trade down in this draft and Dan Williams is gone, I think Cody. Let Parcells and Sporano terrorize him into keeping his weight down.
Mickey C
I have Cody lower than Cam Thomas and mid 2nd Rd. I had Hughes at #21 on my board
And I’m saying it now. Parcells will draft Jeff Owens and turn him into another Jason Ferguson.
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Well that's a novel and a half
The position seems like the most likely one. They need those LB’s to stock up on.
Could use a NT as well, but they’d be reaching by 32 picks for the ones available.
I still have Kindle above Hughes.
Master of the squeegee
I have Hughes above Kindle at both DE and Rush LB
I have JPP above both at DE, but far from the top. Kindle could be a liability in coverage. I just see something in this kid that reminds me of someone near and dear to our Giants’ hearts.
Check out what you can watch of him and tell me if you see it, too.
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I've seen plenty of him and I'm impressed
I’m more impressed with Kindle.
Hughes lined up more as a DE with his hand in the ground, while Kindle seemed to excel more as a LB then as a DE.
That’s my concern with Hughes. He seems like a tweener and athletic enough to be a Rush OLB, but can he drop into coverage, as he’s not really all that experienced with it..at least not to the extent that Kindle was.
If the Giants needed a rush OLB, I’d be going either with Kindle or Brandon Graham. Graham seems a lot like Derrick Morgan, more of a 4-3 DE or at least I’d be more comfortable with him there.
Kindle’s experience as an actual LB sets him apart.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 20, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I saw the opposite on tape
If you watch the game film and not the highlight reels you see Hughes dropping into coverage on around 15-20% of the plays. He plays in the 3 and the 2 point stance. I also see him sticking with receivers, which almost floored me.
I’m serious, go back and look again and watch how he arrives at the QB and tell me it doesn’t give you a little glimpse into our illustrious past. I got chills.
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JPP seems like a "surprise pick" and one I thought was gonna be the one
He’s highly boom or bust and who knows what he could do.
But he seems a lot like Demarcus Ware coming out of college. JPP dominated JUCO…which may be a step below Troy State comp…it may not.
I guess if you got him higher on your board, doesn’t really matter…that’s your boy so you take him.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 20, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Parcells isn't a big risk taker and JPP would not appeal to him
The term “Football Player” comes into use here. I doubt Parcells sees JPP as that yet and won’t chance it.
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He DID take Ware...who was a risk, so I doubt that.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 20, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
How was Ware a risk? Sun Belt Conference Defensive player of the year?
6-4 247 4.61 40. 28 sacks in college. I don’t see him as being a risk, especially when the conversation includes a player with a total of 7 collegiate games under his belt.
Please clarify.
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He was a DE, not a rush OLB. He may have been productive, but was a lot like Osi, a bit raw.
and well..the Sun Belt isn’t exactly a big time conference. Yes, anyone seems to be able to make in nowadays….but if you don’t think that’s a risk, clarify that.
Ware was a dominant player, JPP is not (but was in JUCO).
Ware despite his production was a boom or bust type, but of course is a BOOM.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 20, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I see your point.but
it’s a relatively low risk compared to JPP.
Ware was a baller with experience in the game. He was consistently productive and rated rather highly.
LT was a DE before switching in college. This is why I like the combine. If you have doubt’s about a players physical abilities you can assess them in a clinical fashion and compare his performance to others who play the position you want to draft him for. Let’s face it, these kids are prospects not experienced NFL players. You need the extra drill work to see if they can perform at a pro level and to see if they can transition to another position.
That’s why I have:
JPP as DE only and there are several DE prospects I have higher
Kindle as a SAM and I don’t believe he’s that good anyway
Hughes as a 3-4 Rush OLB and the top prospect I have at the position
Graham is my top 4-3 DE and I would have loved to take him, but I don’t see him making the transition to OLB. If I were Ed, I’d have a hard time passing on him in this mock, due to the position we’re left in.
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Given the way this draft has gone...
and depending upon who is taken at #14 (maybe Spiller, sorry Free), I think Ed is going to have to first look at Graham vs. Morgan, two very good prospects, and decide which he likes best AND THEN compare them to the other options out there. My guess before McClain seemed possible was that when it came to it, Morgan might well be the pic, but given the way this draft has gone, at least five out of Graham, Morgan, Price, Spiller, Tomas and Trent Williams will be on the board. Tough for Ed, great for the Giants.
Not many teams run a 3-4 in college
so almost all guys that turn into 3-4 OLB’s were DE’s in college.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 20, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if SunLion is right about Hughes ...
in the real world of the draft, you figure nobody else is as high on this guy as you are, and trade down once or twice before picking him late 1st round, or early 2nd round. Makes being wrong a lot less of a “career move” (not that Tuna would care about that at this stage).
I’m assuming that we can’t trade down among our “pickers” here, or I would urge Ed to trade down big time when he’s on the clock. I see lots of guys that we all liked, where at least one of them has to be available at # 25 or so, but only Earl Thomas seemed to really excite people at # 15 (and that was pre-Rolle).
You're correct in that I would normally trade down for Hughes
However, I also had him at #21 on my Big Board, so it wasn’t the reach everybody here thinks.
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Good Breakdown
Hughes is a good player and i actually think it is an alright pick, im all for drafting who you want where you want but i would not draft him here pesonally. If i had the Dolphins pick, I would definetly go with Brandon Graham who can shift to OLB no problem………He is a waaaaaay better pick at this point.
But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!
this pick is going to be sergio kindle
never in a million years is this guy going to get picked at 12
by GiantsReignSupreme on Mar 20, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
I get what everybody is saying.
If I were to go by what the so called “experts” say on this prospect and this pick, I would have not selected Hughes. If I was worried about what other people would say about this pick, I would have went somewhere else.
I went deep to put myself into the mind of a GM, in this case Bill Parcells, and treat this team as if it were mine. I’m trying to build a team here and I want particular players to fit specific roles.
Conventional thought would have had me picking Dan Williams or Dez Bryant, but they were both off the board and not what I believe the Tuna would do, considering his past picks and general philosophy. Besides, they would have been “safe” picks and just not my, or Parcells’, style.
I really struggled over not picking Brandon Graham, but I’ve watched enough tape to know he almost falls over himself in cover drills. He is strictly a 4-3 DE and my favorite in the draft, but not a 3-4 OLB. .His hips are so stiff, there is too much wasted motion in transistion and he’d constantly get burned. I saw the same problem with Kindle, but to a much lesser degree. Watching Hughes in drills he is extremely smooth for a player who has his hand in the dirt most of the time.
I also struggled with Weatherspoon still sitting there, but in no way is he a rush linebacker. He hasn’t played the position and it has very specific requirements, which I’m afraid Spoon doesn’t meet.
When I watched Hughes in the few games I could get tape of, he is doing everything. He rushes the passer with a relentless motor, he drops into coverage on WR’s, RB’s and TE’s and sticks with them and is in on alot of tackles in the run game. He is always flying to the ball. I’m not going to mention who he reminds me of(and I think Tuna will see it, too)so as not to really get lambasted here. Just watch how he arrives at the QB and you’ll see it, too.
This is why I had Hughes at the top of the board for pass rushing 3-4 OLBs. I also had him at 21 on my big board for the Dolphins. Without the ability to trade down, I couldn’t risk losing the player, so I took a flyer. To you guys this is a much bigger reach than on my board
When I make up my board, I have a point system for 1. Positional Value 2. Team Need Value and 3. Player Rating(a combination of game film, combine & pro day performance (position specific), and a consensus of ratings from other sources(I don’t have my own scout team). This is MY system and I’m sure every NFL team has their own as well. Suffice it to say that my Giants board looks completely different, almost alternate universe different.
So, playing Bill Parcells, I’m building my team to win, my way. I know a little about winning, so if you don’t like it, just think about how much you’re gonna hate losing to my team.
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i give you a lot of credit
for thinking outside of the box and not going with what the experts say, but theyre experts for a reason. your defense is solid and valid, and its hard to get inside the head of someone like parcells.i just have a hard time believing the dolphins will reach on a guy thats most likely going to go in the 2nd round. kindle is the top 3-4 OLB prospect in this draft, and if hes still on the board at 12 i would be shocked to see miami pass on him.
by GiantsReignSupreme on Mar 20, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree on Kindle and we'll see once they're playing.
Kindle is less effective in coverage, at least from what I’ve seen. Both are pretty much Tweeners, but I believe Hughes translates to OLB better in a 3-4 and Kindle as a SAM in a 4-3. Kindle has limited pass rush moves, gets swallowed up by the better offensive linemen, is inconsistent and has character issues. He doesn’t live up to his measurables.
Jason Pierre-Paul is considered higher picks at Rush OLB than either one and he was still on the board. He is just too raw and I don’t believe he will ever be good in coverage. He is too tall and looked like he was falling down while doing drills at the combine.
I also use the term “experts” to signify the lack of credibility of half of the talking heads that make claim to that distinction.
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Kindle only had 2.5 sacks this year
before the championship game. He is severely overrated. Before this year he wasn’t even going up against good tackles because they had Orakpo there.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 20, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't have made this pick...
which doesn’t make it a bad pick. If I’m looking at it from a Giants point of view, I can’t thank you enough for it, as I KNOW I’m going to be a lot happier at #15 than I was before it, and you’ve saved me a lot of time worrying about trading down, as I’m going to be happy with someone left at #15. But this is a researched pick, with an explanation, supporting documentation, and thought behind it. I admire the formula, though I’m not crazy about the answer. However, none of us, regardless of our thoughts is a general manager, none of us is being paid for this, and it’s frankly refreshing to get a pick outside the box, with a rational for it. I still think it’s a reach, and I wouldn’t have done it, but I’m not gonna bash somebody for doing it either. Who knows, it might be the pick and it might work.
For lack of the ability to trade down, I took a player I have rated higher than everyone else.
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Got it....
And it’s one of the artificial restraints of a draft like this where you don’t have all of the actual tools to work with (trading picks). Then again mocks don’t have to worry about how deep is the checkbook and some other variables. And if Ed opened it up for a free-for-all where everyone could do everything, things could get really strange, really quick.
Not gonna repeat what everyone else said, but yeah you get the idea..
I see them drafting someone like Kindle before this, but you’ve said over and over you wanna trade down and this isnt a terrible late first round pick.
Besides whos to say if McClain slips past the Broncos that the 12th pick isnt the one we trade to?
I don't need birthdays. I buy myself everything I need and because of my drinking its often a surprise
I have Hughes rated higher at the position and on my big board.
My rating, my pick. I seem to see something in Hughes that nobody else does. I hope y’all remember this pick when this kid is blowing it up on the field over the next couple of years.
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Ha, fair enough.
When he makes the Pro Bowl, I owe you a coke
I don't need birthdays. I buy myself everything I need and because of my drinking its often a surprise
I won't be shocked...
if Kindle slips farther down than a lot of pundants are predicting. I know I don’t want him to be the Giants pick.
You won't see him in a Giants or Dolphins uniform anytime soon.
That you can be sure of.
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Interesting pick.
I’ll be honest – and I’ve said it on my site a number of times. Other than Eric Berry, Jerry Hughes is my favorite player (at a position of need for the Dolphins, that is) in the draft. I love the kid and think he’s going to be really really good.
With that said, #12 is too high and I’m not sure Parcells will take a player who doesn’t really fit his size requirements (Hughes is under 6’2). And in this particular scenario, with JPP, Kindle, and Morgan still on the board, I think JPP or Kindle are more likely.
Do you really think Parcells would let a player with 7 games of collegiate ball
get picked in the 1st? LT was 6’3" 237lbs. Hughes is 6’ 1 5/8" 250. I don’t see it as a problem sizewise.
My take is JPP is a no go and better as a developmental DE and Kindle doesn’t grade out well to 3-4 OLB and has character issues. Both of them are not “Parcells Guys”, so I doubt he goes for them.
I appreciate your viewpoint, especially coming from the Dolphins side. I was stuck at 12, but would have traded down and gotten Hughes in the low 20’s and another pick if it were allowed. Instead I got the player who, I believe, will make the LB corps an insane group to try and handle.
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In reference to your 6' 1 5/8"
I am rather short, 5’ 5 1/2". Anyways while in bootcamp I got called half inch Hendy, because I was adament about that extra half inch being important.
In the 80's all players were much smaller
tackles back then were around 270 ish most of the time, so it was easier for LT to overpower them. If he had to go up against modern tackles in 2010 in his 1980’s form he would’ve been severely overpowered.
Hell, our NT – Jim Burt was 280 but now thats barely good enough for 3-4 DE
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 20, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction
280 is way too small for 3-4 DE these days. Some teams have 340+ lb guys there now. It’s just unfathomable how guys like Haloti Ngata and BJ Raji can break out that much quickness with that much mass.
280’s a big 4-3 DE now (unless you’re the Texans, in which case that’s undersized).
The guy playing a 3-4 DE are 290 lbs -300 lbs.
I think you’re thinking of NT because Raji and Ngata are both NTs. Ferguson is only 310 and still plays NT because of great leverage and physical strength. But to dominate the NT position you need to be about 350 and have great leverage and strength.
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I guess it depends on the team
Calais Campbell – one of the best 3-4 DE’s is 290. The guy across from him – Darnell Dockett is 285.
Some other teams like Dallas have bigger ends, Spears is 309 and Canty when he was with them was around 305.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 21, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Any player we pick at 12 will be a reach....
Many of the things you guys have pointed out about Parcells is true of his history and reputation. He probably won’t draft a “project” like Pierre-Paul. He probably won’t give first round money to a finesse position so that takes care of WR and S. We know he likes size so that removes any linebacker under 6’2" regardless of how fast his “motor” runs.
What we know for certain is that he likes guys that are “big and tall”. Actually, before we signed Incognito I thought we might have gone after an OG in the first 4 or 5 rounds.
What we also can agree on is that he probably won’t draft BPA without regard to position need. That leaves us with OLB and NT, in that order. For weeks and weeks and weeks I have been talking about Kindle and Cody. “I was country Cody……when country Cody wasn’t cooo-oool, yeah…..I was country Kindle…… when country Kindle wasn’t cool.” (ring a bell?? think Barbara Mandrell……ok, I’m a dork)
Seriously though, both of these guys are good at doing the one thing we need from their respective positions. Kindle can pressure the QB while setting the edge and Cody can collapse the line while taking on multiple blocks. The rest of their development can be worked out between them and Mike Nolan. Don’t be too quick to rule out the possibility of us still taking McClain…stranger things have happened and he definitely is a solid player…but I doubt it.
so there you have it, our FIRST ROUND PICK…..
and our SECOND ROUND PICK…….
Just one mans opinion...
"We will pick 2 corners within the first 4 rounds" - 2009
"We will have 4 new linebackesr via FA and the draft" - 2010
by MagicDolphin on Mar 21, 2010 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Awww... come on...
Hughes is one of the top guys on the board for my Colts pick. After my top 2 targets, who I have reasonable suspicion will be gone by the time I pick, Hughes was the guy.
I’ve never understood why his stock is so low. He has a better pass rushing repertoire than any of the other tweeners AND he has an unstoppable motor. The perfect guy for the Colts D, wouldn’t you say?
DAMN YOU SUNLION!! Making me do extra work now…
Of course, though this is probably a little too high for him, you convinced me that he’s perfect for the Dolphins. I adamantly voted YES in the poll. (Though he would’ve been more perfect for the Colts :P)
I see him rated in the 20's in alot of places, some he is rising in. I have him at 21.
Although I don’t base my ratings on the media analysts, they have a little influence. If I could, I would have traded down and gotten an extra 3rd.
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ET needs to phone Miami
Actually he’s going out there in a few months anyways
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For a non-Phin-fan I have to give you props for doing your homework! Good job!
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I love Hughes but he is more of a second rounder.
At least you didn’t give us Kindle, who is not physical enough to be a Parcells guy. JPP is a better guy dropping into coverage but as said above only played 7 games. Graham would make the the best sense though since BP loves the conference he comes from.
The only wisdom is the knowledge that you don't know.
And, as always, screw the JETS!!!!!!!! Here Comes Dr. Tran!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO0kRE5OTZI&feature=PlayList&p=A33989B65116A425&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL
I thought this was interesting and it actually linked to this page.
This was linked to from Pro Football Talk and I saw the reference to this page. I guess I’m not as crazy as everybody seems to think.
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