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Free Agency Preview: Safeties

Darren Sharper? Antrel Rolle? George Wilson? Anyone else not named C.C. Brown, who was apparently tendered today?

What safety would you like to see the New York Giants pursue in the free agent market. Those are the three names that come to mind, though the 34-year-old Sharper would be a very un-Giants like signing. GM Jerry Reese usually likes younger guys with upside, not older guys hanging on for an extra year or so.

We will see what happens. Here is a list of free-agent safeties. Follow the jump for a few more free-agent thoughts.

Star-divide

  1. Darren Sharper -- If the New Orleans Saints let the 34-year-old get away he might look nice in a Giants uniform for a season or two. The guy still has gas in the tank, he is a play maker, and he is a leader.
  2. Antrel Rolle -- A good player, but there will be stiff competition for Rolle. Including from the Arizona Cardinals, who would like to keep him.
  3. George Wilson -- Keep an eye on the Buffalo Bills tender for this restricted free agent. Wilson played very well filling in for the Bills last season, and could be attractive to the Giants if the price is right. Remember, defensive coordinator Perry Fewell was in Buffalo last season and knows Wilson well. Of course, the draft is also safety-rich, and GM Jerry Reese hates to surrender draft picks.

These, to me, would be the three most obvious free-agent targets. Who appeals to you?

There are also a host of other restricted free agent safeties likely to hit the market. As I have said, I don't believe Reese will easily surrender draft picks. Any RFAs besides Wilson worth pursuing, though?

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CC Brown tendered....

I know everyone hates him, but you have to remember he wasnt brought in to be a starter or for coverage, he is a run stopper that is good when you send him on a blitz, and when used right he is a decent player, he was a starter for the Texans, but he is good on the blitz, and that is why the Giants might keep him around

by NJDuke on Mar 2, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

He's basically a situational player - yes I agree

No situational defensive player is worth $1.226 Million, especially not Can’t-Cover-an-ant-with-a-blanket-Brown

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 2, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

good on special teams too...

Look Im not sticking up for the guy he was horrible as a starter, and if the Giants released him I would have no problem with it, but Im all Im saying is they are probably just keeping him as a situational blitzing saftey and special team guy, he did get a few tackles on specials teams

by NJDuke on Mar 2, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he can contribute

in some ways, I agree with you there. But hopefully they can cut him and then resign him for a couple hundred thousand – I don’t know if that’s even possible being that they tendered him already.

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 2, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

also...

I have a hunch that Fewell might like him or see something in him, because after last season you have to think that the Giants were looking forward to letting him walking away, just to make the fans happy, and now with the new DC that is known to work with DBs, he is tendered, maybe Fewell likes a challenge and is gonna work with him

by NJDuke on Mar 2, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds fantastic..

..but its gotta be wishful thinking

I don't need birthdays. I buy myself everything I need and because of my drinking its often a surprise

by ItsaToomah on Mar 3, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

yes....BUT

the contract isn’t guaranteed…at all!

The tender offer was merely a cover-your-ass move by reese in case we cant land a safety in FA or the draft (both highly unlikely). you always plan for the worst case scenario and this tender offer cost nothing..it would have been dumb not to offer the lowest tender for cc brown……my guess is he’ll be cut before camp.

by NYG_Slater on Mar 2, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't matter what we think.

If we’re getting one of the three, it’ll be Wilson. On the bright side, when he gets burned, we’ll be able to yell “WILLLLLLLLLLLSONNNNN!”

I left my swagger in my other pants.

by HughG16 on Mar 2, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

I would not complain

about any of the 3. I would prefer Sharper and drafting a S.

Ed, was Freebradshaw banned?

by Giants56 on Mar 2, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

A couple of other potential FA Safeties

if there is no agreement with the CBA.

Nick Collins, Green Bay Packers (27) – Restricted FA (UFA-CBA)

Bernard Pollard, Houston Texans (25) – Restricted FA (UFA-CBA)

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/db.html

by Phillip P on Mar 2, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

RFAs

Giving up the picks is why I didn’t even mention them. I can see Wilson only because Fewell is familiar with him. The other guys, probably not.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 2, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

give me Rolle….

Regroup refocus..retool...

by Mr.Williams on Mar 2, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

+1

i second that thought. and have no basis for this statement other than the eyeball test throughout the past couple of seasons… dude can play

by Flynner on Mar 2, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I want Rolle

If we pick this guy up we might not have to even draft a safety until the way later rounds. young enough to be around for a while and good enough to make an immediate very positive impact (jeez I’m good enough to make an immediate impact as a gents safety)

GIT EM!

Please Mets.. over .500 this year? Please??

by Plaxico Burress on Mar 2, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

Rolle would be great

but not for what he’s gonna cost after a bidding war. I’d rather George Wilson than Sharper.

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 2, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

Sharper and draft Major Wright

and I’d take Wilson flat out if the numbers are right.

The Cardinals are probably going to pay Rolle too well to stay. Remember, he was due a $4M roster bonus and a base of $8M, which is the only reason Arizona is releasing him. Do we really thing that he is worth the $6M+ per year he’ll get with the guarantee I’m sure willl be part of it?

I’d be happier paying Sharper to groom up a rook and add veteran experience to a young secondary. I though that Sam Madison had a wonderful effect on our CB’s.

Wilson would be a very good grab, but don’t expect him to be more than solid. He’s not the playmaker Sharper is.

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by sunlion333 on Mar 2, 2010 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

speaking of major wright....

anychance we’ll be seeing a profile on this guy? IDK much about him.

by NYG_Slater on Mar 2, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

More safety analysis

Ed, can you please focus on some more safeties for us please. I guess you might wait until after tomorrow, since that is the combine day for DBs. Also, does anyone know where to get the results for individual players? I looked on nfl.com and, wow, their coverage of players is spotty and disappointing. Other sites do not seem to have a list of players and how they performed.

by CCE718 on Mar 2, 2010 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

A rookie safety...

Ed, also, can you do a piece on Larry Asante from Nebraska. Could be a good pick in 3rd round.

by CCE718 on Mar 2, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Rolle......

Myron rolle that is. Sign sharper he’ll be a great mentor, an draft rolle

by Dfence on Mar 2, 2010 3:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

The film I've seen on Rolle shows he's coverage challenged

and he looked pretty stiff in the drills at the combine. He also only ran a 4.69, so his recovery and closing speed could be an issue. It would appear that he projects to an “in-the-box” safety and may be a liability in coverage. He may be the most intelligent player in the draft, but I don’t know how that translates onto a football field.

Major Wright and Darrel Stuckey looked great and could be available around the same spot at Rolle.

There are alot of Safety depth in this draft and I’m expecting some UDFA’s to challenge for roster spots, including Sha’ reff Rashad who is still on our practice squad.

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by sunlion333 on Mar 2, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Safety positon is rich in this draft

If that is true draft a couple and hope they both pan out – and that TC may even be willing to play one as a rookie.

I am cautiously optimistic on KP coming back. So we need another starter unless Ross is being converted. MJ and Rousse are acceptable depth.

The practice squad guys have a shot as well.

by MSP Giant on Mar 2, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Rookie safety

Earl thomas showed his strength at the combine, it is our strongest position of need when you consider JR said he will approach things as if kenny is not coming back ( just to be smart about it). I think he is targeting thomas but me personally wouldnt go first rd safety………………Call me crazy and im sure some of you will….well maybe not since Big ED set us straight this morning, but i would move one of our talented CB’s to S, my choice would be instead of rolle or sharper i would move terrell thomas to safety with AR back and bruce johnson playing so well. my reasons are that thomas has the size strength and intellect to play S and we all know how the Gmen feel about getting all 11 of the best players on the field ( see kiwi’s career). and with corey and AR healthy thomas is too good just to be relegated to nickle and 3rd dwns. what do you guys think??? please dnt kill me!! lol

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 2, 2010 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

iono

terrel T was just in his soph year. i highly doubt they change his position (being that we DISPISE of rookies making mistakes) TT would practically be a rookie at playing S in the nfl..

Id like to have CB as a strong suit with ross playing the nickel(or whoever wins that battle this offseason)

We draft a safety as well as bring in one through FA. id draft a S outside of the first round tho( we could use the first pick on either LB if mcclain is there or DT if Mcclain isnt there.

by semsemma on Mar 2, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

TT at safety

Terrell had an outstanding season at corner last season. As ppl have mentioned (Free), he was our best corner last season. Maybe even the best defender on a horribly coached defense. I think TT will be and deserves to be the starting corner along with Webster, even if A. Ross is healthy. As much as I dislike the idea, Ross will probably get reps at safety in camp, which would make more sense than converting TT to safety. I’d prefer to keep him in the nickel….especially in man coverage situations. Bruce Johnson is better in zone coverage (see his pick against Dallas) but he gets man-handled too easily by bigger WR’s in the nickel, I’m not really up on him.

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 2, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

***by bigger WR's in man coverage**

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 2, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Injuries happen

so I think three staring caliber CBs is a good thing with Johnson as the fourth

agree with best 11 on the field but that can get you in trouble as well if good players do not adjust, and TT may not.

I like the way you think …..so how about Kiwi back to LB if Sintim proves to be a pass rush specialist ?

Kidding – would not move Kiwi again. But Sintim…..would like to see something from him.

by MSP Giant on Mar 2, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

After seeing him in the combine I could be starting to believe in Earl Thomas

Taylor Mays had a monster combine as well. Both of them looked a high in their stance and tight in the hips during one of the drills.

Chances are that we will have a different set of needs after the FA period is said and done. I’m still of the thought of grabbing a FA veteran safety and drafting in the middle rounds.

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by sunlion333 on Mar 2, 2010 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

sharper

no way he leaves the saints, he’s just trying to up his price, this is his last NFL contract, and wants to get the most out of it.

by r c a on Mar 2, 2010 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

Sharper hasn't really said that much, but

he was definitely underpaid last season if you count his production. If the Saints pay him the most, he’ll stay. I believe he is worth $4M+/yr for a two year with a team option on the second, guaranteed $4M. Toss in some incentives for Ints and tackles and we’ll have one helluva last line of D.

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by sunlion333 on Mar 2, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree...

the saints should match any reasonable offer.

he really gets to play the hero in gregg williams system, if he’s smart he will say right where he is.

by r c a on Mar 2, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

For all you Earl Thomas fans out there

He was measured at 5’10.5 and 208 lbs…bigger than many people expected.

He ran the 40 in 4.44.

He benched 225 lbs 21 times

Just wanted to pass along that info to anyone interested because a lot of people had concerns about his size and strength. It looks like that will no longer be a concern.

by ggggmen08 on Mar 2, 2010 4:02 PM EST reply actions  

Hope he doesn't rise too much!

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 2, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was interesting, I saw ET and the announcers were comparing him to Louis Delmas of last year. (that’s a good thing BTW. Delmas is a good young player…)

ET is bigger and like Delmas, will hit you in the box..but is more of a ballhawk. I’ve never been off the bandwagon, just you know..to say ET all the time is kinda boring in the offseason. But when push comes to shove, should I be doing a mock draft…and ET is there,

But if he’s there, ET has got to be worth that #15 (or do I not know that?)

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 2, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

TO my eyes watching combine

The difference between Berry and Thomas was not as big as I expected

I also thought that Stuckey and some of the other S’s were pretty good. Less impressed with Rolle, he looked awfully stiff, not really a cover guy. Ditto Kam Chancellor. But a bunch of S’s headed by Stuckey looked very promising.

I hope they take 2, I think you need 3 CBs and 3 Safeties starting caliber. I’d deal with Goff if they could nail down S.

by giantblue63 on Mar 2, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

No one talks Eric Berry anymore

i can see him sliding just enough for us to move up. that would be a blessing because teams making a run on OL and DT’s followed by QB’s, there is a slight, very slim chance he slides and maybe thomas goes before him, this will be the most exciting draft in a long time to me.

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 2, 2010 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

Looking forward...

…to an exciting draft as well. New days and prime-time! Should be fun. Draft party!

by Last year in Sec 127 on Mar 2, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Antrell Rolle if he’s there.

I’d take a flier on Jermain Phillips, and take a gander at one of the Bullocks (maybe just to say “Bollocks” after they get toasted on a TD pass) if they don’t get tendered.

We’re creeping down to the 3/5 deadline and there’s quite a few who haven’t been tendered. Maybe there will be some who are actually out there…I dunno why, I mean if the Giants are tendering CC Brown..hopefully with no intention of doing anything other then sacrificing him to the Gods…I can’t see why teams aren’t tendering players.

Regardless…I still draft a safety or 2. The UDFA’s from last year are one thing…basically competition. There’s new UDFA’s for this season too.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 2, 2010 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

I would comment

But I’m afraid I might hurt someone’s feelings…Hey FB..did you get a warning about your pottymouth too?

by Curtis Sexton on Mar 2, 2010 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

Curtis..this is amazing..in 24 hours..you have gone from pissing me off to laughing my ass off!!

“Pottymouth”??..hahaha..geezus that’s great !!..

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Mar 2, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Once again FreeBrad, I apologize

if I offended you. I’m just from the pre-gulliani era. So I’m a little tougher than most…

by Curtis Sexton on Mar 2, 2010 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

Rolle

I would love to have Rolle as our saftey…. Also I believe the giants tendered brown to compete in camp and most likley get cut

by bigblueguru on Mar 2, 2010 4:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Oh Crap...

Did taylor mays just run a 4.24 40? This could change the whole draft..

by Curtis Sexton on Mar 2, 2010 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Yes Al Davis is now taking Xanax every hour

Because with only one pick in round 1, he isn’t sure that he can get Mays and Campbell.

They’ll both be better than DHB and JaMarcus

by giantblue63 on Mar 2, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Wilson

I’d imagine the Bills will tender him at a second-round level, as that seems to be the going rate of any RFA that is at least a capable player (the great ones will be getting the first- and third-round level, no doubt). Having said that, if Whitner stays in Buffalo next year, Wilson is their 3rd safety, behind Whitner and Byrd, and I have to believe that the Bills could be talked into trading him for a lesser pick (like 3rd or 4th rounder). I’m in the front row on the Earl Thomas bandwagon, but if we were able to net Wilson for a mid-round pick, I’d be up for that. His familiarity with Fewell is obviously a huge plus, and the guy sounds like a team-first, work-hard kind of guy that’s always good to have around. Getting him would definitely solidify our SS position and would allow KP to become the permanent FS that he can be. I guess it depends on what Buffalo wants for him if they let him go, as the decision for me between Wilson (experience, solid leader) and the prospect of Earl Thomas (young ballhawking playmaker) is tough. Maybe that decision will be made for us if the Bills tender Wilson and refuse to give him up for anything below a second rounder.

"The good teams don't come in and say 'could have'. They get it done. Alright? It's that simple."

by BigBlue21 on Mar 2, 2010 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

I'd like Sharper short-term...

    if he’s available and doesn’t break the bank, and draft a safety as well. Normally I wouldn’t think Sharper should draw any interest, but the defense needs leadership. Maybe Fewell can instill a different culture (I hope so) than the Gmen had last year, but other than talking about stepping up and leading, we didn’t see a whole of it. It’ll be interesting to see if Fewell wants to lobby for Wilson. Yes Wilson played for him, but that may or may not mean he’d want him again. If he does, he’s obviously familiar with what he’s getting and I’ve got no beef against it. Heck, I don’t have a problem with Rolle, who would traditionally be the more viable target if not for the leadership vacuum and Fewell’s association with Wilson. If we get Wilson or Rolle, I think we have more flex in when to look for a safety in the draft. If we get Sharper, I think safety is more important in the draft than with the other two. But really, it’ll all be a matter of price, but all would be upgrades.

by Cranky50 on Mar 2, 2010 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

What happened to this once great country?

Too many sissies with easily hurt feelings. If WWII happened today we’d get rolled in a week or two.

Sharper would be a good bridge to someone younger. Too many needs and not enough first round picks. Seems like the LBs will be too expensive in terms of salary or picks so a safety would be nice prior to the draft. I’m not sold on Wilson just because he played under PF. Sharper + McClain or Price in the 1st and we are well on our way to fixing the weak gut.

by Wilba on Mar 2, 2010 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

Haha!..Damn that's funny!!..I agree with you..

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Mar 2, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Wilson's stats from last year (in 12 starts)

103 tackles (2nd on the team), 2 sacks, 6 passes defensed, 4 INTs, and 1 FF. He’s an upgrade over anyone on our roster except KP. And don’t underestimate the connection with Fewell. Coaches always love to bring in players they’re familiar with, and it always helps to have a veteran back there who has a feel for the system and can help the younger guys play in it successfully. He’s also a great special teamer and was a team captain for the Bills last year. He won’t command the money that Sharper/Rolle will, although Buffalo will undoubtedly demand a draft pick if/once they tender him. Wilson is an above-average SS that’s familiar with the system—seems like an ideal guy for Reese to go after if at all possible.

"The good teams don't come in and say 'could have'. They get it done. Alright? It's that simple."

by BigBlue21 on Mar 3, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 3, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Reed Doughty

I think Reed Doughty would be worth a draft pick. I feel like we need a safety who can stifle the big play against the run. Michael Johnson is better as a coverage guy, and if Aaron Ross is healthy and we need to play a true coverage scheme, we can throw phillips over to SS and Ross can take FS. This guy was the reason the Redskins stayed in so many games against good teams last year. This guy is solid in coverage and great in run support. I think he is a real 3-5 year solution at the position. With him and Phillips at safety and a healthy Webster, Thomas and Ross at CB, we’d have an excellent secondary. We also have to lock down Brian Price or Rolando McClain in the draft, and then address DT/LB (whichever we didn’t pick in round 1) through FA. The middle of our D is suspect, we need to be able to stop the run and rush the passer, that’s giants football.

by NYCbigbluefan on Mar 2, 2010 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

Antrel Rolle would make sense

he has plenty of years left and he’d be a nice safety net if phillips doesn’t return, then we could focus on MLB with the 15th then go safety with 2nd

by BigBlueD on Mar 2, 2010 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe Rolle if he is available

But I would pass on Sharper and Wilson

Who knows if Sharper will have the stamina for another year, and I would rather draft a new guy than to get Wilson for a (probably high) pick

by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 2, 2010 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

The draft is very deep at safety, but it’s also prudent to at least do your due diligence in the free agent market before the draft so you’re not leaving yourself with a ton of holes to fill. Believe me, I’d love to get Earl Thomas, but if we get Wilson, Rolle, or Sharper, then that allows the Giants to be more flexible at 15. A DT like Brian Price or Dan Williams at 15 would be nice to have also.

"The good teams don't come in and say 'could have'. They get it done. Alright? It's that simple."

by BigBlue21 on Mar 3, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I think

 there is more depth at lb than s in this draft.. well.. that would be availabl in the 2nd round.
i think trying for a rolle would be great.

then getting a bpa at DT most likely( if mcclain doesnt fall)
then drafting a lb in the 2nd round.

although i do like earl thomas!!

by semsemma on Mar 3, 2010 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

what about other "cheaper" safeties...

Daniel Manning (when not injured) from CHI
Nick Collins from GB
Antoine Bethea from INDY (this guy is so under the radar he’d be a great pick up for the giants!)
Ryan Clark from PITT
Oshiomogho Atogwe from STL’

I think we need to stop looking at the bigger name FAs and focus on a mix of guys that can come in for a relatively affordable price and be just as effective…

LBs….Brackett from INDY
Ryans from HOU
Gaither from PHIL
Fujits from NO
Banta-Cain from NE
Kampman from GB (although a better DE)
Jackson from CLE
Oakfore from ARI

just to name a few…..talent should be evaluated..b/c it isnt’ about who spends the most its about who spends the wisest!

by DTrain1978 on Mar 3, 2010 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

Ryans, Otogwe, Collins and Bethea are not only “not cheap” but very good and pretty much the big names.

Also…theyre RFA’s, meaning they’d cost picks. That’s probably too steep a price.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 3, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

LOL “cheaper safeties”. Thats just funny.

Bethea is hardly under the radar after putting up some great numbers in 09’. Same with Atogwe who has been playing at a high level for a few years. Collins in another good safety who wouldn’t be anywhere near cheap. No thanks on Manning or Clark.

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 3, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

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