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Reports: Giants sign Australian punter

Here are the details, from Mike Garafolo.

With Jeff Feagles currently in a contract standoff with the Giants, the team has taken an interesting approach to their punting situation.

The Giants signed former Australian rules football player Jy Bond Thursday after Bond worked out for the team. The 30-year-old Bond has been attempting to kick start his NFL career for a few years and was with the Dolphins from April to June last year. He's never kicked in an NFL game.

My take: This is very much a message to Feagles. I have no way of knowing how serious the Giants are about Bond. What I take from this, though, is that the Giants have no interest in paying the 44-year-old Feagles a large sum of money. In Australia they might say this could be 'Hooroo' for Feagles career as a Giant.

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Not going to frighten Feagles much

Interesting signing, I was very intrigued when the Jets signed Ben Graham a few years ago, but I doubt Feagles is going to lower his contract demands by much as a result of this signing.

by jp2y on Mar 18, 2010 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

eh..

well atleast we know the giants front office isnt on vacation anymore. Things have been awfully quiet considering the positions that still need to be addressed before the draft.

by NYG_Slater on Mar 18, 2010 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

It's quiet on "your" end

I doubt it’s even been close to quiet at the front office and with the scouting staff. We’re probably racking up the frequent flyer miles visiting pro days and the league meetings.

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by sunlion333 on Mar 18, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe but...

Ralph Vacchiano and Mike Garafolo tend to do a pretty good job keeping track of what’s happening AND they have been pretty quiet since the rolle signing.

by NYG_Slater on Mar 18, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's quiet

everywhere. At least in terms of movement. That’s how this stretch is.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 18, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm curious to see what the Giants are offering Feagles

He made $1M in ’08 and $1.5M in ’09, when he underperformed. I would think he and his agent smart enough to not expect a raise after a drop in performance. Maybe the Giants were offering a performance “reduction” in salary.

I doubt Feagles gets an offer of even $1.5M on the open market. I would like him back, though.

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by sunlion333 on Mar 18, 2010 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

he is a legend,

but his precision is the only thing he’s got now. his leg strength just isn’t there anymore.

by Quitter37 on Mar 18, 2010 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

fallback option I guess

Zoltan or any rook punter, is probably not likely.

Seems like a move to cover the cornhole, is all.

Hope he ain’t Sav THE NOSE Rocca tho…he stinks

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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 18, 2010 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with Ed...

    I think this is more of a “get off your high horse and sign on the line” move. A couple of reports have said that this signing “isn’t related to replacing Feagles.” Really??? Let’s see, other possible reasons to sign him assuming you’re married to Feagles as your punter.
                 a) The Maras have some extra dollars hanging around and wanted to stimulate the Australian economy
                 b) They’ll field two punters with the same number so opponents won’t know whether to prepare for a short directional punt, or a booming long one
                 c) After noticing how well Jerry Manuel has done with the Mets by cornering the market on backup catchers, Reese has started stockpiling all available punting posibilities so he create a monopoly and get a king’s ransom whenever any other NFL team needs a punter
                 d) the other reports are wrong and this is a subtle way of saying sign or move on

by Cranky50 on Mar 18, 2010 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

or he could be their plan b kickoff specialist after lloyd went to minny

who knows

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by inventor frank on Mar 18, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't they also sign someone that was a kicker and punter in college?

Feagles distance or the how the refs marked it was awful last year. Awful. It was as bad if not worse than Tynes kickoffs. The coverage was awful too on both units. I know I’ve beat this horse before but why is Quinn still a Giants coach???

by Wilba on Mar 18, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

he's still around...but he's more FG kicker i think?

but he does punt on occasion

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Mar 18, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Swank is still there....

but he’s a kicker and this is a punter

by Cranky50 on Mar 18, 2010 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

You want to send feagles a message....

tell him to gtfoh….

I’m sure we can find some bum on the street who can kick the ball 30 yards….and out of bounds.

Are we really keeping him around b/c he’s good at directional kicking?!?!?!

give me a break please….how he and our special teams coach are still employeed is beyond me.

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Mar 18, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

+1 for everytime we had to punt from our end of the field

Feagles isn’t what he was. If we cut AP for a drop off in performance we should have no problem dropping this ancient relic. He’s that guy we all go golfing with who can drop it within 10ft of the cup…. as long as your on a par 3. Unfortunately more often than not you gotta use a driver not a 9 iron, and quite frankly Feagles hasn’t carried that club for a couple of years now.

Time to say goodbye Jeff… thanks for everything, now go open a car dealership in Florida or something

by Flynner on Mar 18, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Landetta was the Man too....

but we sent him packing….

why are we holding on to this fossil….sorry…. greedy fossil?

"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT

by andiamo708 on Mar 18, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL!!!

Bring on Voltran !!!

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Mar 19, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

His name is Bond...

Jy Bond!

had to do it…:)

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by 27Tango on Mar 18, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL...

Thought about it myself.

by rbman3 on Mar 19, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha!!

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Mar 19, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless feagles retires, i bet he'll sign

At this point in his career no team is going to offer him a longterm deal. I seriously doubt feagles will uproot his family to sign with another team for an additional 100-200k.

by NYG_Slater on Mar 18, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Bring back Rodney Williams

Forget the 25 yard directional kick and lets get back to those 90 yarders!!! Go BP!

The harder you work... the luckier you get!

by BigBlueFanatic on Mar 18, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

If Quinn messed up Feagles last year...

and Quinn is back coaching special teams this year, and Feagles is back (and ANOTHER year older), what’s to say things won’t be as messed up as last year? Either Quinn, Feagles or both need to go, and I’m for starting with Quinn.

by Cranky50 on Mar 18, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry...

but I am not going to blame a ST coach, when you are talking about a punter who I believe
has more punts than any punter ever. Look, a guy that has been punting for well over 20 years can certainly figure things out on his own. Secondly, if you want to blame anybody for the kickoff team that is on Tynes (hence, bringing in a Swank)…I think the Giants would be comfortable
letting Tynes kick field goals (over 80% career), albeit he makes us uncomfortable. I am also
not saying the mighty Quinn is a heckuva ST coach, just not shifting the blame on him, that’s all.

by Great Gatsby on Mar 19, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gatsby, no problem...

    I don’t disagree with the idea that Feagles SHOULD know what he’s doing, and is certainly quaified to. But it’s been suggested that Quinn started messing with him, and the results, if true, weren’t great. I think that Feagles could probably make better adjustments on his own, and if the stories of “help” from Quinn aren’t true, then Feagles just fell off on his own, and just plain wasn’t very good. You’re totally right on Tynes kickoff problems, and that he isn’t a horrible field goal kicker, just doesn’t have the distance on his kickoffs. However no aspect of special teams has been standout and Quinn has been around a few years without things getting better, and he doesn’t inspire confidence here. Pretty much what I was trying to say (probably awkwardly) is that either a) Feagles was on his own and played poorly OR b) that Feagles retained ability and got messed up by trying to adapt to what Quinn wanted. In EITHER case, if Quinn is back, and Feagles is back, there’s no assurance that things would be any better this year, and Feagles is another year older.

by Cranky50 on Mar 19, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the memories Jeff, no one was better but...

It’s time to spend time with the family and for the Giants to move forward.

by NY17NE14 on Mar 18, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Forget Punting

Tynes cant kick the ball past the 20 yrd line to save his life. I dont kno how he is still in the NFL anymore because he is downright awful. I saw him kick it past the 10 yrd line once and almost fell off the couch in suprise.

by #56 4life on Mar 18, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Check the stats on Feagles vs the other kickers in the league

Here are the stats by kicker.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/punting/position/defense

  Unfortunately it’s hard to compare net yards because there is no way to look at the stats and determine, for example, if the net yards is due to poor kicks or poor return coverage. To be fair to Feagles I think our coverage has slipped lately. Just looking at the stats I can’t see much that makes him look terrible. Some kickers had a lot less than half their kicks returned but many of them also kicked a lot into the end zone which is the equivelant of an automatic 20 yard return.

Of course we all watched as he looked visably worse last year, but I wonder if all of that was his fault or if maybe the coaches asked him to try something different and it didn’t work.

Personally I’m not ready to put him out to pasture just yet. I think if the Giants want to have competition for the job that’s fine. If Jeff outkicks the newcomers maybe he deserves the money. If he can beat the best we can put up against him I think we should try to keep him.

Tynes, now…..don’t even get me started on Mr Limp Dick kickoff specialist.

by giant fan since 57 on Mar 19, 2010 5:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Ummmmm Ed...

Who in Australia would say it could be “hooroo” for feagles? Ive never heard anyone say that…

Aussie! Aussie! Aussie! Oi ! Oi ! Oi ! Aiming for ONE medal in the winter Olympics.

by ChuckyofNorris on Mar 19, 2010 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Gotta love March!

It’s the month when we have 30 comments about a punter!

by TonyManero on Mar 19, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Lol!..yeah pretty soon we will discussing where they should place the gatorade coolers..

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Mar 19, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobbi, as I watch...

spring training, can’t remember a couple of these towns (mentioned I lived in Tampa for four years after college)…Where is Viera and Port Charlotte located? I thought Port Charlotte was north of Tampa, must have been thinking of Newport Richey.

by Great Gatsby on Mar 20, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hate to digress...

but the Iggles released Darren Howard (Dan Williams. Bryan Price?), he could be useful to the Giants as a rotational guy? I will certainly put our man Rocky on a short leash this year (if they keep hm?)

by Great Gatsby on Mar 20, 2010 8:09 AM EDT reply actions  

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