New York Giants notes: Feagles kicked out?
by Ed Valentine on Mar 18, 2010 8:02 AM EDT
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Pay attention, Zoltan Mesko fans.
Mike Garafolo reported Wednesday night that veteran punter Jeff Feagles and the Giants "are not seeing eye-to-eye on salary."
Could this be the end of the line in New York for the 22-year veteran? Feagles, 44, is an unrestricted free agent and you can hardly blame the guy for trying to cash one more significant pay check before his career closes.
From the Giants' perspective, you can also see why would be hesitant to give Feagles a fat pay day. He remains a great directional kicker, but leg strength is an issue and his performance did slip a bit in 2009.
So, Mesko fans the door might be open for the Giants to look at using a late-round pick on the Michigan punter.
- Great line by Larry McShane of the New York Daily News in a brief story noting that Eli Manning toured the new Meadowlands Stadium Wednesday. He wrote:
The Big Blue QB didn't even need a coin toss to tour the stadium without his Jets counterpart, Mark Sanchez. - Speaking of the Stadium, the Giants and Jets do not expect Woody Johnson's coin toss rant to hurt New York's 2014 Super Bowl bid.
- Sometimes I just don't get ESPN's Matt Mosley. He made a big deal out of Giants coach Tom Coughlin being at Florida's Pro Day Wednesday, and tried to make the claim that Coughlin is somehow interested in bringing Tim Tebow to the Giants. C'mon, Matt, be serious. In case you didn't notice there were other players at the Pro Day. You have to think TC was particularly interested in seeing Brandon "Molasses" Spikes. And there were several reports that Giants officials spent significant time with Joe Haden, regarded as the top cornerback in the draft. Speaking of Tebow, you have to check out Miami QB Chad Henne's assessment of Tebow's ability, or lack thereof, to play in the NFL.
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If Mosley wrote for a random blog
I’d think he was just writing the Tebow thing for page hits, but if ESPN.com is fishing for page hits, maybe the economy is in even worse shape than I thought.
2009 Did Not Happen
Good to see Molasses is sticking!
I like “Sun Dial” too…got a kick out of that one.
2 nicknames is OK, he’s slow enough that you can address him by both.
Master of the squeegee
call him all the names you want
It’s not like he’s going to be able to catch you to do anything about it….
wow can we get JaMarcus Russell opninion next....
Sounds like Henne is a little jealous of his coach paying more attention to Tebow haha
or maybe a little nervous...
that his coach is spending more time with a QB in the upcoming draft haha
And now Mosley wants to see the Giants sabotage their draft with Tebow?
The hell is he gonna do, preach to fans near the 50yd line?
I heard Coughlin left during Tebow’s throwing session too…there’s your “endorsement” right there.
Master of the squeegee
Mosley is a Cowboys guy
He’s about as reliable and impartial as Aikman & Buck
You play to win the game!
dont mock someones faith....
you know you can make fun of a 40 time all you want but dont mock someones faith. Tebow is a stand up guy and has done some great things on and off the field, lets not bring him down because of it. In a time when teams look for leaders and great men off the field, all people can do is make fun of Tebow for how "good’ of a guy he is.
Faith is not a virtue.
And one does not need religion to be a good guy.
by mypisceannature on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
just didnt like people making fun of Tebows faith
I never said “faith” was a “virtue”. Or did I say that you need religion to be a good guy, I dont think I even mentioned the word religion.
don't worry NJ
He’s just being a Pisces
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Mar 18, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Tebow can preach all he wants but it won’t help win any football games
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 18, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah?
Then why are guys always thanking God for helping them win the Superbowl? I see a twelve-peat coming…
Did you hear McClaren is going to roll out commercial sports cars in Britain?
Google "MP4-12C’ and start saving…
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Mar 18, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Jy Bond ???
I wonder if they are serious about Bond or just using him to put pressure on Feagles to sign??
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
I love Feagles
but all good things must come to an end. We have a serious issue with our kickoffs as well. I’m not big on carrying two place kickers so that one can do kickoffs and one field goals. I’d rather carry a field goal place kicker and a punter that can boom kickoffs as well like a few teams around the league are now doing.
Heard the Eagles will be punting a lot this year
suppose it would be good to upgrade Sav “THE NOSE” Rocca
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 18, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea
D “three and out” McNabb has worn Rocca out.
by G Fan in England on Mar 18, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
My favorite Rocca moment...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_vYB3walr4
He got absolutely blasted, popped right back up, picked up his helmet, patted his teammate on the head and jogged off.
amazed
you posted an Eagles link I’m actually going to click on
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Mar 18, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
With a name..
Like that, should be a boxer.
by Great Gatsby on Mar 18, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Bye
I was looking at recent fanposts on BGN by Kolberahasbegan and rrp134 and now I know why you spend so much time on BBV!
by G Fan in England on Mar 18, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh...
Yeah, we’ve been flooded with a lot of nonsense the past month or so. We have to tighten it up over there.
Trade McNabb! for the #1 overall!
Trade Kolb for the #2 this year and the #1 overall next year!!
Sign TO!! (Jibta…)
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 18, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I won't defend his grammar
But, the Eagles front office seems to love 2nd grade logic. 1st round pick for McNabb or Kolb? No one will bite on that. Kolb was drafted in the 2nd round and has only played in a couple of games. And McNabb, although still talented, was a 1st rounder 11 years ago—how many seasons does he have left?
DB
The grammar comment
relates to Free’s attempt to mimic JIBTA (a well known Eagles poster – well at least on BGN!).
by G Fan in England on Mar 18, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
The Seahawks just traded 3 and let the Chargers move up 20 spots in the 2nd this year for a guy that’s 27 and has a grand total of ZERO passing attempts in Charlie Whitehurst. Asking for a high price for McNabb/Kolb is far from “2nd grade logic.”
So on that basis
McNabb is worth what the first ten picks in the draft if you go by passing attempts….
Kolb is 25 and has all of 130 attempts – so a hign 2nd rounder with a swap of 3rd’s sounds about right for him
by G Fan in England on Mar 18, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
So on that basis McNabb is worth what the first ten picks in the draft if you go by passing attempts….
Don’t be that guy that really reaches in understanding someone’s logic, then equates it to some ridiculous parallel. It’s dumb.
Kolb is 25 and has all of 130 attempts – so a hign 2nd rounder with a swap of 3rd’s sounds about right for him
Not even close. Big difference between a guy that has a couple career starts and played very well in both of them, and a guy that has never thrown a pass in the NFL.
You made the reference to age and attempts. If you had said starts I would have nothing to reach for.
Kolb is this year’s Schaub who (and I am not reaching here) also had two starts, more attempts and a better rating when he was traded to the Texans.
He went for two seconds and a swap of first’s so Kolb’s value is closer to that than Whitehurst but to say he is worth 2 first’s is based on what ?
by G Fan in England on Mar 18, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
obviously BD is going to overvalue his players
I’ll give him a 6-th rounder for McNabb, and I’ll give him that same 6th-rounder back to keep Vick.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Mar 18, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Question
Where did this sudden hype for Charlie Whitehurst come from? Why were so many teams interesting in him, and why did the seahawks drop 20 spots in the 3rd and give up a 3rd next year for him? He was the Chargers 3rd string QB right?
Yeah, it’s puzzling. I guess we’ll find out if he can play soon enough. They paid a high price, for sure.
a guess we will see...
I heard he ran a 5.1 40 though haha
If you were a GM and not a biased Kolb lover
Would you trade your first round pick for an inexperienced 2nd round QB? That’s all I’m saying. Eagles fans think they have Drew Brees on their bench, but from the outside he’s just any other young back up QB. Good potential, yes, but that’s a big move for a guy who’s been riding the pine for a few seasons.
DB
Maybe we can trade Bomar for a first too
why not, right?
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 18, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Would you trade your first round pick for an inexperienced 2nd round QB?
It depended on whether or not I needed a QB, and was thinking about taking one in the 1st round of the draft. If I had a choice between a first-round talent, but a complete unknown in say… Jimmy Clausen… or a Kevin Kolb that has looked really good in 2 NFL starts, I’d personally rather have Kolb. I’m sure there are some NFL GM’s that would agree, and some that wouldn’t.
And nobody’s saying he’s Drew Brees from what I can see, but I’m pretty fired up about his potential.
"really good" is a huge overstatement
He threw 3 INT’s against the Saints and only managed to gain any significant yards in garbage time, and in the next game he played against the Bucs which at the time had the worst defense in the league.
He also had one of the best WR corps in the league and a solid O-line.
And a big reason in Whithurst’s allure is that he got coached by one of the best offensive minds in the league in Norv Turner while for 10 years Reid hasn’t managed to stop McNabb from throwing to the ground quite too often.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 18, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
OOOOOH
Dawk, I think you’d get killed. There is a serious Zoltan man-crush in several corners of the BBV universe.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 18, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Ed
You are picking 15th so there is no need for Giants fans to worry!
by G Fan in England on Mar 18, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder what the discrepancy in $$ is?
What type of money could he be asking for?
But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!
Per MG
He made $1.5M last season. Have to assume he wants a raise.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 18, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
senior discount?
we dont get a senior discount with Feagles? haha jk
Sounds...
Like the Giants are trying to pay him like he is a senior, and they should at this stage.
by Great Gatsby on Mar 18, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Feagles..
and he has done a lot for the Giants, but Zoltan is pretty tempting in a late round, or maybe even an undrafted signee
So do I....
“but leg strength is an issue and his performance did slip a bit in 2009.”
Actually it slipped a lot, new punter and kickoff specialist are needs for this team as well.
by Great Gatsby on Mar 18, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The Power of Zoltan
WonderTwin Powers – Activate
Form of – An Ice Bridge!
I loved Feagles, but it is time to move on. Bring on our new superhero.
I have to say that as a Michigan Football fan
Mesko is soooo good and will be a great directional punter at the next level. He has a strong leg and that is half the battle. I bet he can do great on kickoffs because his leg is that strong.
Wanted Zoltan before....
and still do. Feagles should be thinking about returning some of last year’s check rather than demanding more $‘s after last season. Then again, I guess he figures he’s got nothing to lose, either he gets the extra bucks from the Giants, or he goes home and files for Social Security. Mesko also saves a roster spot with his combination kicking and punting ability. Of course it’s NOT going to happen, but I’d be willing to forgo getting Mesko if Philadelphia will blow their first rounder on him. I’m thinking more like Mesko in round 6 or 7.
Henne needs to be quiet
He sucks and was a product of Manningham in college :P
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 18, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions
How come..
Manningham didn’t run out of bounds or drop the ball in college
You only need 1 foot inbounds in college for a catch
Manningham would’ve had 1k yards if we were playing college rules in the NFL
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 18, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
My understanding was that Quinn wanted more hang time
and had Feagles adjust his mechanics from what he is best at. We should trade Quinn to the UFL for a bench heater and a couple of Gatorade coolers.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
I wouldn't ask that much
Just one Gatorade cooler.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 18, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Quinn seems to be an equal opportunity liability...
Yeah, I’ve heard about him altering Feagles mechanics as well, though the lack of leg strength and age are issues for Feagles regardless. Quinn also has presided over Tynes and the kicking game, and the coverage units that have consistantly allowed opponents favorable field position. I don’t dislike Feagles, but I think he’s nuts pushing for more money this year, but he HAS been a valuable performer in the past. Quinn…..I’m trying to think how he’s distinguished himself via the effectiveness of his charges. After reflecting on it sunlion, I think maybe I’d compromise for the Gatorade coolers and a match for Quinn.
Giants have signed a 30 y.o. Aussie rules punter...
Jy Bond…..now that’s a bit out of the box. Maybe it’s supposed to make Feagles think about who wants a AARP punter and forget about demanding additional salery.
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