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BBV Community Mock Draft: With No. 4 pick, Redskins select ...

Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State.

Playing the part of Washignton Redskins GM is 'G Fan In England.' He writes:

The Redskins are faced with many choices in the 2010 draft and many stem from not only a change in the HC but also the change to a 3-4 from a 4-3 defense.
 
The Redskins take a long look at LB McClain as a future replacment for London and to clean up after AH. Berry is also looked at as a replacement for Sean Taylor (RIP).
 
Does the HC want a new QB as seems the vogue these days. Well, this is an old new HC who was happy to play with The Snake and (Brian) Griese, so I see no issues with Campbell staying another year.
 
The biggest influence on the pick was the retirement of OT C Samuels, which combined with the rest of the OL led Campbell to take a severe beating in 2009.
 
The Redskins therefore select Okung to start shoring up the OL neglected over the years. He will be the cornerstone of the OL for the next decade.

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My take: Can't really argue with this pick. You can make a good case for the Redskins taking Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen here. I mean, by now we know Jason Campbell is never going to be a big-time QB. But, he's serviceable for now. Snagging the premier offensive tackle in the draft is never a bad idea, and it is a good building block for the Redskins. To view the explanations for prior selections, click the highlighted player name.

'Ronjohnson' will be up next with the Kansas City Chiefs selection.

POSTEAMPLAYERPOSSCHOOLDRAFTER
1 St. Louis Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma Soldier_
2 Detroit Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska soulpower
3 Tampa Bay Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma i_formation27
4 Washington Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State G Fan in England
5 Kansas City ronjohnson
6 Seattle CCE718
7 Cleveland GreatGatsby
8 Oakland Hoyadestroya85
9 Buffalo The Greek
10 Jacksonville jp2y
11 Denver NYG_Slater
12 Miami sunlion333
13 San Francisco RIPShea
14 Seattle CCE718
15 N.Y. Giants Ed Valentine
16 Tennessee Jason??
17 San Francisco RIPShea
18 Pittsburgh ross_stephen
19 Atlanta daddyzander
20 Houston BitterEli
21 Cincinnati Woogie526
22 New England Ryan Valentine
23 Green Bay Dan Luibil
24 Philadelphia Bye Dawk
25 Baltimore Larry Soprano
26 Arizona Snipah
27 Dallas pataroons
28 San Diego hakeemthedream
29 N.Y. Jets Brooklyn58
30 Minnesota hurikaine
31 Indianapolis Charles L.
32 New Orleans GiantsReignSupreme
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Is this the right pick for the Redskins?
Yes
220 votes
No
58 votes

278 votes | Poll has closed

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This was the safe pick

for the Redskins with BPA meeting a strong need at a psoition where the risk of bust is lower than other positions.

The tough choice would have been if Okung had gone to the Lions.

The Redskins are faced with either a QB or DL and neither are good fits in 2010 in my view unless Suh can play DE in a 3-4 (what do you think Free can he?) or a lower ranked OT in Bulaga/Davis.

As I could not trade down I would have gone with Bulaga as are good friends on HH are all screaming for an OT in round one even if it is a little bit of a reach.

by G Fan in England on Mar 17, 2010 6:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Please

can some of the no voters comment why?

Is it because you think it is a bad pick or

It is a good pick but you don’t want the Redskins to make a good pick.

by G Fan in England on Mar 17, 2010 6:59 AM EDT reply actions  

It is

a good pick if
1) they don’t want to take a QB and ship off Campbell
2) Okung is even still around after the Lions.

I think most people can agree Campbell is at worst an average starting QB. If he didn’t have to worry so much about staying upright he, and all those 2nd round picks a couple years ago, might be able to put some points up. Okung’s the top talent at their #1 position of need, can’t argue with it unless you think they need a new QB.

by SBXLII on Mar 17, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is both....

A need pick and a good pick, that line needs help! The QB from Texas will probably be around
with their next pick as well, if they want a young QB.

by Great Gatsby on Mar 17, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

So why all the no's

Ed wanted this to be an objective and fair draft and yet no one is coming forward with other choices.

by G Fan in England on Mar 17, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno...?

Read my post below under Free’s post

by Great Gatsby on Mar 17, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Campbell...

That is why I said no. Shannan is a QB guru, but I think even he knows he can’t do much with Campbell. I think he likes the idea of Clausen here and by picking a QB, it shows the Skins fans that he is planning for the future. Otherwise, I think if Okung falls to here, it is a great pick. In my opinion, though, I think that the old new HC presses for QB and scratches behind Snyder’s ear for that big name pick.

by CCE718 on Mar 17, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

Don’t know how you can say even he knows he can’t win with Campbell?
I am not saying Campbell is a very good NFL QB at this point, however you can name any QB you want, and try to develop as a QB with the constant turnover at Head Coach, and also the OC…This will be at least the 4th HC, and what 5 OC’s since Campbell arrived, and don’t forget the guy they brought in that was saying “Bingo”
before he arrived, helps to have stabilty around you my friends.

by Great Gatsby on Mar 17, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think

the redskins try and make a splash. They didnt do it in FA this year, but will want to. I think they take jimmy clausen

by ryanwk628 on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Need Pick

With Osi (Kiwi), Cole, and Ware all coming off the edge in the NFC East, this was not only a Safe Pick, but a NEED pick. Like you said, Shannahan will be fine with Campbell for now.

by ross_stephen on Mar 17, 2010 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

from down here

as a giants fan who lives in dc, i get to suffer through more skins games than giants games and agree wholeheartedly with this pick.

i understand alot of people are not sold on campbell, and that makes sense, but his offensive line last year was an abomination, and NOBODY looks good when they are getting hit before they even finish a 5 step drop.

by daddyzander on Mar 17, 2010 8:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow...

lotta no’s.

Maybe its Giants fans hoping they don’t solidify that line?

I think they’ll grab OL regardless. Whether its Okung if he’s there, or Bulaga or a surprise in Trent Williams.

Check that, I hope its Trent Williams. That man is NOT a LT, and if the Skins draft him to be their LT I’d love it, as I’m sure Osi Kiwi and Tuck (and Derrick Morgan? Brandon Graham?) would too.

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Good Point...

Maybe its Giants fans hoping they don’t solidify that line? Try to look at this from the team that is picking, their perspective

by Great Gatsby on Mar 17, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its hard for some ppl to think outside of the (giants) box

Toney does what the douglas do. And no one can do what he does b/c doing it without being Toney Douglas just doesnt make it do what it do

by semsemma on Mar 17, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sad but true

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 17, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

With a good offensive line

Jason Campbell is going to become a good NFL QB. Mark my words. The guy’s got talent, but OL was never sexy enough for Danny Boy to pay any attention to, so Campbell spent half his time on his back. This is the right pick.

2009 Did Not Happen

by cjmulrain on Mar 17, 2010 8:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Shanahan

Will want to mold his own QB from scratch. So if Clausen is there I think he’ll grab him.

by ronjohnson on Mar 17, 2010 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Shanahan's history

Whilst with the Broncos he only drafted 2 QB’s in the first 3 rounds.

Griese 3rd round 1998 and Cutler in the first in 2006 (when Plummer retired).

If anything his draft history shows him taking a DB in the early rounds – but he has picked some good OL guys in the first two rounds including Clady in 2008.

by G Fan in England on Mar 17, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

How long

will Ed keep us waiting or your pick?

by G Fan in England on Mar 17, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

My pick is in

Ed has decided the way to do this is three or four a day. I think it allows time for some comments. Makes sense.

by ronjohnson on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just in time for lunch!

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 17, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shanahan

built a good OL at Denver, so Okung is a logical choice for him. Hard to say how good Campbell is, but with a decent line, he’ll definitely be better. With that said, I wouldn’t be shocked if he took Clausen.

by Jolly on Mar 17, 2010 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

yea

but this is the same coach who said that he could find a good OLineman anywhere in the draft. They didnt have to be the most physically imposing guys to play in his zone blocking scheme, just smart.

by ryanwk628 on Mar 17, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder

how often he has had a pick this high in the first round and would having such a high pick change his thinking? I can’t pound the table either way, but I would be surprised if he chose other than Okung or Clausen.

by Jolly on Mar 17, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

The highest

he picked in Denver was 11th – most times he was picking in the 20’s.

by G Fan in England on Mar 17, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

The football knowledge

exhibited on this board astounds me.

by Jolly on Mar 17, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you mean

The quality or the Lack of….

by G Fan in England on Mar 17, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

A compliment

was my intention G. However, my knowledge is so limited that any compliment I make must be kept in perspective.

by Jolly on Mar 17, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Redskins aren't going to win without an O-Line

So they should draft an offensive tackle in the first round and then try to snag another quarterback later on (Tebow?) Good pick from both a need and a value standpoint.

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Mar 17, 2010 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

This was a smart and obvious pick

After watching the Giants second game against the Redskins, and after my numerous cheers and feelings of joy from watching Campbell get lit up, I actually felt a teeny bit bad for the guy. He got ravaged by our D-line! The skins NEED an elite OT, and if they don’t grab one in the 1st, whichever rookie QB they draft will get Mathew Stafford-ed and will end up being damaged goods. If the Giants had their O-line, everyone on here would have voted yes to taking Okung. keep it 100!

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 17, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL

I felt bad for him too in a few games and Portis had the nerve to criticize him.

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 17, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Portis is a class act...actually a classless asshole

Him and Larry Johnson in the locker room??? Damn that spells HEADACHE!
They will probably skip training camp together and hit the strip clubs.

"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden

by I_Formation27 on Mar 17, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Need and quite frankly the only way to go

You never pass up a potential 10-15 yr dominant LT, Shannahan gets his ryan clady all over again

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Mar 17, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

NO

I voted no. IMO Shanahan takes Clausen to compete this year for the starting job.Shanahan has stated he can find good o-linemen in any round in the draft. Snyder and Shanahan must be salavating on the thought of Jimmy Clausen pro ready QB some one that Shanahan thinks he can mold into the next John Elway.

by costanza! on Mar 17, 2010 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Suggestion for Ed.

I think posting comments in reverse order (newer first) would make it easier to follow for mobile followers.
Btw: your pick for the skins make sense, gfan.

LarryHarryCarlPepper

by gr8kicks on Mar 17, 2010 9:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i think this is the right pick for the skins

but not the one they will make. this pick will be a quarterback, whether its sam bradford or jimmy clausen. shanahan drafted cutler a few years back so he could mold his own franchise qb and i think hes going to want to do the same thing in washington. a LT at 4 makes perfect sense, but i see the redskins making the pick that doesnt make perfect sense.

by GiantsReignSupreme on Mar 17, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Redskins have signed

Rex Grossman…

Unless Campbell is being traded that suggests Clausen is not an option at 4.

by G Fan in England on Mar 17, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

G Fan

I disagree. Shanahan is no dummy. He knows that Grossman is not a solution, but a decent backup QB with big game experience. The Skins still need a franchise QB, neither of which are Campbell or Grossman. I think they try to trade Campbell and go after Clausen.

by CCE718 on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

The best and only pick that significantly impacts this teams chances

The Lions should not pass on Okung. The fact that they did makes this a no brainer pick.

Shanahan is a QB guy, and he sees something in Campbell. I think we all have seen flashes from this kid. He has been in, what, 4 different sytems and coordinators already in a few years? He is perfectly serviceable while the teams gets better around him. Mike S is not on a short leash/win now directive. He’s gonna build with longevity in mind, therefore Left Tackle.

Drafting Okung pays dividends, right away. Clausen would take a while. There are a couple QB’s worth looking at in the second or third round and next year Locker willl be hitting the draft and he may be better than anything available this year.

This is the head and shoulders best tackle in the draft and the Skins are lucky he’s available at this spot.

Bleeding Blue since 1962

by sunlion333 on Mar 17, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

He is an excellent choice

I wouldn’t be surprised if he is better than the 3 players selected before him, and it addresses a huge need.

Remember how feckless the Giants pass rush was and how they overwhelmed the Skins line at the end of the season. Getting the BPA and filling a need.

by giantblue63 on Mar 17, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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