New York Giants notes: Woody's rant costly?
by Ed Valentine on Mar 16, 2010 7:47 AM EDT
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Jusr a couple of quick New York Giants notes this morning.
- Gary Myers of the New York Daily News wonders if Woody Johnson's calling out of NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will end up costing New York the 2014 Super Bowl.
My take: Woody is acting like a petulant child. In the end, what difference does the opener really make? What really amazes me is that the two teams actually built this stadium together in the first place. This is probably only the first of many territorial fights between the franchises. - The Giants began off-season workouts Monday. The only thing anyone should really care about at this point is whether or not Osi Umenyiora showed up. Of course, there was no media access to players and the Giants aren't saying.
- Is FieldTurf, which is installed at the new Giants/Jets stadium safe? Study raises concerns.
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We will
know by Friday if Osi attended as there will be a leak somewhere.
If Osi had any sense he would turn up as he would be getting off on the wrong foot with Fewell from day one if he stayed away.
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 8:03 AM EDT reply actions
Dont wait til Friday
I will tell you now he was not there, Osi is still in Atlanta………but im not worried about who was not there forget him. I can tell you this Kiwi, Tuck, Canty, Coefield were all there and looking focused and determined so thats what counts. BTW hakeem looks a little slimmer and trim, he has probably been working on his speed, should be a great season for him.
But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!
Hmmm..that is not good..Get rid of him..Kiwi did just fine without him.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
He threatened to Retire!!!!!
If he isnt placed back into his starting roll, that is insane IMO, completely immature.
But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!
I don't think that is how he meant it
I think what he meant is that if he isn’t given the chance to fight for a starting job he will retire.
With athletes its hard to say exactly what they mean, we all know they aren’t the smartest guys on the planet.
I don’t think that any player really would be dumb enough to think that he will get a spot just because of his name.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 16, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Well...If he still thinks his shit doesn't stink..
And show up for training..then he is proving himself to be an idiot..If you want to vie for a starting job, you attend and participate in workouts..the big mouth won’t work..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
if i remember correctly
Steve Smith on one of his Facebook posts yesterday said he had a lot of fun with Eli, Antrell, and Canty in workouts yesterday..saying Canty is hungry. He also said he might take up acting next year because he forgot how hard squats were lol.
by RIPShea on Mar 16, 2010 8:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Honestly, I can’t fault Woody Johnson in the slightest. I agree that maybe it’s a stupid thing to be upset about, but both teams clearly wanted the opener, and a “secret coin flip” is no way to resolve anything. Imagine going to Vegas, putting $50K on black on the roulette wheel, and then they take the wheel into a private setting, return and say “You lost.”
The stadium is both of there's
And if he really wanted the opener then he would have built his own stadium, Giants were building a new one with or with out the Jets, The guy is acting like a little girl. It was his IDEA for the coin toss in the first place.
But the Jets announced on their website last night that the NFL had approved a plan – - their plan, apparently – - to flip a coin to break that stalemate.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2010/03/a-coin-flip-for-the-stadium-op.html#ixzz0iLMxaVXq
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
But the Jets announced on their website last night that the NFL had approved a plan – – their plan, apparently – – to flip a coin to break that stalemate.
I’m quite sure that plan didn’t call for the coin toss not to have witnesses. I couldn’t care any less either way, but looking at it from a purely objective standpoint I can totally see why Johnson would (and should) be irritated.
Pure objectivity is difficult
to achieve, even for a disinterested party. From an objective point of view, Goodell probably made a mistake in the way he handled this. His error, however, does not justify Johnson’s public attack. Leaving the keys in your car is a dumb mistake, but the thief is still not justified in his actions.
Its possible that Goodell believed the Giants should open due to being the senior franchise of the two. He may have had the mistaken idea that the coin toss would have the opposite effect in allowing Johnson to save face by declaring that the Jets lost to the toss of a coin versus being the “lesser” franchise. Objectively speaking, I think both Goodell and Johnson made a mistake on this one.
So
if the Jets have won the coin toss would Johnson have still ranted that it was unfair?
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
No
The Giants would have accepted the decision in good grace as would any team which had owners with long NFL histories.
Both teams lobbied and one team was going to be unhappy.
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s no way you can tell me the Giants wouldn’t have been irked if they lost a coin toss they didn’t witness.
I was pissed they even had a coin toss to decide it.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Irked yes
Public rant less likely.
After all the Jets played the last game at Giants Stadium and now want to open the new stadium as well!
Just been reading Kolb era has began – where do these people come from?
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The Jesters
The Jets go to one playoff game (have a Jets nation march before the deal of course) and now all of a sudden are making noise about wanting to host this opener! Give me a break.
Oh and now the coach is going to have surgery for his obesity? What the heck is going on you ask?
Woody is trying to rebuild the image of his franchise, problem is he’s trying to do it overnight, I get the push for the opener but come on, when it came time to announce PSL price he sure waited an awful long time (for the Giants to post their numbers).
Memo to Woody: Pay some more dues, build on your success (ie coach and QB) but stop the whining; win and everything else will take care of itself.
What is Woody's problem?
If he wanted to avoid this issue then he should of went in on his own and built the JEts as new stadium in Queens once the NYC deal fell through. Did he not realize when he partnered with the Giants that this might end up being an issue? The Giants were building this with or without him.
Second the Giants have sold their PSL’s and they are worth more money. So the Giants have contirbuted more to the costs of the stadium.
Woody should move the Jets to LA
Boom no more problems with being the second team hear in NY,
by Late for Dinner on Mar 16, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
My opinion..
Both teams jointly built the new stadium..I really can’t blame Johnson, although both he, Mara and Goodell should have met behind closed doors versus having it become a public specticle before the damn doors even open up..I would have preferred that the schedule was set up to have the Giants and Jets play each other to open up the new stadium, then they could jointly celebrate their new home just like they jointly had the damn thing built..A secret ‘coin flip’?..What a joke..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
sigh
what is everyone’s obsession with stating they should have played each other the first game
a) they do not play this year, the NFL was not going to change there entire schedule system to satisfy two of the thirty two teams
b) instead, one of the teams would be whining about having the first game at there new stadium be a road game, where they have to use the road this, road that etc
Well..
Think about it..The league if it had any foresight should have known that both teams would want to open the stadium..so, they could have sceduled them to play each other..and the league could have made it a ‘Home’ game for both teams, including joint 50 yardline monikers/logos and each team’s logos in the end-zones the Jets have theirs in one and we have ours in the other..The Jets sideline would be in their team decor and our side would be in our decor..What’s wrong with that?..This home versus road bullshit doesn’t make any sense either..Who cares about that?..They could both celebrate the opening event together…by playing each other with both teams colors..the fans would love it.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Oh and by the way, the schedule has not been cast in concrete yet..that is a work in progress.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
actually
the afc vs nfc matchups ARE cast in stone, they rotate every 4 years
and they cant both have it be a home game, its impossible. trust me, every other team in the league would care, because everyone gets 8 home, and 8 away, its how it works
by daddyzander on Mar 16, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I am saying that being designated the home or away team on a sheet of paper doesn't matter..what matters is they
open the stadium up together..and the league can change the rotation to make it happen…this is a unique situation having two teams share a new facility and consider it their home..The league can make it happen…and the other team owners would not have a problem with it.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
the schedules were voted on years in advance
and are on a strict rotation, ensuring that over an 8 year period, every team will play in every NFL city. They weren’t going to change that to satisfy two owners.
2009 Did Not Happen
They would've screwed over 30 other teams
if they just randomly decided to have the giants and jets play each other when they are not scheduled to do so
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 16, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand how 30 teams would have been screwed..
If they had the our guys play the Jets (who were a playoff game away from the big one)..What team would feel bad about not playing them this year?
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Because the whole schedule is connected.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 16, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
b/c the way the schedule is set up
makes it so that teams in the same division play pretty much the same schedule, with 2 games determined based on how you finished the year before. Swapping out any games for the sake of two teams would mess it up for everyone else.
2009 Did Not Happen
honestly
in this situation, I think both teams would want to be the away team. The “away” team would essentially be getting 9 home games. Yea, the stadium would be decked out in the other teams colors, and they’d have more fans there, but you’d get to sleep in your own beds for an extra week, you’d get to use your own locker room for an extra game (both teams have separate locker rooms), and I’m sure plenty of your own fans would find their way into the stadium, in the age of stub hub.
2009 Did Not Happen
by cjmulrain on Mar 16, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Congrats on getting the first game.
I’m glad you guys agree the “secret coin toss” is stupid.
and the home of the... JETS!!!
www.ganggreennation.com
Go, Pac, Go!
It is the dumbest thing I ever heard of..'secret coin toss'..unbelievable..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Except for constantly demonstrating one's ability to spell "Jets."
heh heh heh…
I left my swagger in my other pants.
...and further..they both could come out on the field from the home team tunnel..
Obviously one would have use the visitor locker room during the game, but both teams could run out onto the field together..both teams could run out and alternate the introductions..The Jets run out lined up on one side and the Giants on the other side..I would have a Jet announced then a Giant..have them meet in the middle and give each other a high-five and then move over to their respective teams group…That is how a joint home opener would be a major success with no hard feelings felt…that Stadium was built to be ‘home plate’ for both teams and they both deserve to celebrate its opening together.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Actually, both teams have their own "home" locker room in the new stadium
I believe Giants Stadium had both as well.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Yes that is right I amaze myself sometimes.."duh"..lol
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I think the secret coin toss was in response to the Jets press release
The commish is trying to let them know they need to shut up.
My prediction, sometime soon the NFL will decide something against the Jets. Mainly I feel bad for their fans, because this is one stupid thing to fight about.
I didn’t give a hoot about opening the Jerry Mahal, and I don’t care about opening this one.
Well..I am done belaboring this..
I love my Giants..but I think the Jets got screwed in this deal and the league could have done something to make it amicable for both teams somehow someway..Even if they had them both play the same day, 1pm and 4pm and have a mutual opening day event prior to them playing against whomever they will play against that same day..anything to make it fair for both teams..and dole out free tickets to Giants and Jets fans for the opening day games..I don’t blame Johnson for being pissed off..Frankly, I would be too..The Giants and Jets need to work together to jointly open that Stadium together somehow..and I am starting to think Goodell is a big asshole.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
You need at least a day
to change all the paint and the colors on the field.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Mar 16, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Well yes but they could paint joint colors for that day only..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
even if they did that
how would the fans of the team playing at 4pm get to the stadium? The parking lot would be completely full…imagine the nightmare traffic scenario that would cause.
Look, it would be nice if the Jets and Giants could both open the stadium, but it’s just not possible. Since the Jets got to close GIANTS Stadium, I think it’s only fair that the Giants get to open the new stadium. I don’t really get what the issue is, other than the Jets owner acting like a little child and Roger Goodell handling the situation poorly.
2009 Did Not Happen
That stadium is now the home field for the Jets and our Guys...
I maintain that they both deserve to open it up..somehow..this isn’t rocket science they should be able to figure that out..Give or sell half the tickets to each team…parking and traffic won’t be a problem and the fans see two games…It’s a special day for the two teams and they should equally enjoy it..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Which is the problem
the Jets don’t deserve to be on equal setting with the Giants, which is the biggest problem I had with the pairing to begin with.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Mar 18, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
To resolve this issue
maybe we could pull a Doc Holliday line from the movie Tombstone and have a spelling contest. Our best speller against yours. I think Eli could pull it off.
Um, not for nothing
But isn’t the first monday night game a good consolation prize for not opening the new stadium? I get it will be on cable, but aren’t the TV audiences for a Sunday afternoon game about the same as the Monday night game (or even less than a Monday night game)? It may be shady, but it’s not like they told the Jets they won’t play at home until week 3.
If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.
yes
the late sunday afternoon game is usually the highest rated game of the week depending on the matchup and who’s playing sunday night. The sunday night game is the primetime game of consequence that’s why woody’s pissed. MNF was the NFLs attempt to pacify woody and the jerks I mean jets. Still not a bad deal for them their home opening weekend like you pointed out.
by Landeta on Mar 16, 2010 1:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do the Jets ever stop crying?
I realize it’s difficult to share a home with a team that has actually tasted success in the last four decades, but jesus, shut up.
If anybody cared about them, they could have gotten a stadium built for themselves.
http://newyorksportsjerk.blogspot.com/
by New York Sports Jerk on Mar 16, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions
You said it Jerk
Woody had his chance for his own stadium years ago. He passed on it and is now bitching about his situation. What did he expect to happen? He wants out of the Giants shadow yet he decided to glom onto the Giants stadium deal instead of giving his fanbase their own stadium in a part of the metropolitan area in which their small fanbase is located. What a jerk
by Landeta on Mar 16, 2010 1:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is how it should be
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0903/top.covers.1980s/images/lawrence-taylor.jpg
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 16, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
Wow great find
Mark Gastineau should be in awe that he once got lumped into a SI cover with the great one.
im pretty sure osi trains in atlanta
i remember hearing that him and alford trained there together last offseason
also i saw his house once on cribs and thats one big house to live in for 2-3 months
The Giants open the stadium
for many reasons. The most important being that Wellington Mara created the NFL that exists today through his willingness to share his profits with the other owners for the good of the league. He was one of the most honorable men to walk this planet regardless of anything he did in the NFL. God bless his soul.
The Giants made the Meadowlnads what it is today.
Super Bowl win 86, 90, 07 and loss 00. They are there every decade.
NYG since 1925.
The Jets on other hand have an owner that questions the integrity of the comish.
He is livid about this situation a few short months after the death of his daughter, who he abandoned. Where are your priorities?
Their coach is a big fat loud mouth jerk who tells players on other teams I’ll kick your a$$, is on the front page of the paper with his middle finger up, and needs surgery to prevent him from stuffing enormous amounts of food down his gullet.
They let Jones go and bring in Cromartie.
Their fans chant for girls to show their tits and the game and start drunken brawls. A classless bunch.
Last but not least, they haven’t won a championship in 40 years.
That’s why the Giants open the new stadium. Any questions?
Wilba...You certainly make very good points here..
There is nobody on this planet with more class than the Giants (the Maras) and our players and coaches..and I had to grab my late Dad out of the way of two clowns fighting after the annual Giants/Jets pre-season game in ‘86..If one of them hit him (we were just walking down the ramp)..I would still be in jail for beating them to death..both of them assholes..Me and my Dad were just walking out of the stadium when this shit happened and my Dad almost got caught up in the crossfire..Being military, I caught it in the corner of my eye and yanked my Dad out of the way just in time..and one was a provoking Jet fan and an unfortunately asshole Giant fan..I grabbed my Dad by the collar and got him out of the way of these two morons. Jets fans pretty much suck elephant dick.
The only time I got pissed off was one time..I got in line to go to the boys room, and this scumbag came along and tried to push his way thru the line..So I grabbed his shoulder and told him to wait his turn..Well, he proceeded to grab my neck..So I beat the fucking shit out of him..The ’yellow jackets’ showed up and everyone who witnessed it stood up for me and they threw him out..Oh and yes..he pissed his pants…He was a Jets fan…judging by the jersey he was wearing..So, I went to the bathroom..I never got cheered for taking a leak, but I did that day..lol..So I go back to my seat..and my wife asked me: " What took so long?"..I just told her “Ah nothing, just a long line to the Mens room is all”
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Oh and by the way..my Wife is no dummy..She looked at me and then looked at my hands
She never said a word more, but she knew I was up to more than standing in line for the Men’s room..She knew something happened beyond going to the bathroom..but we never talked about it..If they threw me out..I would have had some explaining to do. I’ll never forget that look she gave me that day..It was one of those “Your a bullshit artist” looks
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Uh...
What does this have to do with anything, exactly?
by bleachercreatures on Mar 17, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, absolutely nothing..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I will just say this..I hate to see Giants and Jets fans fighting and acting belligerent...
We are all NY/Jersey people..There were guys on that line waiting and this hot shot decided to push thru and grabbed the wrong neck..mine..So I took care of that..It only takes a few assholes to place a stigma on an entire fan base..There are alot of Jet fans, Dallas, Eagle..on and on that are friends of mine..but you pepper in a few assholes and it produces a bad rep on everybody..So for all asshole fans out there in football land, leave the majority of us alone..stay home..tune the games in on TV..get drunk on your couches..and if you feel compelled to wanting to beat something, try beating your meat.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Human interest
My take is that we’re a community of Giants fans that now and then talk about other things. After so much talk about draft selections, who is better, who stinks, who is right, who is wrong, my eyes start to glaze over……then Bobbi steps in and I can sorta see again.
Posted wrong
meant for this to be a reply to bleachercreatures. …..I need more coffee.
Exactly Jolly..You are one of my favorite fellow fans to comment with..
I start to go nuts talking about the ‘what-ifs’, etc.. So I toss in a off-topic.. in some cases a non-sensicle joke or a real story now and then to break up my monotony and hopefully others in the process..I only have one more funny war story to toss in..there maybe some others I’ll think of, but the rest are not so funny..I won’t post those…there sure are alot of them..So after I decide to post my last funny story about Iraq..I’ll have to figure out how to out how to post
a laugh or two out here with other stuff..
Here’s one…Years ago I purchased one of those ‘Groucho Marx’ glasses..the one with the fake glasses, big nose, mustache..Well when I drive up I-95 and see a car with kids in the back..I fade back and put them on..then I creep back up and look at the kids with them on..they go crazy laughing and start tapping their parents shoulders pointing..but I fade back in time to take them off and when I pass them the parents are looking and I just wave..funnier than heck..One trip I played this game for an hour with kids in a car..They were laughing their behinds off..and the parents never knew..I’d just wave..“Hey”..My wife meanwhile, is in hysterics..to this day I still do it and she laughs her butt off..In between her laughter she utters:“Bobby stop that!!” then continues laughing her ass off..I tell her: “nope, you knew what you were getting when you married me”..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
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