With the first pick in the 2010 BBV Community Mock Draft, the Rams select ...
Sam Bradford, quarterback, Oklahoma.
Selecting for the Rams, 'Soldier_' writes:
It's time St. Louis take their franchise quarterback. They have passed on three different franchise QBs in the latest four drafts. First on Jay Cutler in 2006, then on Matt Ryan in 2008 and last year they passed on Mark Sanchez.
Steve Spagnuolo is a defensive mind. But we all watched closely how Spagnuolo won a Super Bowl with a group effort on defense. He created dominant forces all over the place with his pressure schemes.
Eventually he can do the same in St Louis because there is depth and value available in the later rounds of this year's draft.
There isn't however a franchise QB available in those rounds.
I know there are questions about Bradford's health and his durability. But weren't the same concerns spoken about Adrian Peterson when he came out?
We all know how that move played out.
St Louis has to pull the trigger on a franchise QB if they want to start winning soon.
My take: This is a logical choice for the Rams, and probably the likely one. I also believe it is the wrong one. As 'Soldier_' points out the Rams probably should have taken a first-round quarterback in one of the recent drafts. They need one, yes, but I am afraid hitching their fortunes to Bradford's very fragile star will end up shattering Spagnuolo's tenure in St. Louis. This pick just compounds the fact that they made a mistake in recent seasons.
| Pos | Team | Player | Pos | School | Drafter |
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| 1 | St. Louis | Sam Bradford | QB | Oklahoma | Soldier_ |
| 2 | Detroit | soulpower |
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| 3 | Tampa Bay | i_formation27 | |||
| 4 | Washington | G Fan in England |
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| 5 | Kansas City | ronjohnson | |||
| 6 | Seattle | CCE718 | |||
| 7 | Cleveland | GreatGatsby | |||
| 8 | Oakland | Hoyadestroya85 | |||
| 9 | Buffalo | The Greek | |||
| 10 | Jacksonville | jp2y | |||
| 11 | Denver | NYG_Slater | |||
| 12 | Miami | sunlion333 | |||
| 13 | San Francisco | RIPShea | |||
| 14 | Seattle | CCE718 | |||
| 15 | N.Y. Giants | Ed Valentine | |||
| 16 | Tennessee | Jason?? | |||
| 17 | San Francisco | RIPShea | |||
| 18 | Pittsburgh | ross_stephen | |||
| 19 | Atlanta | daddyzander | |||
| 20 | Houston | BitterEli | |||
| 21 | Cincinnati | Woogie526 | |||
| 22 | New England | Ryan Valentine | |||
| 23 | Green Bay | Dan Luibil | |||
| 24 | Philadelphia | Bye Dawk | |||
| 25 | Baltimore | Larry Soprano | |||
| 26 | Arizona | Snipah | |||
| 27 | Dallas | pataroons | |||
| 28 | San Diego | hakeemthedream | |||
| 29 | N.Y. Jets | Brooklyn58 | |||
| 30 | Minnesota | hurikaine | |||
| 31 | Indianapolis | Charles L. | |||
| 32 | New Orleans | GiantsReignSupreme |
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Comments
I hope
this does not become a tease event!
Have you the Lions and Buccs picks? If so I am ready to roll…
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 6:10 AM EDT reply actions
As for the pick itself
It is a safe choice for a team that needs a QB.
You can win with strong defence but you still need above average QB play and the Rams do not have anyone who can even do that.
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 6:27 AM EDT reply actions
Finally
as it is a long way until the start of the 2010 season it would be nice, if it was done in good taste, to have some cheerleader reaction to the picks….
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 6:38 AM EDT reply actions
Sorry
I live halfway around the world. Pick #2 is in with explanation.
Please don’t tear me up too much.
Probably won’t need to though.
SP
NYジャイアンツ頑張れ!
can you
announce before Ed just like the real draft with ESPN announcing the pick before Roger got to the podium!
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Ed
Only joking – but it will be interesting if someone like Free tries to guess the pick before the announcement and then comments after the announcement!
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
surprised he isn't participating
Co-Leader of the annual 7 round live mock draft at MtD
by TheAngelsColts on Mar 16, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
No
Provided I get the picks in, there should be 3-4 each day. I will post the picks with explanations one at a time.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 16, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
What?
Little confused, 3-4 picks per day, I thought this was going to be done today?
by Great Gatsby on Mar 16, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
How?
There is no way to get 32 picks, with explanations, in one day. People are scattered all over the globe, have jobs, etc. We will get a few in each day and move as quickly as we can.
by Ed Valentine on Mar 16, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OK Ed...
I was thinking like a “regular” draft, 15 minutes in Rd. 1, 10 minutes in Rd. 2, but we are doing it by e-mail, is the 2nd pick in yet?
by Great Gatsby on Mar 16, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Loads of Value
Really, there is a lot of value in the 33rd pick.
1) the draft is DEEP. 2) since the 2nd round wlll be on the following day, every team will be looking to trade up for a guy they felt should be in round two. I know this Mock does not allow trades, but I think there is no way STL picks at #33. They will trade back and get additional picks and make this a successful draft.
I agree
and to a certain extent that will apply to the first pick in the 3rd round.
They could easily pick up an extra four picks/players by trading the 33rd and 65th picks to revamp the roster so taking a QB now is the right and logical choice.
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions
In previous years...
They used to do round 1-2-3 on Saturday, so the 1st pick in the 4th roud was important. Last year it was 1-2 on Saturday, so 1st pick in the 3rd round was gold. This year, it’s round 1 on Thursday, then 2-3 on Friday, the 4-7 on Saturday.
So, 1st pick in Round 2 and 4 are the golden picks.
by ross_stephen on Mar 16, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
I guess the 97th pick will not be a s valuable!
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't like this pick at all
I’m not criticizing you, soldier, b/c I think this is what the Rams are going to do, but I think it’s a bad pick.
I just don’t think Bradford is anywhere close to a #1 overall talent, even if he was completely healthy last year. I think Clausen is a much more physically talented player. Bradford comes from a system that has struggled to produce NFL quality QB’s, he has questionable arm strength, and he missed almost all of last season with a shoulder injury.
I know it’s a deep defensive draft, but it also features possibly the best defensive prospect of the decade. I just don’t think you should pass up a talent like Suh for a question mark like Bradford. It’s the Rams own fault for screwing up the last 4 drafts, I guess.
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I agree with you on the QB part
Bradford comes from an offense that had a coloring book as the playbook and didn’t make any NFL reads on his own. Clausen has been in a pro style offense since his freshman year.
Disagree on the Big Suh thing. The Rams will continue to be a joke if they pass on a QB….AGAIN.
Sanchez, Matt Ryan, Jay Cutler. That’s who they passed on for Jason Smith, Chris Long and Tye Hill (the “safe” picks at the time).
If they were in the Lions position, with say..Sanchez as their QB…then Suh or maybe Berry is obvious.
And the “wait till next year, its a good QB class” thing holds no weight either (I’ve heard this dribble said too)…because this years draft was supposed to be better. You keep waiting…you’ll still be waiting
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree about this years QB class being good
but not good enough to justify wasting the #1 pick. To be honest, if I were the Rams I’d do just about anything to trade back a few spots. There’s gotta be a good team for whom Suh could be the difference maker in the next year who would be willing to jump up and take him.
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If...
Bradford came out last year, the consensus was, he would have been the first pick?
He gambled and go hurt, but I don’t think a team with A.J. “Touchy” Feely and Marc Bulger
(who is out the door if Bradford goes here) have to look to the future at QB.
by Great Gatsby on Mar 16, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I Agree
Bradford is not the best choice at the nr1 spot this year.
However i feel the Quarterback position is of much more importance than the Defensive Tackle position.
Especially on a losing team who is trying to reinvent itself.
They need a spark to start everything off.
They need hope someone is going to lead their team to glory.
Suh is a hell of a good football player but he cant win a game with 0.30 seconds to go and 7 points down.
- Look Closer -
That'd be ideal
I’d even take a bit less then the overal value, like the Bucs 1st and 3rd or something like that.
Matt Stafford was the #1 overall last year, and he’s not as good a prospect as Clausen either. He seems like a franchise QB.
But yea, given the next 2 teams don’t want a QB they should try to trade back. But easier said then done (especially if the Rams are being stingy about it)
Master of the squeegee
I don't think they'll find a trade partner
and Washington is a ? as to whether they will take a QB. We know that one of Seattle’s picks willl be a QB if one of the top two are available, so who is going to give up what it would take to deal with the Rams and then pay a #1 overall pick the $40M guaranteed that the pick demands?
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I think that Browns are making noise already
Holmgren has dealt both QBs and has said he likes Bradford
by giantblue63 on Mar 16, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I think "The Big Show" is smarter than that.
He’ll bring in someone to groom, I’m sure, but he won’t move up. They could possibly get one of the two right where they’re sitting, but with their needs and the pile of talent sitting there makes me lean the other way.
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I'm just reporting what they are saying
Could just be Holmgren stirring the pot
by giantblue63 on Mar 16, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Earlier on they were saying that the Browns were shopping their pick
so…..let the smokescreens begin!
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If they...
“My team” trades up, I think it will be with the Bucs, the Bucs aren’t going to draft a QB, and paying the first pick is expensive for a team with a lot of needs.
by Great Gatsby on Mar 16, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
QBs always go higher than deserved
It’s the nature of the league. The position is so important that you are going to have to overvalue whoever is there when you are in need of a QB.
This is one of the no brainer picks in the top 10
I’m amazed at the amount of criticism over this pick. Bradford would have been the consensus number one pick if he came out last year and people are offering Clausen as the better pick? Sure Clausen is the most NFL ready at the moment, but he has alot less upside than Bradford. We have yet to see Stafford play unmolested, so saying Clausen is better is premature and just not right.There’s also Sanchez to consider here before anyone crowns King Clausen.
Yes this is all opinion, but let’s be realistic. You don’s pass on a franchise QB when you have a lineup like the Rams, especially when it’s the first couple of years in a new HC’s tenure. Ed, you said this could end Spags in St. Louis? Not taking Bradford would more likely derail him sooner.
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You have to admit a QB with a twice seperated throwing shoulder is a big risk
He also has the stain of the spread. So many college spread QBs don’t make the jump.
I think the best move is to trade down. This franchise needs so much help one player won’t make the difference. Way less talent here than on Atl pre Ryan.
But if they don’t trade down its a good pick
But with Cleveland chattering up Bradford and trading away QBs I expect a trade
by giantblue63 on Mar 16, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
My experience with shoulder surgeries
is that the joint gets stronger, post- procedure. Also, didn’t he play half under center, half shotgun?
Were also talking pro talent evaluators, and if they’re projecting him that high, he’s shown enough to grade him there.
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Are you actually going to put a Raiders first round pick up to make a point?
Bleeding Blue since 1962
ok, ok fine

Those are just the two best examples, but there are plenty of others.
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I never said they don't get it wrong, but
I certainly didn’t like either one of those picks. In fact, there isn’t a more bust-prone position in the game. There’s definitely a gamble involved, but one most GM’s will take, given the potential payoff.
Hey, I don’t make the rules. I just know what they are. The #1 pick gets the most hype for a reason, but there’s never been a GM that hasn’t kicked himself for passing on a Joe Flacco type when they pan out.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
DT's in the top 10 bust more then QB's.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
There's usually alot more RD. 1 DT's than QB's
I’m sure the ratios are similar, but, with the importance of the position, the term “bust” is probably more relative.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Was talking about top 10
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Bradford is as good a prospect as Alex Smith.
Coming from that Big 12 style offense, he’s gotta sit for a while…which if drafted, he probably will not.
I don’t get this BS that Clausen has less potential either, I think he’s got more and he’s pro ready.
The Rams will be making a mistake going with Bradford over Clausen..if that’s what they do (they’re the Rams, so they probably take Bradford)
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No one is saying Clausen has less potential, just less upside
You’re already seeing pretty much what you’re getting with Clausen, he’s more developed in the pro style. Bradford is more of a question mark, making him more of a risk, but possibly more of a reward as well. Based on raw talent, I see Bradford as the better prospect, but not by a huge margin.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
I got their potential (since when is potential not upside?) as equal at least
probably favoring Clausen, better instincts. You;re groomed in a pro style, you’ll know what to do in a pro style.
Clausen’s got a stronger arm and is more accurate.
Bradford is highly boom or bust…but the boom is the same as Clausen. I wouldn’t risk that.
Plus Clausen’s dealt with all the BS in South Bend (and had a great season last year playing with a debilitating injury…just like Eli did). He’s dealt with more adversity.
I don’t see a single reason why Bradford is this high. Last year..I didn’t see it either (I’d a taken Stafford and Sanchez over him too).
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he a leader?
The question I have with Clausen is whether or not he is a leader of men. Granted I have the same questions about Bradford, but Clausen somewhat oozes that sense of entitled high school QB star rather than the true leader you need. I’ve never met the kid so I could be way off base, that is just the impression you get from what is available for info.
I get the sense he's a Phillip Rivers type leader
not a Ryan Leaf type.
He may come off as annoying, but given the pounding he took at times at ND (…there’s another thing taht makes him a very good to great prospect…he’s tough, unlike Bradford…kinda like #10, you don’t expect it either).
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Bradford would be a wise choice for them..
I don’t consider Ryan, Cutler or Sanchez ‘Franchise’ QBs..Sanchez is going to get himself hurt..He plays recklessly..The other two are pretty much has beens already.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Cmon, Ryan looked awfully good without Turner in the lineup against Giants last year
by giantblue63 on Mar 16, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Well everybody looked good against us last year..So I am
Not going to use our teams lack of performance as a barometer on Ryan..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I have always thought
Drafting a QB when he has absolutely no help is a terrible idea. Unless the Rams plan to sit him for a year or two, until they get some talent, this is a bad idea. The Rams need to pick the best player in the draft #1, and that is NOT Sam Bradford.
by mypisceannature on Mar 16, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions
Its too bad for Rams they didn't trade with Jets last year
Though I like Clausen better, its hard to argue with Bradford in terms of what he brings to the table
Mike Oher ended up on the board at 17 and would have helped them day 1
The other pick could have brought in a RB to let them deal JAckson, he probably would bring back a #1 plus in this draft.
You could have filled a lot of holes in 2 years, instead of hoping that you draft the next Orlando Pace.
Why even think of trading Jackson after a 1,400 yd season?
I would presume they want to improve, not deconstruct what already works.
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Because I figure he has 2-3 good years left
And I think that without trading, they don’t compete for at least 2 years
So Jackson will break down and need to be replaced right when they may have enough talent to challenge for the playoffs.
Now if they think that the players on their defense are about to step up, and the young OL are ready to step up, it would be a bad move.
by giantblue63 on Mar 16, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
So, then you have a very, very good running back for another 2-3 years.
Exactly what you want in place when you have a new QB is a good RB to take the pressure off and provide good blitz pick up.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
I'm not the Rams GM
And I am not versed in the true state of their OL. But that is what it boils down to.
They just signed Fraley to play C, but it depends on what you think of Barron, Smith, Goldberg and the rest. If you think they need to replace a bunch of them, it won’t matter who the QB is.
by giantblue63 on Mar 16, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's talk logic, here
Quarterback is the most important position in the game of football.
You draft in round 1 to help you win, now, unless it’s a franchise QB. All agreed?
You’re only in the top of the first round if you have a lousy season in the previous year. Ok?
Most franchise QB’s go in the top of Rd. 1. Stilll with me?
Consecutive losing seasons can cost you your job. No argument?
Unless you want to lose your job, you don’t plan on picking this high again, so you take the opportunity to draft from the cream of the crop of players in the most important position, unless, of course, that player is already on your roster.
Does anyone see that player currently on the Rams roster?
Unless the Rams can trade for a Kevin Kolb, or other “field tested” prospect, this is the logical choice.
Those who say you don’t draft the QB until he has the team around him are building the cart before the horse is even born. You get the franchise player and build the team around him.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
agreed on all points...but:
Sam Bradford is not a franchise QB. He’s Matt Leinart 2.0, except Leinart was never hurt in college.
Honestly, I think the injury almost helped Bradford in a weird way. Instead of scouts pouring over his game all last year and realizing he wasn’t nearly as good as they seem to think he is (ala Leinart in his senior year), he gets hurt and all the scouts can say “well, we thought he was pretty good as a junior, and he’ll probably recover from the injury, so, yea let’s take him #1.”
I’m looking forward to this pick being a complete bust, though, so we can have Spags back as our DC
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I agree with sunlions logic
but I’m not sure any QB can turn that mess around, so if Spags job is really on the line, he’ll have to do it turning the defense around, so that they can play tight ball control offense.
If the Rams pick Bradford, its a major vote of confidence in their OL. Because one thing I think we all agree on, Bradford isn’t mobile enough to survive behind a swiss cheese line
by giantblue63 on Mar 16, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
the thing with Bradford
I liked him a lot as a college player, but he just has too many drawbacks for me to accept him as the #1 overall pick. The arm strength, the college system he played in which has historically not transitioned QB’s well to the NFL, the shoulder injuries & the fact that he’ll be behind an awful OL in StL, and the fact that he really just didn’t play enough games in college. We’re talking about a guy who played less than 30 college games – for developmental purposes, he’s basically a college sophomore. I can’t find it right now, but I remember reading somewhat recently that generally speaking, the best pro QB’s are guys who played a lot of college games. Seniors are usually better than juniors who are almost always better than redshirt sophomores.
It’s not that I don’t think Bradford has the potential to be the best QB in this draft. It’s just that I don’t think he’s anywhere close to a safe enough bet to take with the first pick. If you absolutely had to take a QB, I’d much rather have Clausen.
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We'll all know alot more after the 29th
I know that alot of the speculation stems from the injury. He’ll throw for the peanut gallery in a couple weeks and there will be a love fest of sorts.
Where I think this kid won the personnel people over was in the interviews. They will always put College QB’s, especially those who played in the spread, on the board to test their football IQ. I heard that there was nothing they threw at him that he didn’t impress them with his response.
There is no way on earth that Jamarcus Russell had the same type of effect on scouts or coaches, GM’s etc.
It’s almost moot, though. The BBV pick is in and this will most likely be the Rams pick.
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2.0 version..
Does he have a hot tub, and plenty of co-eds frolicking around too? Now that would make him the 2.0 version, but not on a football field, more skills I say.
by Great Gatsby on Mar 16, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder what
the % agreeing with the Eagles pick will be – unless of course you pick Mays…
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Ed...
Suggestion #2, just a suggestion mind you, if you do this sort of thing again, maybe people should be within at least a 5 hour time zone of E.S.T.?
by Great Gatsby on Mar 16, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Well bottom-line the Rams need a QB, so they are going to have to draft one..
and to be honest, other than Bradford and Tebow..I am not sure who is a quality prospect..Now y’all are going to beat me up on Tebow..but in his defense there is another guy who got bad marks on his release mechanics..His name is Phillip Rivers.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
If Tebow can get it together, and I think he can
you won’t find a more competitive athlete with the tools and measurables that are off the chart. He is, simply, a winner. As Neon Deion says, “I can work with that”.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Gee
All this over the first pick – we have another 63 to go including 2 for the Giants!
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
I could see Ed just posting his pick, then at the bottom
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
or
any negative comments will see the poster banned from BBV!
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I have the horrible feeling that Bradford will bust
and it will probably cost Spags his job. I really hope they go with Clausen if they MUST get a QB he is better all around. 28 TD’s and 4 INT’s in college last year. From a pro-style offense….. What more can you ask for? That he is not a leader? That is BS – if he wins you games nobody will give a crap what he does in his free time as long as he isn’t out raping girls like the guy up in Pittsburgh.
Get Clausen, give him some good receivers and built a quality Oline in front of him. Worry about defense after that
by mclaren_is_the_best on Mar 16, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions
^this
we can agre on.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He'd be a good choice..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I think Soldier_ made the pick the Rams are telegraphing...
but I’d be taking to EVERYONE about trading the pick, either to trade down and pick up picks, or for a talent package including a quarterback upgrade before I made Bradford the #1 pick. The Rams are the only chance Bradford is #1, or #2, or #3, or #4 and on for a bit I think.
Well your right and I'm sure that those discussions will happen..but Spags needs a QB
In there somewhere..I bet he grabs Tebow..in a lower round and gets his defense fixed with the early rounds.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
He could..
also go at #4 or #6 too, I think?
by Great Gatsby on Mar 16, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I'm thinking Tebow will go in the 4th 5th or 6th
And I think he has game in him..regardless of what the so-called experts are saying.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I doubt he gets past the 3rd round. The star factor alone
would make it impossible for Al Davis to pass on him 3 times.
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