Jerry Reese drops some knowledge about the Giants' plan for 2010
New York Giants General Manager Jerry Reese spoke to the media Saturday at the NFL Scouting Combine. Mike Garafolo has a pair of reports on Reese's remarks.
MG has some of JR's thoughts on free agency. He also has JR talking about lots of other things. Read both reports -- they are very enlightening.
Here are the five biggest things I learned.
- The Giants will give Will Beatty every opportunity to win the left tackle job in training camp. And that may not be the only change on the offensive line. Said Reese: "We think Beatty has a left-tackle skill set. ... There will be some competition at that left tackle spot for us."
- Rocky Bernard has joined the Giants 'Torn Labrum Society,' recently undergoing surgery for his. There were whispers last season that Bernard was playing with an undisclosed injury. He joins Justin Tuck and Madison Hedgecock in having played through that injury. Knowing that now, I'm inclined to cut Bernard more slack for his disappointing 2009.
- Reese and the Giants will not be afraid to spend in free agency -- especially for defensive help.Said Reese "I think there are some holes we need to fill ... we’re still going to try to go out and fill some spots."
- Safety Michael Johnson is clearly in jeopardy of losing his job. Said Reese: "He has to play better. For a young guy you think is ascending, he has to play better and we expect him to play better."
- Reese is planning to proceed through the off-season as though Kenny Phillips cannot be counted on in 2010.
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I thought all injuries had to be reported
by giant fan since 57 on Feb 28, 2010 7:53 AM EST reply actions
Yeah I thought so too..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Ed you are dedicated. A post by 7:00 am in Sunday. I give no pass to rocky Bernard. He needs to go. Hope we don’t over spend for dansby. He is an upgrade over goff and Pierce but not for 30 mil guaranteed. That’s the number I heard he wants. Darren sharper would be nice. I think most of us are happy he is proceeding as if kp is unavailable fir this year.
by Giants56 on Feb 28, 2010 8:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Don't give Ed too much credit..
I am up everyday at 4am..I get my coffee and then after reading the paper, I have to sit here and wait for Ed to wake up and write something to comment on..Ed you gotta get up earlier !!..haha…I call in for a tee-time and ask them..Sunrise please.They all know that act..I really just have to say my name anymore..and they tell me 6:25 Bob, etc..Thank God my wife knows I’m a nut..She just comes downstairs, sees me all dressed and shakes her head..It is frustrating that I have to wait on Golf days until I get home to post out here because Ed doesn’t wake up in time…lol
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I have an ongoing issue with the paper guy..
The SOB keeps tossing the paper in the damn drainage ditch..Every morning if you were living here you’d see me pulling a ‘Randy Quaid’ on that guy..I feel like a damn QB Coach..My driveway is 25 feet wide..and the idiot can’t hit it with a damn newspaper..Sometimes I am out there waiting for it..I holler: “Try hitting the GD driveway, throw the damn paper!!..on the driveway you idiot!!”..then the SOB has the audacity to send me damn Christmas card with his address on it looking for a tip..Last Christmas I bought the fool a Christmas card..and in it I wrote: “Here’s a tip..throw the paper on my driveway, it is easy, it is 25 feet wide..you can hit it in the dark with your eyes closed..I want to read my paper, not do paper mache projects with it.. throw the paper on the driveway so it is dry and I can read it with my coffee and stop ruining my life”..Well, the ‘paper-lady’ stopped by one day, I’m not sure what her role was, but I assumed she must have been some sort of a ‘paper-tossing’ supervisor..Well she pulls in and measures the width of my driveway..and apologized for this idiot not hitting the driveway with the damn newspaper..She literally took out a tape measure !!..I thought Rod Serling was going to show up:“You’ve just entered the Newspaper Twilight Zone”..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Wow...
Rocky….uh, damn? I’ll give him a pass for that somewhat…he’s still gotta prove himself as much as possible in the offseason.
Master of the squeegee
Westbrook?
ESPN.com is saying Michael Westbrook to the Giants as a very strong possibility.
Nothing Is Fool proof if you have the right fools.
Westbrook and the Giants
Only if the Giants pay him peanuts he is injured goods.
by jerseyjoehaven on Mar 1, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Reading too much into that
They said “The Newark Star-Ledger’s Mike Garafolo has an interesting thought: why don’t the New York Giants take a look at Westbrook?”
That is MG advocating … not the Giants saying they are interested.
Although, you never know.
Any thoughts on Thomas Jones?
Jets might cut him to avoid paying his 3 million roster bonus. What do ya think? I think we could have a legit three headed monster again if we were to sign him. He can def play but maybe he will ask for too much money.
Any thoughts?
Yes.
I’d get Thomas Jones. He seems to be the rare, Tiki’ish type to be getting better as he goes along.
He won’t have to tote the rock 330+ times with the Giants either. Definitely..if he’s out there, he’s one of my main targets.
JR can talk about spending money for the D all he wants…the fact is the Giants RB’s, the top 2…are both unreliable.
Jones could mix in well and he also could be the main guy when (not if…WHEN) Jacobs and Bradshaw get hurt)
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 28, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Thomas Jones and the Giants
Do you really think the Giants will pay what Jones is worth when Ward left for $4 million a year and could not get that from the Giants. Only way is if they drop Jacobs.
by jerseyjoehaven on Mar 1, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I understand
But you can’t plan for the unexpected. Your telling my that if TJ becomes available JR won’t consider it? There are question marks with everyone at RB.
RB ************* Money
JR won’t consider it unless he drops Jacobs from the team. Remember Ward over 1000 yards wanted a raise and got it from another team.
by jerseyjoehaven on Mar 1, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yes that is what I think came out loud and clear...not a surprise though...
But alot of these defensive FAs are going to be looking for huge paydays i.e. Dansby…He is looking for 30 mil guaranteed..and the same for everyone else they are going to be a hard hit to the cash register.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I'm not a fan of the Dansby signing
Def an upgrade but he is not the answer. The money he is commanding doesn’t make it worth it to me.
I am not either just an example
of what these players are going to ask for..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Dansby and the Giants
I am not sure its a total fit for the Giants. Dansby is a good player not great and for $30 million I would want better than that. The Giants should go with D- Backs and D-Ends in free agency more of a need and better players / URFA at the positions.
by jerseyjoehaven on Mar 1, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Bernard's shoulder
I guess what has to be reported is the chance that someone won’t play.
The question remains – with all of the injuries, operations, etc., are there any DTs we can really count on for 2010?
As for spending in free agency – this is New York! We expect our teams to act like big-market teams, to be willing to spend money to improve, to use their economic muscle to the extent that they are allowed to. The fans will not accept anything else, and the Giants know it.
Mickey C
Giants free agent money
The free agents the Giants should go after are URFA that only cost money not draft picks. Sharper and Rolle come to mind as top targets. The Giants Should focus on D-Backs and 1 solid D-End in free agency. At least 3 DB’s need to be picked up so the Giants can focus the draft on DT, DE, ILB, OLB, OT, P/K. On top of all of this the Giants should trade Osi for a mid level 1st rounder and at least a 5th or 6th round pick. The Giants also can trade down the #15 pick to no lower than the #20 in the first round with added second or third round pick and still get Brian Price DT with 1st pick. The pick for Osi could get an OLB or DE or a player that can move between both positions. If the Giants don’t trade down maybe just maybe Rolando McClain drops to #15 and Giants can still pick Price with other 1st pick if Osi trade does happen. Outside of that Brandon Spikes will be available to the Giants in the second round. 4th round lock for Giants Jared Veldheer OT and later rould pick should be Zoltan Menhe P/K from Michagan. Two way Kicker with the strongest leg in the last 10 years out of college. **** Not sure of spelling of last name.
by jerseyjoehaven on Mar 1, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
I would take a look at Thomas jones. He cab still be productive if he doesn’t have to carry the ball 15 to 20 times a game for 16 weeks. He still gives u a good power back if/when bjac gets hurt.
by Giants56 on Feb 28, 2010 9:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Dunno
I would like to get a better look at Brown before I write him off and sign a FA.
BJ will come back reasonably well – AB too. Add Brown and I think you get RB production enough for Eli. Are there questions? Sure. But I would gamble that those three, all healthy are all you need.
Spend money and draft choices elsewhere
agreed
Plus Thomas Jones will command starters money and won’t get that here.
by wilddre22 on Feb 28, 2010 11:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Does anyone else see a trend?
I just read the article about the Jones being released. He is 31 and believes he can play 4-5 more years. Does every back over thirty think they can play 4-5 more years, seems to have become the cliche statement!
I agree also..
Surprided to learn about Bernard though..I hope this new-fangled scientific rocket science off-season training program works..I’d hate to see another year where our team looks like a MASH unit.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
ooops I meant "surprised"...lol
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I dunno
The only thing that would stop the G-men from being interested is if the pricetag is too high. Otherwise I would take a sure thing over our injury prone RB core any day…sorry folks thats how I feel about our RBs. There is def talent there, no doubt, but TJ is extremely versatile to dismiss. I am not confident in the BJ and AB sqaured will hold up.
Lastly, injuries aren’t new to Brown anyways. The guy has been injured throughout his collegiate career and the giants only took a chance on him because he has the potential to have big game talent…A LOT of teams passed on him because he is injury prone.
Bernard's injury is old news
I tried to bring it up on here and got challenged on it, so I dropped it rather than get into specifics and damage a friendship(source). This is also the reasoning behind my argument that we would be keeping Rocky while everybody on here wanted to drop him like an infected syringe.
This is a similar, if not identical, injury that plagued a few starteers, including Seubert, Hedgecock and Tuck. Also, if I remember correctly, Isn’t this similar to something that Cofield and Robbins were recovering from last season on top of the knee surgeries(and broken hands)?
So, really, there is less reason to be dumping what many have seen as “trash” and the problems with the running game, run defense and pass rush have largely been due to injuries. Even everybody’s favorite player to hate, Osi, had reasons(even though you never heard it as an excuse) behind limited performance. Some areas that have been thought of as huge needs will see a serious amount of relief through the recovery of players we already have.
As much as I’d like to see a man mountain picked up to shore up the run defense, our biggest needs appear to be MLB and S, in no particular order. The Phins are reportedly hot on Dansby and I’ve read that they’re keeping an eye on Rolle as well, so we may want to forget about those two UFA’s, even though I never really thought Dansby was a good fit. If we were to get a shot at Brackett and Sharper, Wilson or Clark I’d be pretty happy with going straght BPA in the draft as long as it’s not a position of abundance like WR or RB. I would, of course be happier with Demeco Ryans if we could get him for a #2, or even our #1 wouldn’t be prohibitive.
Well, back to watching the combine.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Well..
Very good points Sun..I honesty did not know about Bernards injury..So I still sway between we need a few fixes and a major overhall on defense…It looks like the Cards are going after keeping Rolle..and I could care less about Dansby quite frankly..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
i would rather have kept pierce than sign dansby.
The giants have had weak linebackers the last 2 or 3 years. Even when Pierce was solid, the rest was always we weakness.
Thats why we should draft MLB first round
Seal the deal! see what sintim and boley have, and maybe goff can be that rotation LB we need!
glad to see they are willing to spend
for a while i thought that last year’s flops may dissuade the Mara Fam. from spending any cash.
Spend wisely is all i can say… Brackett would be nice if possible… Dansby is an upgrade but not the answer. Rolle would be nice and is probably my favorirte option. as for a running back why not see what Tomlinson wants… he’s not what he was but he would be a nice addition who doesn’t who a cracked egg on his shoulders.
We should def. look to fill some holes w/ FA's...
we have so many holes to fill and the draft can’t do it all.Even if we sign either GB or KD we can still pickup an MLB in the draft,anywhere we want,but bwe won’t feel forced to.The same can be said for any position.I really want to see us have the flexibility to go for either side of the ball at any round.I really like going for ET or Trent Willams if he’s there
Eh
football is a physical game, at the end of the season almost no one is healthy. Bernard played terrible because he is terrible not because of some phantom injury
by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 28, 2010 1:28 PM EST reply actions
im gonna agree
Arent injuries a part of football? If you notice players only talk about injuries when they have off years. If jacobs had a 1000 yd season and averaged over 4 yds, would he have brought up his injuries.
Antonio Cromartie for Bradshaw?
anyone hear the rumors about a possible trade…antonio cromartie for ahmad bradshaw?
bradshaws too good
although injury prone hes the best running back we have right now, cromartie had one good season and then fell off completely
by GiantsReignSupreme on Feb 28, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
reese is a great gm
i think it is very smart of him to plan like kenny phillips isnt going to play next season. if reese is able to fill both safety spots and it turns out KP can play, that just adds more depth and talent to the team. however if he isnt ready to come back, the team will still be prepared to play without him.
by GiantsReignSupreme on Feb 28, 2010 5:47 PM EST reply actions
Spend on Defense!
Who here thinks our offense was a problem last season? The run game could certainly be better, but that can be fixed by slight adjustments to the O-line. Slight adjustments. In the meantime, Eli has been awesome and we haven’t needed a 200-yards-per-game running back to carry us to victory.
DEFENSE is the reason we weren’t competing last season. The money needs to go there first. I hope the powers that be realize that losing AP means there’s a huge OPPORTUNITY to bring in a big-time middle linebacker. For a defense that lacked heart all season, this seems to me like a GM’s dream. Reshape a defense that will be the pride of the NFC. This talk of trading Bradshaw seems ridiculous to me. Will Cromartie bring better results? Will it really matter if our D performs as ineptly as it did last season?
Trading Bradshaw
I would like to see where that came from. I haven’t seen it anywhere. Is it just some random fan message board/blogger throwing out the possibility? That’s what it sounds like to me.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 28, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN Insider and multiple websites
i subscribe to ESPN insider and it was underneath the rumor mill a few days ago….along with
http://poppickle.com/WebSite/Blog/2010/02/22/sports/football/antonio-cromartie-on-the-block/
and
http://giantsoutsider.com/new-york-giants/ny-giants-a-possible-landing-spot-for-cromartie/
by BigBadStrahan on Feb 28, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
This is some guy
just throwing out/making up stuff. Sure, the Giants might have interest in Cromartie. But, this guy is just speculating about possible trades.
Yeah its silly to change the offense
That was the best offense we have seen from the giants in years!! And half of the offense was injured including ELI!!! so spend on defense, that was the liability!!
Trading away Bradshaw would be nuts..
Where did that one come from?
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Brashaw
Im all for trading FreeBradshaw for Cromartie, not sure Cromartie will live up to FBs posting abilities but if we can clear FBs huge salary we will be in good shape for years to come!
All's Well that Fewell
I’d waive my no trade clause to go to San Diego too.
…it friggin cold up here.
Master of the squeegee
It would.
Tho…I dunno how long I’d last in San Diego. I’d be starting arguments on how the Chargers would be SB champs if they had Eli Manning on the team….
Master of the squeegee
"FreeCromartie?"
Nah. Doesn’t have that ring to it.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Mar 1, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I'm surprised that CC Brown isn't CC-ing the highway by now..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Wait a minute.
Is this really BBV?
Just back from Fla and the first posting by Ed I read, there’s no comments from FB.
What’s going on?
Has someone hijacked BBV?
Anyway, for me, JR’s comment re Kp, reinforces my belief that S is priority one.
Wait a minute George..You were down here in Florida and didn't get in touch?
For some Golf?..Man that is not right !!!
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
However..You'll be happy to know that our resident..
Scout..Free has been very active..while you were away…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Caught up at last.
Re Free: In the immortal words of Roseanne Roseannadiana—“Never mind.”
As for golf, I was in MB a bit, but mostly Key West. My wife convinced me finally to take one of those graybeard tours. Had a good time with some Korean War guys, including an ex Marine vet of the Choisin Reservoir, one of 16 in his company who survived. He lost 60 pounds during the 50 day retreat to the sea. The horrors of his stories (short rations,2 hrs sleep/night tops, Marines kicking and punching each other to stay awake to prevent freezing to death, Chinese grunts frozen to death in fox holes, stacked like cordwood, fire fights every day, etc., etc. ) made me damn glad I experienced the KW as a flyboy.
No golf, plus I don’t think I could have convinced the driver to make the necessary itinerary changes to make a hook-up possible (don’t play golf in any case.)
Had a good time, but I’m not sure I’d travel the same way again.
Glad to have you back..
Yeah that Korean conflict was a disaster..Fortunately, all I had to do was study it..Anyone on the ground during that one suffered a ‘no win nigthmare’. My almost eighteen year-old is talking about joining the Army…I guess I’ve reached the age where I am overly protective..I told him if he wants to do that then I will only accept the Air Force or the Coast Guard..I can’t fathom him on the ground over in those dumps we are currently fighting in. I couldn’t wait flying the hell home from Iraq in ’92..Good to hear you were down in the Keys..that is a nice place to visit..alot of great restaurants and the locals are about as laidback as they come..I always enjoy the drive down the most..It is a beautiful ride..I can only handle three or four days each time we go though..You can put alot of miles on your feet down there.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Benn to FLA a lot,
but never to the Keys. Loved them, particularly Key West. We’re thinking of living there aprt of the year. Have done some preliminary scouting in Boca and Tarpon Springs.
Well..
I’d shy away from Boca..alot of riff-raff there..Tarpon Springs is a nice spot..It is actually very nice here in Port St Lucie..but you need to decide whether you want to be on the East or West coast..We had a lot here so I decided to build a house..We live on the C-24 Canal, so I built a dock and we got a boat..I love it, I’ll get in that boat and either fish or take a cruise up the canal..It is a 25 mile ride to Lake Okeechobie (I can never spell that..lol)..Another nice thing about where we are is there is a state park across the canal from us..Nobody can build across from us..So I built a two-story..When you walk/climb up the stairs, you can walk straight into our Sports room/bar (my wife is a big sports memorabilia (can’t spell that either)..but it is all decorated with her collection and I built a bar up there..Funny thing is we hardly use it..except during football season..lol..from the barroom we can walk out onto a deck and sit and watch the boats go up and down the canal…Somedays, I’ll just sit out there for hours watching the boats and the fishermen..after 24 years in the service I finally found peace and quiet.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
why has everyone soured on dansby?
Is it the price tag? I agree that’s very hefty. But in my eyes he’s the best realistic fee agent available. Yes, I’m talking to you demyco/ruud guys lol. He’s better than brackett, a bigger playmaker.
I say if he’s asking that much, make our main target sharper then. I’d get him for 2 to 3 years, and with a (fingers crossed) healthy KP, were set at safety. Then build the LB core through the draft, I think we can forget about McClain, but maybe we can trade down and get spikes, and let him learn behind goff.
by wilddre22 on Mar 1, 2010 1:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Lets not forget that Giants typically get excellent progress from 2nd round picks
So plugging in a free agent in front of Sintim might have less impact than you think (ie Dansby plays well but not THAT much better than Sintim)
Its a risk reward thing, not a quality of player thing
i wouldn't sign dansby for the SAM
so Sintim is safe. i hear you free but dansby plays the inside of a 3-4. some of his duties are the same as a mike backer. he excels in coverage, but is lacking in run stopping, which would be a bit of a detriment. however, if we retool that front 4, that could help negate some of his deficiencies there. are you worried that he would not be the effective QB that AP was on the field? that is a warranted concern, and one i’m sure the Giants would look into before inking him to any deal. but for me, money is the only thing that would keep me from him, not what he used to be at AZ.
not much sense
Spikes is a physically comparable to Sintim, dansby is a 3-4 speed linebacker who would probably recieve some culture shock changing climates. Playing in the nice 75 degrees of AZ is alot different than the meadowlands!!! I am not sure the transition would be worth 30 million dollars. This draft is spilling over with defensive talent, and the giants need to strike while the iron is hot. Young good talent that we can build off of for the next 10 yrs!
Bernard!!
Rocky Bernard tore his labrum off the field before training camp, i think the Giants were disappointed in him after paying him and he was disappointed in himself so they kept it on the hush but he will be fine, i could clearly tell something was wrong all along. he will be a force nxt yr.
But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!
I hope your right..Blue..I can't knock a guy who as it turns out was hurt all year.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
gentlemen gentlemen
you win in the NFL for long stretches via the draft not free agency this was born out more than anything last year and as you’ll recall in our superbowl run in a positive way…you win by drafting quality guys continually. Other than DE and CB (and to some extent WR although we had a lot of misses) we really have had a quality dearth on D especially.
don’t put too much on FA. Reece comment or no, Dansby is the last guy I want to pay $30M for. DJ from the chiefs and some other understated guys is the way to get it going in FA.
I agree with the points you make..
Dansby is too expensive and not a good fit depending on which way Fewell decides to go..The best bet is the draft, always has been..If they can pepper in a free agent in certain spots, then that would be okay, but to pick up older players with 2011 being a question mark due to the lack of a CBA..I don’t see any sense at all in that.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Only the Giants know what the real deal is with our injured players..
So I waffle back and forth between the issues with our defense are we at risk with players that are hurt and won’t heal?..or Are we dealing with players that will come back healthy and raring to go?..That is a question the team already probably knows and that will be the determining factor on how much experience they feel they need to pick up and how much they are willing to spend for it…We have no deciding input or clue and just want a winner to root for…The good news is that they are bound and determined to fix what is broke…In years past, they didn’t take that approach…and we all watched the same ’ol shit.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

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