New York Giants notes: Alford, Westbrook, other stuff
A few notes relating to our New York Giants for you on a Friday morning.
- First, I hope you either listened in or have had a chance to hear the podcast of Thursday night's 'New York Giants Talk' I co-hosted with Patricia Traina of Inside Football. If you haven't, you can listen to the podcast at Blog Talk Radio.
- Nice story the other day by Michael Eisen of Giants.com about re-habbing defensive tackle Jay Alford. The Giants really missed Alford in 2009, and he missed them.
"When football is your life, basically, and when it gets taken away, you have no life," Alford said recently in the locker room at the Timex Performance Center, where he continues to work out regularly. "I missed everything about football - the locker room atmosphere, getting close to your teammates, practicing, games - all of it. When it's not there anymore, it's stinks.
"I haven't been so bored in my life than I was last season. I'm definitely looking forward to this year, because you just miss it, you miss it a lot. I'm definitely looking forward to getting back on the field." - Former Philadelphia star Brian Westbrook would look strange in a Giants uniform. He is, however, open to the possibility.
"At this point I am not sure where I will be at," Westbrook said on 97.5 in Philadelphia. "But I would be willing to go to any team that would have me, any team in search of a championship."
- ESPN's Matt Mosley recently assessed the draft needs of all of the NFC East teams. No surprises in his assessment of the Giants.
- The National Football Post reported Thursday that the Miami Dolphins are prepared to spend big money on free-agent middle linebacker Karlos Dansby. That would probably be bad news for the Giants.
- Want a good explanation of the various drill used at the NFL Scouting Combine, and what scouts and GMs hope to learn from them? At NFL.com, Mike Mayock has narrated a series of videos aimed at helping you understand just that. I still hate the Combine, but I did find them fascinating.
- Speaking of the Combine, Dave Goldberg of AOL Fanhouse reference ex-Giant William Joseph in agreeing with my point that teams rely too much on Combine workouts.
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Westbrook
I would welcome him with open arms, have always respected this guy. The best thing of it would be to get inside his head and see what it is the Eagles have on us… Also wouldn’t be a bad thing to see Westbrook scoring TDs against his old team while he is wearing a big blue helemet! I’m for it as always on the cheap(because of his age).
All's Well that Fewell
Haha, I think Antonio Pierce sees the back of Westbrook’s jersey in his sleep. I’m going to miss that matchup dearly.
Good call
I would hate to see pierce in the eagles uni but i could deal with it if he is still chasing down BW from behind lol!
All's Well that Fewell
That would be a bizzare turn of events!!..LOL!
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Your show
I listened to you and Patti Traina with great interest and wish the show had been longer.
I think my fellow bloggers would be interested in her comment that the Giants don’t draw up their draft board until right before the draft; I had been under the impression that many teams did it (or at least roughed it out) before the combine.
One question. You kept saying that she was “closer to the team” than you are. What is her relationship with the Giants?
Mickey C
Pat
is a ‘fully credentialed’ member of the media. She has practice, game and locker room access. I don’t. Thus, she has a personal relationship with a lot of these guys and their agents. That’s what I meant by that.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 26, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
Draft
I am guessing here, but I think what she means by that is this. I’m sure they have a rough idea right now, but they won’t etch it in stone until FA and all the private workouts are done.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 26, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Draft
Thanks. I was just thinking back to the post of a couple of days ago discussing the combine, when we talked in terms of the draft boards being 90% complete at this point. Waiting until April makes more sense – you have Combine results (it may not be overwhelmingly important, but it is information), pro day and private workout results, free agency results, and the latest medical reports on your own players.
Mickey C
Actually, there are several personnel people(scouts, etc.) with their own boards
they develop based on their own views and assigned players to cover. There is aometimes years of gathered info involved. The front office doesn’t get involved until after 4 things are accomplished. #1 Current Roster Free Agents’ dispositions are settled and the ones we’re keeping get signed. #2 The combine is completed. #3 Free Agency has been thoroughly reviewed and all transactions are completed. #4 The scouts meet with the Player Personnel Director and all of the individual boards are pared down and all the research is consolidiated into a coherent and cohesive manner. At this time the scouts can deliver their arguments to support their findings and streamline that to be efficient for JR and the Coaches to go through. All the film is collected and merged to form a comprehensive report.
What I’ve heard is that there is little to no conversation about future players, but there are requests by coaches and JR for info on certain players of interest during both the season and post season. Some of the players have been followed since high school. I’ve been told that thescouting staff is HUGE.
Now, I know of some DVD’s that have been seen on certain people’s desks, but I can’t get any answers as to what players are on them as their not labeled with names. I’ve gotten some “kinda maybes”, but that’s all.
Thay don’t put together a final board until the very last minute, after they’ve got an idea of what is going on with every aspect, including what they can glean from other teams’ staffs.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Massive money on Karlos Dansby could be a good thing
If they get Dansby and Denver trades away Marshall, that makes us the frontrunners for Rolando McClain, doesn’t it?
Of course, I’m not entirely convinced he’s a good fit for a 4-3… He seems to sort of lumber around. He’s almost TOO big…
Alford may break it out
this season and we’ll all be wondering why there was any worry about DT. Not excited about Westbrook’s availability, a luxury item for the defensive needy G-men.
Regarding teams relying on the combine, I think some of that ‘reliance’ is also a cover-my-rear maneuver…….“Well Boss, how was I to know the SOB couldn’t play football??? He had a vertical of 27 foot and run a 3.2 at the COMBINE!! Maybe we could train ’im to know WHEN to run and WHEN to jump?!?!?…….”
Colts will sign Brackett
to franchise $$$ without the tag. He will unfortunately not be available.
DT in the draft is a given but “where” is the question. If you think rounds 1-3 then you are assuming that only two of the Giants 3 DTs will play well in 2010. OR that a team needs four DTs to win. I am not sure on either.
I am optimistic that Canty, Alford and Cofield will all play well and that a DT is needed in the draft but not in rounds 1-3. Best available comes in to play of course but I would look at LB and at safety first – maybe even OT.
Westbrook...
…would be a nice addition in many ways. RBs get hurt. These guys take a beating. I believe we had 4 running in ‘07. Most forget about Droughns. That dude had some pop at the line and the only rb to play all 16 games. He also led the team with 6 rushing tds. I’m not saying BW is as tough as Droughns but he could be usefull. Guy has a good attitude. Rather him than LT but I wouldn’t be opposed to signing him either, though I doubt he is willing to take on this type of roll for a minimum payday.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Feb 26, 2010 10:21 AM EST reply actions
Of the three we talked about the other day..
I would go after Westbrook..LDT is burned out and Peppers is a head case..who only plays when he feels like it..Westbrook on the otherhand may have some fuel left in his tank..and it would be enjoyable watching him in our uniform beating the Eagles..but I must say I did vote against all three of them..Even though they are starting talks concerning a new CBA..2011 is still in doubt..So who wants to bring in older players this year?
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Yes he had two? I think concussions last year that they didn't do a very good
Job of bringing him back from..One more year in Philly and you’d hear the crowd chanting: “Run Forrest Run !!!”..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
how come the ny giants dont spend money like the knicks or yankees?
it is because they are prudent or that they really dont have that type of money? arent ny teams known for big bank rolls?
Because
there traditionally has been a salary cap. NFL teams can’t. Besides, the Redskins have proven that philosophy does not work in the NFL. Oh, and it doesn’t work for the Knicks either. Spend all the money you want, but when you don’t have a clue the cash doesn’t help.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 26, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I don't mind a team spending money
as long as they spend it wisely. The Lakers & Celtics spend money, but they spend it wisely. The Red Sox and Yankees spend money, but they spend it wisely. There’s nothing wrong with going out and spending a lot of money on a free agent or two (especially in this uncapped year), but they shouldn’t be spending money for spending’s sake, the way the Redskins always do.
2009 Did Not Happen
so is it safe for me to assume that the giants can outbid most nfl teams if they so choose?
by karamjitm9090 on Feb 26, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
The Giants have never been don't to have 'deep pockets'
In fact their two front pockets haves holes in them and they generally forget where they left their wallet..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
..hmmm another idiot phrase on my part..geez..I meant: "never have been known to have 'Deep Pockets'...
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Now this is not only a true comment..
But absolutely hilarious !!..Redskins and Knicks spending all that money for bombs that don’t detonate..haha..George S. has Alzhiemers and can pick and pay for winners..He doesn’t even know where the stadium is without help getting there yet he still pays for players that win..Plus he makes them get haircuts…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I would add that its harder to know how a football player will gel with the unit
unless you are talking All-Pro talent.
I remember that game against the Rams
i thought will joseph was gonna be the ish after seeing that sack. we were all over Kurt Warner that game, he seemed real old in that game. that’s why i wasn’t a fan of signing him after the Rams cut him, since that was the lasting impression of him. he was a decent Giant tho. But not Joseph.
Westbrook
He still as the legs in my opinion, at least from what I saw in that playoff game vs Dallas. He just needs to stay healthy
i wonder what kins of reception the philadelphia "faithful" would give brian if he came back with a nfc east rival
by karamjitm9090 on Feb 26, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah..it wouldn't be as cordial as Favres that is for sure..He'd have to dodge the D-cell batteries being tossed at him..lol
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
"at least from what I saw in that playoff game vs Dallas"
Really? Because he had zero carries and one reception in that game.

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