Daily NFL Draft Prospect Profile: Pat Angerer, MLB, Iowa
'Nfpdawg' called the other day for our New York Giants to take a look at Iowa middle linebacker Pat Angerer. So, let's do that ourselves as we continue our Daily NFL Draft Prospect Profiles.
There is a lot to like about Angerer as you consider players the Giants might take in the middle to late rounds.
He plays middle linebacker, a position of need for the Giants as we know. He is a solid tackler. He is a three-down linebacker with zone coverage ability. He is a guy who could be outstanding on coverage teams.
So, let's take a closer look at the Iowa senior.
Pat Angerer Scouting Reports
From Fantasy Football Toolbox.
Like many players coached by Kirk Ferentz, Angerer is a solid all around football player. Hawkeyes don't always look like stars, but NFL coaches know they know how to play the game. He's slightly undersized to play middle linebacker in the NFL, but makes up for this with great instincts. Angerer is one of those players who will find his way onto a team's roster one way or another. He is likely a fourth round selection, and would give a team a good young reserve (or possibly a starter) and likely an outstanding special teams contributor.
NFL Draft Scout sees Angerer as an underrated player.
One of the nation's top tacklers with 135 stops, Angerer flourished into a better college linebacker than anyone expected. Now the NFL is downplaying him, too, projecting him as no better than a fifth-round pick. At 6-foot-1 and 235 pounds, Angerer can get a little bigger, but he always seems to find his way around the ball.
From NEPatriotsDraft.com.
Angerer is a sure tackler with great instincts that will fall in the draft due to his size. Angerer fills holes incredibly well, and is able to shed blockers despite giving up 50+ pounds. Due to the Iowa defensive system (harldy any nickel/dime), Angerer rarely left the field in coverage, gaining great experience. Whichever NFL team gives him the chance, Angerer will make them happy.
Pros: Tackling, Motor, Instincts
Cons: Size
Verdict: 3rd-5th Round
From the National Football Post.
Angerer is very active inside the box. He isn't long-armed but displays a quick, compact punch which allows him to keep himself clean when working his way through traffic. He lacks ideal size and has a tendency to get washed out of plays away from his frame too easily, struggling to work sideline-to-sideline. Is the definition of a straight-line athlete, displays a good burst in pursuit and gets up to full speed quickly. Is a very sound tackler.
Possesses great instincts in the pass game and consistently gets good jumps on the ball by reading the quarterback's eyes. Displays natural ball skills and good hands when asked to go up and make a play on the ball. Overall, he's an instinctive, hard-nosed linebacker with impressive closing speed for the position. He lacks the ideal size, but he has a place in the NFL. Looks more like reserve middle linebacker/special teams guy than a starter.
Why Angerer fits with the Giants
He seems like a classic over-achiever. A guy who only needs a chance to show that he is better than people think. Obviously, no one is handing the middle linebacker job to Jonathan Goff, and Angerer might provide long-term competition. Besides which, I saw too many under-achieving Giants in 2009 -- including several linebackers. Plus, you can always find spots for solid players who are willing and able to make special teams contributions.
Why the Giants should pass
The Giants already have Chase Blackburn, and Angerer seems like the same type of player. Useful, but limited. A guy who you like having around, but you aren't thrilled about having to rely on. He's probably a decent choice if the Giants are just looking for depth and competition for Goff. If they are looking for an answer to their hunt for a dominant middle linebacker they better hope they find one long before Angerer is the best player available.
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Zach Thomas 2.0
And not because they’re both white. ;-) I watch a lot of Big Ten football as a Michigan fan. He’s the real deal. He’s not going to wow you with his athleticism but he’s always around the ball and he’s certainly smart.
We all kno size doesnt matter
Look at London Fletcher. That guy probably the most underrated MLB in the NFL. Guy Has close to 200 tackles a year, EVERY year. He is little and the guys is everywhere. Not that I would jump to conclusion and compare him to that. But Size is something that is sometimes not a necessary expectation.
size means nothing
if the guys got attitude, instincts, some speed, can hit like a truck and cover.. size doesnt mean anything.. i may be wrong but isnt gary brackett 6’0 230 something? We dont need huge slow linebackers ie Brandon Spikes (still wouldnt mind him tho). I like this guy as a late round pick.. i mean why not? if size is his only downfall he seems like a possible diamond in the rough
Is it baseball season yet??
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 25, 2010 11:07 AM EST reply actions
Tell that to Jimmy Johnson
He wouldn’t be doing EXTENZE commercials if he agreed with you.
How much money does anyone have to make before they decide they really don’t have to make commericials about their ED or the size of their johnson.
Jimmy Johnson doesn't need 'Extenze' look how stiff his damn hair is !!
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Wouldn't mind him
We most likely aren’t getting McClain. Might not take Spikes at 15, and who knows if he’ll be there at 46. If they are able to grab stud-ish S+DT in the 1st 2 rounds, Angerer might fit the bill in the 3rd or 4th. Competition is always good.
"I'm not a scratch golfer. I don't know how to bowl. I can't read the stock market. Hell, I have a hard time rememberingmy wife's cell phone number. But I can call 'Flip right double X jet 36 counter naked waggle at 7 X quarter' in my sleep" - Gruden
Rolle
I want to wait until after the Combine, to be honest. He is one of those guys who scouts and GMs just have not fully made up their minds about. Don’t worry, we have almost two months yet.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 25, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
This guy looks like Urlacher (Spelling suspect)..Doesn't he?
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Minus about 20lbs
"Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty."
by Mother Tucker on Feb 25, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
True..but if they sign him..He'll be able to eat more..That Dorm food sucks..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
He can take Pierce’s seat at the table.
AP’s gut says he was eating well.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 25, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Haha! yeah 'ol AP seemed to look well fed..I was fortunate enough to tour
The Giants cafeteria back in ’85..and the Golden Corral pales in comparison..Mark Bavaro for breakfast would fix up an entire box of Cheerios in a huge salad bowl and then go outside with it to eat alone..and that is just breakfast..These guys have voracious appetites..and the buffets they set out are mind-boggling.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Damn! Talk about a buffet....
everyone of these guys that Ed brings up, I want on the team. I’m the same way at a buffet in a Las Vegas casino…..guess that’s why I’m 5’10" and 220.
LOL!!..
I witnessed Jim Burt eat..this is no joke the equivalent of Four..Four Large Pizzas for lunch ! and the slices were loaded. I started to get queazy..I’m thinking to myself where the heck is he putting that !!..I was in the AF back then and they invited military guys in for a tour of the cafeteria for the day..and we ate with the players..I ate with Rob Carpenter and Hostetler..but I couldn’t stop looking over at Burt..Rob Carpenter is a great guy, and picked up on my looking and said: " Those guys can eat"..then I looked at what he was eating and said: “So can you guys”..“My problem is I need to make sure I can fit my butt in my plane”
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Let me qualify that..We were invited to have breakfast/lunch with the players..
We didn’t tour the cafeteria the whole day..We watched them practice all day.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Good story
Bobbi…..wish I could have seen that……
I'm telling ya you would not believe what these guys consume..
It is truly unbelievable..I’ll give y’all another funny non football story..We all can use a break…Back then I was fyling an F-4,(my first jet) and my Crew Chief wanted to get a chance to go up…Well being it was an F-4 it is a two seater me the pilot and the whizzo sat in the back and took care of radar and ordinance..So we suit this guy up sit him in the back seat, and I started taxiing..for takeoff..Well, my left engine flamed out so I calmly radioed in the “We’re not going to make it”..Well the guy went beserk…I won’t repeat what he said but it was funnier than shit..I calmy told him that I meant we were not going to be able to get airborne..not crash..He never asked for another ride (they don’t allow that anymore anyhow)..but I thought I was going to die laughing..When we taxied back in this guy couldn’t wait to get out..and never asked again for a ride..(again they don’t allow that anymore)
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I won't say his name..but he is a Giants fan..So he knows it..and I
know that he’ll know..He knows my real name..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Bobbi
I hearby nominate you as storyteller-in-council to the BBV, subject to the approval of Ed of course.
Haha!..I guess I feel honored Jolly..
But that was funny..I have more stories I can share..I’ll pepper them in during the off-season..because I quite frankly am running out of steam when it comes to potential draft picks for our Giants…and I’ll tell ya that Freebradshaw guy is incredible with his knowledge of potential candidates..very impressive..So I resort to tossing in a story here and there..that has nothing to do with football or the main purpose of this site which is Giants football..Now Ed was down this way a few weeks back and I was going to get us a tee-time to play a round of Golf..So he owes me..and he could then go home and tell you some stories about my Golf game..lol..He was too busy , so we will see maybe some other time…but he would definitely have some off-color humor describing his experience of playing 18 holes of Golf with me to share with you guys. I also invited George (Blue_Gonz) to drive the cart but I was afraid he’d be dipping into the beer cooler too much..haha
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Looking forward to the tales
It’s just another reason for my enjoyment of this site. Can’t believe I mis-spelled so badly….“HEARBY”???….afterall, I was second in the county spelling bee, 1959……the apex of my fame and glory.
You’re right about Free. He’s our encyclopedia.
Don't be concerned about "Hearby"..
I have lately developed a bad habit of mis-typing words..I post a comment and then look in shear wonder at what I typed..there I go again…Sheer not shear..Geezus…lol..but yes I’ll toss in a story here and there every now and then to break up the intensity of picking our future team…lol
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
dude the last thing you EVER want to hear a pilot say is
“we’re not going to make it”
I heard a comedian the other day say “People think they’re afraid of flying. But what they’re really afraid of is being 30,000 feet up and suddenly NOT flying. I think right about then, flying is what they want to do most.”
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 26, 2010 7:42 AM EST up reply actions
p.s. def. flying into So. Fla. March 11-14
email me philmedeiros@gmail.com so I have your email and I’ll drop you a line, maybe we can knock off a couple of beers while I’m around
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 26, 2010 7:44 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, Geez
You and Bobbi having beers together! Everybody in South Florida better lock their doors! LOL!!
by Ed Valentine on Feb 27, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
LOL!!!..You should have seen his eyeballs after I radioed that in to the tower!
He couldn’t get out of that plane fast enough..damn that was funny…then I later busted his chops by telling him: “Hey this is all your fault, your in charge of maintaining the damn plane !!”
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
i hope the rookies dont have to wait til after the o-line gets served
"Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty."
by Mother Tucker on Feb 25, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Angerer’s the man.
No..he’s not like Chase Blackburn. Angerer has a nose for the ball, is actually one of the more athletic MLB’s in the draft (40 times aren’t much, but I’ve seen he’s rumored to run under a 4.6. YOu aren’t Chase Blackburn if you run under a 4.6).
Dude’s a play maker. If he played at Ohio State….his name would be James Lauranitis and he’d be a 2nd round pick.
MLB’s who flat out make plays like this are exactly what the Giants need.
“Step up and make big plays” would approve of Pat Angerer.
Master of the squeegee
sounds like
a guy Fewell would love to have…I posted this previously but go to the Buffalo roster and all their LB’s are fairly athletic guys between 230-240, with one exception.
I’m thinking has no one learned a lesson from London Fletcher…
+1
I tell you this – if we don’t get him the ##$ing Patriots will. And they’ll turn him into something, too. I sure hope we trade down. We need extra mid-round picks.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
I dunno man, the Pats don’t need him.
If they’re going more 4-3 look, I think Sean Weatherspoon’s more likely. Maybe Brandon Spikes.
They do have Jerrod Mayo, who’s their Mike no matter what scheme they have.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 25, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently Ed's trying to be ironic today
with a name like Angerer, he finds the one picture where the dude’s smiling?
"Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty."
After 5 seasons we have seen the best of Chase Blackburn
I would like to see some new young guys moving in
Perhaps Washington and Angerer. or Spikes and Angerer
Clark, Wilkinson, Blackburn and DeOssie all have to be on thin ice.
Dunno why they’d need all that. I’d rather if they get 2 LB’s at some point, but MLB with Goff and the new guy is really all that matters.
An OLB would be better…it would be like last year getting 9 million WR’s if they got 2 more MLB’s.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 25, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
all that
and the dude’s name is angerer… i smell fights in the philly stands if this dude lands with us and in their backfield.
Kidding aside i love getting any MLB who has “great instincts” that moreso than size and speed is what i’m hoping for at this position. This position has to be the on field brain of the D.
So if he fits that mold…get him.
If he becomes a giant is his nickname going to be the all to obvious
Angry Pat Angerer
Please Mets.. over .500 this year? Please??
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 25, 2010 1:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No thanks
this guy isn’t any good, and on top of that he sounds similar to Goff. Why waste a pick on an identical player when we could use it on someone that could improve the team
by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 25, 2010 1:27 PM EST reply actions
"This guy isn't any good"
So do you have like any proof of this? Or are you just going to try and pass off your opinion as fact? Did you read any of the scouting reports?
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 25, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
you think there are 100 to 150 better guys in this draft??
We are talking about a 4th or 5th round pick
If he is a special teams dynamo and a sub from the 5th round its a good pick
awww
now you are just baiting bradshaw
don’t bite, Free
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 25, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I know he's projected to go much earlier
but I still like Washington from TCU better.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
I dont know
Spikes and thats it!!!!!
im not even checing out any other MLB’s this guy might just be the next dan connor and that my friend would not be good.
But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!
Yea whatever
Dan Connor couldnt shed a block to save his life completely overrated talent, he just went to linebacker U thats all and he was a great tackler there
But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!
Angerer sheds blocks with his eyes close.
Sean Lee, another PSU LB, would be like Dan Connor. As Injury prone too
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 25, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
very good prospect
the few times i watched any big ten football i did watch some of iowa and angerer seamed to be in on every single play! no joke that’s all i remember hearing the announcer says is this guys name. very good pick for the giants he will bulk up and will only get better with his over-achieving mentality.
by bleedblueandburntorange on Feb 25, 2010 1:49 PM EST reply actions
WHY!!!!
why is NOBODY talking about Sean Lee out of Penn State. the guy is a beast and is easily as good if not better then spikes. NFP has him listed just under spikes as the 3rd best ilb in the draft. Plus hes a guy who could play any linebacker position. I am a PSU fan and have watched him play for years, and aside from his knee injury id say he is the best pound for pound tackler in the draft this year. Not to mention he fits the Giants persona to a tee.
03 Sean Lee ILB, Penn State
NFP Grade: 6.2
Scouting Report:
Sean Lee: No. 45, ILB/OLB, 6-2, 236
A tough, instinctive linebacker who showcases the technique to consistently break down in a phone booth and make a tackle in the hole, Lee does a nice job finishing on plays away from his frame and using his hands to keep himself clean along the line. He knows how to stack and shed on contact. He looks natural in space as well. He’s a better athlete than given credit for and does a nice job getting a deep drop in Cover 2 looks. He showcases some natural fluidity when asked to flip his hips and redirect, but he isn’t the rangiest linebacker. He relies more on his savvy and body control to get to plays in the pass game.
Lee possesses good ball skills when asked to make a play on the throw and displays that sixth sense in his game. He takes good angles in pursuit and knows how to break down and wrap up in space. He’s coming off a knee injury that cost him the entire 2008 season, but he seems to have healed well and looks ready for the NFL. He has some versatility and can play both the inside and outside linebacker spots and should be able to carve out a niche as a starting linebacker at either position for an NFL team within his first couple of years in the league.
Grade: 6.2
We'll get to Lee
He’s on the list of MLB to keep an eye on.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 25, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
aside from his knee injury
you said it right there
both have been injured and he declined the Senior Bowl
you have to admit it makes him a question mark
Cuz Sean Lee is the type of prospct the Giants should be staying away from. That injury scares the hell out of me.
Unless we’re talking about the 5th round and they have already addressed the LB position, I avoid Lee like the plague.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 25, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
and the National football post sucks.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 25, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
National Football Post
I happen to really enjoy a couple of the Post’s writers, especially Michael Lombardi. Bunting I am questioning, even though I will reference his stuff on occasion.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 25, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I take him...
…if he is still there in 4 or 5. We need his attitude and motor. Looks like the starter potential is there.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Feb 25, 2010 5:00 PM EST reply actions
IM Just Saying
if you watch film of him play or watch him at the combine you may change your mind about him. I dont see him falling past the Third round MAYBE early 4th, Mcclain wont fall to us, so if we address the other areas that we need with the first 2 rounds, i dont see why taking a great tackler with good instincts who can play every LB position is a bad idea.
I know all about Sean Lee and have watched him plenty at PSU..as I’ve watched plenty of Angerer at Iowa.
I see Dan Connor, who also could play all the positions as a clone of Sean Lee. Its linebacker U…they all seem the same, Lee’s probably exactly like Posluzny too…for some reason all these PSU LB’s are always injury prone…so I avoid them like the plague.
Angerer possesses all of Lee’s smarts on the field.
I might have them ranked the same, but Lee’s injury is just too scary and also I like Angerer’s playmaking ability…dude’s as good against the run as he is against the pass.
He seems a lot like Lauranitis last year..and his potential is Barrett Ruud. Ruud’s gooood.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 25, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
Thanks. But yeah, if Angerer is the best player available in the middle of Day 2, I see no reason why the Giants shouldn’t select him :-). Sean Lee’s a terrific linebacker too.
If those scouting reports are accurate
he sounds more like a Londer Fletcher than a Blackburn or Goff.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 25, 2010 5:41 PM EST reply actions
Only thing I would add is that it of course depends on who they take in rounds 1 thru 3
Reese may have a plan for ET in first and Spikes in 2nd, then Angererererer is probably overkill
But its a tough call, last 2 years, guys fell right into out laps
Phillips was rated well higher than 30th best player, but there he was. Nicks was rated highly too, and such an obvious choice for Giants.
AP
Sounds a whole lot like a young AP… tons of tackles, undersized, not premium speed. We could certainly do worse, but I wouldn’t go above 4 for him.
Off topic...and i'm not sure if you guys already discussed this...
but when you listen to Jay Alford talk about getting healthy, and how he’s only 70%…and how he’s gotta get to where he was last year and blah blah blah.
is it any wonder why guys like Robbins and Osi had disappointing years?
I think we were all pretty high on Alford last year in camp but what can we expect from his this year? I don’t thinks our expectations should be too high, lets just hope he rebounds and stays healthy. This is the year for Cofield to finally make a name for himself…and for Canty to earn that paycheck.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
That's why I've been saying for months that the DT spot is a big need
Can we really count on Canty? No. We just hope he plays better. We can’t count on Alford. Bernard will probably be released and Robbins probably won’t get a contract offer. That leaves us with just Cofield. We need another guy to force the issue in the middle.
I think you need 2 guys who can eat up the majority of the snaps...
and a 3rd who can help out.
I think canty and cofield can be those guys…well, it’s clear the giants think canty can be one of them or they wouldn’t have paid him what they paid him.
so while i agree DT is a need, if Alford is a non factor i still think we can get by w/ what we have.
"If you don't know what you're doing... just rush the quarterback" - LT
Very good point..
We, well they have alot to evaluate going into this season..their new training techniques that they announced will hopefully help these players..because I and several other guys out here have wondered how these guys can suffer season ending hamstring pulls..It doesn’t make sense.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I will add that I no of any other team in the NFL
Had as many key or players they counted on get laid up by hamstring pulls..It was crazy..If we had all these players healthy, we could have made a decent run for the title in the SB..So they need to fix that.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Angerer's success w/ the Giants would have to be based on our DT's ability to keep him clean
and some of our needs would should be taken care of in FA even if the player is only a stop-gap.There are only so many draft picks.Gary Brackett anyone?
And we will get 1 or 2 offensive players in the first 5 rounds.
It will not be Def only draft.Sorry guys,it just really won’t.

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