New York Giants Notes: Eli Manning finds no good deed goes unpunished
A story broke on Monday that Eli Manning had released debt-strapped St. Vincent's Hospital from the final $500,000 of a marketing deal that it owed to him and that he would continue working with the hospital for no money. Yesterday, however, Eli got blasted on WFAN and in the Post for accepting the money St. Vincent's had already paid him as part of the deal. Yahoo's MJD summarizes the story at his Shutdown Corner blog, and I pretty much agree with his last two paragraphs:
"Perhaps Manning wasn't aware of the hospital's financial problems when he took their money to begin with. He had a marketing deal with the hospital. They signed up to give him that money. It's not like he held them up at gunpoint and started demanding cash or something.
It just seems like this was all a poorly-timed and poorly-executed deal from the beginning, and I'm sure Eli will do what he feels his right."
Eli would be well within his legal rights to demand the rest of the money from St. Vincent's, and he's doing a good thing by releasing them from the contract. He's doing a further good thing by continuing to work with them for free. If he were to donate back some of the money they already paid him, that would be a great thing, but he certainly has no obligation to do so. It's not his fault that St. Vincent's agreed to pay him that money when they should have realized their precarious financial situation.
Maybe some people will disagree, but I think Eli comes out of this looking like a good guy, not a bad one. I think the FAN and the Post are just an example of the NY sports media kicking a team while it's down. It happens in every sport in the city: when teams have a bad season or two (or a decade, in the Knicks case), little stories like this get blown out of proportion to make the struggling team look worse. Just take a look at the difference in coverage for the Yankees between this offseason and last, if you need proof. It's annoying, but that's just the way it is. If the Giants had won the Super Bowl again (or at least finished better than the Jets) the media would be suggesting they rename the hospital St. Eli's. What do you guys think of the situation?
- Remember that report I posted about Nick Folk working out with the Giants? Never mind, turns out he decided to sign with the Jets. Many of you were adamantly against signing Folk - I hope you were right, because if he has a good season for the Jets in our home stadium, the Giants are gonna look pretty bad, especially if Tynes struggles again.
- Ralph Vacchiano gives a free agent primer for the Giants. Ed covered most of this the other day, but Vacchiano lists the Giants who are free agents and what type of free agent they are. All I have to say is that I'm extremely glad CC Brown is on the list of free agents.
- Speaking of free agents: Barry Cofield says he'll most likely be a Giant again next year. Cofield was the Giants best defensive tackle last year, though that doesn't say too much. He's a good player, though, and I hope the Giants bring him back and get him some help.
- Finally, the Giants are taking a scientific approach to offseason training, looking to endurance sports for guidance. I'm far from a fitness expert, but, hey, it sounds good, right?
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Offseason training
Good to see the Giants are doing something to solve all the training camp niggles they have been having for years
As for Eli – how much have they paid him already prepared to what he has waived? Mind you given the contract he received from the Giants does he need the extra money?
by G Fan in England on Feb 24, 2010 7:22 AM EST reply actions
If you can get paid
you get paid. His shelf life as a QB (and thus his best years of noteriety) are short, so take advantage while you can.
The Hospital
has given him about $600,000 already. From what I read in the paper the hospital was already in the red when they approached Eli.
So let me get this straight
He signed a deal with them to help them out by being a vocal face for the hospital, they ended up in serious financial straits so he dropped the rest of the deal, AND he continues to work with them as that vocal face they wanted? How does this get twisted into a bad thing? Oh right, cause he took money in the first place… like anyone criticizing him would have said “no way, I will turn down that 6 or 7 figures you are offering, and just do it for free.” The guy was offered some Coin, he accepted, and he then did something a lot of athletes would not do (ie not only release them from their obligations on getting the rest of his money, BUT continue to promote for them).
Hilariously ridiculous.
Just plain stupid haters
The same guys blasting him would of held the Hospital to paying the full amount no doubt in my mind, It’s just silly how the stupid media blast Eli all the time and then they say the NY fans hate him. I am sorry but I love Eli through thick and thin the guy has done more for our team then any QB since the great Simms so all the Eli haters need to just stop. What he did for that Hospital was huge and is being spun as if he is stealing, for someone as good as a roll model as Eli has been, no DUI’s no MAKIN IT RAIN no VEHICLAR MANSLAUGHTER no DOG FIGHTING RING no RICO ACT no CRYING LIKE A BABY no WIFE BEATING and it goes on and on, this guy does what a human is suppose to and they kick him in the nuts for it. NY Media will never ever have love for Eli, ever.
All's Well that Fewell
This is why people don't snitch on criminals and why police don't break the blue wall
Anytime you do something right, there is always someone there that has a problem with it. Eli did the right thing as he and his wife are deeply involved in that hospital and they had the heart to say ‘rip up this deal and make no payments to us going forward’ That is an amazingly thoughtful gesture but they get ripped for money they’d gotten already. Here’s the thing, does any of the media know how much money Eli actually GAVE to the hospital before and after he learned of their financial troubles? Nope and they don’t care to know the two sides of the story and that’s what fair and balanced NY reporting is all about.
I heard the Jets might be trading for Nnamdi Asomugha?
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
Is that
a good source?
It most involve some good players and or high draft picks!
by G Fan in England on Feb 24, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
I was checking ESPN and saw it in the bottom corner.
Its Insider..which I don’t have (tho I can get it for free..I have The Mag..I refuse to sign up for that crap tho).
It says it was reported by ESPN’s AFC East beat reporter. He’s probably just another gaping a-hole reporter, but we’ll see.
Revis and Asomugha would be quite nasty. It would be even better when it fails miserably.
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 24, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Can you help
I was going to attempt a half radical mock draft but got stuck at pick 18 and beyond as I do not know enough about the players in the draft – as long as you don’t laugh too much could you finish it?
by G Fan in England on Feb 24, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Well after the Pro Bowl
I read somewhere that Asomugha mentioned he wanted to play on the same team as Revis, saying Revis would come to Oakland (NOT happening) or “some other way”. I just figured it was fodder but could there be truth to this? The Jets would have to Pay big time and sacrifice their draft. I hope Al Davis isn’t stupid enough to trade Nnamdi for Vernon Gholston, Kellen Clemens and a 1st.
15 is a good number
by I_Formation27 on Feb 24, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
I could actually see something like that, except take out Gholston and Clemons and put in Kerry Rhodes, as well as put in a 2011 first rounder.
2 firsts, Kerry Rhodes…probably something else (2nd rounder? Rexy’s dinner options?)
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 24, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
THERE IS NO CAP.
OTHER THEN THAT I DON’T KNOW!
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 24, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Oh.
Well….I think they’d figure out something to do with Asomugha if they got him.
Cutting Vernon Gholston could be a start.
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 24, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
maybe , but he has 16mill coming his way next year. so it does make things tricky.
and thats alot of vernon gholstons.
We should take a flyer on Gholston if he is cut
If its cheap, why not? Maybe he is better than Tollefson
by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 24, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
No ramifications for cutting players in an uncapped year
I don't need birthdays. I buy myself everything I need and because of my drinking its often a surprise
I read that article on Eli
And thought it was absolutely ridiculous to criticise him for what he did..What he did was a great gesture plus he will do it now for nothing..What a bunch of idiots on the WFAN and that write for the Post.
Also, I am very happy they are taking a better approach with player training..that can only help.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
It just goes to show what a total F'ing idiot Carton is
I think that Eli ought to go on ESPN for free opposite this douche just to wreck his ratings.
First of all...
What the hell is a hospital doing signing pro athletes to 7 figure endorsement contracts to begin with? Am I the only one who goes to the nearest hospital when urgent and to whatever hospital/doctors office the specialist I desire to see works at otherwise? Let the Citizens and Double Stuffs shell out the big bucks for the celebrity endorsements.
That being said, Eli is at no fault here, the NY papers and the FAN are a joke and just about everything they say should just be ignored anyways.
Well
Certainly Eli is getting a raw deal here. but in fairness the situation in the economy and the general suffering around the country is going to leave pro athletes who most people think are overpaid open to this kind of attack. I don’t think there is anything special about Eli that is making him a target other than his wage, tips and other compensation.
Later today I read a few articles talking about how great what Eli did was..
..some even had headlines that were quite hyperbolic in terms of his kindness. The Post is practically a tabloid
I don't need birthdays. I buy myself everything I need and because of my drinking its often a surprise
These are probably
the same peole who go to this hospital and don’t pay their bill. They are just looking for something to say to make themselves feel better about stiffing a hospital about to go under.

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