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Daily NFL Draft Prospect Profile: Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech

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Depending on which scouting service or draft expert you read, Derrick Morgan of Georgia Tech might be the best defensive end in the draft.

At the very least, he is in the discussion with Sergio Kindle (Texas), Carlos Dunlap (Florida) and Jason Pierre-Paul (South Florida).

If New York Giants General Manager Jerry Reese is tempted by a defensive end in the first round of the April NFL Draft, Morgan might be the player out of that top tier of DEs who is the best fit for the Giants. With so many teams playing the 3-4 now, and Morgan reportedly not being a good fit for that scheme, he might even be available when the Giants select in the first round.

All of that said, Morgan is the subject of today's Daily NFL Draft Prospect Profile. Let's take a closer look at the 6-foot-4, 275-pounder.

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Derrick Morgan Scouting Reports

From DraftAce, a site I have not referred to often enough while doing these profiles.

Prototypical size and strength. An elite pass rusher. Shows a nice array of pass rush moves. Has the lower body strength to use the bull rush on occassion. Very patient and disciplined; holds up well when the ball is run at him. A high energy player who consistently makes plays in pursuit. A team leader on and off the field.

Morgan is one of the more complete defensive end prospects to enter the draft in recent years. He wasn't a household name in college because he doesn't make many flashy highlight reel plays, but he is as consistent as they get.

From SB Nation's Mocking The Draft.

Top notch edge rusher that can win the battles time after time with the explosion that gives him the free outside shoulder. ... Relentless in pursuit of the ball carrier.

Played end on both sides, even saw time inside the guard. The quickness off the snap and consistent technique allows him to excel at any spot along the defensive line.

Morgan is by far the most versatile defensive end in this draft class, but the talent is right there to match it. He has the ideal frame, measurables, technique, and attitude for life in the trenches. The thing that needs to be looked in to the most however is the issue he has with balance. He spends way too much time on the ground, as he gets too reckless and loses his sense of footwork. He also struggled against some of his toughest competition while beating up on lineman that just might have a shot at the NFL. With that said, it is rare to come by such a talented prospect that understands the importance of technique and work ethic. If he is put in to a system that allows him to move around and exploit matchup problems, Morgan can turn in to an All-Pro very soon.

From NFL Draft 101.

Best all-around defensive end in the draft ... Good combination of power and athleticism ...Constantly making plays in the backfield. 19 TFL and 12.5 sacks in 2009 ... Ideal size and bulk to play DE in a 4-3.

Here is one more, from Walter Football.

Derrick Morgan's stock has really risen this season and I expect him to come off the board in the top 20 picks now. There is so much value for pass rushers in the 4-3 scheme in the league since they are so hard to come by, but Morgan's well-rounded skill set and potential will make him of value to NFL teams.

NFL Fans of 3-4 teams: don't get your hopes up. Morgan really struggles when dropping into coverage. He is most comfortable with his hand in the ground.

Why Morgan fits with the Giants

The guy has all the skills to be an elite defensive end against both the run and the pass. Sounds like a terrific bookend for Justin Tuck. Osi Umenyiora might or might not be back. Mathias Kiwanuka will be back, but he might never be the dominant force the Giants hoped for when they drafted him. Morgan might be what the Giants thought Kiwanuka would be, but has not yet become. Plus, the Giants love to move linemen around and create match-up problems for offensive lines. Morgan offers the flexibility to do that. And it always comes back to the Giants "you can never have too many pass rushers" philosophy.

Why the Giants should pass

If the Giants are convinced Osi Umenyiora will be back, in a good frame of mind, and productive, they already have a three-headed monster at defensive end with Umenyiora, Tuck and Kiwanuka. Snaps might be hard to come by for Morgan. They do, as we know, have other areas that need attention. Of course, maybe Osi won't be back.

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In the last mock draft FreeBradshaw took part in on MTD he did indeed select this DE with the 15th pick.

Even if Osi stays in 2010 the chances are his best year’s are behind him so taking a DE who fits our system would seem a good idea.

That said it would be a close call between Morgan and one of the top OT’s when we come to pick.

by G Fan in England on Feb 23, 2010 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

Like the idea...

and agree that a good DE would be a solid pick up here to groom. I wish we still had that undrafted DE (I think his name was Evans from Penn St) from preseason last year. He was good and could have given us depth. That way trade Osi for more picks. 15 is where we will go BPA out of the OTs, LBs, DTs, and DEs. Who knows at this point what that will be, as 14 other teams could go anyway at this point. But, if this analysis on Morgan is acurate, could be a good pick at 15.

by CCE718 on Feb 23, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Morgan = Justin Tuck.

If Tuck was healthy in college, he’d be Derrick Morgan.

Imagine they could get 2 DE’s teh caliber of Tuck manning both sides of the line, with Kiwi subbing at both sides?

Or in this year, have a 4 DE line. A DL that even with 4 DE’s, the 2 guys in the middle can stop the run.

Morgan possibly is the BPA at the spot.

DE isn’t a “need”. But defensive line is a need. That includs all comers.

Guys that can stop the run and pass as well as Morgan? Sheeeeeeeeet. Sign me up

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Morgan = Tuck is a great comparison

Even if we weren’t on a Giants Blog this would be the accurate comparison.

by ggggmen08 on Feb 23, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Its exactly why I drafted him.

One Tuck is good. 2 Tucks?

The more Tucks you have the better.

Plus, Morgan wears #91 (he’s gonna have to change that….)

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't that pic

Look like a Notre Dame uniform, by the way. The Tuck comparison brought it to mind.

by Ed Valentine on Feb 23, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes it is

a great comparison. And this is a DE I would not complain one bit about if the Giants took him. Some of the other guys, yes, but not this one.

by Ed Valentine on Feb 23, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly.

I think Kindle, JPP have potential…but they have Osi Umenyiora type potential.

That’s even a reason I’m intrigued with Carlos Dunalp. Complete DE’s, or at least DE’s like Dunlap who have the potential to be complete DE’s, are much better in my mind then one dimensional pass rushers.

This is why I’d rather Kiwi start, cuz he’s better against the run (maybe they should trade Osi?)

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm on board

I would love this pick. With Osi being disgruntled and coming off a bad season and Kiwi nearing free agency you can ALMOST make the argument that this is a need. If he only has another year with the Giants we can re-sign Kiwi and if we have Morgan we still have a 3 headed monster. Having 2 DE’s that can rush the passer AND play the run would be great.

by Giants56 on Feb 23, 2010 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

I've liked this guy for a while

Probably at least equal talent wise to McClain, maybe better, if he is there at 15 I would think it would be overwhelming value.

by giantblue63 on Feb 23, 2010 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

This is probably going to be

sac-religious on this site, but I think McClain is definitely overrated.

by Giants56 on Feb 23, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

product of a nick saban system

by omfGIANTS on Feb 23, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree as well.

Never bought into the hype. I think his stock could drop a bit post-combine, but will still get drafted high because of reputation and best available.

by CCE718 on Feb 23, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree on McClain

He is fast, physical, smart, and diagnosis plays extremely well. I think he has definite pro bowl potential. And the fact that he was coached by Nick Saban, Sal Sunseri, and Kirby Smart only makes me want him more because you know he has been coached by the best.

by ggggmen08 on Feb 23, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Not overrated

But others at the position have been underrated to boost his fan fare

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Feb 23, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched all 4 of the DE's this season

Sergio Kindle (Texas), Carlos Dunlap (Florida) and Jason Pierre-Paul (South Florida) and Morgan. Morgan was by far my favorite. Pierre-Paul has more up side, but Morgan is just so consistent with his pressure. Kindle and Dunlap were both on very good defenses, so they didnt get as much attention as Pierre-Paul and Morgan did in the blocking schemes and still didnt really stand out.

by ryanwk628 on Feb 23, 2010 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

I think Morgan is the best too

He is relentless in his pursuit of the ball. He impressed me every time I saw him play.

I think Pierre-Paul has the biggest bust potential. He only played D1 college ball for one year. He also has some red flags.

by ggggmen08 on Feb 23, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Morgan has a low floor and a high ceiling.

He’ll either be Justin Smith…a DE who maybe gets you 8 sacks on a great year, but usually 4-6. But stops the run extremely well.

His ceiling is Justin Tuck.

Extremely low chance of being a “bust”. Either they get a solid DE, or they get a star like Tuck.

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i say pick him

sounds like a guy we can use like tuck, can play either side at the DE, or move him inside at any point. if this guy is made for the 4-3, with so many DEs playing the 3-4, its almost a must pick if hes available at 15.

Is it baseball season yet??

by Plaxico Burress on Feb 23, 2010 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

I like what I read....

I like everything I have read about this guy. You did mention that we have a three-headed monster at defensive end with Umenyiora, Tuck and Kiwanuka but with injuries this guy should be a good fit

by rbman3 on Feb 23, 2010 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

"understands the importance of technique and work ethic"

Those are def qualities that would make him a perfect fit with the Giants. I could only see us getting him if Osi or Kiwi are traded. I am a bigger fan of Osi and would prefer to keep him and hope that he comes back with a vengeance next season. If they truly don’t think Kiwi can be the dominant force they invisioned, I could see how trading him for a pick would benefit us. Drafting a DE like Morgan could provide insurance while maintaining depth.

15 is a good number

by I_Formation27 on Feb 23, 2010 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

Also he’s 20 years old and a junior. Junior players don’t have this sort of polish.

I disagree on Osi mattering in this. He doesn’t. Morgan doesn’t have to start, Morgan and Kiwi can be the rotation guys.

As I’ve been saying, this aint about this year, its about the future. Morgan could be a solid rotational DL for the Giants this year, but in the future they gotta look at what to do with Osi and/or Kiwi.

I’d rather replace one of them, if they’re going, with a kid this caliber then have it be a drastic need when the time comes. He’ll be experienced by then too.

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

Of course Morgan doesn't have to start

But I think it would be much better if we got rid of Kiwi or Osi now to obtain some picks so that we could get Morgan, and also get 2 possible starters or at least part time contributors on D for next season like a Price or Spikes. I’d rather trade Kiwi and have 3 picks in the top 46, than just use the 15 on Morgan when we have so many other “need” positions that could be filled with 15.

Now if we get Morgan at 15, and one of the top 3 DT’s (not incl. Suh and McCoy) slides to us in the 2nd then thats a diff story, but still ideal scenario in MHO.

15 is a good number

by I_Formation27 on Feb 23, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

No. I would not trade Kiwi.

I’d trade Osi if I was choosing between the 2. Kiwi’s much more complete.

His potential is still being tapped, the Giants "Joba CHamberlain’d him by putting him at SLB for that brief time.

He was really only in his 3rd full year and did not benefit by playing DT at times.

I’d rather trade none of them, but Kiwi is probably the last one I’d consider trading on the team after Eli Manning and Justin Tuck.

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

wouldnt go that far

to say he’s third ranked on untradeable list.. if a team offered a high second and player .. id trade him..

at his position. when would he start? he is football smart and has made plays. but he’s a “start fast, end slow” type of player so far.

maybe with a legit Defense scheme and goot DT play hed flourish like we all thought he would..

by semsemma on Feb 23, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Which was in 2008. He flourished with Tuck being the man. Kiwi’s a much better run defender then Osi.

The Giants bread and butter is their defensive line, and Kiwi’s #2 on that list for best DL’s on the team.

I don’t trade Kiwi. Period.

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Like Free said

“If Gaines Adams (RIP) could get a 1st, Osi Kiwi can get a 1st too”. Then we could potentially get Morgan, Price and Chad Jones or Nate Allen with our top 3 picks. EXCELLENCEEEE

15 is a good number

by I_Formation27 on Feb 24, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Morgan seems good.

I’d rather have Kiwi + Morgan.

Not sans Kiwi.

Kiwi’s a better part of the team, not Osi. Trade Osi if we must trade an important asset to the team.

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 24, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Always hard to argue...

with a pass rusher as you can never ahve enough quality rushers.

I like what I’ve seen on tape with this kid except we can never, ever allow him to drop into coverage and he’s seems uncomfortable in space. What I’ve seen of this years crop of pass rushers, makes me think they are being hyped up due to need over there being any real special players. Don’t kill me over that, but I see serious flaws in every DE listed towards the top of the draft.

Morgan- very stiff hipped, only seems comfortable moving forward or sideways and once a runner is outside of him he doesn’t recover well.

Dunlap- character and motivation issues, takes at least half of the plays off and there are many more red flags

Pierre-Paul- still pretty raw, needs alot of technique improvement, not effective against the run(Osi, anyone?)

Graham- I think this kid is the most talented and versatile of the bunch, but lacks prototypical size: his arms only measured 30 inches. He also will struggle in coverage with limited lateral speed.

Griffen- Extremely raw and soft. Inconsistent and lacks power.

I am of the mind that there isn’t a DE I would want to spend a #15 on. With our glaring needs elsewhere on the D, the DE we would take at this pick would have to be the second coming of Stray.

Bleeding Blue since 1962

by sunlion333 on Feb 23, 2010 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

I haven't seen this kid in action..but he sounds good to me

He reportedly has everything you look for in a DE playing 4-3..and I especially like the reports on his run-stopping ability…Maybe “Osi Ozborne” would start thinking about bending over and kissing his ass goodbye if we get this kid…I love it when I hear the term great work ethic in a player evaluation..that gets me excited to the point where I want to rush down my QB..the wife..and ‘sack’ her :)..

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 23, 2010 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

The Giants need a DE

Like my wife needs a pair of shoes

by dubsrub on Feb 23, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

I'm convinced that a woman only buys all them shoes..

So they can throw them at you…They are ammunition..they can throw them around corners like boomerangs and catch ya right in the ass everytime…My wife only wears a few pairs of them and I swear the rest are considered weaponry to them..When I look in my wife’s closet I have only one thought that comes to mind: “Yes Dear”.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 23, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

shoes are nice.

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Derrick Morgan and the Giants

I have to admit I have not studied up on Derrick Morgan DE. But if what everyone is correct in what is said about him I would go after him in the first round. First I would trade Osi for a 1st round pick and hope to get at least a 6th or 7th pick added to that. Then Pick up both Derrick Morgan DE and Brian Price DT in the first round. In the 2nd round Pick up Brandon Spikes ILB. 3rd round Nate Allen FS and at the end of the 3rd round sup pick for losing Ward last year = Chad Jones SS or Donovan Warren CB. 4th round pick Jared Veldheer OT. In the 5th round Major Wight FS. In the 6th round Zoltan Menhe K / P not sure of spelling of last name but he does both Kicking and punting and he has the best leg in the last 10 years coming out of college.

by jerseyjoehaven on Feb 23, 2010 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

Sounds like a good plan to me Jerseyjoe..I would

Also like to somehow get CJ Spiller..in there..I don’t hold much stock in Brown’s agent saying he running full speed..He’s just your typical used car salesman until we see Brown prove it…Spiller would be an awesome aquisition…that Zoltan kid is a monster kicker that looks like a linebacker…after he kicks you the ball he’ll run down and kick your butt for having the audacity to try returning it..and that Veldheer is another monster..I love that Nate Allen kid..he is one of the guys circled in my Sears Catalog wish-list along with Spiller.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 23, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Kinda agree

but would rather trade Kiwi and hope for a top 46 pick. And your a lil heavy on defense. In your scenario, after Nate Allen I wouldnt draft another DB, I’d go 2 OT and maybe a RB.

15 is a good number

by I_Formation27 on Feb 23, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

DOES ANYBODY ELSE SEE DERRICK HARVEY

not a BAD player, but I think D Morgan = D Harvery, the top 10 pick out of florida to Jacksonville a few yrs back

by durst on Feb 23, 2010 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

No.

Actually..other then playing in the southern portion of the United States..that’s a completely irrelevant comparision. Maybe they share the same first name? I dunno…but Harvey is irrelevant.

Derrick Harvey didn’t produce much at Florida.

Derrick Morgan was very productive and a complete DE. Harvey is a pass rusher, nothing else.

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Iggles just released Westbrook...

…and he probably still got past Antonio Pierce.

As football fans, we salute you, Mr. Westbrook. You were a formidable opponent, you played the game the right way.

As Giants fans, we say: “don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, kid.” We won’t miss you at all.

I left my swagger in my other pants.

by HughG16 on Feb 23, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

LOL!!..Maybe we can pick him up for a little payback..

Parcells always picked up a veteran running back to play in special situations, i.e. Walker, Anderson..maybe we can grab Westbrook for a decent price to play a similar role for us…We need to beat the Eagles this year..and I’d love to see him be a part of it.

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 23, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope they trade McNabb too.

"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"

#88 ya'll

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL!!

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 23, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol

“He spends way too much time on the ground, as he gets too reckless and loses his sense of footwork”

Brian Price has this identical problem which is keeping him from being a top 10 pick. This can (I hope) easily be fixed with coaching. I like this guy.

by Nfpdawg on Feb 23, 2010 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

Quality

Morgan would be a quality pick at 15 but i say we stay away from DE’s for a bit i mean if healthy we have tuck, osi, kiwi, sintim, canty can slide out and so can jay alford believe it or not but morgan is cool………. and i think everyone is taking spikes for granted he might not make it to the second round. I can see dallas taking him then i would have to call reese my self, also i can see him going to the bucs at the very begining of the 2nd round to play sam yes i know they have rudd…….but even last yrs mike backers who slid were gone in the first few picks of the 2nd round and if a lesson was to be taken from maulauga and laurinitis it would be that they deserved to go in the first round. I dnt think GM’s are gonna let that happen again this year. But we all know Reese’s slogan adopted from accorsi " You can never have too many pass rushers" so with the 15th pick in the 2010 NFL draft the NY football Giants select Derrick Morgan LMAO

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Feb 23, 2010 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

...probably not.

as much as we would like to have a loaded d-line, this pick is probably not going to happen. the major needs of this team are S and MLB. if the jints do not take one of these two positions with the first pick i will be AMAZED. you guys need to be realistic….besides, the rotation at d-end is the same rotation that we had in 08 that did some serious damage, and the same rotation minus michael strahan that tormented tom brady in the 07 super bowl against the pats….my moneys on earl thomas for the first pick.

by Paul Billings on Feb 23, 2010 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

MORGAN

IMO we have to go with the best player available at #15. DE is not top of the list on the defensive side of the ball. We must look at all positions. Offensive and defensive

by costanza! on Feb 23, 2010 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

Yes!!!

i think somepeople want us to just play zero blitz all day. just put 10 DE’s and KP out there we will be okay. lol but seriously i would draft about 5-6 other positions before i would take a DE……. MLB, S, DT, FB(lol), CB, OL, dammit even a really good back up QB

But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!

by Blue Gates on Feb 23, 2010 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

YES

Perhaps even a lineman or running back.

by costanza! on Feb 23, 2010 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

If Morgan is BPA then I'm all for it.

Drafting based too strongly on need leaves you with a roster full of lesser talent. It would be nice to get a safety or LB or DT in FA so the team can draft as the board dictates.

by Wilba on Feb 23, 2010 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

Offseason Plan: Trade Osi, Sign Peppers and Draft Plans

Here is my plan as the GM of the Giants. I think if these moves occur the Giants will be a filthy team. First move is to trade Osi for an additional 1st rounder and a 3rd or 5th as well. Then to replace Osi, sign Peppers. He and Osi are basically the same age and we come out much better this way with still having an elite DE but also adding valuable picks that can really fill out our team. The other potential FA signing which would be really smart is Darren Sharper. He would be a huge help in the secondary and we would not be pressed to find help at safety and could focus more on CB. So with our newly acquired 1st rounder it can be anywhere from early to late in the round, so i think our options for those two picks should come from either one of the elite OT’s, Dez Bryant, Spiller, Price, Odrick, Eric Berry, Earl Thomas, Joe Haden. Now those are a bunch of great players to choose from. I think one player who should be a definite pick as long as we are high enough is C.J. Spiller. This guy is just too much of a talent and such a great player in many ways. Pairing Spiller and Jacobs together would be a deadly tandem. Jacobs is a downhill runner and Spiller is an outside runner/receiver with great speed, ability to make people miss, and great return skills. Its important for us to get better in our return game because Hixon was not doing well. Then with our second 1st rounder i say we choose from Price or one of the three DB’s. In the end I think we should go with Price, as he might be the one who is available at 15. So round one we get a nice haul of a terrific playmaker in Spiller, and a disruptive DT in Price. Then for round two I like the idea of Brandon Spikes if he is available. If we got him in the second that would be a huge value pick for us considering our need there. Then in the following rounds and with our extra picks in the third or fifth we add a number of players who fill needs like our DB, OL, DL, LB and WR’s. Some players to target are Charles Brown, Brandon Lang, Patrick Robinson, Chad Jones, Mardy Gilyard and Jordan Shippley. I really like WR Mardy Gilyard who would be another special playmaker to add on offense. He is a guy who could be in the mold of Desean Jackson. Our starting WR’s could be Nicks, Smith and Gilyard/Manningham paired with our scary RB combo of speed and power in Jacobs and Spiller. If that is what occurs we would have a really frightening team for next year.

by TomCarvel on Feb 24, 2010 6:22 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with this premise...

The main thing being we trade OSI – and we should be able to get an additional #1 for him – he is a PROVEN commodity at a position that is coveted, irregardless of whether or not he can play the run. Somebody WILL give up a #1 to get a guy that can speed rush.

To me, my gut feeling is to go ALL defense – but if we get an extra top pick, I don’t have a problem taking Spiller although I dread the thought of listening to Free. But to me, I would use that extra high pick on the DT, and then take Dexter McCluster later at a discount.

I really believe that offensively, if we didn’t do anything we would still be fine. But our Special Teams suck, I would have no problem obtaining the power of Zoltan and a real returner.

Defense Wins Championships. Tattoo it on your arm.

by dubsrub on Feb 24, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree w/everything you said except 1 thing

Regardless of what happens I would still try to get McCluster in a later round, even if we only have our reg 7 picks.

PPL sound like a broken record saying “Gilbride won’t know what to do with him”. McCluster solves our kick-return problems. Point blank. AND, he can be inserted in the offense adding another dimension to a sometimes predictable offense, and no thats not a knock on Gilbride.

15 is a good number

by I_Formation27 on Feb 24, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

But McCluster is projected as a 2nd or 3rd round selection

so does later round mean anything after round 1

or

we brainwash the other teams GMs to get him to fall

There are a ton of 2-3 round guys I’d love to get in a later round. How about Chad Jones?

by giantblue63 on Feb 24, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Well if he did fall

to the 3rd round that would be great, but that’s unlikely. I prob used “later round” loosely but I’m suggesting somewhere after the 2nd round.
I honestly think he will get boosted into the early to mid 2nd round after a great combine and Chris Johnson like 40-time (who knows Al Davis might draft him in the 1st lol). But if he did miraculously fall to us in the 3rd or if we got an extra 2nd by trading down I would be all-in on this guy. He’s a tough bastard for his size too.

15 is a good number

by I_Formation27 on Feb 24, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

And no

I would defenitely not take McCluster over Chad Jones.

15 is a good number

by I_Formation27 on Feb 24, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that if we sign dansby or ryans then sharper or rolle then we would get him or pieere-paul. if we only sign rolle then we should draft maclain or someone. if we only sign dansby or ryans the we shold draft Jones or thomas.

by Giants51255 on Feb 24, 2010 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

Nah

If we were just going blindly for BPA why dont they take Dez Bryant? Because in the modern NFL you need your 1st and 2nd round rookies to contribute in year 1. And this guy will be #4 on the depth chart. Why waste a 1st rounder on a guy that will only be getting a few snaps when you have much bigger holes right behind him?

the 4DE lineup is a complete failure, you can look at 2009 to figure that much out.

And No, this guy is not Tuck. Tuck was not Tuck until he was coached up for 3 years by Strahan and Umenyiora.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 24, 2010 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

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