With the 15th pick in the draft the New York Giants select.....
by hotshot5568@aim.com on Feb 22, 2010 3:50 PM EST
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With the 15th pick in the draft the New York Giants select.....
I'd like Earl Thomas because of the need the giants have at saftey and he would be a great value at 15 I also would love the combo of Earl Thomas's ball-hawk ability with Kenny Phillips
but I want to hear some of your opinions on players the Giants should pick and a reason why you would choose this player.
some position of need for the giants are:
S
DT
OL
MLB
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Rolando The Pain Train McClain.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Big Bad Insane Rolando McClain
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 22, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'll go by positions of need who are #15 worthy
S- Earl Thomas and Eric Berry (that’s it) – Berry’s probably long gone, but Earl Thomas probably only lacks 3 inches when compared with Berry. Is that it? Maybe so. He’d be a fine pick…always was a top candidate.
MLB- Rolando McClain. That’s it. None of the other MLB’s are worth this.
OT- Brian Bulaga, Bruce Cambpell, Anthony Davis- I think all 3 should be gone by this point tho. Bulaga could fall cuz I think he’s got a thyroid condition. Whatever…he’d be a hell of a pick, and I might choose him over Earl Thomas if he’s there.
DT- Brian Price, Dan WIlliams. Both good players, I just don’t think either are the BPA at #15 if they are there. DT is a likely pick come late April, but I don’t see these 2 being the best players here at #15.
So, I think the most likely pick is Brian Bulaga if he’s there. #2 would be Earl Thomas.
…I think both have a chance of being off the board too, so we’ll see.
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
#15
Remove Anthony Davis he’s falling into the second round from the combine. DT’s Price and Williams are good picks if the Giants trade down for extra picks, good at about #20. If the Giants go for the “O” its Bruce Cambell if its the “D” in will be Rolando McClain. Earl Thomas is very good but the draft if rich in the D-backs position from the second round to the fourth round. Outside of that if the Giants trade Osi for a #1 pick plus a #5 or #6 added to the trade. I can see them picking up Kindle OLB / DE to replace Osi. He is younger and a better fit at the position.
by jerseyjoehaven on Mar 9, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
With the 10th pick in the draft the New York Giants select.....
Rolando McClain, Linebacker, University of Alabama
Me = :D
by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 22, 2010 5:42 PM EST reply actions
the best defensive backs in pro football are almost helpless when your pass rush rarely gets within a zip cpde of the quarterback. immediate need is a stud nose tackle who can open up holes for the linebackers and defensive ends.it was no surprise the giants led the league in giving up the most thirty plus yard plays. like you say, the safety is appealing but the bottom line is the giants with the active quarterbacks in romo, and the philly qb. the team desperately needs a pass rush, it was painful watching games last year when they couldn’t shut down any one…
This is a Good Thought, But Qb’s are going to get a some throws off even with the greatest Pass rushers, The Giants need help covering when that does happen.
Last year going into the Season Every Fan said With This D-line Nobody could beat us…. Wrong!!
by RagingBattleAxe on Mar 1, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions
I really can’t see the giants going for any DT in the first round or early second. If anything we’ll grab one in the lat 2nd or third. If I’m correct, we will have Canty, Cofield, and Alford by April. One guy I noticed on the Giants roster named Anthony Bryant. The guy isn’t young, but he’s 337 so he’s giving us somethign to work with. I’m not saying he’s going to be something good, but it’s just something to keep in mind. Saying that, I don’t think it would make sense to throw some money at a guy when we have 3 potentially good guys plus one who may show something come training camp.
Honestly, I would love to see Dansby go to Miami and have McClain fall to us. The more eople talk abou thim and the more I watch highlights of him, the more I fall in love with the guy. I’d rather not try to trade up to get him because I don’t trust Reese with trades for w/e reason, but he’s the guy I want at #15 regardlesswhat safety o Olineman is on the board.
Idk
Bruce Campbell seems like a project to me, I think he’ll fall to early-2nd round. Even though he doesn’t exactly fit the Giants, I wouldn’t be surprised if Reese pulls an Accorsi and drafts Brandon Graham. Scouts say he fits a Tampa 2 scheme very well.
Reese always loves to draft players that can play multiple positions. He’s more than likely going to draft Earl Thomas, if available. He can challenge Ross and Bruce Johnson for that nickel spot (or used as a hybrid) and play safety as well.
Overpay Karlos Dansby 'cuz McClain is not going to fall to 15.
McClain is already slotted to go before the 15th pick on most draft boards, and he’s not going to hurt his stock at the combine. McClain isn’t going to make it to the Giants unless Reese trades up. That’s likely not to happen.
Regardless of where Dansby ends up, Reese has to go defense and get … Bryan Price (DT). OT wouldn’t be a bad alternative, if Price isn’t there.
Why overpay for someone who has never even played that position?
by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 23, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
Myron Rolle
Thats just my opinion on a guy who would work extremely hard to be his best
Aussie! Aussie! Aussie! Oi ! Oi ! Oi ! Aiming for ONE medal in the winter Olympics.
+1 I love this Guy, Everything about Him! He’s a Genius, and he’s Physical. What more could you want?
by RagingBattleAxe on Mar 1, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
Brian Price
Robbins will be gone. A rotation of Cofield, Alford, Canty and Price will bolster the trenches. Thus allowing the giants to draft Nate Allen or Chad Jones in the 2nd.
15 is a good number
I concur
Robbins a 33 year old run defender has been excellent for us since 2004. I’m afraid though, old age and injuries are catching up to him and he has not been what he used to be. Get rid of him. O yea with Rocky “give me your money” bernard also…who was a bust. If the Giants do not sign a big name MLB (like Dansby) then take best available DT/MLB. The draft has allot of good S’s that we could pick up in later rounds. You took the two name right out of my mouth. Nate Allen and Chad Jones.
Unless...
Unless McClain drops to them (dubious), I agree on the Price is Right, hehe!
Trade down.
No McClain, trade down. As we’ve all said before about a million times by now.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
Earl Thomas
why doesnt anyone like Earl Thomas
by hotshot5568@aim.com on Feb 23, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions
Everybody likes ET
but some of us don’t like him at #15. I, personally, see more value in him as a CB, but not for us.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
I do.
I got Bulaga, ET and Derrick Morgan as my 3 I select at #15. Who would be based on which one’s there..they all could be gone, and who’s actually better.
Bulaga’s got risks, health risks so that’s a concern. Other then that he might be the best athlete for an OT his size…he also probably is off the board in the top 10.
ET has the "height issue…but who cares, he can cover Desean Jackson deep and has great timing..so he can knock Miles Austin for a loop. He might be gone too! The Jags rightfully so, hate Reggie Nelson, so he could be their pick.
But Derrick Morgan might be too good to pass up anyway!
…But Earl Thomas is definitely worth #15 and is a strong possibility.
Brian Price is a possibility too…but equally with Earl Thomas, is his size and issue? Is he worth the #15? Dunno as much as ET.
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
We'd better hope we're not depending on our safeties covering Jackson
but if you were going to have one of the draft prospects doing it, you could do way worse than Thomas. That’s why I see him as a corner more than a safety.
Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t completely implode if we took him at #15, but I would think it ill advised. This kid has great cover skills and it seems a waste for him to not be playing CB. I wouldn’t like him in our scheme as one, although that has yet to be determined what that will be, because I like big corners.
Health concerns in an OT are a deal killer for me. If he doesn’t hold up well at the college level, he will be a perenniel IR player.
Morgan looks pretty good, but I don’t see any of the DE’s in this draft as #15 level. If he can shake the view I have of him being very stiff and lacking in pursuit skills other than straight ahead, I might reconsider. I think Brandon Graham is the most complete prospect(with a huge upside) at the position, but still think we’d need the second coming of Strahan to make taking a DE at #15 worth it.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Morgan is a top 5 potential DE. If he falls to us we’d be lucky which is why he’s BPA. Morgan is probably the 2nd coming of Tuck.
He is absoltely worth the #15 pick, he’s a better college player then Brian Price..that’s for sure.
Not saying Thomas covers Jackson man to man…he covers him like a safety, but Jackson’s not getting deeper then ET back there.
Brandon Graham is a speed rusher…..we have Osi and Kiwi who do what Graham does. He is not the most complete DE, that would be Morgan.
Graham is a late riser. He’s probably about as small as Dwight Freeny, but he doesn’t have Freeny’s speed. I’d be skeptical of Graham and unless we’re switching to a 3-4, a 6"1 255lbs DE is not one I go with.
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
You are entitled to your opinion
I disagree with most of what you are saying, but arguing specifics with someone who won’t bother to consider other viewpoints would be foolish and a waste of time.
Also, a 3-4 DE is typically a bigger guy. Freeney is an exception, not the rule
Bleeding Blue since 1962
never said anything about a 3-4 DE. Freeny is a 4-3 DE.
Graham’s the same size, probably smaller then Freeney. Graham’s a 4-3 OLB or a RDE in a 4-3.
Giants have 3 RDE’s, and only Tuck.
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
“I’d be sleptical of Graham and unless we’re switching to a 3-4, a 6’1” 255lbs DE is not one I go with"
Bleeding Blue since 1962
the comma is the key!
“unless we’re going to a 3-4 COMMA..
indicating skeptical unless we’re going to a 3-4.
Then!
6"1 255lbs DE is not one I’d go with.
Sorry I need to spell it out for ya Mr. 1962
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
You definitely weren't clear
and the assumptions made about RDE & OLB are just wrong and baseless. The only time you even consider a DE for OLB is if he isn’t big enough to play end in either scheme,
If anyone were to read the comment at face value, equating Graham to a 3-4 DE would be the natural perception of what was said. I had an idea that you could be alluding to the OLB position, but that is not what what was written, comma or not. I think that if you are going to be dedicating your life to writing on forums, you may want to consider learning proper grammar and syntax, especially when “trying to spell it out” for someone(a sarcastic comment and weak attempt at a zinger, by the way).
Making broad, sweeping comments betrays the veracity of the entire lexicon of statements of the same source. Repeating them and attempting to enforce them betrays their integrity.
We are all entitled to our opinions. We all know what opinions are like. Be careful not to be thought of as a major opinion.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
And just so ya know, I disagree with most what your saying
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 23, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Free Agency Wont Cut it.
I like the obvious which is Mcclain, and earl thomas. Hands down most need positions, and although a DT and or RT wouldnt anger the masses I think. Our defense needs to put our offense in better positions. I just think that although we are built to win now, Dansby, peppers, seymour, etc just arent gonna do what we need!!
but Free Agency brings stability and veteran leadership
taking some of the pressure off of the draft. You don’t know what you are really getting from a rookie. You know what you are getting in a veteran free agent.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
I agree
and 2 spots that will be lacking a veteran presence next season are the LB corps and the Safeties. There aren’t many options at LB but I think they will be able to bring in an experienced safety, and hopefully a good one unlike cant-cover.That will be extremely beneficial to KP and any rookie that gets drafted at the position.
15 is a good number
by I_Formation27 on Feb 24, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Good point
But there is a huge drop off in experience from him to Goff+Sintim.
15 is a good number
by I_Formation27 on Feb 24, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Well maybe its a good thing
All the experience that Pierce and Clark had together didn’t account to much in 2009.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 24, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Pierce
To be fair, he only played 9 games. 4 of those were losses obivously. He had decent production in the NO and Ari games, combining for 19 tackles…It obviously wasn’t enough but many other players had worse games on D (C.C. Brown). The drop off from his injury was more apparent in the last 2 games he played against Philly and SD, but we simply got blown out by Philly and there were plenty of missed opportunities (Boley int), and same w/SD game (Webster/Rouse giving up late TD to Jackson). No comment on Clark. Basically I think a healthy Pierce for 16 games would have accounted for Something.
15 is a good number
by I_Formation27 on Feb 24, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
fre agents
what about we sign aaron kampman
by hotshot5568@aim.com on Feb 23, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Think of the pick that our NEW D-coach
would need.
In Buffalo…the SECONDARY was their strength as
evidence to the INT’s they had.
Ours…well let’s not put it entirely on the secondary
the D-line lacked penetration. When u have that
the secondary will be able to make plays but were
exposed when the line NEVER got to the QB.
I think the plan is that they’ll spend on LBs in FA
for the veteran play and leadership. The D-line
has issues but there are players to which to work.
We’re going SAFETY…from what I see…but then
Reese has been picking these types the last few years
and this puts into question if he’ll use/WASTE another
number one on the secondary.
So what do you have? FA signing for a Veteran SAFETY
quite possibly as well as FA signing for LB.
The #1 pick for the Giants will be OL.
Haha Pick up Sharper for a year or two. Develop Myron Rolle. I don’t think they will Hit the OLine rd.1 TC and JR both said the line will stay the same but maybe with WB involved more. It’s all DE this year. But If Spiller Falls which is Possible with No combine workout but the 40 may be a Choice here at 15. Rolle however my Bromance
by RagingBattleAxe on Mar 1, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
Dude I tried to watch some combine on Saturday...
then I was like… why the F am I watching offensive linemen run 40-yard dashes
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Mar 1, 2010 7:34 AM EST up reply actions
You kind of knew that was going to happen.
Now they’ll be lining up to draft the next Chris Johnson. Al Davis reportedly had several nocturnal emissions last night thinking about CJ.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
I'm going to assume you mean CJ Parker
From Baywatch
Always thought they were gutless for not naming her BJ Cummings
Safety
I’m with you on the safety position, although id go taylor mays for his size, 6’3’’ 230 ? DAMN THATS A FAST SEMI LOL
Giants Draft
Lets get an offensive linemen with fresh legs who is willing to learn our system
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