Daily NFL Draft Prospect Profile: Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
As we continue our series of NFL Draft prospect profiles (I seem to write that phrase almost every day, I know) let's look at one of those 'potential vs. production' player NFL scouts and general managers have such a hard time deciding on.
That would be Florida defensive end Carlos Dunlap.
ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. had Dunlap going to the Giants in his initial mock draft. So do many other mock drafts I have seen.
Is it smart for the Giants to use their first-round pick on a defensive end? I'm not sure about that. If they do go defensive end, is Dunlap the right guy? I'm not sure about that, either.
He is a guy who many think has top five or six talent in the first round. But, there are concerns about attitude and passion that might lead to Dunlap falling farther than his talent would indicate in the April draft.
Let's take a closer look.
Carlos Dunlap Scouting Reports
From SB Nation's Mocking The Draft.
Has seen plenty of time inside and outside, left and right. Was moved all over the place at Florida, creates mismatches and absorbed double teams across the line. His best performances have come from the inside as a pass rushing defensive tackle.
Dunlap is the kind of player that will be drafted higher than what his production would lead one to believe. The physical tool set that he brings to the table is as good as it gets and any defensive line coach that is confident in their ability to get the most out of a player will drool over Dunlap’s potential. Dunlap has shown flashes of being unblockable, but those kinds of performances were too few and far between, as his lack of consistency was maddening to watch. There are motivational issues with him as his level of effort given on each play is up and down. Because of the physical package he brings to the table and the flashes of strong performance, Dunlap could break his way in to the top 10 because of the ceiling he possesses. However the underachiever label that has been placed on his name will scare some away because of the contracts that will be required that high in the draft.
From Walter Football, which was not very complimentary to Dunlap at all.
Summary: At times I will see Dunlap make a nice hustle play, but these moments are few and far between. He'll make a tackle for a loss when he wasn't even blocked, but this doesn't show up statistically. Dunlap is an extremely overrated prospect with very poor intangibles. He could get drafted anywhere from the top 10 (Jamaal Anderson/Derrick Harvey) to the second round (Calais Campbell).
Player Comparison: Jamaal Anderson. Anderson has had a mediocre work ethic and played very sloppy, lazy football for Atlanta. I anticipate the same for Dunlap in the NFL.
Walter Football also said "Doesn't seem to love the game."
From ESPN.
Work ethic and effort in practice have improved over the past three years but he still needs to mature and become a more consistent player. Recent DUI arrest (12/1/09) adds to character and maturity concern. ...
Flashes the ability to toss interior offensive linemen to the side. Flashes the ability to collapse the pocket coming off the edge. Shows an effective spin move and has the potential to develop an arsenal of pass rush moves.
Sideline Scouting has this to say.
Dunlap has huge potential, but needs to be more consistent. He has about as much upside as anyone in this years draft.
Why Dunlap fits with the Giants
Pass-rushing defensive ends are valuable commodities. It's why the Giants will do everything possible to keep Osi Umenyiora. It's why some team will spend a high draft pick on Dunlap despite the concerns about his work ethic. If the Giants think they need to move Umenyiora, and replace him in the draft, Dunlap will be on the list of guys to take that spot.
Why the Giants should pass
I am coming around to the idea that a pass-rushing defensive end would not be a horrible selection. But, Dunlap might not be right pass-rushing defensive end. Derrick Morgan of Georgia Tech is a guy who works harder and has been more productive, and Jason Pierre-Paul of South Florida might also be a better option if the Giants really wanted to go in this direction. If the guy isn't willing to work, that had under-achiever and huge headache written all over it. If the Giants want that, they can just keep Umenyiora and go in another direction with their first couple of draft picks. The more I do these profiles the more I realize there are a great many tremendous athletes out there, and that work ethic needs to weigh heavily -- especially when this type of money is involved.
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I wouldnt like the pick
This is the highest we have picked in a while (which is good!). I dont want to take a chance on a player at 15 if he lacks motivation and hustle. In a way this WAS his contract year. If that wasnt enough to make him hustle what will happen after he gets a fat pay day??? If it were at the bottom of the round or in the second then maybe.
Depends...
IHe’s intriguing cuz of his athleticism and potential. The fact that he’s moved around a lot and seemed to be better as a pass rushing DT makes it depend soley on that interview JR and whoever get with him.
He’s got as much potential as anyone…boom or bust to be certain.
THere’s a entirely too many options there at #15, but I’ll trust JR on this one (..on any one for that matter).
If he checks out…take him. If not, let the Eagles take him.
I AM SOFA KING!!!
-Wei Todd Ed
Makes no sense to me
Even if Osi goes, we still have sintim to put his hand on the round if needs be. Dunlap is not necessary for the NY football giants.
But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!
pretty sure sintim
is only 5-10 lbs lighter then osi.. just as tall and fast tho i beleive
Is it baseball season yet??
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 18, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think Sintim needs to put on weight to be a DE
Don’t forget we have Kiwi as the starter. So Sintim could play SLB in the base defense then move to DE in the nickel package where he will be just pass rushing and won’t be dealing with run defense.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 18, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
AND
You know how much we would owe a first round DE, smh not worth it, i would rather a DT we have enough people who can play defensive end already. plus tollefson isnt that bad as well as once canty gets fully acclimated there is another person who can slide to end so nope not in favor of a DE at this pick, maybe 3rd or 4th rd
But dont tell em i told you that !!!!!
Not in favor of this AT ALL
Ummm Cedric Jones anyone? The guy was preparing for the SEC title game, one of the biggest games of his career to that point, and he gets so smashed he falls asleep at the wheel of his car. Not the dedication I want to see out of such a high pick. Stay as far away from this guy as possible.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 18, 2010 11:57 AM EST reply actions
I would not be happy...
if the Giants drafted a DE. Would much prefer an O-lineman at 15 if it came down to it.
Dunlap reminds me of....
A little Italian car I had in college. It had looks, it had style, and it took you were you wanted to go…..if it wasn’t cold…..or raining……or humid. As it turned out it worked well about half the time and looked stylish on the back of a towtruck the other half. If you’re a football player, in your early 20’s and looking to make an NFL career and be drafted in a position to set you up for life and you still can’t find the motivation, please find another team other than the Giants.
wouldnt mind the pick if he wasnt a head-case
the amount of telent somebody has is useless if his attitude isnt there. gimmie guys that love the game, love to play. cant have some guy half-assin his way to a view million dollars no matter how high his ceiling is. even if Osi isnt there, stay far far away from this guy
Is it baseball season yet??
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 18, 2010 12:11 PM EST reply actions
No DE
Dunlap is a head case that wasn’t great this year. to many other needs than to draft a half motivated DE when we have 4 starting ones and like 2 pass rushing specialist let’s not waste this pick i don’t think we will be this low for a while so any take the best DT or SS.
I think..which is rare these days..
That we really don’t have a problem at d-end…drafting an end woud be a bad move in my opinion…We need DTs and a good veteran MLB and a Safety in case KP doesn’t make it back and Ross’s terminal hamstring injury doesn’t heal..I really think Osi will regain his confidence in his knee and bring his attitude from the bench to the field..Shit Lindsey Vonn just took the Gold in the downhill on a bum shin..I don’t know if any of you guys ski raced, but I did and what she did is incredible..So anything is possible..Keep our DEs intact..fix our MLB, DTs and get some safety insurance and we will be fine.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
You guys who just don't want a DE don't get the point of this....
absolutely, Dunlap probably is a bad pick.
But the DE position, if we’re getting someone like Derrick Morgan, who’s a lot like Tuck and could be used like Tuck, is an excellent idea.
I’d rather go Morgan over someone like Brian Price if they think Price will be no more then a solid player, yet Morgan could be an all-pro.
He’s a type of DE who will either be like Justin Smith or Justin Tuck. Either he’ll just be a solid pro, cuz he can stop the run. Or he’ll be an elite DE, like Tuck, who can stop the run and rush the passer.
What if they’re able to shit-can Osi, keep Kiwi in as a specialist, and have Morgan and Tuck who can both stop the run and the pass?
Dunlap may suck as an idea…but drafting the BPA if he’s a DE does not.
…didn’t we prove that who’s starting doesn’t matter?
Depth along the DL is never a bad thing, especially if they’r a player the caliber of Morgan.
I AM SOFA KING!!!
-Wei Todd Ed
Dunlap
is definitely a boom or bust player and the 15th pick might be too high. But I can’t take seriously scouting reports that refer to intangibles. If they are intangibles how the hell do you scout them?
I get why Dunlap turns off some scouts, because at his size/speed they expect him to obliterate people and he hasn’t. At least he hasn’t on a consistent basis.
But if JR thinks this guy is the real deal, I’d be on board.
But if he and Morgan are both on the board, I'd take Morgan
Both are good against the run and get after the QB, but Morgan has a better motor.
Either way the team would be getting a massive DE to anchor the line. A guy that could collapse the pocket from the edge, not just run around it. I’d love to see how teams would respond to either of these guys lined up next to Tuck. With Canty and either Kiwi or Osi on the other edge.
when you put it that way
your almost making me change my mind… osi canty dunlap tuck with kiwi comin in and out would be a force to reckon with. just get your head right carlos and your all good in my book
Is it baseball season yet??
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 18, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
exactly...
I’d definitely take Morgan over him,
I’d take Morgan over Brian Price actually…
I AM SOFA KING!!!
-Wei Todd Ed
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 18, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Well Free..I agree with drafting the BPA..I always have believed that..
But we don’t need a DE..if that is the best choice on the board when we pick then fine we have to…We need a experienced MLB , a DT and a Safety..I think/hope that Canty will be fine and I think/hope Osi regains confidence in his knee so he can get back on track to working on his run defense skills and also learn better rush maneuvers..I am also worried about Ross I never heard of a hamstring pull lasting a year..something is wrong there..so they may need to look for another CB..When I played I pulled both of mine and was back in four weeks..Now obviously that wasn’t the NFL, but it was the same injury and I blamed myself for not loosening up properly before I went on the field..I really think Osi, even though I was down on his spouting off will be fine this year..this is his personal test with his knee and he should overcome his confidence in it by September…So I maintain that DT, MLB, and SS is what they should focus on…but again grab the BPA..and I hope that would be Spiller.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
draft prospects
um just curious but when are you gonna profile a guy by the name of Sergio Kindle? reason i’m asking is he did play in one of the toughest conferences in the nation, against the best offensive lines in the nation, and did you see the game he had against alabama? the guy is a beast almost the same player Brian Orakpo and he made the pro bowl this year. just asking.
by bleedblueandburntorange on Feb 18, 2010 1:42 PM EST reply actions
I still think that the best choice is to trade down, especially if McClain is off the board
And a QB falls that causes another team to pay at least the full freight for #15.
I could be very happy with Darryl Washington, Nate Allen and Chad Jones. That would be a huge speed upgrade up the gut of the defense, and coverage upgrade as well.
You could sub out a safety for Jared Odrick, Price or Williams if one of them fell (depending on the new trade positions). Especially Williams, a big guy next to Osi could help him.
Nope
I would have trouble picking guys at #15 or in that range that have so-called motivational issues, nyet….BTW, who the hell is Sergio Kindle (missed the memo on him?)
Ya I saw kipers
New mock. That pick was out of left feild I haven’t heard aNything about Kindle. I’m now sure if he is a 15 pick
by bigblueguru on Feb 18, 2010 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Kindle is not who the Giants need, that's who.
If we were talking about Kindle vs. Clint Sintim…I’d be a lengthy debate, but overall if I was drafting either or I’d take Sintim.
Kindle’s not who the Giants need. He’s a SLB in their system and strictly that.
Kiper’s mocked Dunlap and now Kindle to the Giants?
Does he insist on giving the Giants athletic underachievers?
I AM SOFA KING!!!
-Wei Todd Ed
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 18, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
You should watch him on Mike and Mike
He is a prime example of the value of being first on line.
When ESPN started to cover the draft, there was no one in that niche. He started it out of his dorm room. Never even claims to get out and talk to coaches or have scouts in his employ. He has almost no idea of what the NFL team needs really are. I don’t even think that he knows which teams play 3-4 or 4-3.
Not that I love him, but Matt McShay makes far more sense. At least he has reasons and tries to match BPA/Need.
McShay's actually quite the moron as well
he found the niche of sounding smarter then Kiper…as well as disagreeing with Kiper.
They’re both idiots.
I AM SOFA KING!!!
-Wei Todd Ed
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 18, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I actually
prefer to stay away from the ESPN self-promoters as much as possible … though I prefer McShay if I have to choose.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 18, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
idiots as far as the dribble they spew out
they’re geniuses for finding their niches…
I AM SOFA KING!!!
-Wei Todd Ed
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 18, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Unless it's someone different,
I think his name is Todd McShay.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 18, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
LOL!!..Damn I love it when you hit the nail on the head..haha.."Windbag"..hahaha
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
No
I wouldn’t like this pick unless we traded osi and dunlap falls to the second, or 3rd (doubt it). At #15 I can’t see us taking him. If he is a project, and unmovated then there is no value with that pick
by bigblueguru on Feb 18, 2010 3:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Dunlap
I live in Florida. I saw alot of Mr.Dunlap ,took off alot of plays.Looked unmotivated most of the time.To many better propects out their to even consider this one at #15.
Is it possbile that Florida simply doesn't put in enough effort on the defensive side of the ball
Spikes and Dunlap have both tumbled, and I know that their DC left in disgust. Is it possible that Meyer mainly recruited great athletes for his D and then didn’t really develop them?
I think that McClain and some of the others playing for defensive minded head coached benefit more from the coaching.
I'm not sure about that
Their defense was still very very good and productive.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 18, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
good but it might be a lot of the system
look at all of the UF defensive players failing in the NFL.
Florida
+1 Your correct their seemed to be no passion on the d side of the ball. It was all about TIMMY! Defence was not an equally coached up unit
Florida defense gets by almost purely on talent, not coaching.
That being said…
OVERRATED:
Carlos Dunlap – He’s Alex Brown 2.0. Not bad, but not worth a first-round pick.
Major Wright – Always almost making the play. (No, he did not play for the 2009 Giants.)
UNDERRATED:
Brandon Spikes – Just hits people in the backfield a lot. That’s what he does. Why he’s slipping is beyond me.
JUST RIGHT:
Joe Haden – he really is all that.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
Good assessment
Hugh, though I’m a little cool on Spikes. My impression of him is that he didn’t really cover very well and lacks fluidity on the field.
DEFENCE
True, tyey were very good but they had some pretty good draft classes so the defence should at least be good but didnt live up to expactations.Alabama shreaded them.My point is defence was not the priority
Put Dunlap in a Sack
Why invest big money in a guy that doesn’t want to be there? No motivation? No first round pick. I wouldn’t even consider a guy like this in the first round. How did that Gholston pick work out for the Jets a couple of years ago?
Taking a DE at 15
would be a clear sign that JR and TC are not optimistic on Osi dominating again. If that is what they think, we should certainly get a pass rusher ahead of other positions.
LarryHarryCarlPepper
Superman
Superman can lift the world but, not if he is asleep.
Stay away from guys that lack consistency. You can’t depend on them.
Well I survived another frigid game coaching Little League..I took
Great Gatsbys advice and wore three jackets..underneath my team shirt..(he suggested a sweatshirt but I opted for overkill) Well, one kid got hit by a pitch and when I ran over to bend down and make sure he was okay, my daggone team shirt split / tore right in half..!!..Everybody in the stands laughed their asses off..because I heard something rip and immediately reached for my ass to make sure it wasn’t my f-ing pants..those people were still laughing when I left after the game..You had to be there…My wife hollered: " Its your shirt!!!"..haha She was howling all the way home..I must of made quite a spectical of myself..All I heard was a tearing sound and reached for my ass to see if I ripped my pants..To Great Gatsby..thanks for the advice..I am proud to report that I stayed warm, and you should be proud to note that both bleachers erupted in laughter watching my act..We got home a little over an hour ago and everytime I walk by my wife she starts laughing out loud…I can only assume that it must have been very funny..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

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