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Daily NFL Draft Prospect Profile: Chad Jones, S, LSU

[Remember to check the '2010 NFL Draft' section for all stories relating to the draft.]

As we continue our series of NFL Draft Prospect Profiles, let's look at a player who mans a position of need for our New York Giants and is seemingly rising up those mysterious draft boards.

That would be LSU safety Chad Jones. He is an imposing 6-foot-3, 230-pound safety who lacks experience, but apparently not talent. Not long ago, Jones figured to be a guy who would be available in Round 2 and most of the mocks still have him there. In fact, several have the Giants taking him in the second round. It seems, though, that Jones' stock is rising quickly and he may not be available to the Giants at No. 46.

Let's take a closer look at why Jones is shooting up draft boards.

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Chad Jones Scouting Reports

From DraftAce.

Elite size for the safety position. Has experience at cornerback and safety. Great ball skills. A hard hitter. Good tackling technique.

Only one full year as a starter at free safety, so he's still very raw. Actually better at man coverage than in the zone at this point in his career.

Has the ability to develop into an elite safety. His biggest asset is his versatility. He has size and athleticism to play either safety position. His size will allow teams to get creative with him on the field and potentially play him closer to the line of scrimmage at times to assist against the run.

From SB Nation's Mocking The Draft.

With the physical package he brings to the table and his experience in the speedy SEC conference, Jones could be a pre-draft riser all the way in to the top 20 picks of the first round. Also a pitcher for the Tigers baseball team, the two-sport star has the kind of physicality that makes a huge difference over the middle with just his mere presence. His ability to tackle in the open field has become a lost art in the NFL, and every team is always looking for defensive backs that can be relied upon as a last line of defense. While his coverage abilities are up and down, the potential is there for Jones to be one of the best safeties in the game. With baseball and school out of the picture, Jones will be able to focus solely on his game which has never been the case. High ceiling prospect here that has the capability of being an immediate starter and Pro-Bowl defensive back.

From Fantasy Football Toolbox (this was written in November, early in the 2009 season).

Jones has been blessed with natural athletic talent, standing at an imposing 6'3'' and 230 pounds. He can run under 4.5 in the 40-yard dash, has great hands, and -- not surprisingly -- is one of the hardest hitters in Baton Rouge.

Jones is just now starting to put all of those tools together for real success on the football field. ... NFL scouts love nothing more than potential, and that alone should garner Jones a second-round selection in the 2010 draft.

Why Jones fits with the Giants

It's pretty obvious, really. The Giants need help at safety, and this appears to be a player with immense upside. And he might still be on the board when it comes time for the Giants to pick in the second round, though Jones is a player about whom there seems to be a lot of recent buzz. You can't fix all your problems in Round 1, and if they go elsewhere with their first choice Jones seems like a guy you could get excited about if he was there at pick No. 46 for the Giants in Round 2.

Why the Giants should pass

Well, to this point Jones has been more potential than productivity, so you are gambling on what you think he can do. Of course, in a way you are doing that with any draft pick. If the Giants go safety in the first round Jones would be over-kill in the second. Also, perhaps they will try to fill their safety need with a free agent like George Wilson of Buffalo, a player whom Perry Fewell coaches and is apparently enamored with.

(E-mail Ed at bigblueview@gmail.com. Follow Big Blue View on Twitter.)

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If he's there when

the Giants pick, I’d love to get him. I really want a Polamalu-type S more than anything, but’ll be happy with a BPA defensive guy.

by blue gonz on Feb 17, 2010 8:13 AM EST reply actions  

This guy

sounds like he would be a really good get for the Giants. We’ll see what happens.

by Ed Valentine on Feb 17, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I really like

The Fleur-de-lis tattoo on his arm. Geez, it still feels early for the draft.

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by Hoyadestroya85 on Feb 17, 2010 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

Early

Sure it is But, hey, gotta talk about something in this longer than we want it to be off-season.

by Ed Valentine on Feb 17, 2010 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Seems a lot like Adrian Wilson

I think he may shoot up the board to where if they do trade back in the mid 20’s…they could grab him then. I could care less if its a reach too.

Seems a lot like Adrian Wilson.

Between Jones, Nate Allen and Earl Thomas (that’s like…6 potential first names!) I agree with the thoughts that he’s got a ton of potential, maybe more then any safety in the draft, so I like Jones the best.

The biggest thing with him…he played baseball. I’m pretty sure I read that he’s only considering football, which is good.

How good is he gonna get when he’s only gotta focus on football?

If they can..I’d love to see them trade back in the first and grab Jones.

Well see as the offseason goes by, he may not be a reach at #15 either…

I AM SOFA KING!!!

-Wei Todd Ed

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 17, 2010 8:45 AM EST reply actions  

You like Jones better than Earl Thomas?

That’s very Al Davis of you. He has better physical measurables, but Thomas is the better football player.

I know you watch a lot of college football too, soI know that you can’t honestly say that you thought Jones is the better player. He is just the flavor of the month.

I’d like him in the 2nd or 3rd round if he is available.

by ggggmen08 on Feb 17, 2010 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Potential I'm talking about

Jones too is a very good football player. He’s a solid second rounder right now…but realize, the guy was a 2 sport player..a damn good pitcher at that.

Right now..ET seems like the better player.

I don’t think they could go wrong choosing among ET, N8 Allen and Chad Jones. But while the first 2 get unfairly compared to Ed Reed and Polamalu…this guy and Adrian Wilson are a lot a lot coming into the league.

I’ve always seen Jones potential as being higher, but if he’s ready to play right now…there’s no doubting his size makes him a bigger difference maker.

And he’ll probably run in the high 4.5 to low 4.6 range..so Al Davis?

Al Davis is Taylor Mays.

Chad Jones is more then a physical freak.

I AM SOFA KING!!!

-Wei Todd Ed

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 17, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Right now Thomas IS the better player

I guess it is a personal preference of whether you want to draft on potential or draft an immediately ready-to-play guy.

I’ve seen Jones arrive late on passes many times. That’s why he is able to lay out so many receivers with big hits, because he is late to the ball. I like the guy, but he is not as good as Thomas on the field.

Earl Thomas flies to the ball and picks it off. He comes up and fearlessly to make stops in the run game. If he were 6’3 and not 5’11 you would be drooling over him. Don’t let the size impact your judgement.

by ggggmen08 on Feb 17, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not?

You look at every aspect of a player’s worth: skill, smarts, speed, strength, potential, etc. Size is a part of that.

by GhostDini on Feb 17, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

On field production trounces physical measurables

Al Davis would love to have you on his staff evaluating talent. All you would have to do is go to the combine and pick the biggest, fastest guys.

Thomas is a very smart football player with tremendous skills. He diagnosis run vs. pass extremely quickly. But, he isn’t as big or fast as Taylor Mays. So would you rather have Taylor Mays?

by ggggmen08 on Feb 17, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Read it again

I list skill, smarts, speed, strength, potential, and size but you say that I’d pick the biggest and fastest guy. I couldn’t have been more clearer that they all matter.

by GhostDini on Feb 17, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Thomas vs. Jones

Thomas is quicker, faster, smarter, and has better ball skills.

Jones is taller, bigger, stronger.

Not sure how you want to determine who has better potential. Seems like a matter of opinion. Not sure it can be determined. Based on this, I’d rather have Thomas.

If KP comes back, Thomas would be a very good FS to compliment KP. Chad Jones is a SS all the way.

by ggggmen08 on Feb 17, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

how do you know?

no 40 time for either player but if your going off games played it’s the big 12 vs SEC speed. Everyone seen the last two national championships the SEC play faster speed than the BIG12 faster receivers faster running back plus the SEC run more so Chad Jones should read and react to run or pass quicker

by omfGIANTS on Feb 17, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm going off of game speed, not 40 times. But Earl Thomas will have a faster 40 time also.

And are you kidding me with the SEC vs Big 12 argument? Are you trying to argue a guy is faster because of the conference he plays in?

I think the SEC winning the NC maybe had a little to do with Colt McCoy getting hurt. But if you think it was because Chad Jones is faster than Earl Thomas, I’m glad you aren’t the GM of my favorite team.

Diagnosing run versus pass has to do with how fast someone reads their keys, not on how fast you run a 40. It takes smarts.

by ggggmen08 on Feb 17, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

We're not talking about Taylor Friggin Mays here.

Jones is a good football player, with football speed…not 40 time speed.

If Mays is like Roy Williams…..Jones is like Adrian Wilson.

I AM SOFA KING!!!

-Wei Todd Ed

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 17, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I understand, Free

But I’m using Taylor Mays as an example. Chad Jones didn’t exactly light the college football world on fire with his production, so he is being based more off of potential than production. And his potential is based on the fact that he is big and athletic.

I’d rather have a smart guy like Thomas that reads his keys extremely fast, which enables him to make plays on the ball.

by ggggmen08 on Feb 17, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

that's the thing about him playing in the SEC...

really, its all about the running game down there..who really has a great passing offense?

Earl Thomas has plenty of time to shine cuz he’s got a ton of offenses to play against that run gimmicky shotgun offenses.

Just the fact that Chad came from the SEC…should mean he’s a solid player.

I AM SOFA KING!!!

-Wei Todd Ed

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 17, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

In addition to winning the Maxwell Trophy,

Brad Van Pelt was a great pitcher. Most thought he’d opt for baseball (it paid more then), but he liked FB better The Giants converted him from DB to OLB, certainly one of the five best the Giants have had (2nd best OLB IMO.) Anyway, Jones’s and pitching skills reminded me of Brad. If he’s half as good, I’d be happy to get him.

by blue gonz on Feb 17, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

KP

KP’s return from injury will really determine how high we take a safety.

KP showed in the Dallas game just how could he could be and if he makes a full return from injury (and by accounts he is doing well) then do we really need another top draw Safety along side KP.

Pro – we have two good to elite safeties which makes our passing defence that much better.

Con – if KP plays the deep safety will we be using this guy(or anyone else) to his best ability at close to the LOS.

My view – we take a decent safety in the second round and even consider moving up a few spots if need be (it would cost a 4th or 5th) to get a good safety to pair with KP.

This leaves our first pick to go for McClain or one of the decent OT’s who should still be on the board. If McClain has gone and so have the OT’s we rate then we look at plan B which would be a DT or Spiller.

by G Fan in England on Feb 17, 2010 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

There is no way to know

what KP will be like. He won’t even be allowed to run until Spring. The Giants need to proceed as though they need to replace him, I believe.

by Ed Valentine on Feb 17, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

In which case

We may use the first round pick on a S – but I guess they might consider sliding back in that case to pick up an extra 3rd to draft a DL/OT.

KP seems to be dealing with the mental part of his injury which is always a good sign.

by G Fan in England on Feb 17, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

There are 2 safeties on the field

If we can get this Chad Jones along with KP our secondary will be much better than it has been in the last few years.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 17, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

no way we go with a OT in the first round

we have more immediate needs on “D”. Besides it’s my belief you can get servicable linemen in later rounds…..idealy I would like to see the Giants sign Dansby then go draft Earl Thomas in the 1st.

by giantsNYrangers on Feb 17, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd love to get George Wilson...

but again, if they trade back it makes it easier to deal with. Sign Wilson for the probable 3rd round tender (?), trade back and be back in the third round again.

Agree Ed, they should be looking at KP like he’s not even there (and actually…like no other safeties are on the roster either..cuz they stink)

Say they come out of FA and the draft with Wilson and Chad Jones, then you got KP and Mike Johnson in the rotation? Aaron Ross, Webster and TT as the CB’s?

YAY!

Jones and Boley are damn near the same size too. Maybe they could use Jones and BOley as the nickel LB’s, with Ross, KP et. al back there in coverage?

I AM SOFA KING!!!

-Wei Todd Ed

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 17, 2010 9:06 AM EST reply actions  

That would have us giving up our 2 & 3...

for the same position. Do you think that makes sense? I’m calling that a wild pitch.

I like the George Wilson thing, but, even considering that KP doesn’t return(which is unlikely, due to the high success ratio of his particular surgery), we would have to get our second safety later on or for something other than a draft pick.

Don’t you agree?

Bleeding Blue since 1962

by sunlion333 on Feb 17, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

He hasn't been tendered yet...

so I dunno where you get the 2 and 3.

If its only the 3, and they trade back into the third after signing Wilson, its a win.

I AM SOFA KING!!!

-Wei Todd Ed

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 17, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

The 2 is for Jones, the 3 is for Wilsons tender

which will most likely be for original pick position. Wilson was a UDFA which makes it a 3. Now, per chance the Bills don’t tender him(unrealistic), then I’m on board.

Bleeding Blue since 1962

by sunlion333 on Feb 17, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I got you...

and no, I don’t think its overkill.

With the premise that KP is thought of as a non-factor for the entire 16 games..I want all the talented depth at safety I can get.

2, 3 safeties..so be it.

Wilson AND Jones would be great

I AM SOFA KING!!!

-Wei Todd Ed

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 17, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Where did I overspend?

trade back, get Jones/Allen in round one…get back third rounder.

Didn’t we see what basically having Kenny Phillips as you safety can do? He goes down..were completely F’d in the A at the safety position.

Are you serious? You’d rather just get say…Wilson OR a rookie safety, and simply leave KP out there expecting him to play 16 games?

We keep 7 picks. Get a young safety AND a veteran safety.

…exactly…where did I over throw my limit on the credit card?

I AM SOFA KING!!!

-Wei Todd Ed

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 17, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

if hes still around by 2nd round pick

theres no way you cant take him, unless earl thoms is picked up in round 1. the size and speed of this kid is remarkable for a safety. would love to have a another huge hitter next to KP smashing people over the middle.

almost worth what free stated earlier.. trade back in the first, get him late 1, then pick from that deep group of DTs with that 2nd round pick

Is it baseball season yet??

by Plaxico Burress on Feb 17, 2010 9:09 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with Ed.

We would all love to see KP come back at 100%, but we need to plan as if he will not be available at least this season. Perry Fewell does great work with DB’s so this guy could turn into a real difference make if we draft him. And if KP does come back healthy then we will have 2 terrific S.

by Giants56 on Feb 17, 2010 9:09 AM EST reply actions  

Spiller

After reading all the posts yesterday and watching the highlight reel Freebradshaw put up and watching apiece about spiller on sportscenter,Imo this kid is a must have! A real threat to take it to the house EVERYtime he gets the rock. This kind of talent is rare. Then in rounds two through seven we can address are defence which i know we must.

by costanza! on Feb 17, 2010 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

where the highlight reel?

cant find it

Is it baseball season yet??

by Plaxico Burress on Feb 17, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Free

Freebradshaw had it yesterday on one of his posts.Perhaps he will be kind enough to put it up again. how bout it free?

by costanza! on Feb 17, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Waiting for the combine

When I watched the BCS title game, Earl Thomas did not look 5’10" 197 lbs. to me. That was some generous measuring by the Longhorns staff. I’m hoping to get a true measurement at the combine. If he’s as small as he looked, Chad Jones and Nate Allen might become more attractive to the Giants.

by GhostDini on Feb 17, 2010 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

Don't worry about the size

How did Earl Thomas play? He played a great game and that’s all that should matter.

I would also be shocked if he is shorter than 5’10.

by ggggmen08 on Feb 17, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Regardless, I'd rather have Allen or Jones, but I believe Allen is faster

Thomas will probably be out of our reach and I, and alot of NFL personnel guys, see him as a CB.

Bleeding Blue since 1962

by sunlion333 on Feb 17, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Size isn’t everything and he WILL be available @ 15.

London Fletcher-5’10
drew brees- 6’0
desean Jackson- 5’9
Ed reed + Troy polamalu- 5’10

those are some examples of undersized players that play BIG.

by MIKES92 on Feb 17, 2010 9:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Don’t start talking about size……. They said the same thing about desean jacksons size and he’s a game breaker.
If we really want cj spiller, then we would trade Brandon Jacobs for some picks or a safety, or dt and our offensive philosophy would change with Bradshaw, spiller, and brown. If we could get a chris Johnson type player, I’m all for it…. As long as our other needs are filled to.

by MIKES92 on Feb 17, 2010 9:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Getting hit is harder than hitting..?..
I play football and in on defense. I’ll tell u that getting hit takes a bigger tole on your body than hitting someone.

by MIKES92 on Feb 17, 2010 9:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

played WR and LB in HS

went from 2 way starter junior year to only OLB senior year and i agree… getting hit is way worse then doing the hitting. thats y an RB like jacobs is such a threat (except in 2009).. D players arent used to getting hit

Is it baseball season yet??

by Plaxico Burress on Feb 17, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

You are definitely missing my point

And you’re talking to a guy who played football most of his first 22 years on the planet. You, obviously don’t need to be bigger to be a receiver, although that seems to be a trend.

Steve Smith(Car), Santana Moss, Percy Harvin, Ted Ginn JR. (don’t laugh), Lee Evans, DeSaen Jackson, Greg Jennings, Wes Welker, Devery Henderson and our own Steve Smith and Mario Manningham are all sub 6ft.

I’m thinking it will be harder to find that many small safeties.

Getting hit is a much different dynamic than hitting and is independent of size. Also, I said tackling not hitting, even though it incorporates hitting.They say that the reason Emmitt Smith’s career lasted so long is that he went limp whenever he was hit, saving him from some of the wear and tear.

Bleeding Blue since 1962

by sunlion333 on Feb 17, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Well...

I woudn’t mind if they moved Ross to safety permanently, size, range, not afraid to stick his nose in there in run coverage. It might help a bit with his seemingly chronic
hamstring issues as well. You need more speed, and more stop & go movements at corner, then you do at safety.

by Great Gatsby on Feb 17, 2010 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

Mario Manningham ...

They said, please get that young man a compass, they said….hahaha

by Great Gatsby on Feb 17, 2010 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Well, to this point Jones has been more production than productivity

Was this a typo, or is there actually a difference between production and productivity?

by XLII on Feb 17, 2010 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

Typo

“more potential than productivity.”

by Ed Valentine on Feb 17, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Figured as much. Btw Ed, keep up the good work with this profiles, they are very informative. I guess my knowledge of college football has tapered off in the past couple of years, so a lot of these players and their information is new to me.

by XLII on Feb 17, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

If he's there I would get him..

"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

by Bobbiblue on Feb 17, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

What ever happened to Myron Rolle?

He seemed to be one of the biggest risers heading into the Senior Bowl, but I haven’t heard of anything since. He was a top recruit out of high school, a prime physical specimen, and seemingly a smart guy (Rhodes scholars often are). This sounds like great match, especially since the highest I’ve seen him considered is the 3rd. Is everyone simply holding their breath until the combine?

by RealLT on Feb 17, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

Late second is not too early for Rolle

But there are probably plenty of people who’d disagree. He was solid – not outstanding – in college, but he’s got upside out the wazoo. And the Rhodes Scholar thing cannot be minimized on a defense that just lost its leader. Rolle is really a round 3 pick, but I wouldn’t complain if we reached a bit. I would hate to see him in a #($*ing Eagle uniform.

I left my swagger in my other pants.

by HughG16 on Feb 17, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd love him...

If he’s a second rounder……

Safety is not a value pick in the first round. But I think that this guy proves that there ARE viable options at Safety other than Berry, Mays etc…..

DT first, safety second, let CJ Spiller send us a postcard because even if he runs back 3 kicks a game, with our D we still lose 48-45. Thats too painfull to watch.

by dubsrub on Feb 17, 2010 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

no perry fewell is

cmon free i thought u were up on this stuff

Is it baseball season yet??

by Plaxico Burress on Feb 17, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I like McCluster too.

I’m sick of watching DeShawn Jackson burn us all around the field. I’d like the Giants to get some payback, and McCluster can do it.

by lizard on Feb 17, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

< On the McCluster bandwagon.

15 is a good number

by I_Formation27 on Feb 18, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

McCluster..

crackbacked him. Not their is anything wrong with that. I thought McCluster was going to run over him or something. Not a big deal.

by lizard on Feb 17, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I like him

in the 2nd. If he has any coverage skills, thats an upgrade over what we have.

by ryanwk628 on Feb 17, 2010 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

Any safety we draft this year

Any safety we draft this year will be superb (With the possible exception of Taylor Mays). Perry Fewell specializes in developing safeties. Hell, he turned a wide receiver coming out of college into an elite safety in the NFL (I’m talking about George Wilson).

Whatever safety we take in the draft, there should be no worry about production. The problem with Chad Jones is that he is late to the ball at times. Troy Polamalu can lay the big hit and defending the pass. Chad Jones just lays the big hit and his timing is a bit off at times. Let’s just say all those receivers hold on to the football after his hits? What about then? What if he has to play in the box and cover tight ends and such? Will he have much success then? Chad Jones is somewhat of a risk but a hell of an athlete. He also had a great game vs Penn State a couple of months ago.

by Nfpdawg on Feb 17, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

If the Giants are going more in the direction of Tampa 2

Then even though I think that Thomas is a better talent than Jones, Jones would be the better choice, especially as a #2.

In the Tampa base D, your safeties are about intimidation. I have no comment about Thomas’ size or ability on this matter, but you can’t argue with Jones as a fit as a deep safety playing aggressively with the game in front of him.

by giantblue63 on Feb 17, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Also

Its the package of players:

If McClain falls in round 1, and you get Jones in round 2 (or Nate Allen) the draft has been a bonanza.

If the team takes Thomas in round 1 and the best players on the board in round 2 are S/WRs/QBs, its not as good.

But with the way it seems like tons of guys are moving around the draft charts, who knows what is going to happen.

by giantblue63 on Feb 17, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

Perry Fewell

He doesn’t run strictly Tampa 2. He’s a lot like Leslie Frazier in that he runs multiple fronts and formations, even though the base D is “technically” Tampa 2. He also adapts to his personnel too. So all that “10 yards off the WR” crap that he did in Buffalo could be adjusted to fit our CB’s strengths, which is press coverage. Also hold into account that Jauron was a defensive coach and had a lot of say in his defense.

by Nfpdawg on Feb 17, 2010 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Here's a link

to where you can watch some videos on a lot of different prospects including most of the ones mentioned on BBV

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=ProDraftParty#g/u

by Gmen_Fan_Forever on Feb 17, 2010 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

notice...

that player with the golden helmet between McCoy and Suh?

That’s the 3rd best DL in the draft. He may not wear #91 cuz he wants to be like #91, but he sure as hell is a whole lot like #91, you feels?

Giants #15 overall pick Derrick Morgan? Hellz yea.

I AM SOFA KING!!!

-Wei Todd Ed

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 17, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Man Coverage vs TE's?

One thing that Chad Jones brings to the table that Earl Thomas probably can’t is a nice matchup against TE’s. We all know our LB’s (except maybe Boley) aren’t very good in pass coverage. And now, more and more teams are moving to spread formations with H-backs out wide. Mr. 5’10-190lbs would probably just get boxed out while Chad Jones (who was a former CB) has the size and ability in man coverage to do some damage. What do you guys think?
I looked up how those monster TE’s in the NFC East did against us and it wasn’t pretty. Witten was shut down that first game (I’m sure everyone remembers KP’s off-the-foot int) but then got 14 catches, 156 yards against us in the rematch.
Brent Celek got 60+ yards and a TD in both games.
Cooley got 68 and a TD. After he went on IR, Fred Davis got 65 and a TD.
Also: T. Gonzalez: 82 yds, 1 TD
We did manage to shut down Z Miller, Gates, and Shockey though.

by Charles L on Feb 17, 2010 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

+ about the highest number in numbers.

not the highest of numbers…cuz Gates basically shut himself down by dropping a bunch of passes.

The Desean Jackson thing will get played too…but Jackson torched the Giants largely because of the incompetence of CC Brown/Sheridan and Aaron Ross never playing safety (maybe if he has some more experience there..he makes up the 5 inches that separated him from making a play on that deep pass to desean?

Boley was good last year..but as far as man coverage with TE’s? No.

Maybe him playing zone over the middle or covering the back, and letting Jones cover the TE is a solution?

Boley and Jones are both about the same size!

I AM SOFA KING!!!

-Wei Todd Ed

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 17, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

On the play where Ross might have stopped Jackson

IT also featured the pass rush stopping by at the nearest Starbucks for a quick latte

by giantblue63 on Feb 18, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Some of that can be blamed on Sheridan

IIRC he made Kiwanuka get his latte from downtown.

by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 18, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That damn Sheridan

No I know why Osi stormed out of that meeting

by giantblue63 on Feb 18, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

er... looked up how we did on FBO

looked up how we did against TE’s on Football Outsiders
we were 18th against TE’s in DVOA, and 30th in YPG. pretty terrible, but… we were actually 30th in DVOA vs #1 WR’s. Screw that. I hereby nominate Joe Haden for the Giants’ 2010 #1 overall pick. Or hire Plax to “accidentally” take out the other teams’ #1 WR before games.
seriously though, we play in a division with no real “elite” WR’s. We do, however, play against inarguably the best set of TE’s in the league.

by Charles L on Feb 17, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s not because of the CB’s. I like our CB’s. (I’d have no problem with Haden tho…)

That’s because the defensive line can’t get sacks. Most likely cuz the entire line was injured in some way. Also, Sheridan was incompetent.

I AM SOFA KING!!!

-Wei Todd Ed

by FreeBradshaw on Feb 17, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry but

I think Miles Austin and Desean Jackson are excellent receivers, and yes I hate them both

by wangstu13 on Feb 17, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

One year starter at FS.

Is that really what the Giants are looking for? He’ll be on the sideline the whole year.

by Wilba on Feb 17, 2010 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

Donovan Warren

Does anyone have any info on how Donovan Warren is doing and what round is he projected?

by moncho619 on Feb 18, 2010 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

Wouldn't

be mad if this guys sportin a Giants uniform next season. And I also agree that we need to address the safety spot as if KP is not coming back, which means we have zero quality safetys. Fewell is good, but not turn-CC.Brown-and-A.Rouse-into-studs good. Michael Johnson has proved to be a back-up. I’m sure there will be more than 1 new face at the S spot next season.
Not really convinced that Aaron Ross can be succesful at safety but who knows, maybe dedicating a full off-season to the conversion would prove me wrong, and with Fewells coaching there is a greater possibility of this happening.

15 is a good number

by I_Formation27 on Feb 18, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

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