Gilbride haters, please close your eyes
by Ed Valentine on Feb 13, 2010 9:43 AM EST
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PrintFar from getting rid of offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride, the coach so many New York Giants fans love to hate, the Giants are apparently doubling their pleasure.
Philly.com is reporting this morning that the Giants have hired Gilbride's son, Kevin Gilbride Jr., as offensive quality control coach. He replaces Sean Ryan, promoted Friday to wide receivers coach. Giants beat writers have been hinting about this on Twitter for the past day or so, but this is the first official report I have seen.
The younger Gilbride has been coaching wide receivers at Temple University.
OK, now that I have given you the news I am going to duck for cover.
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Uh....
Wow?
"The Dallas Cowboys might be America's Team, but the New York Giants are America's DREAM team." -- Robert Tisch
The Giants
have not officially announced this. But, it’s out there and I would think the official word from the team is just a matter of time.
Son of the father...
is not necessarily of the same mind of the father, and vice versa. Don’t know if this is a good move or not, but I assume the Giants know a great deal about who they’re getting and I’m not going to have a fit about it. I’d hate to think that everyone I know believes my father and I agreed on everything, or that my son and I would be of one mind either.
Look at Brian and Marty
Schottenheimer… couldn’t be much more different as coaches. Think you could argue that Monte and Lane are pretty different too. As much as I don’t like Gilbride, I’m still far more pissed that our ST coach still has a job and we passed on Bobby April.
And then...
watched him get snapped up by Philly. Wonder how many DeSean is gonna take back against us this year?
Special teams
Yes, I have been calling for Tom Quinn’s ouster. I just do not understand how he keeps his job. The special teams have been atrocious.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 13, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I'd like to respectfully disagree
While the special teams coverage units have been terrible, there are other successes that quinn has had.
For example..
-He has helped Lawrence Tynes become a much more consistent kicker than he was in the beginning of ‘07 when he came to the Giants.
-Zak Deossie went from a guy who didn’t snap before the giants to a long snapper we barely ever talk about (a good thing.)
-Guys like Chase Blackburn, Terrell Thomas, Domenik Hixon and Derek Hagen have excelled on coverage teams.
I think it’s more a function of personnel if anything. Maybe he’s cheap?
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by Hoyadestroya85 on Feb 14, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Can't be personnel
The Giants have had plenty of talent, even in 2009 when they had a disappointing year. If they were 3-13 I would say it’s talent. But, when you go to the playoffs most years it’s not lack of talent.
And, with all those guys you mentioned why are the special teams not much better?
by Ed Valentine on Feb 14, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
erm, deossie was drafted
full well knowing that he could long snap.
we never had a chance with april
as long as fewell is our D coach april would never be second fiddle to him again…he felt sh*t on in buffalo cuz he felt he should have coached out the rest of the season
by LT's Will Power on Feb 13, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
I agree a change needs to be made...
when it comes to the “not very” special teams coach. You can have a bad year and keep your position if you’ve had previous accomplishments, but a bad careeer shouldn’t be excused.
Don't worry Gilbride haters
all he will be doing as quality control is cutting up film and getting coffe for his dad. He won’t have any imput on the game
by Landeta on Feb 13, 2010 10:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Not a bad resume for his age
http://www.owlsports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=261&path=football
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
Maybe his son
can tell senior that the play clock is 40 seconds and starts as soon as the play is over?
Bye, AP :(
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by sudden death overtime on Feb 13, 2010 10:53 AM EST reply actions
The Giants coaching staff
is one of the least talented in the league for the caliber of franchise they are. This reeks of cheapness. Sorry but it does.
I’m not a big fan of seeing people lose their jobs but Quinn should have been fired as quickly as BS.
You think there's an NFL team that goes out of its way to find a Quality Control coach?
Yes…Quinn deserved to be fired last year.
But how exactly does this ‘reek of cheapness’?
Least talented coaching staffs? Perry Fewell was a HC last year and a DC for a number of years. Kevin Gilbride while many don’t like him, created a passing attack that had 4 different WR’s go to the Pro Bowl. Different…WR.
Few of the position coaches were still here from the SB winning team.
“least talented? Are you serious?
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 13, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
?????
Wow, talk about blind criticism. Actually add deaf and you’ve got a winner.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Let's look at all the coaches
and the Giants continued tendecy to promote from within.
TC – Above average
Fewell – Ray Handly was a HC too does that make him good? We’ll see with Perry. I do like this hire but he has to prove it. Buff has been nothing special on D.
Quinn – Awfull.
WR coach zero experience
QB coach – zero experience
Our secondary has been a weak link for years and we stick with Gunta and Merritt?
TE – coach – awesome.
RB – Good
LBs?
DL?
OL – Good
Not impressive for a team that fancies itself among the elite. I said least talented for a top tier team, not the Raiders.
Why did we not get a very good special teams guy and QB coach? If not for the cost?
The Patriots promote from within every single year. Works for them
The Cowboys have Wade Phillips as their HC…who’s relatively incompetent. How does he compare to coaches like him and Norv Turner?
The Eagles have Marty Morhningweg ‘hired from the outside’ as their OC. LOL! Why does hiring from the outside have to do with it?
Impressive? What the hell do you want?
No team in the NFL has a group of """""all-stars"""""" as their coaching staff, there is no such animal.
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 13, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmmm......
TC- Above average? The above average coach doesn’t have a long history of winning records and a SB.
Gilbride as much as some like to bash him is a very good OC. I’m serious, stop laughing.
Perry Fewell is unproven with our team, but has shown enough to warrant the hiring. You really didn’t think we were going to ressurect Jimmy Johnson, did you?
The breakdown of the position coaches shows a complete lack of knowledge of what the job entails and the way it is staffed in the rest of the NFL. Scan all of the other position coaches in the league and you will be hard pressed to find mpore than half of the lot who haven’t coached 3-4 positions over their carreers. There are many who never played the respective positions and are very successful.
To be fair, none of us is well enough informed to evaluate a professional football coach in the NFL
Quinn- there is little chance any of us will disagree on his lack of effectiveness.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
ummm...
With eli’s skill and the great potential of our wide recievers I think we can get past gilbride’s, sometimes strange, play calling.
When Belichick is training the Giants position coaches
I’ll be all for promotion from within. The Patriots are the team of the decade and BB is possibly the best coach of all time. Any comparison to the Patriots is way off the mark.
Wade is a joke but that’s because Jerry is the Joker.
I’d be happy with proven competence.
These days..
It is unbelieveable how many assistants there are in today’s NFL per team.
To be honest, I didn’t even know until this year the Giants had two yes, yes two coaches for a secondary. I knew about Giunta, didn’t even know they had a safeties coach
You think there's an NFL team that goes out of its way to find a Quality Control coach?
Someone tell me what the hell the role is for this “Assistant”?
Maybe his son
can tell senior that the play clock is 40 seconds and starts as soon as the play is over?
FreeBradshaw on Feb 13, 2010 7:44 AM PST
LMAO!
What the hell is a "Quality Control Coach"??
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
A strong rumor has also claimed that..
Wiley Coyote is leaving his job with ACME Inc..to coach the Giants D-line..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Did somebody actually post
the giants have a bad history of hiring assistants!?
Lets see in they’ve hired Lombardi Landry Schotenhimer Parcells, Bellicheck, Weis, Crenel, Coughlin, Mike Nolan, Jim Fassel, John Fox, Sean Payton, Spags. Guys like Chris Palmer, Gillbride, Ron Earhart struggled with HC jobs but are all well respected coordinators. I’m sure I missed a few but that’s a pretty good list over a 50 year time span, probabbly top 5 or 10 in the league over that time period.
by Landeta on Feb 13, 2010 2:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Above average doesn't mean good.
It means above above average. Average being 16th in the league.
I left Gilbride off my list on purpose.
I just feel that more turnover was warranted after last season and not changing the special teams coach in particular is a total disgrace.
how is he an average coach?
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 13, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I somewhat agree with that
TC isn’t the best of coaches. From 1 to 10 id give him a 7.
He is sometimes too loyal to players / coaches that he shouldn’t play / hire, he sometimes challenges ridiculous things (especially when they are losing), and generally whenever the team isn’t playing like they should he has that lost look on his face that does not instill confidence in his players.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 14, 2010 4:16 AM EST up reply actions
never understood the 'he's got a lost look on his face'....
cuz the camera pans on him for 15 seconds that means he’s always got a ‘lost look’?
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 14, 2010 7:45 AM EST up reply actions
Not always
only when were losing, if you don’t agree rewatch the 2008 playoff game vs the eagles.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Feb 14, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
exactly.
Its just a camera panning to him for 5-15 seconds.
For all anyone knows, 2 seconds after the camera goes away he’s lacing his team a new asshole.
You can’t go by what the camera says for 5-15 seconds.
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 14, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
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