Daily NFL Draft Prospect Profile: Navorro Bowman, OLB, Penn State
by Ed Valentine on Feb 12, 2010 11:00 AM EST
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Our series of NFL Draft prospect profiles who might interest the New York Giants continues today with a look at an intriguing linebacker -- Navorro Bowman of Penn State.
Bowman is a player who most scouts seem to believe has first-round skills and the ability to play all three linebacker positions.
But, off-the-field trouble might have Bowman headed for a Mario Manningham-like fall in this April's draft.
The question NFL scouts have to answer about Bowman does not appea to be about talent. It appears to be about attitude, and whether or not his off-the-field issues are isolated incidents he will grow out of.
Let's take a closer look.
Navorro Bowman Scouting Reports
SB Nation's Mocking The Draft has this to say about Bowman, a 6-foot-1, 230-pound linebacker capable according to most reports of playing all three LB spots.
He has a shot at being a top 20 pick because of his NFL ready speed and quickness. In a league that placing less value on size and more on speed, Bowman is going to be sought after by many teams. The lack of size will likely be an issue for Bowman however, and it could keep him off the field in a starting role for the first year or so. Linebackers that play as physical as Bowman but don’t have the size are an injury risk. But if he can stay on the field, his level of play will be a factor if he can get the protection up front from a big, blocker-eating defensive line.
Fantasy Football Toolbox is unquestionably enamored with Bowman's skill set.
Navorro Bowman is the best 4-3 outside linebacker prospect for the 2010 draft. Bowman has great speed for a 232-pound linebacker and is equally effective rushing the passer or dropping into coverage. Bowman has obvious first-round talent, but his mile-long list of off-the-field incidences might scare some teams away. ... Bowman is excellent against the run, and rarely misses a tackle if he gets his hands on the ball carrier. He has solid coverage skills, and the speed to turn and run with NFL tight ends and running backs. He will need to work on not biting on play action, because his speed won't save him at the next level.
Why Bowman fits with the Giants
The Giants, obviously, have a need for speed and athleticism at linebacker. Bowman possesses those traits. Besides, how can you ever go wrong with a Penn State linebacker? Also, if Perry Fewell is going to play mostly zone coverage, Bowman seems to have the skills to fit into that scheme quite nicely. In a pass-happy league that is more about speed and quickness these days than size and strength at the linebacker spot, I don't worry about Bowman's relative lack of bulk.
Why the Giants should pass
Bowman might be a great guy, but he has had a pair of run-ins with the law while at Penn State. Arrests for disorderly conduct and marijuana possession have to be considered. The Giants need to be sure all that stuff is behind him.
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If he drops...
to below 3rd round, great! I would rather draft proven talent in the first 3 rounds, that are not going to be potential distractions.
I would never select a player that has already proven to be
An idiot..by now they are as about mature as they’ll get..He sounds like a loser right out of the gate..Especially in NY..He’d be an accident waiting to happen.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Stop with that nonsene.
You’re saying everybody is as mature at 21 as they are at 31 and 41? Get real.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 12, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Our last Superbowl Hero was a guy who struggled with pot and alcohol but got his shit turned around.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 12, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Ahmad Bradshaw was kicked out of UVA
And he seems to be working out pretty well for us. I think we are trying to put together a solid football team, not a choir practice. Sure you want good characters, but every team will have some questionable guys. What keeps them from going off the deep end is good leadership.
Making mistakes in college
do not always translate to your professional life. True, that in the nfl it’s easy to mess up because of inflated ego’s and wallets but I would give him a shot ( not in the first round though ). Disorderly conduct is barely a crime, more of a violation ( being drunk in public ) and I’m sure there are a number of players in the NFL that smoked or still smoke marijuana. Bradshaw was mentioned as being a troublemaker, as was Ham and they’re doing fine so far. Plus we just got a free agent LB who battered his wife two years ago. So this guy seems like an angel compared to that.
honeslt tho
who hasnt had a run-in with the law during college for pot and disorderly conduct????
Is it baseball season yet??
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 12, 2010 12:00 PM EST reply actions
Does HS count?
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Feb 15, 2010 7:26 AM EST up reply actions
a lot of today's greatest atheletes have had torubles with pot
Tim Lincecum, Santonio Holmes, Michael Phelps. Those are just the ones i can think of off the top of my head. If hes got the skills take him, especially if he drops to round 2 and 3.
Is it baseball season yet??
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 12, 2010 12:02 PM EST reply actions
I'd expect
Plaxico Burress to come to the defense of the future incarcerated…
…kidding aside, Ed I’m lazy what were this kids stats in college, tackles, tackles for loss, injuries etc.? Any comparisons to guys; he sounds like Kawika MItchell the LB we had a few years ago that probably was very instrumental in getting us to the SB but that no one talks about. Mitchell seemed like a smaller guy to me.
by nyGTrenches on Feb 12, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Well good point..When I was young..
We got pulled over by a Trooper..I had spent the whole ride rolling doobs..When he frisked me he found two cigarette packs in my pockets..all joints..He didn’t stick them in a plastic bag…or mark them for evidence or read me my rights or threaten to call my parents..Nothing…The SOB stuck the two Marlboro packs into his own damn pockets !!..and told me “Boy, don’t you know smoking is bad for your health?”..and sent us on our merry way.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I don't see the problem......
…..with disorderly conduct or pot. Wait, let me reload my Bong. LOL
The problem is that we don’t need to draft another OLB. We’re gonna dump at least one LB this year and it won’t be Goff, Sintim, Boley, Blackburn, Kiehl or De Ossie. That gives us 4 OLB’s. a MLB and a guy who can back up every linebacker spot. Sintim and Boley will be the starting Sam and Will. That leaves us with Goff as our top MLB prospect.
I’m not so sure I’m comfortable with that.
MLB
Free Agency
Dansby- at what cost?
Ruud- will probably get a new contract
Ryans- Interesting to see what Houston does
Draft
Rd. 1 McClain
Rd. 1-2 Spikes
Rd. 2-3 Washington
Rd. 3-4 Angerer, Lee
Rd. 4-5 Sharpton(a tackling machine)
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Demeco is my favorite FA prospect
Is it baseball season yet??
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 12, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Defensive tackle
take a MLB later in the draft with out a tackle to eat up linemen our linebackers will always be blocked in the second level of the defense just like QB’s MLB’s need tackle protection
totally agree
we need to be taking both positions in this draft, and possibly more then one of either. one without the other next year will do us no good
Is it baseball season yet??
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 12, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Since when is smoking weed a problem for
an NFL player?
I hope it does drop him to the 2nd round.
Bye, AP :(
Penn Stater here
I wouldn’t be worried about Bowman. He had some problems when he was a little younger and pulled himself out of Joe’s doghouse. He then had a death in his family, smoked a little weed, and voluntarily confessed to his probation officer and had his probation extended. He strikes me as the type of guy who will never get in trouble again. He became a bit of a physical freak in the last two years, and has a nice motor. Seems very simliar to Stinim, I’m not sure we need him, but hey we always need more speed in the LB corp
I don't have a problem with a little weed..Except
When I became a parent..My thought is never tell your children not to do something if you are doing it..So I quit all of that crap…Plus I was flying 56 million dollar planes..that helped..haha
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
kinda hard to fly the planes with squinty eyes lol?
Is it baseball season yet??
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 12, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
flying higher then the plane!!
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 12, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Haha!!..no never did that..Would have been nice though..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
its just...
I doubt there’s a whole bunch of NFL players who have never smoked weed in their life.
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 12, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
but there is a whole bunch
that still do
Is it baseball season yet??
by Plaxico Burress on Feb 12, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
When
did this become the ganja lounge…it’s too hazy in here.
While I agree we need a DT to take some heat off the LB we need someone for insurance at every position that we can develop…Sintim still is unproven, Goff while we are all high (pun intended) on him hasn’t proven he can stay healthy or man the position, and Boley seems to be fine IF he stays healthy…love Blackburn but I want to see him flying around on ST.
Needless to say....
….but if a talent like McClain falls to us at #15 we have got to jump on him. There are DT’s. MLB’s and S’s of quality in Rds 2-3, but our Rd 1 pick should always be a playmaker or an impact player.
A solid DT would be an impact if he can simply hold his own at the NFL level.
I am pretty partial to us restoring the status of NY Giants Linebackers, though.
Bleeding Blue since 1962
Agreed Agreed Agreed
We were so weak up the middle and that is DT, LB, Safety pure and simple we’ve all said it a million times, we need impact players immediately in those three positions.
Incidentally I just looked up the LB on the Bills roster and they are All in the 6-1 or 6-2 230’s range. There is no secret behind why Perry wanted those guys. Including the former Giant K. Mitchell who is the heaviest linebacker on the roster listed at 6-2 253 (he plays smaller I’d bet).
We didn't make the playoffs..Our lives will be boring until September
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Big PSU fan here.
Bowman is a a great player, no doubt about it. Off field problems are nothing, no worries there. The only issue I see is his conditioning, he always seems to get tired midway through games. He would be a great get for the Giants, but not at #15. 2nd or 3rd round would be a steal though, IMO.
Maybe special teams
If we can get him the the later rounds, then sure. We can use a little “criminal conduct”, so to speak, on our special teams.
OI812
Draft board
wouldn’t we all like to get a look at the Giants draft board for this thing?
I like the idea of Bowman in the third, but it depends very much on your perception of Kehl and Goff. I am not sure they have proven to be any more than Chase – a good ST player and backup.
So if Sintim starts at SLB and Boley is at WLB and the Giants draft a MLB – then the second string is set with OK players. Can Bowman push one out – is his upside worth adding him to that set of LBs?
He's gonna end up in Cincinnati..
Now a little trivia for you, who said it:
“The next guy who throws something, somebody please point him out so we can get his ass outta here, you don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati”
Answer to come later…
I read at SI.com
the bengals are interested in Matt Jones and PacMan Jones. Will they ever learn?
"Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty."
by Mother Tucker on Feb 12, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
So is Earl Thomas...
what’s your point?
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 12, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Its Navorro Bowman...
Ive watched him at penn state for a couple years now, the guy is a beast. He is a first round pick in my opinion and a very good one at that. Hes the type of guy who is ALWAYS around the ball, he is a speed guy who seems like he is flying rather than running.
but can he play MLB?
I know he saw a few games there…but you think he’s got a chance at being the Giants MLB?
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 12, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
We have a winner...
Um….Sam Wych or sum such spelling?
by Cranky50 on Feb 12, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, Cranky, you just forgot the e at the end of his name. Geez, I thought that would be tougher to get, But I remember how funny Wyche was at the time, it stuck in my head for some reason.
I never could spell well...
But Mr. Wyche was an “interesting” coach and quite a character. I suspect the journalists who covered him had a whole lot more fun with him at press conferences and interviews than those who cover TC, as he actually said something…..and one could never be sure what it might be. I remember when he said that, as it sure got a reaction in Cleveland!
I read at SI.com ...
the bengals are interested in Matt Jones and PacMan Jones…Why don’t they pick up
ex-Giant, Homer Jones too.
why don't they sign Plaxico?
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 13, 2010 8:32 AM EST up reply actions
Is everyone here ...
on board with the idea that Sintim is ready to be a starting SAM next year ? I loved what I saw from him in pre-season last year. Looked like a beast.
I can’t say that I remember much about his play in the real games, though, other than that sack (against Dallas ?) where he was completely unblocked, so tough to get too excited about that one.
If he and Boley are legit, the need narrows to MLB, and short of McClain, it looks like nobody is saying there is any real immediate impact guy in this draft.
I'm thinking he is.
Which is why I think either they don’t go after Dansby at all, or if they do, Mike Boley is cut
I wouldn’t be surprised if unless McClain is at #15..or yea, there is the possibility of a trade up for him (tho I HATE this idea) that they don’t go for a MLB until the middle rounds.
There’s only a handful of MLB prospects. Spikes I guess, tho round 2 only. Angerer, Jamar Chaney and I guess Sean Lee too (he’s 24, injury prone…but the talent of a 1st rounder…anything before the 5th I’d be disappointed)
I’m going with the expectation the LB’s are Sintim-Goff-Boley with Blackburn returning and Kehl backing up and a rookie backing up somewhere.
This is why I like Bowman, I think he’s got the versatility to backup the WLB and MLB spots and possibly outplay Goff?
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 13, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Correct me if I am wrong..
Don’t the Glendale Cardinals play a 3-4 defense? (having a brain cramp).
Also, is there a Univ of Phoenix, in Glendale? Hell, I have been to Tempe, Phoenix and even the Grand Canyon (where Northern Colorado U is located), never heard of the
Univ. of Phoeniz?
yes, they do play a 3-4
and the University of Phoenix is an online college
Bye, AP :(
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 13, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah yeah
I am familiar with the online thing…I was thinking an actual “physical structure” so to speak…
who gives a rats ass about disorderly conduct or weed, if it really mattered in the brutal
scheme of things, we would never have drafted LT
by sudden death overtime on Feb 13, 2010 11:42 AM EST reply actions
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