Daily NFL Draft Prospect Profile: C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson

He needs to be getting ten to 15 touches a game to get a big play.

So who will see a reduction in playing time Jacobs (assuming he is healthy), Bradshaw (again if healthy) who is similar to Spiller, Brown (on return from injury) or Ware/Johnson the guys likely to be cut for Brown and or Spiller.

I agree with Ed that we have more pressing issues on the team to take Spiller no 1, unless we are cutting Jacobs, Ware, Johnson and going with Bradshaw, Spiller and Brown.

nice

If he’s BPA at #15 and they can’t trade back? Yea, get him. RB was the problem for the Giants last year, not run blocking.

They need the 3 headed monster again.

BTW..Jacobs deserves to be cut for his “I need surgery, but I’m gonna play in >12 games so I get my games played incentive”.

Jake, how do you get games played incentive when your not on the team?

Agree with Ed.

This would be a luxury pick that the D cannot afford.

If ET and McClain are gone and the Giants do not see someone they are wild about, trade down, get more picks.

Jacobs and AB are not going anywhere. Brown in 2010 is anyone’s guess.

A LB whether it be Mcclain, spikes, weatherspoon, kindle just please take a game changing LB, i would not take a DT simply because we have some good ones and there are people like vince wilfork and richard seymour who will be FA and can both play inside in our scheme…….also at safety an ex giant ryan clarke from the steelers is a FA and would be good with KP if healthy or you can get myron rolle in a later round but 1st round simply has to be an LB.

but our defense was so bad that I don’t know how you justify a running back with the 1st round pick. CJ would add a dimension to this offense that we haven’t had for awhile, but I don’t see it happening.

CJ is basically a Reggie Bush clone, but a little faster.

Peppers would be way to expensive, and I’m almost certain that Osi will have a better year than Julius does, especially after getting the payday he’ll get.

Osi = $3M
Peppers = $14M or very close(He was getting over $16M with the franchise tag)

The math is pretty clear.

If the Giants made this pick it would say to me that they are still stubbornly adhering to their run-heavy strategy when to me it is obvious that their best asset is the passing game. I’d much rather us spend our 1st rounder on a defensive player even if, god-forbid, he is not quite the BPA. Our offense will be just fine with the RBs we have, especially if we open it up a bit and let Eli do his thing.

Something called the salary cap.

we were going into a uncapped year?

pass on peppers

get Suh! (Hey, haven’t said it in a while). On a serious note, I am going to agree with a lot of the other peope and vote No on Spiller. Get a first round OL before a RB, but should be addressing the defense at least in the first 2 or 3 rounds.

If the Giants are sitting at 15 and DTs are a reach, and Thomas is gone and we’re not looking at good value in our position of need, and Spiller is sitting there… I’d still say find a team that desperately needs a running back and see what they’ll give us for the pick.
Defense, Defense, Defense!

As you have seen, the Giants rarely enter into a bidding war on top flight talent. Therefore, you won’t see them in the market for Peppers, even if his price came down a little. Osi, regardless of his recent outburst, is a bargain at $3M and will have a good year(contract and 2nd year back from a knee).

Kenny Philips will be back at whatever level possible. I don’t believe it should be the typical recovery for a knee, since it wasn’t ligament damage. After all he was playing on the injury with very little pain, but it was swelling up after games and causing him to miss practice. We can probaly get a very good SS in a later round and there are a couple of pretty good prospects in Vince Anderson and Sharef Rashad, who are on our practice squad.

This leaves us with what I believe we should do.

Rd. 1 If we’re lucky enough, McClain will fall to us. If not, the next MLB is only a 2nd Rd. value. If we stay at #15, we get the best DT available. Price or Williams will be here, but until the combine, the rest of the field may develop.

If we trade out of #15 for more picks, we still have a shot at these guys and it opens us up to pick in other categories, such as MLB and Safety. Our first pick needs to be one of immediate impact, so RB and OL are out of the question and we have a pretty good stable at DE, WR & CB, regardless of what people believe. I know the coaches believe we’ve got the talent there.

Immediate impact, not halfway through the season(ala Nicks). This would bring DT, MLB & S to the surface. Of those, DT is the highest need, because we pretty much know what we have there.

I have no doubt that Canty will have a better year in 2010. How much better is another story. Cofield isa quality player, much better than he showed, and sometimes it’s better to fly under the radar at DT.Alford was coming into his own before the injury. Bernard is just not even worth talking about. We DO know that we need the depth for rotation and a kid like Price or Williams would give us a solid middle.

MLB is a bit of a head scratcher. AP was having a good, almost bounce back, season before the injury, but we have seen his physical skills decline. He is still a wonderful defensive quarterback with mad recognition talent. That being said, we need his replacement on the roster, now. Is Goff the answer? Probably not, as he did nothing to distinguish himself last year. This need is pretty equal to the DT position.

Safety is a high risk/reward position. I think we nailed it with KP, but haven’t had too much luck with some previous players. It’s shown itself in the league time and time again. Roy Williams and Michael Huff come to mind.

Rd. 2 If McClain doesn’t fall to us and we stick at #15 here is where we get our MLB or S. On the outside chance we’re looking at OT here, there is an abundance of OT available in Rd. 1 and I see a possible 3 falling to us.

At MLB, Washington or Spikes will fit here. Spikes may not be all he was cracked up to be and Washington is a little small, but has the frame to add and is very aggressive and fast*.

At S, Chad Jones or Nate Allen(of course if Thomas is here it’s a different story, but he won’t be(even if I think he’s a little small)) are very attractive here. Jones has good size and speed, but will require more coaching at the NFL level and Allen, I think is the best prospect after Berry at this position. KP is our FS, but I’ve heard Dave Merritt say several times that they are interchangeable, so having 2 FS’s that can lay the wood would make our D-backfield a scary place to be going up for a pass.

At OT, which I don’t think is a real need, there are 3 that could fall to us and, if available, would be hard to turn down by value alone. If Bulaga or USC’s Brown fall to us here it’s almost impossible to look away. If Williams is there, we have to decide if RT is enough of a need for us.

I believe we already have solid line depth, especially at RT. McKenzie actually had a good year as revealed in his stats. Guy Whimper is a perfectly serviceable RT back-up. Beatty is our next starting LT and did pretty well backing up McKenzie and Diehl or Booth can step in in a pinch. With Diehl, Seubert, Ohara, Snee, McKenzie, Beatty, Booth, Whimper, Koets and the new kid, Taylor, we’ll be trimming before we’re adding at this position.

If we were lucky enough to get McClain, then we should go DT here, because there are some great prospects to be had here. Odrick, Houston or, especially Cam Thomas are all worthy of a pick at our Rd. 2 spot.

Rd. 3 Now we’ve got 2 of our 3 main defensive need positions filled, we can either fill the 3rd need or look for depth at other postions, including OL..

At S, Stuckey, Jones & Florida’s Major Wright are all good at this pick

At MLB. if Spikes is still on the board(highly unlikely) he would be a steal, but I think we’ve already got our guy at this point. Angerer, Chaney and Lee may be available in the 4th and I wouldn’t take any of them before then.

at DT, if we don’t have one and Cam Thomas falls to us, jump. If not, I love this kid, Geno Artkins’ athleticism, but think he might get swallowed up at the next level if left at DT(He needs to add bulk which may slow him). I believe he is more of a tweener like Tuck. There’s nobody else here that warrants a #3.

At OT, there’s not a prospect I like in this round.

That’s my current draft strategy for the first 3 rounds.

have fumble problems? I dont want to use a 1st round pick on a guy whos gonna turn the ball over. All-Day AP is the best back in the league but he turns the ball over. They couldnt go to him at the end of the NFC championship because of fumble problems.

This league is full of backs who were late round picks or UDFA’s. So much of it is a function of line and system. There are dozens of guys out there who can run a 4.5 and carry the ball, but were not as high profile as this kid.

Its not worth it.

He is worth the 15th pick, and if he’s there and Rolando and ET are off the board someone will try and trade up to get him. I think we trade down in this scenario. I love the kids potential and his gamebreaking speed, it’s just the Giants have been good at finding quality RBs late in the draft. I don’t think it would be a waste of a pick, I just don’t see it happening. I 100 percent agree with sunlion that the battles are in the trenches. Good Oline and Dline play wins games. But if the Giants do decide to draft Spiller I wouldn’t be too upset. I think we go after a LB or S in FA, maybe both. Not too many rooks are goin to step in and contribute immediately.

Would definitely be the sexy pick, but I’d be surprised if Pete Carroll doesn’t snatch him up right before us. You can find RB’s later on in the draft, Giants have too many needs on D to neglect. The fact is we haven’t picked this high in years so the possibilities are endless! We are all like “kids in a candy store”

but one more thing to think about:

If McClain’s gone and Spiller drops to us (he won’t, but…) we should at least consider him. A great RB covers for a deficient defense by keeping it off the field.

I think most importantly you evaluate your team then the draft and make it all fit together.IMHO I would like to build a passing team on offense and a pass heavy def.Pass heavy def being pass rush and ballhawk and if its not Mcclain in round 1 then wait for the 3rd at MLB b/c if we pass better than last year we run up the score and if they pass they get killed and picked off b/c running wont be an option if we do a little more no huddle and a little more playaction 4 crying out loud if Nicks makes the same size leap as HAM did this year and Barden can cure our redzone probs then all this should work really well.So you build a team where the parts work as a system.That is what i think a team is.That being said if BPA is Spiller than grab him…reminds me of Jamaal Charles.If u think playaction works great with him and you know you’ll do it more which is no given and ET isn’t there and you don’t like Price enough than take ’em.

if you read on u see what i’m talking about

Anyone else on here familiar with Dexter McCluster? I’m not sure where he’s going to fall in the draft – but this he is a phenomenal RB coming out of Ole Miss that I would love to see the Giants pick up, if we’re going to use a draft pick on a RB.

He’s small – 5’8" 185lbs, but the boy is wiry and slippery as hell. If the O line can open up a sliver of a hole, he’ll find it. This year he became the first player in SEC history to rush for 1,000 yards and receive for 500 yards in the same season. I’m sure most of you guys didn’t get to see an Ole Miss game this year (unless you watched the Cotton Bowl), but he is explosive. Take a look at his stats and see what you think: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=191216

but just in case, here’s some video of Spiller and why I would be thrilled if the Giants took him:

running back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH3AO_jvvvY&feature=related
pass catcher: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzhzMt6MvCY
punt returner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHKghRHiGv4&feature=related
kick returner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlyYj0HtY9c&feature=related