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New York Giants Notes: 'Exciting' Challenge Ahead

The New York Giants are well aware of the crowded playoff picture in the NFC. At 8-4, the Giants still face a difficult road to the playoffs, and they are braced for the challenge.

"I think that's what you live for and that's what you play for. That's exciting. You get to the end of a long, hard season and you're beat up and it's physically taxing, you want to have pressure and you want to have something to play for. You want to have excitement and things on the line at the end of the season and that's what you play for. I'd definitely rather be in this scenario than 2-10 and just packing up your stuff for the offseason," said Barry Cofield. "I would hope that everyone has all the motivation that they need, and if nothing else, you have to keep peace in this NFC. This NFC took a lot of criticism saying that the conference was mediocre, but it seems like a lot of teams are playing well. We have some good records, and you're going to have to finish with a strong record to be in the playoff hunt."

Offensive lineman Chris Snee echoed Cofield's thoughts on the playoff race.

"It's exciting actually. You get down to the games that are crucial, you're challenged to play your best and that's where the true competitors step forward and I feel that we're loaded with those on this team, so I am really looking forward to what we can do down the stretch," Snee said. "We're just trying to keep up with everyone else. You look at the score and you think New Orleans is going to lose and fall one back, but they come back and win and Green Bay had a huge second half and they win, Chicago wins, so just trying to keep up and not to mention most importantly, Philadelphia won, so the goal is always to make the playoffs, but we want to win the division, too, so the only way to do that is to win out."

Star-divide

As far as motivation for this week is concerned, last year's embarrassing 44-7 season-ending loss to Minnesota is still fresh in the minds of the Giants.

"Let's just say we haven't forgotten what happened there. I'll just leave it at that. We know what the final score was and we know what happened in there," said Snee. "It's already been talked about. Let's leave it at that.

"It's all about us. All we're concerned about is the way that we played and what we showed on that field is not indicative of the team that we are and the reputation that we have had over the years as a team that is going to play you for four quarters - we didn't do that and most guys were embarrassed by that performance, me included, and I never want to have that feeling again."

The Giants, of course, have survived the past couple of weeks despite being seriously short-handed on offense. Here is coach Tom Coughlin talking about this team.

"What we've learned about our team is that we have a number of guys who have got outstanding hearts, outstanding attitudes and they give outstanding effort and whatever we've asked them to do, they've done it and they've tried to do it to the best of their ability," Coughlin said. "It's not perfect, but we're getting some things accomplished and we're growing in that we've won a couple of games, we are in December - it is a critical time of the year - and more people are responding and when they are called upon, they have performed."

Coughlin was asked Monday about Bear Pascoe, whose shift from tight end to fullback in place of the injured Madison Hedgecock has worked out better than anyone could have anticipated.

"It's a tribute to his versatility that he's been able to play at first just to fill in at that spot and now literally to be able to play the second tight end spot or the fullback spot depending on what the play or the personnel combination calls for," Coughlin said. "His attitude is tremendous, his work ethic is outstanding and he will do whatever you ask him to do and he does do it with all of his effort and energy and he does it to the best of his ability, so he is a guy that just goes out and doesn't get a lot of attention, just does his job, but in the long run does it very well."

Coughlin did give updates on many of the injured Giants, and it seems the ones who have the best chance of playing this week would be wide receiver Steve Smith and offensive lineman David Diehl. Smith knows he won't be 100 percent, but is prepared to "deal with it."

"I know I’m going to have to deal with pain," he said. "It’s tough, but that’s how it’s going to be probably for the rest of the year. I’m going to have to learn to deal with it."

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This is Giants season!!!

This team is built for when the weather gets cold and the games start to mean something! LETS GO BIG BLUE WRECKING CREW!!!

by BigBlue82 on Dec 7, 2010 8:05 AM EST reply actions  

Rematch

I’m thinking how nice it would be for the Giants to beat the Patriots again in the Super Bowl.

by jessie1 on Dec 7, 2010 8:06 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah..the Patriots are peaking..could happen..If we match their intensity down the stretch..

One thing you’ll never see is TC rhrowing a challenge flag on a ball spot, knowing all along they were going for it…He blew the game himself before it even got going..Bonehead Coach of the Week..Open mouth insert foot, Rex!..Maybe you can join Rolle on his weekly WFAN radio gig.

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

...and TC would not have gone for it..they got lucky..could have been a double-whammy..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

how?

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Dec 7, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

If this was the 2007 Patriots

then it would be a different story. But this current Patriots team specialize in short-medium passes and trying to break them for big gains. They have 2 good TEs, a great receiving RB and a team full of Wes Welker type Receivers. In order to counter that you have to have good LBs or play more DBs(Colts game), that’s something we don’t have. We do get sacks, but we don’t bring constant pressure to opposing teams QBs.

I’m not worried about any team left on our remaining schedule, but if we were to play the Patriots… we would need our O to play to their max potential.

by jdaking123 on Dec 7, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

the Pats can be contained if you don't zero blitz them every snap

like the Jets do.

Their offense really isn’t as good as it looked that game. The Jets did a lot of stupid things in all facets of the game, lot of things the Giants don’t do even at their worst.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Dec 7, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

You know...

The Colts and Bears are the two most similar teams to us when it comes to defense. Even tho the Colts gave up a lot of rushing yards to the Pats… they held Brady to 186 yards off of 25 attempts. The Bears could tell us much more about the Pats, and how good or bad we’ll match up against them next week.

by jdaking123 on Dec 7, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

We beat an undefeated Patriots team..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

1 Thing..

we will do is stop the run, which was the reason the Jets loss. They were caught off-balance all game because they couldn’t stop the run or the pass. We will stop the run, force Brady to throw, and it’ll be Super Bowl XVII all over again.

by nicksdafuture on Dec 7, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Redskins 27, Dolphins 17

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by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I hated that superbowl

Idk how theisman pulled that off…

Just keep coming and we'll find a way to win, because the opportunity is there.
The opportunity is there.
Coach Coughlin

by Willgfass on Dec 7, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I don't even know anything about that superbowl

I just looked it up on wikipedia for names I knew to throw around.

Just keep coming and we'll find a way to win, because the opportunity is there.
The opportunity is there.
Coach Coughlin

by Willgfass on Dec 7, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we stack-up darn good against them..

And if we take care of business..I think that’s the team we’d be playing..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Without a deep threat

I think they match up perfectly.

With the problems we’ve had with big-play receivers (CJohnson, Bryant, Austin, Jackson, etc) and our playing wrong angles or coverages, their lack of a deep threat (Moss) helps.

I’d love to see us play them again, and I think we’d beat their butts again.

by prmmover on Dec 7, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I think we play better against deep threats

Because when we do go against a team that love deep routes, we can get more pressure on their QB.

I think against those teams we had a lot of sacks.

by jdaking123 on Dec 7, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

That would make sense

When running deep routes, the QB needs to wait for the receivers to run downfield. That gives our front more time to get through the OL to be able to pressure the QB. I can’t argue with that logic.

My concern is that the deep coverage isn’t all that great, i.e. with Rolle taking bad closing angles, and letting the receivers get behind our coverage. I feel more comfortable with keeping the receivers short and in front of us for some reason.

by prmmover on Dec 7, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I tend to agree with you..Keeping everything in front of us is a solid strategy..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Ive only seen us get burnt deep a few times this year

Its bound to happen sooner or later, but the deep coverage has improved tremendously this year.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Dec 7, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

NE Offense

so much better without Moss

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by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

They can play to their strengths, i.e. short passing routes and wily receivers who excel in YAC. Their offense really is built around long drives made up of lots of little plays, 3,4,5 yards per play, which consistently move the chains. They’re a timing offense, and need to convert a lot of 3rd downs (they’re 1st, 26 converts in 47 attempts, nearly 12 3rd downs per game average). However, their 3rd downs are usually shorter yardage, easier to complete.

As we complain about here, when you go deep a lot, and the play doesn’t work out, you’ve pretty much blown a down which you normally would at least get a few yards with the shorter run/pass. This can usually make your 3rd down attempts longer in yardage, which obviously can lead to less conversions. Without Moss, they don’t need to exploit the deep ball as much.

by prmmover on Dec 7, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This is what I'm talking about.

I don’t know where to get these stats, but I know for a fact(hope so) that our defense sucks on 3rd downs(specifically short yardage). We excel when we make teams give up on the run and go for bigger plays, then we can pressure their QB. The Pats are a throwing team, but they go for quick passes(which nullifies our passrush).

With all that being said, the only way I see us countering that, is if Kevin Gilbride is “Builddrive” and not “Killdrive”. Which means, we need our Offense to be firing on all cylinders for the Pats O to feel pressured to try and step up and make big plays. But if it’s Killdrive, expect the Pats to just wear down our defense with quick passes moving the chains.

by jdaking123 on Dec 7, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Took a lot of digging

But here’s the rank of all teams’ defensive stats, including 3rd down defense.

ESPN Stats

Majorly surprising… Giants are 3rd in 3rd down defense, Pats are 32nd. Wow. I was going to agree with you just by the “if it quacks like a duck-o-meter”.

by prmmover on Dec 7, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

WoW

It’s like everytime I watch the Giants, I get angry because a team gets a 1st down on 3rd down.

I guess you can throw my argument away and say we’ll kick the Pats ass again if they meet us in the SB :)

by jdaking123 on Dec 7, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta love the attitude..They know every game is a must-win game..

Their going into a dome, and lose the weather advantage so they’ll have to continue trending in a positive direction along the mistake/turnover front..Also, I hope they test the waters before going to Smitty or Diehl..I’d like them to not be necessary, but available.

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

Nice words from TC about Bear Pascoe....

   Hope he remembers them when it’s roster making time next year, as Pascoe sure should have been on the team to the start the year and we’re lucky he was available when he was needed.

by Cranky50 on Dec 7, 2010 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah Cranky..Bear has certainly earned his stripes..

Good to see him get the recognition for his efforts…and I truly believe he locked in a roster spot..Versatile players like him are very hard to find…That guy would re-sod the field if they asked him to..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

True, and if the groundskeeper's name was Hedgecock....

He’d probably do a better job at sodding than the guy he’s filling in for. (No disrespect to Hedgecock, thank you for a couple of fine seasons, but at this point, the Bear is better).

by Cranky50 on Dec 7, 2010 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha!..without a doubt.."Hand me the rake, Hedge"..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

those comments from TC

are about as great as he’s ever going to speak of any active player on his team

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by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

The Bear

should get the unsung hero award, so to speak…

Hey Ed:

Just a thought, when you do kudos, wet willies on Monday, how about adding an unsung hero of the week award?

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Dec 7, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Kudos & WW

I may do that. I have been thinking of ways to expand a little in the review beyond the K&WW stuff. You know, give you even less reason to go read that Garafolo guy.

by Ed Valentine on Dec 7, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL!!..Well you have already achieved that objective with me at least..Mike who?

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to go to the main SI.com site

No more, why go anywhere but here? This site has the best content and comments. The other sites just mirror or print blabber. Really.

What about some polls, like who deserves highest kudo, etc?

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Why is Tom Quinn still ST coach?

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 7, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I second that

the more polls the better.

And not the prilosec nonsense.

Just keep coming and we'll find a way to win, because the opportunity is there.
The opportunity is there.
Coach Coughlin

by Willgfass on Dec 7, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The only MIKE I read

is Eisen. I know its all sugar coated but I love every word.

by GiantLion on Dec 7, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

now that would be something...

if he re-soded a turf field, he is not Bomar! haha

by BigBlue82 on Dec 7, 2010 8:25 AM EST reply actions  

Doesn't "resodding" in this case...

mean putting more plastic pellets out there?

by Cranky50 on Dec 7, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha..Bomar would try to sneak in loads of green 'superballs'...sly devil he is!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Good competition breeds a better product...

…and whichever teams emerge from the NFC playoff chase should be poised to do some damage in the postseason. You gotta play the best in order to be the best.

So much stepping up right now, and everyone has bought into this thing. I like the attitude, and I like our chances.

by Step up and make big plays on Dec 7, 2010 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

Has

one half time speech by a SINGLE player turned our season around?

It does seem that way as we are getting inspired play from the DL.

JPP is proving to be the fresh pair of legs that Tuck and Osi need to see them through the rest of the season.

I subscribe to the theory that AB got the ball in the second half to prove to TC that AB could keep hold of the ball when the Redskins would be keying on him.

Amazing really – four weeks ago the sky’s the limit, two weeks ago the sky’s falling and now we are back to almost the sky’s the limit!

by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2010 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

Caution...Caution

This is what we have to learn from. Don’t get too full of ourselves from a couple of victories from sub-par opponents. Concentrate on the next game. At this point, the W’s are what matter, not power rankings, not O or D standings in the league and certainly not individual stats. Get into the dance and the rest will take care of itself.

Beat the Vikes!!!!!

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Dec 7, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

You got it..It's Vikings only week..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I want to beat the Beagles as well

but will not think about it this week….no vick, no vick, no…….zzzzzzz.

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Dec 7, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha!!..We all are dying for that day to come..

But first are guys have to succeed in making that game worth the title..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

with one game at a time.

My point is rather that we are playing well enough to win games – in the last 6 quarters we have outscored the opp something like 49-10.

If we can keep the level of play up we have a chance in every game that remains in this season

by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

so here's my shitty question

This “patchwork” O-Line has played lights out… record no-sack streak, running well right and left…

Does getting Diehl back in help or hurt? What about our Chief, O’Hara?

I think the O-Line as it is is making a case for itself.

I think obviously if O’Hara is good, he goes back in. He’s a team leader and an excellent C. Then, Seubert has played so well he’s got to keep a spot, back at LG.

Basically, if O’Hara comes back I think it’s dominoes bringing us back to our original OL with Diehl-Seubert-O’Hara.

If only Diehl is back, I still think he’ll supplant Beatty or Boothe. Probably Boothe?

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by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2010 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

still can't run left

Boothe is not exactly a bulldozer, and Beatty is still too raw to throw people around, he’s too concerned with keeping Eli upright which he should be.

getting Deihl back could start to move some people on that side of the line and open up some running lanes

by Flynner on Dec 7, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

but they ARE running left...

with considerable success.

I guess what I’m saying is that these guys are playing so well, is it still automatic that OHara and Diehl have spots? Ultimately I think so b/c Coughlin is old school / “you can’t lose your job to injury”

Will that improve us? Probably initially a step back b/c of rust but in a few weeks it’ll be overall better…. for the PLAYOFFS

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by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Phil

Diehl and O’Hara are starters, have been thru the wars…Boothe has only been thru a lot
of buffet lines, and Beatty still plays like a pup. If they are healthy, they start.

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Dec 7, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

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by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

We do have to keep in mind

that they found great success running left or right against the 32nd ranked defense (28th ranked against the run) in the league. That’s not exactly tough sledding for those guys. The redskins defensive line is horrid, and I really don’t think we can get a good judgement of how well the patchwork OL did based on that opponent. The Jags the week before were also very depleted at DL starting a 3rd round rook at DE. The Vikings are the 4th ranked defense against the run. That should be a much better test of this OL.

by bigblue777 on Dec 7, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Bingo

I don’t know about anybody else, not comfortable with Beatty starting in a loud dome stadium against J. Allen. He might not be having his best season, but the guy has a motor that doesn’t stop. I smell a couple false starts, at the least. With that said, if Diehl
is NOT ready to go, don’t push it.

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Dec 7, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

We need to make the PLAYOFFS

Before we start thinking or planning on it.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Dec 7, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

They are running left better now than they were early on...re: BJ's scamper 29 yards for a TD

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Remember

Diehl wasn’t moving anybody when he was healthy. We couldn’t run left and he gave up too much pressure to Eli’s blindside. Its not a coincidence that since he’s been hurt we haven’t given up a sack.

by nicksdafuture on Dec 7, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup

with Ohara still out, Diehl should take the LG spot from the PhoneBoothe & I think Beatty holds the LT spot until Andrews comes back (does anyone know his status?).

by GiantLion on Dec 7, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

They do run to the left

and they do it quite well.

"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss

by GhostDini on Dec 7, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

probably beatty

because the rook has had a lot of silly penalties against him, holdings and false starts while boothe has been fairly beastly.

as much as i like to make fun of him for being a giant fat ass, bow legged, and generally clumsy and doofy looking….the big guy drives blocks and he’s always downfield pushing someone out of the way on runs.

by cntrlalt on Dec 7, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Beatty looked pretty good his first week. I thought he took a step backwards last week, and
is not quite ready for primetime.

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Dec 7, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

also

amazing how shawn andrews has disappeared huh?

by cntrlalt on Dec 7, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

If his

back holds up he can be a future RT

by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

not for his current price

he’s too risky to allow that contract to kick in. i would restructure it so that we could account for his back issues if we hold onto him.

by jhMLB on Dec 7, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd hope he supplants Boothe

but from all indications he’d take over for Beatty. Which is a shame imo.

Just keep coming and we'll find a way to win, because the opportunity is there.
The opportunity is there.
Coach Coughlin

by Willgfass on Dec 7, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Giants

had a record like the Cowboys, then you could leave Beatty at LT to better evaluate him for the future. Since that is not the case, now is not the time to see “what is potential might be”…

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Dec 7, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but...

I’d argue Beatty is better than Boothe.

Or at the least the upgrade from Boothe to Diehl is greater than the upgrade from Beatty to Diehl

Just keep coming and we'll find a way to win, because the opportunity is there.
The opportunity is there.
Coach Coughlin

by Willgfass on Dec 7, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

It''s funny how we have gone from biting our nails over a patch-work line..

To a dilemna now..where we have a bunch of very proven capable linemen..Who’d a figured?..Things haven’t gotten worse..suddenly they are getting better at the perfect time..We go from spare parts to inter-changable parts..amazing

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

When Diehl's out there they need an extra "TE"

like 350lbs Shawn Andrews in order to run the ball 3 yards to the left.

Diehl goes to LG. Doesn’t matter how much of a vet he is, he pretty much stanks at LT.

Boothe has covered well, but I’d rather have the vet Diehl at LG then him.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Dec 7, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

they can actually run left with Beatty cuz he can get out of his own way

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Dec 7, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

RIP

Dandy Don, he was colorful on MNF (for an ex-Cowpoke).

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Dec 7, 2010 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

Yep..Dandy Don..Sad..

Quite a player..and quite the character..Walked away from the game at 31..became a beloved broadcaster..then walked away from that to live in peace..Somehow, I don’t think the party’s over..probably just begun..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

“Just a pinch between your cheek and gum gives you full-flavored, long-lasting tobacco flavor, without lighting up.”

11/1/2010

by HughG16 on Dec 7, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Diehl starts

but may not take all the reps, depends on how he feels and does.

I know some think consistency is more impt but I am sure he lost something being out and injured and all reps may be too much.

My guess is Diehl at LT, Boothe LG but I’d like to see more reps for Beatty if the game gets lopsided. Of course, that means Giants up >21 points, 2nd half.

One flaw of TC is not giving enough reps to 2 and 3rd string. Why wasn’t Sage in there at the end of the Wash game? Put in Duke/Clayton/anyone else last few mins. We’re not going to give up enough points to matter, protect against injuries and give some experience.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Why is Tom Quinn still ST coach?

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 7, 2010 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

TC

is definitely old school, hell the Giants are down 10 points with 16 seconds left against Iggles, and Eli is out there throwing another INT. I thought that was absurd, take a knee, and then shake hands, go home.

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Dec 7, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

+100000000000000000000000000

AGREED!!!!!!!! It made no sense. I couldn’t understand why Eli was passing. It’s ironic when we’re up big with seconds remaining TC takes the knee. However, down 2 or more scores with seconds remaining he’s tossing the ball all over the yard.

"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells

by FrankB03 on Dec 7, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I know TC is known for not putting in subs..

But matbe in the case of the Skins game..He wanted Eli and the receivers to continue to get reps under game conditions..but as I write this, I know it is a stupid thought..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I am sure that

we both have had many stupid (and profane!) thoughts but actually, this might make sense.

Apologies if I gave you a compliment.

That said, what about other guys, like CBs, etc that might use more reps? Petrus?

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Why is Tom Quinn still ST coach?

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 7, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha..no apologies necessary..I take all the compliments I can get..lol!!

But yes your right..we have alot of other players that could benefit from game condition reps..Like I said earlier, our O-line..We went from “Oh no!!”..to “Hey, this is pretty darn nice”…in the span of three games..Now we’ll soon have more linemen than we know what to do with..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to jinx/hex that

But remember we said that about WRs and then had to scrape the left overs from the floor to get some. Again, we lucked out that Hagan was still available.

Take the overflow while you can with glee.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Why is Tom Quinn still ST coach?

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 7, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

True..in this game things can go 180 on ya in a heartbeat..

I sure don’t want to ‘Mike Farley’ us!! Where’s the holy water?!?!?

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I guarantee

If Diehl gets put back in, with an injury hammy, look for a huge thread with everyone crapping all over him the following day.

Why would anyone fool with a good thing? The line is playing well, and Beatty, though not stellar, had to play against Orakpo, who is not a slouch and has been eating other tackles.

If we have to face Freeney next week, you are telling me you would put Diehl back in there because he is a Vet? Not me. I have defended Diehl on here, but irreardless of Beattys struggles in camp, both he and this backup line are playing well enough that they deserve to keep playing. With Diehl in there, the Giants would NEVER run left. Now they are very balanced. The Giants have wanted Beatty to push Diehl out, now here is his chance.

by dubsrub on Dec 7, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

If I recall correctly

(and perhaps I don’t) Coughlin / coaching staff wanted to push out SEUBERT, for a Beatty-Diehl-OHara line. But Suebert played well enough to keep his job, and Beatty didn’t earn Diehl’s.

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

What The?

Man, where did my comment go? Blah.

I like the attitude of this team. I really believe we can win our next two games…do that and we put ourselves in charge of the division which is where you want to be in December. We can win the next four as well…this team doesn’t have the same identity, or lack thereof of our team from last year and I love that.

With all that we’ve faced we’re still fighting and in this. Got to love that as a fan.

Oh, and the fact that Jets fans are jumping off the roof after last night makes this a GREAT Tuesday morning. Wassup BBV!!!

by DaWriter on Dec 7, 2010 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

On the Jets

I am not a Jet hater like some on this site (your perogative) but I am glad they lost as I find Ryan a big fat blabber mouth. They won 3 games by luck and he was so full of himself his dirigible belly actually swelled as if prego.

Hey Rexx, howya doin’ with those challenges?

I doubt this will quiet him down, guy has no modesty in that behemoth body.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Why is Tom Quinn still ST coach?

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 7, 2010 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

Not A Jets Hater

But the Jets have little to no respect for other teams in the league. They had one good season and suddenly they run NY? I’m sorry, but no. When the Giants aren’t playing, I’ll check out a Jets game because they are a NY team…but…please…settle down little brother. That’s just peach fuzz on your lip…lol

by DaWriter on Dec 7, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha..Not ready to shave yet...

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not a Jets hater either..I like the players..

It’s Rex Ryan I can’t stand..The other dumbass thing was allow a slumping Folk to attempt a 53 yarder into the wind..The only good thing he admitted to is the fact that he is not in Beliciks league as a Coach..You got that right Rex..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Rex

hope your “supermodel wife” gave you a nice shoulder to cry on. By the way, not a Jets hater either, really don’t care what they do. I had to click to the MLB Network quickly in the second half

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Dec 7, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if is illegal to reply to my own post :)

But I loved that Woodhead, who should have been kept by the Jets, flamed their royal butt hairs. Sometimes justice reigns.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Why is Tom Quinn still ST coach?

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 7, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha..I do all the time..I even reply to myself on a regular basis..

But yea Woodhead smoked his ex-team..there should have been a news headline that read: ‘Woodhead Cut by Bonehead Burns Ex-Team in a 45-3 Thriller’..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

In the game between the "Tops" in the AFC

The Jets proved to be eager bottoms.

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2010 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Schedule

When was the last time Green Bay or Minnesota played a regular season game in the Meadowlands? (I’m too lazy to look it up). Seems like we play Minnesota every year & it’s always up there.

Nothing Is Fool proof if you have the right fools.

by GiantsCauseway on Dec 7, 2010 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

Both in 2007

Lost both including the Eli 4-Pick (3 pick 6’s) game against the Vikings

"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck

by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 7, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I was at the GB game in 07

What an awful weekend (I was at Shea the day before for one of the games against the Phillies).

I remember leaving Giants Stadium just thinking what an awful, awful season it was going to be. My friends and I were lamenting that they’d be lucky to win 4 games.

That’s what made the Super Bowl victory later on that much sweeter.

BTW, that Vikings loss was the only unavenged loss of that season – beat the Cowboys, Packers, and Pats all in the playoffs.

by dcmetsfan on Dec 7, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

good point on the revenge games

but that loss to WAS week 15 pissed me off too, no revenge for that one, but they did win the first matchup in week 3 that turned around the season (loved the big 4th down stop)

"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck

by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 8, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Check this out from Gang Green Nation:

People can ignore history, but this is what this team does…They show something and then stab you right in the back. I personally guarantee that the Bengals win was the last win you will see from this team.

The other teams now really know how to defend Sanchez and I predict he won’t even finish the season as the starting QB. Somewhere along this collapse they win replace him with Brunnell, probably against the Steelers after he will have thrown four INT.

by Jetsexpert on Dec 7, 2010 5:17 AM PST

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2010 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

I can feel his pain....haha!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Talk about back stabbing

Even those of us who comment about Eli needing some improvement (let’s not start fighting now) would never say something strong as this.

Man, turncoat is not the word for him.

And for the record, I don’t agree with what was said. Nor do I care too much.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Why is Tom Quinn still ST coach?

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 7, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah

9-3: Can the franchise QB, we are never going to win another game!

BTW, the confidence poll % on Rex Ryan dropped 40 points. Fire Ryan!

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Dec 7, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

it’s even funnier because I read the name as jet-sex-pert

Just keep coming and we'll find a way to win, because the opportunity is there.
The opportunity is there.
Coach Coughlin

by Willgfass on Dec 7, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

HA!!

they got bent over by the Pats last night.

I'm gonna buy a HDTV with 3D technology so I can intercept an Eli Manning pass before the season is over.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

This just in!

Steelers QB goes to Jets, changes his name to Ben Dover.

OK, I am on official time out from posting next 5 mins. I am losing it.

All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
Why is Tom Quinn still ST coach?

by UnknownJintsFan on Dec 7, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahaha!!

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

That one gets 2 thumbs up!!

I'm gonna buy a HDTV with 3D technology so I can intercept an Eli Manning pass before the season is over.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep they all have sore ankles and sore..........this morning..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I kind of feel bad for them...

A sore…

……..

must be extremely painful.

I'm gonna buy a HDTV with 3D technology so I can intercept an Eli Manning pass before the season is over.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

why do I get the feeling of deja vu?

wait I know… just replace Sanchez with Eli, Brunnell with Sage, Steelers with Eagles, Bengals with Seahawks… Pretty sure I read this serveral times here 2 weeks.

"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck

by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 7, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

All we need to do is beat Minnesota.

That’s all we gotta do this week.

Beat the Vikings.

by tito (eight and oh) on Dec 7, 2010 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

Gonna be tough sledding

in Minnesota. They have always been stout against the run and even with thier internal quarrels I still believe they have a nice defensive front.

That patchwork line will have it’s work cut out for them this week, keeping Allen and co. off of Eli will be a whole hell of lot tougher than stopping Orakpo and keeping an eye on Haynesworth to make sure he doesn’t stomp on players that went out of bounds.

Not too mention if thier offense comes to play they have weapons all over the place, 2 nice WR’s a nice TE with a nose for the goalline, and an all world running back.

This game has me concerned… to say the least

by Flynner on Dec 7, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

and...
a nice TE with a nose for the goalline

…a “jumbo package.”

by Step up and make big plays on Dec 7, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

"tight End" + "Jumbo package"

= bad combination

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Dec 8, 2010 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually think

it equals Kevin Boothe

Just keep coming and we'll find a way to win, because the opportunity is there.
The opportunity is there.
Coach Coughlin

by Willgfass on Dec 8, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough sledding?..We're playing indoors...

We can leave the tobaggons home for this trip..lol

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Just asking?

When is the last time the Giants won in a domed stadium, seems like it’s been awhile?

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Dec 7, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

hmmm....Super Bowl?

I'm gonna buy a HDTV with 3D technology so I can intercept an Eli Manning pass before the season is over.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Texans aren't domed?

Cowboys is mostly dome…

Beat the Vikings.

by tito (eight and oh) on Dec 7, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Cowboys stadium can open partially..they leave it open when the weather permits..

They need to protect that 40 yard long TV set..It was open when we were there, but the noise was deafening until we shut them up..Its really not a noise thing..but I wish the Vikings were visiting for weather reasons..Would effect Favre (he suffers from other elements) but it would effect alot of their other players..A dome really doesn’t matter all that much..If we shut them up and go about business..We just don’t want our team thinking they are on a nice, warm vacation Sunday..TC should have them run outside in the deep snow carrying logs like Rocky IV..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right...

I completely blanked on that one

I'm gonna buy a HDTV with 3D technology so I can intercept an Eli Manning pass before the season is over.

by nywins42 on Dec 7, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Off topic..For all my fellow Yankee fans..

Are ya’ll as miffed as I am about Steinbrenner being passed over for the HOF?..Outragious!! Even Faye Vincent and Donald Fehr are shocked and disappointed..They passed on Miller also..unbelievable…

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

You're right Bobbi

 You can’t have a serious discussion about the past 40 years of baseball without those two icons of the game coming up. it doesn’t matter if you loved them or hated them. The point is they changed MLB, and thus deserve a spot in the Hall.
 I wandered over to Ed’s Yankee blog yesterday. Some of those guys posting over there are brutal. Pissing and moaning about the other guy’s opinions back and forth like third graders. I’m surprised Ed puts up with it. Hopefully it was just a bad day and not representative of what goes on normally.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Dec 7, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I should have said guys and gals

One was a lady, if you can call her that the way she was going on.

Go Giants!

by ronjohnson on Dec 7, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep a real shame..

I’ve never been to Ed’s Yankee blog..but if that is how they act..He probably uses it as fuel to keep us under control over here..lol..“I refuse to allow two blogs to get out of control!!” Besides if he ever spotted Bobbiblue over there he’d most likely seek counseling from Drill Sargent Guy..lol

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha!!..The original needle freak..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

not so shocked

I mean the guy was suspended from the game…twice. I think highly of the guy, but i think that is mostly because I’m a Yankees fan. If I were not, I think my opinion of George would not be so rosy.

by Flynner on Dec 7, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Eli has to step up

this week. Vikings secondary can be passed on, and with them loading the box to stop our two headed run game, this game has the feel that Eli is going to have to throw the ball to win the game. Also, regardless of whether Favre or Jackson plays at QB, they have to slow down Peterson if they hope to win. I don’t think this game is as easy as it may look, we don’t match up all that great with the Vikes.

by ManningHam and Cheese on Dec 7, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Next 3 weeks Eli needs to be Eli'te Manning

If the Eagles lose to the Cowboys and we beat them next week and the Vikings this week… we will win the division no matter what happens.

by jdaking123 on Dec 7, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

TRUE

Sheagles – @ Dal(L), @ NYG (L), vs MIN (W), vsAL (W)
Giants – @ MIn(W), vs PHI (W), @ GB (L), @ WAS

We’d both be at 10-6, we’d have the split against each other, tied in the division @ 3-3, but we would have the better conference record @ 8-4 vs their 7-5.

THAT HAS TO BE THE GOAL. (obviously) win the next 2 weeks and hope the Sheagles lose @ DAL this Sunday night

by GiantLion on Dec 7, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That being said,

imo, the Giants are the better team, and if they play a full 60 minutes and don’t turn the ball over, they SHOULD win, but it’s going to be a battle.

by ManningHam and Cheese on Dec 7, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure

how much stock I’d put in this, but according to ESPN, Hakeem Nicks is expected to start running tomorrow, and there’s a “good chance” he could play Sunday vs the Vikings. Any word on the accuracy of this report?

by ManningHam and Cheese on Dec 7, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

ESPN?..He's probably out then..

"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."

by Bobbiblue on Dec 7, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

What we need

4 wins gets us the 2 seed at worst.

3 wins gets us in. We win the division if we beat the Eagles (even if PHI wins out) so long as we don’t lose to Washington. We probably get a WC if we lose to PHI but beat GB because we’ll have tiebreaks over GB and CHI.

2 wins (lose to PHI GB) we need the Bears to go 1-3 and the Bucs to not win out just to get the 6 seed.

by roguetrader on Dec 7, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

Bucs

aren’t in right now. We are currently in the 6th seed, with Green Bay and Tampa on the outside looking in. Assuming we beat the Vikings, if we lose to Philly, we’d have to beat Green Bay and Washington to get the tie breaker over Green Bay for the 6th seed. Unless Green Bay or the Giants start losing, Tampa isn’t making it. We can also lose one more game and if we beat Philly, take the divison and either the 2nd or 3rd seed, depending on what Chicago does. Right now Giants have a strong shot at making it, they just have to take care of business.

by ManningHam and Cheese on Dec 7, 2010 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

Yea

that’s what I figured bobbi, I wasn’t putting much stock in it either, just being overly optimistic that he’d play.

by ManningHam and Cheese on Dec 7, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

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