We Have the Talent, Now Let's Finish
by Mike Farley on Dec 23, 2010 11:01 AM EST
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Oftentimes as fans of the New York Giants, we talk about how our team won but played well enough to lose. Many of the wins this year were examples of that--Carolina, Detroit, the first Dallas game, Jacksonville. Even in that Bears' game in which we knocked Jay Cutler silly, there were questions about our offense. Well, Sunday's loss was the complete opposite. As much as it hurts (and believe me, I know we all still feel awful about that game and have visions of Michael Vick and DeSean Jackson haunting us), there is something that has been nagging at me all week. It's the fact that the Giants dominated the Eagles for 52 minutes. I just can't shake that. They shut down the high-flying Eagles, holding them to 10 points, and really holding them to three points until Mario Manningham's odd fumble that let them back in to the game.
Sure, the Eagles gift-wrapped several of our scores too, and/or gave us great field position, but the first half of that game was one of the best halves the Giants have played all season, and maybe in a long time. We pressured Michael Vick to the point that he had nowhere to run and his receivers did not have time to get down the field. We effectively stopped LeSean McCoy (10 carries, 64 yards). Offensively, we struggled to run the ball, and lost yardage on more plays than we care to remember. But in that first half, Eli Manning converted on third and 6 or longer SIX times. One was on 3rd and 11 and one was on 3rd and 12. That, along with those Eagles' miscues, allowed us to build that 24-3 halftime lead and eventually 31-10 in the fourth quarter.
I won't even get into what happened after that. Look, we know the Giants didn't finish. They know it, the coaches know it, the whole NFL world knows it. To Tom Coughlin's credit, though, he didn't go all Denny Green on the media, and he took the blame on his own shoulders like a man. But let's give the guy some credit for what the Giants did do. For 52 minutes (okay, maybe not 52, but for at least 30), they were as well-prepared as a team can be, and executed their game plan to perfection. That's because they have the talent to execute that gameplan--on both sides of the ball. There are some things you might say are better about teams like the Patriots, who have a Hall of Fame QB but still get by with less; or the Eagles, because for as dumb as Andy Reid appears at times (red flag blunder), he finds ways to beat the Giants, often in the fourth quarter.
But here's the thing -- we can beat those two teams. It's hard to say we can beat the Eagles after the last six meetings, but we DID have them beat until their MVP QB led them back like few other players could have. The Packers exposed the Patriots a bit on Sunday night, and even the Browns beat them a month ago. Go ahead, pick another team and try to tell me why we can't beat them. The Giants are oozing talent and know how to prepare for a game. The only thing that has beaten them before and can beat them again is the Giants.
So if last Sunday's game taught them something, I hope it's that they should never accept 85 percent effort, or 100 percent effort for 85 percent of the time. If you want to win, you have to finish. Our 2007 team learned that, and several players from that team are still on this one. Maybe that's part of the reason Manning stepped up and tried to fire up his teammates on Monday morning. One lingering positive memory I have of Sunday, in fact, was of Manning pumping his fist and screaming , "Yeahhhhhh" after his fourth TD pass of the game, to Kevin Boss. When was the last time the dude showed emotion like that?
Sunday's game is the biggest game in Giants' history since last Sunday's game. The Packers are mad talented, but injuries and not finishing have also led them to a less-than-desirable 8-6 record (and a win Sunday guarantees them nothing). But the Giants are mad talented too, and it's time we showed another team how to finish. It's time to win a game when we really, really have to win a game, and get to the postseason for the first time in two years. Let's do this, boys.
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I am as angered
by the Giants game on Sunday as the manner in which they approached the second half.
I have always been a proponent of ‘if it ain’t broke’
What the hell was Fewell doing?!!!!
Going to coverage defense right out of the gate?
I might be able to see if the Eagles scored on a couple of quick hitters to open the half because we got beat in man coverage….but to give them the chance to develop some of the timing that was so vastly gone in the first half was stupid.
This isn’t hind sight either.
As soon as we started that coverage crap, I instantly thought this could be bad.
I was rewarded with a touchdown to put the game out of reach….or so we thought.
Still I look back at that and scratch my head and wonder……
What the hell was he thinking?
Run up the damn score…the Eagles did it to Washington…..it means nothing in the NFL.
They could not stop our offense and the defense was completely beating the crap out of Vick. If he took too many more hits AND they did not get that fumble, I think you would have seen Kolb.
Perry Fewell did keep his foot on the gas, but
The truth of the matter is:
1. Vick learned how to beat the presssure, he ran when he had to, passed when he could
2. The pass rush up the middle got soft and Vick took advantage of it.
3. When Vick broke contain, tackling got poor on our side at the worst time.
4. Lack of lane discipline at crucial times (same problem at about the same time in our last game
IMHO, considering which team had the more difficult task, the onus to finish was on the offense. If they had just run the ball on that last 3rd down, we might have drained enought time to at least take it to overtime. Let’s remember, the defense had to deal with Vick, McCoy, Jackson, Celek and Avant. The offense had Foku (or whatever his name was that SUBBED for Bradley).
by nard100 on Dec 23, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You forgot one thing
Ill-advised blitzes.
It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.
by MookieTheCat on Dec 23, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Prevent defense caused the loss
Coughlin said later that he called the prevent early in the 4th Q.. That is what happened. I HATE them going to a prevent defense!!!! They got lucky the other times it was called, the other teams did not have what it takes to score, BUT obviously, Vick did. Coughlin should have put back the original defensive scheme right after that lumbering TD by the slowest man in the NFL for the Eagles and just shut them down again. But NO, he had to maintain the prevent D. Bad Bad Bad coaching. Fewell should have argued Coughlin out of it. He is as much to blame. This is the 4th game that the coaches have lost for us this year. ### 4 ! games ! lost ! due ! to ! bad ! coaching !, not preparing for the offense or defense we will face, calling the wrong scheme and not adjusting. BAD BAD BAD coaching. ### I am still steamed
by smaugtheterrible on Dec 23, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
it could be a blessing in disguise
2007 saved Coughlin from an axe that should have been put to his neck a long time ago. We’ll see what happens.
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by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
i agree
We have the pcs to win most games dare I say even dominate ! But as long as I’ve been a fan (79) our good teams always seemed to have a few games that were similar to the off games we’ve had this year…this team can be special..or not its all there to be had…or not !
hey you ELI basher ....lets see you do better !!
by Mr.Williams on Dec 23, 2010 11:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions
+1000
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Every second counts..the game isn't over until the clock reads zeros..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
First
and I hate to rehash Sunday but we didn’t dominate on Sunday.
The fumble was questionable and Andy Reid didn’t overturn a call he would have received.
But we were dominate and the early points they got is what killed us. That team can put up 21pts on anyone in that amount of time so that didn’t surprise me – it’s the 10 pts they got off the Ham (crazy fumble) and INT for the PAT.
I just want to see us come out like madmen and put the cheese heads in the dust. I’m so tired of hearing about that offense and defense.
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
Being talented isn't enough
This team needs mental toughness the likes it never had to have before.
No matter how fired up they come out and how well they play, at some point Green Bay is going to smack them in the mouth. It might be a self-induced Manning gaffe or just a good play by Rogers or gasp a special teams blunder.
At that point, the team will either flash back to last week or not. The way they handle that is what will decide this year’s fate.
This is giving them credit for going in fired up. If they don’t do that, haunted by last week even at the opening kickoff, then fuggedaboutit.
by NYCNative on Dec 23, 2010 11:34 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I expect them to come out fired up
I mean, the playoffs are on the line and they know that.
At any rate, I agree 100% … how they handle adversity after last weekend will depend on how this team moves on. They only have to complete one last run at this point and we know they can do it if they give 100% from here on out.
And I expect them to end fired up..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
This is tough game.
The Giants better come prepared and ready to play or their gonna be in a world of trouble. I am scared and excited cant wait for Sunday.All i want for Christmas is a Giants win.
This game is going one of two ways...
They are either gonna show up foaming at the mouth and BLOW OUT green bay (the way WE KNOW they can) or they are gonna lay an egg with mistakes all over the place because they let last week in their heads…… We all know what they’re capable of. I just hope ole Coughlin has a Knute Rockney speech in his pocket he has been holding onto for this kind of situation…. GO BIG BLUE!!
by BigBluefaninTexas on Dec 23, 2010 12:06 PM EST reply actions
Wow a win or a loss? You must be psychic
Spurs #1 in the NBA!!!! --- Eagles #1 NFC East Baby!!!
by SpursEaglesFanSanAntonio on Dec 23, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Why is he still here?
It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.
by MookieTheCat on Dec 23, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Only we get banned from our own site..So temper it..I guess we're just suppposed to
take it and not respond..to the attacks..I have been warned, banned..but I’ll jump on the bastards..When some piece of shit comes in here and talks trash to anybody..If you go over to other sites ‘Fuck this and Fuck that’ is common..not here…We got a guy who lives in Canada for a security guard..He told me that responding to the ‘trolls’ …Was “A blatant disregard for our rules”..I have my own ‘rules for engagement’..kept me alive..I offered to assist in weeding these pricks out..I’m semi-retired and can spend more time than others..I’d do it in a nice way..but I doubt that will happen. There probably afraid I don’t have a professional side..Oh well..Let them think that..But one damn thing nobody will ever change is me..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
by Bobbiblue on Dec 23, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry for the mis-spells and pardon my French..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Oh that missed my question a bit
It wasn’t “why hasn’t he been banned?” (I think bans should be strongly disfavored) but more “why are these people still coming here?” It’s just indicative of why everyone hates Philly fans: long after the game is over they are showing up and making annoyances of themselves. Of course guys like JimmyK are welcome as they do add to the conversation, but how long do you need to come to say essentially “Vick is teh awsummst?”
It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.
by MookieTheCat on Dec 24, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
My rules of engagement.
I am a Packers fan, but I am also a football fan, here to read, and give my opinion, as one football fan to others.
When I visit your site, I try to remember where I am, and just civilly and respectfully talk football, and mainly ask for the same reciprication that I give to respectful fans of other teams who visit our site.
And, if that means that I have to hold back when responding to someone who gives me sh!t just for being a Packers fan on their site, then that is just the way it has to be, because I am in somebody else’s house.
On the other side of the coin, when fans of other teams, and/or just plain trolls who are fans of no team in particular, visit our site just to talk sh!t, then they are fair game and deserve to get it back with a blast from both barrels.
Fortunately, Brandon does not like to ban people from APC (unlike Chris Gates over at Daily Norseman, who will ban you just for looking at him wrong, haha), and I have never heard of him banning one of us for coming down on the trolls.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
This sounds right
Fortunately for us you don’t have Philly fans in your division. And even Vikings fans use subject lines, which is a pretty big difference.
It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.
by MookieTheCat on Dec 26, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha
sums it up pretty well
ATTN BBV: The Giants will not make the playoffs this year. In light of this fact I will now be cheering for the Eagles for the remainder of this season. Please join me. It’s a much better scenario than jut waitning for next year. Go Vick!
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Oh dude
Just noticed your sig. My apologies. I thought of you in the bar when they lost that game.
It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.
by MookieTheCat on Dec 26, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
There are a thousand things I just drummed up that I'd like to tell you..
I’ll leave it as Get lost…You Bird-Brains are the least of our worries..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
thatll be their downfall
were moving on, theyre not, they cant keep living in the past, or its gonna bite them in the ass, on to green bay
"Can switching to Geico save you 15% or more on car insurance? Can our special teams cover a punt?"
More Optomism....
I really believe they are gonna show up in Green bay and win in a deciding manner. I also think this loss last week could really catapult them deep into the playoffs. We almost beat new England the last game in 07 and I think that put in their heads they can beat them and anybody else. This game last week was a blowout until they “let” them back in…. They play 4 quarters like they played the first three last week and NOBODY can beat them!
by BigBluefaninTexas on Dec 23, 2010 12:12 PM EST reply actions
They will play hard.....
One thing you cannot knock about this team this year is effort. Even in the TN game—dumbass penaties, fumbles, etc—they played hard all the way through. They will come out hitting.
The game will depend on three things:
1. Elite Eli or cover-your-eyes Eli?
2. Fewell: Can the guy just call a good game start to finish?
3 Can we just not turn the ball over?
Some light humor for last weeks loss
My wife things Eli lost us the game and really isn’ t a big fan of his because she thinks he doesn’t run enough when nobody is open ( yes she’s a moron) I for this reason and others think she was the bad luck fan last week and caused us the loss….She will NOT be watching the game this week. Therefor a win is pretty much in the bag. My apologies for last week….
by BigBluefaninTexas on Dec 23, 2010 12:18 PM EST reply actions
Apology accepted.....
if you think she is the reason we lost last week then do us all a favor. On Sunday give her the credit card and tell her to go shopping with her friends and don’t return until after the game. Thanks for taking one for the team
I tell my wife to leave the room
Please get Phil Simms in the Hall of Fame
I just point at the door and she knows
I'm gonna buy a HDTV with 3D technology so I can intercept an Eli Manning pass before the season is over.
You don't ask for much, do you? :)
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
This comment is hereby considered 'classified'...
She must never read this..Signed, The Department of BigBluefaninTexas Homeland Security..
This is a code ‘bed’ alert!!..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
he doesn’t run enough when nobody is open
I agree with your wife. Eli doesn’t run enough when no one is open.
yes she’s a moron
I disagree. She wasn’t criticizing Eli; just an aspect of his game. Was his lack of running the reason we lost the game? I don’t think so but I do think that it was a remote cause of the loss. I would like to see a little more scrambling from Eli.
The road to REDEMPTION begins now.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Dec 23, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Eli doesn't run
because he’s about as nimble as a cow in mud.
nothing good can come from increased scrambling from Eli. He’s about as adept at running as a New York senator is at passing the budget on time.
Fire Quinn Now!!!!!!!!!!!
One thing that won't be a factor
Weather. Sunny with a high near 27 in the forecast. Looks like a perfect day for a great game.
Good thing the game ain't in NY, huh?.
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
Still head scratching about the Offense in the 2nd half
Bradshaw? really? They know you’re running it and you don’t bring out the big man? I mean most of the runs Bradshaw had in the second half were minus yards. Least Jacobs got 1-2 yards. And on one run there he popped a first down out. (I think that was 2nd half)
I don’t get calling Jacobs the “starter” using him for a couple plays, then sitting him down for what seems like 3/4 of the game for bradshaw.
That is a head scratcher.
I was worried that this monster would rear its ugly head when the offense performed this way in the Jacksonville game. The Eagles have a dangerous offense and even when we were ahead 31-10, I still wasn’t comfortable. Our offense has to be able to put points on the board at will. These three and outs are killing us. They killed us in a lot of the games that we lost (including this past Sunday) and some of the games that we barely won.
Bradshaw was moving the ball on their final drive but the lack of creativity in play-calling was one of the real downfalls. No screens; no bootlegs; predictable play-action; what do you expect. Play-calling is too predictable and this has been a complaint for weeks now.
The road to REDEMPTION begins now.
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by LoNJDTechnology on Dec 23, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Kevin Gilbride should not have a job. This is one problem that if we lose on Sunday, will be corrected when he and the rest of Coughlin’s staff are booted out the door.
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by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/23/week-16-picks/#more-99127
read this article about the packers vs giants. these people are really stupid saying packers will win. the worst thing is that they say aaron rodgers is the better qb.
not surprised
Florio and the rest of the staff at PFT love to take shots at the giants and the “over-ratedness” of Eli.
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Dec 23, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Stupid?
Ahem, you might want to take those blinders off.
Listen, I think the Gmen can win this game. But, saying a good team, playing at home with the playoffs on the line, will win by 3 is hardly “stupid.” That’s essentially saying it’s a “pick ’em” game on a neutral field, which sounds about right.
It is also not “stupid” to say Aaron Rodgers is a better QB. Certainly, in statistical terms, he was better in 2008, in 2009 and this year as well. We can debate the matter because of Eli’s intangibles and leadership. But, Rodgers puts up numbers and wins.
by NorthwestFan on Dec 23, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
The Packers have lost two in a row on the road, have their starting QB back. For the record I also think Rodgers is a better QB than Eli. Stronger and more accurate arm, much more mobile, let mistake prone. Sorry Tito. I also don’t care that he hasn’t won a Super Bowl YET,
he’s just a better all around QB. Top five in my book.
I don't coach 'em up well.
My Special Teams don't block, don't tackle, are somewhat
oblivious to an onside kick. My punter is a knucklehead.
Who am I? No No, not an American Express commercial.
I'm Tom Quinn, soon to be ex- Special Teams Coach of the NY Giants.
by Great Gatsby on Dec 23, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
*less mistake
I don't coach 'em up well.
My Special Teams don't block, don't tackle, are somewhat
oblivious to an onside kick. My punter is a knucklehead.
Who am I? No No, not an American Express commercial.
I'm Tom Quinn, soon to be ex- Special Teams Coach of the NY Giants.
by Great Gatsby on Dec 23, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry True
He does have a stronger arm, and better deep ball thrower too, we know that.
I don't coach 'em up well.
My Special Teams don't block, don't tackle, are somewhat
oblivious to an onside kick. My punter is a knucklehead.
Who am I? No No, not an American Express commercial.
I'm Tom Quinn, soon to be ex- Special Teams Coach of the NY Giants.
by Great Gatsby on Dec 24, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
Aaron Rodgers is a better qb than eli as painful as it is to say it.
but eli has one advantage over rodgers (and most qbs really) — he can win close games. (onslaught of packers fans awaits)
Rodgers also has a much better system
(that’s my opinion, in case that isn’t clear)
Huh?
He has an inferior offensive line and running game…
I don't coach 'em up well.
My Special Teams don't block, don't tackle, are somewhat
oblivious to an onside kick. My punter is a knucklehead.
Who am I? No No, not an American Express commercial.
I'm Tom Quinn, soon to be ex- Special Teams Coach of the NY Giants.
by Great Gatsby on Dec 24, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
system, not players.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Dec 24, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Debatable
I don't coach 'em up well.
My Special Teams don't block, don't tackle, are somewhat
oblivious to an onside kick. My punter is a knucklehead.
Who am I? No No, not an American Express commercial.
I'm Tom Quinn, soon to be ex- Special Teams Coach of the NY Giants.
by Great Gatsby on Dec 24, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Not true.
Rodgers has produced come-from-behind scores in the last half of the fourth quarter of games, many times, only to be overruled by the defense (or KO coverage units) allowing the opposing teams to come right back with quick scores.
Most recent example — the loss to the Falcons last month.
This has been a polarizing point among Packers fans. :)
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
Wait what?
The North Star needs a polarizing point? Aren’t you already polar? :P
It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.
by MookieTheCat on Dec 26, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Pack are good, sure G-Men could win but they could easialy lose.
The Giants really put themselves in a hole with this loss and the Dallas loss earlier in the year.
G-Men play hard but they’ll have a hangover, I just don’t see them winning. Nothing has gone right since that SB win a few years ago. I’m telling you we made a deal with the Devil for that historic win.
sorry man
I’ll cut down on my posts cause so I’m not a downer for the more positive fans.
I just don’t feel it with these guys.
I’ll be rooting hard on Sunday, I just don’t have a lot of faith after what I saw.
We are a seriously undisciplined team
with a half assed coaching staff. I’m not getting my hopes up either especially if we can’t get the ground game going.
Dodge is probably crying himself to sleep every night. I hope that he saved his money earned this season because if we lose on Sunday, he should be out of a job after January 2nd along with Coughlin.
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by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Do not cut down on your posts..You offer too good of a different perspective..
But you are a huge Giant fan..You don’t have to be rah-rah-sis-boombah..to prove it…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Eli doesn't take care of the ball
That is what will always keep him out of the top 5 list QBs, IMO. Top 10 for sure
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by MrDollarBills on Dec 23, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
There was really nothing earth shattering there
Lots of people think Rodgers are better than Eli, and I realllly don’t plan on getting into that debate anymore
ATTN BBV: The Giants will not make the playoffs this year. In light of this fact I will now be cheering for the Eagles for the remainder of this season. Please join me. It’s a much better scenario than jut waitning for next year. Go Vick!
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They say Rodgers is better than Eli.......
BECAUSE HE IS BETTER THAN ELI.
If you want to find out the problem with the Giants offense look no further than Eli. 2 of his 4 TD’s were what I like to call toss aways. It’s where a QB knows he is sacked and just throws the ball off his back foot in the are a WR should be. Most times these balls are over or under thrown and have too much air under them.
I would love to blow up Texas Stadium... With team still in it
by eaglelover1 on Dec 23, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
hilarious.
so those 2 TD throws don’t count cuz of the way he threw them. Excellent logic. Might you think down is up and your asshole is your elbow? Likely. Very likely.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
The wife (bad luck fan) will be on a plane to NJ
She will be in the air during game time. I will be at home
(or a bar ) watching Big Blue redeem themselves with a
huge win against the pack! GO GIANTS!!! of course I will be wearing my Lucky Giants shirt, eating wings from wing stop ( they haven’t lost when I ate those) and doing anything else possible to help Big Blue with some positive MOJO!
by BigBluefaninTexas on Dec 23, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions
Why
is she on a plane to NJ? Has the game been rescheduled there to avoid the frozen tundra? LOL!
I don't coach 'em up well.
My Special Teams don't block, don't tackle, are somewhat
oblivious to an onside kick. My punter is a knucklehead.
Who am I? No No, not an American Express commercial.
I'm Tom Quinn, soon to be ex- Special Teams Coach of the NY Giants.
by Great Gatsby on Dec 23, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately, my wife is a football fan..frigg'n Cowboy fan..
Day before yesterday we got into this ‘Seed’ debate..We were going back and forth on the mathematical jazz..Seed this..Seed that..blah blah blah..Finally I told her: “Hey you didn’t ever argue about seeds when I got you pregnant 5 times!!…I know what I’m talking about!!”
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
by Bobbiblue on Dec 23, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Are there any more available seats on that flight?
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
This reminds me of the 2000 SB
I had scheduled a vacation in Belize months before the SB and didn’t realize that I would be on the plane home during the game, or perhaps I was just so convinced that no team coached by Jim Fassel would make the big game that it didn’t matter at the time. In any event I switched planes in Houston for a flight back to Newark, which took off around kickoff. Notwithstanding that Newark is spitting distance from East Rutherford, the pilot and cabin crew didn’t think to put the game on during the flight. Needless to say I was very annoyed at the time, but later felt like I might have taken the quick route to the ground had I watched the game.
It's a triumph of number crunching over the human spirit...aaaaaand, it’s about time. -- Play-by-Play Announcer, The Simpsons.
by MookieTheCat on Dec 23, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Denny Green.......
They are who we thought they were and we let them off the hook..So true
I truly feel this game is 50/50, and can go either way
The thing that scares me is the Packers haven’t lost a game all year by more than 4 points. That’s pretty incredible when you think about it…
no, not true
Eagles was something that you could call equal and we dominated. If the Pack wins, it will be a fluke.
by PACKOWILDDOGS on Dec 23, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Let there be no doubt..this game will be brutal..We had the chance and they blew it...
in less than 8 minutes..The Packers know what they have to do..This game is ICU important..to going any further this year..Let’s hope our team knows..In case you haven’t noticed, there sr alot of coaches quitting in Sports..all Sports because players won’t listen they think they are beyond coaching..Like they don’t need coaching..I hope our team proves me wrong..I don’t buy that bull about modern day coaching..you have to wipe their noses when they screw up..This has to change.
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Jets vs. Bears
Who are we rooting for as Giants fans? I know it doesn’t have a ton of affect on us unless we make the playoffs, but if Chicago loses, Philly would have a good shot at getting a bye and homefield. If they win, Philly would likely be ours or Green Bay’s opponent first round. I selfishly want to see a Giants playoff game at Soldier Field b/c I’m moving to Chicago next week. :) But hey, I’ll take either option if Giants are in it!
Well..I hope they do that again Sunday..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Well..we need to root for "ihaveprettyfeet"..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
LOL
I don’t like Rex very much, but I do feel for the guy. Like they said, not like he did something morally wrong…he just liked him some feet! Feel bad for his wife too though. But they both have to realize anything posted on the web, even if removed, can be tracked down forever!
Yeah..I just think it is funny really..
Embarassing for them but hilarious..wide open for jokes and ridicule…but who cares..It ain’t like that guy (true story) who stole three pies laced with Viagra..It was an ingredient the chef felt would help stiffen the crust..Police said it may have been the work of a hardened criminal, but were confident they would catch him, because he would stick out like a sore thumb…
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
Thanks Mike
It’s great to read something that’s actually looking toward the future. Theres always a tendancy to refer to last week (as I have just done) just b/c of the debacle that it was. But we all need to forget that mess and start doinng what we all know can be done. Beat the Packers. And I love your optimism. I feel just as strongly about their talent level.
4 points or less
The Packers, as we noted, are 2-6 this season in games decided by four points or fewer. That performance has brought coach Mike McCarthy’s much-discussed five-year record in such regular-season situations to 5-15, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.
Eh
Not so sure if injuries are the reason for the packers not being 1st place in their division. They’ve lost some weapons and key defenders but we keep hearing about how they have the deepest offense in the league all offseason and now that injuries and adversity has come in, they can’t stand by their claims.
Also they’ve just a had an extremely tough schedule and they cant win close games. The injuries are starting to get very bad LATELY though, with matthews, jenkins, and collins hurting. But I don’t think injuries are really an excuse for them not winning the division. They’re still a talented football team in my view and if they’re so banged up and hurt, we might as well be a lock to win this game by that logic.
Half or our opening day starting defense is on IR.
in addition to the time missed by Collins, Jenkins and Matthews (who practiced in pads on Thursday for the first time since October.
And, on offense (don’t know where you’ve heard the claim that we have the deepest offense in the league), the loss of former Giant Ryan Grant was bigger than some want to admit, and has led to us being a little too one-dimesional.
Plus, the loss of Jermichael Finley has helped Greg Jennings’ numbers, but has been a big blow to the offense.
I’d say that, given the fact that we haven’t lost a game by more than four, we probably wouldn’t have six, or even five, losses, but for the injuries.
So, in conclusion, I’d say that they have made a difference.
BTW, I’m not trying to come across as whiner trying to use the injuries as an excuse — they are what they are, and we just have to suck it up and deal with it — just responding to the comment, and saying that I think they’ve made more of a difference than what you are saying they have.
FWIW, being at 8-6 now, with these key injuries, sure gives a Packers fan hope that next year (if they play), we can be what we were supposed to be this year. :)
TT bashers - turning my stomach since 2005!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'm waiting for Rex Ryans feet to show up on the internet..Now that would be a rip..
Takes two to tango…Show us the hidden tapes!!..We know you have them!!..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
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ATTN BBV: The Giants will not make the playoffs this year. In light of this fact I will now be cheering for the Eagles for the remainder of this season. Please join me. It’s a much better scenario than jut waitning for next year. Go Vick!
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Just like last week,
the score is currently 0-0 and we have the opportunity (like we haven’t had 5 already) to make a statement and grab a win.
And just like last week, our players will decide whether or not they have the will to grab a victory.
I just hope that our offense can gain more than two or three first downs in the second half. For Christ’s sake, give the defense a little rest, have a drive or two, and we’ll be OK.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
Attitude
Gees, so many negative comments. “Our quarterback sucks”. “Our coaching staff sucks” All this for a team that is in the driver’s seat for a playoff spot, AGAIN. What other team has been perfect this year? We put up 31 freakin points, and there’s complaints about the offense.
I don’t get it. I survived through the 70’s when the Giant’s couldn’t score if you started them off every series like they do today in College overtime. So Eli sucks? Ever hear of Danny Kannel? Kent ’I’m gonna through it out of bounds’ Graham? DAVE BROWN????
I don’t know what is going to happen Sunday, and I’m not trying to sound like I’ve got my eyes closed to faults, but for Superfan’s sake, we’ve got as much chance of winning each Sunday as ANY current team in the NFL.
mustangmach
Yeah, we scored 31. I am one of the “complaints” people, only because it’s TRUE. When your offense scores 24 of those 31 before halftime, then they come out in the 2nd half, score once, and don’t have any more meaningful drives, YES I have a problem with that. It’s called “leaving your defense out to dry.” The only thing we were doing offensively is taking time off the clock. My argument is that we could’ve taken a lot more. It’s like we went into “victory” mode. Predictable run plays every time.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
Our team doesn't suck..
Yeah alot of us have seen ‘suck’…They just need to do their job now..only two more shots…The thing that disappoints me the most is comparing what we endured way back then to what we have now..This team does not fit in the ‘suck’ category. That’s what frustrates me..
"When I was a boy and I had no sense..I got my pecker caught in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair, tickled my balls and made me shit in my overalls..."
9-5 is clearly underachieving for this football team
which many teams would kill for that but this giants team is a lot better than that, they should be in contention for a bye week. they’re just too mentally inconsistent whether they come out flat in games, halfes, last 8 minute of the games etc
oh well, i guess the giants will just have to make some noise on the road like 07
the giants are a good team...but
they do not have the eagles speed and heart. the giants were very fortunate to have that 21 point lead midway through the fourth. the eagles stayed focused, very focused. because they have heart. and then the breaks they were not getting started to come. throw in some insane foot speed. and that is how it happened.
the giants will never have the speed, but they can show the heart this week. it is going to be a playoff game. they have to win it. it won’t come easy. that means making plays at crunch time. no offsides or movement penalties. no special teams lapses. no eli yelling at his recievers after blitzes.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Dec 23, 2010 10:52 PM EST reply actions
I like Rodgers.....
mostly because I hate Favre :) That said, I think we need to hit him hard and early. I wish no serious injury to the guy, but I want him to worry about getting hit. Make him throw early, or throw away. I just feel like the D has to step up this game.
Special Team
We have only 2/3 of a team. No way we can beat good teams. look at the teams we beat
this year, only one are consider a good team.
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