There Are No Good Teams In the NFL.
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 3:57 PM EST
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"You are what your record says you are."
This is a famous quote from Bill Parcells. Most people know it well, and quote it often. However, I think Bill got cut off mid-sentence when he was giving this gem. The real quote probably should have read something like: "You are what your record says you are...unless you've lost to the Giants."
After a dominating 41-7 victory on the road, over a team that had yet to lose at home, I woke up today feeling like I was a fan of the best team in football, and that at the very least Giants fans would agree. Of course, this is not the case. Those who feel the Giants are not the best team will point to the "fact" that hey have not yet defeated a "quality opponent", and have lost to the only two "good" teams they have played. Is this argument valid? My opinion is no, and the reason can be found after The Jump.
How do you define a "quality opponent"? Is it a team that has beaten other "quality oppenents" themselves? Is it a team with an above .500 record? Or is it simply a team that has the ability on any given Sunday to beat your team?
The Giants best wins have come against the Bears at home, and against the Texans at Houston. Detractors would have you believe that these are not "quality teams". What I would like to know is if in fact these teams are not, than who on the Giants schedule is? The majority would answer this question with the Titans, Colts, and Eagles. All of whom, have a 5-3 record. 5-3. The same record as the Bears, and only one more win than the Texans. They would also probably throw in the 6-3 Packers, who have lost to the Bears, and would be in second place of there division if not for the Giants beating those Bears.
If you are what your record says you are, than how are the Bears any better or worse than the Colts, Titans, Eagles, all at 5-3, and a team they beat in the Packers at 6-3? The answer is pretty simple: They're not, because you are what your record says you are.
A detractor might ask 'Surely some of these 5-3 teams have quality wins though, that seperate them from the pack?'
Well, detractor, let's have a little conversation.
The 5-3 Titans have wins against OAK, NYG, DAL, JAX, and PHI. The best team being the Giants at 6-2, who (in your eyes) have no wins over quality opponents, and the Eagles at 5-3.
'So the Eagles are the quality opponent there right?'
Well, the 5-3 Eagles have wins over DET, JAX, SF, ATL, and IND.
'Surely, the Colts are a quality opponent...'
The 5-3 Colts have wins over DEN, KC, WAS, HOU, and the NYG. Again the best team there is the NYG, but since they haven't yet beat a quality opponent , their next best win is over Houston, who you have already said...is not a quality opponent at 4-4.
'Yea but the Eagles beat the Falcons...the Falcons are 6-2. Now that's a quality opponent.'
Actually, the Falcons have wins over ARI, NO, SF, CLE, CIN, and TB.
'Come on, the Saints are 6-3...they have to be a quality team.'
I mean...the Saints have beat MIN, SF, CAR twice, TB, and PIT so.... 'Pittsburgh is quality!'
Yea you would think so, but while Pittsburgh might be 6-2, much like the Giants, and Falcons their "quality" wins have come against Atlanta, and Tennesee...who both have no quality wins, as we've said above.
'And the 6-3 Packers?'
The Packers have been able to beat PHI, BUF, DET, MIN, DAL and the Jets.
'AHA! The Jets are 6-2!'
Yes. The Jets, like the Giants, Steelers, and Falcons are 6-2, but again where are there quality wins? The Jets were victorious against NE, MIA, BUF, MIN, DEN, and DET.
'So New England is the quality opponent?'
I'd like to be able to say that, detractor, but again a lack of quality victores will hold me back from saying so, as the Patriots have only won against CIN, BUF, MIA, BAL, SD, and MIN.
'Why isn't Baltimore a quality win?'
You would think at 6-2 the Ravens have had at least one quality win, but again, the Ravens only beat CLE, DEN, BUF, MIA, along with the Jets and Steelers...who, like the 6-2 Giants, Patriots, and Falcons, do not yet have a quality win.
After this conversation the detractor simply shook his head, and said:
"Damn. There are no good teams in the NFL."
You could say that detractor, or you could recognize 5-3, and maybe in some cases 4-4 teams for what they are.
Quality opponents.
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ouch my head
the whole NFL sucks i guess… good for us since the Giants are the leagues best garbage men (taking out the trash)
"Cowboys playoff wins since 1997: 1
Number of Cowboys crying after Giants games since 2007: 2"
- tito (eight and oh)
good stuff
but the Texans are 4-4
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 8, 2010 4:19 PM EST reply actions
That they are!
One too many quality opponents on that schedule.
Edited.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
no prob
it was a great read
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 8, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for pointing it out Armani.
Never want to have incorrect info up there.
Good luck against the Tuskers on Thursday.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
thanks
who needs the NFL Network’s Thursday Night games when VS. shows UFL football
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 8, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
That detractor is pissing me off
It really boils down to preseason predilections. If a person (talking head or casual fan) has a team ranked in their mind during the preseason, then even subconciously I believe that their view of a team’s opponents are determined by how they saw that team from the start. Yes many pundits are jumping on the Giants bandwagon now, but if they lose to Philly or God forbid Dallas, watch how fast the “I knew from the first preseason game this team was just going to let me down” termites come out of the woodwork.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 8, 2010 5:06 PM EST reply actions
I hate how right you are about this.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
It's that whole idea of
“I don’t care what their record is, if they lost to (insert team x here) they can’t be THAT good”. It’s a mindset that rules college football and drives me insane.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 8, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
We'd be Boise St.
The team that keeps beating everyone put in there way…but not enough quality opponents to be considered #1 lol
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
So you're saying they're gonna have to play the rest of the season to sort this thing out?
TROUBLE!!! WORRY!!
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
What's the point?
Everybody sucks.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
As long as Hakeem keeps it on safety...
I don’t care who’s what.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Who cares if the safety's on?
Just make sure it’s registered.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'll tell you this much tito...
When I want consistency, I know where to go. Another excellent Fan-Post bro…as always. That is why I rec’d it before I even read it. No doubt in my mind that any one who puts out good material on a consistent basis deserves consistent praise. Well done!
Now, many of our fellow BBVers are already aware of my concern about the Eagles and their ability to eliminate us from SB contention. However, after reading your argument, I must say this particular concern should go towards all teams in the NFL: and yes, I do mean all. A 5-3 and 4-4 team CAN be defined as a quality team and in light of this realization, the Giants can be viewed as a dominate team at 6-2 and a force to be reckoned with. A Giant team that is more than likely just as much cause for concern for the Eagles as they are for us, or me.
I really didn’t realize just how wide open the league actually is. Your Fan-Post effectively shows that any team can put a end to our SB contention and that every team has to navigate through the landscape of the NFL with much caution and preparation because it is still wide open and on any given Sunday the best team on that day will win.
You could save a bunch of money on child support by switching to condoms.
by LoNJDTechnology on Nov 8, 2010 6:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yes bro!
This is exactly what I’m trying to say, and you said it with the words that escaped me, and led me to the numbers.
any team can put a end to our SB contention and that every team has to navigate through the landscape of the NFL with much caution and preparation because it is still wide open and on any given Sunday the best team on that day will win.
How anyone can try and claim that any win in the NFL is easy, or not of “quality” is beyond me. Did we not just watch the Cleveland Browns completely dismantle the “best team in football” yesterday? That’s all it takes, two or three of those games in a row and the Patriots are watching the Jets run away with the East.
We didn’t just beat quality teams like the Bears, Texans, and I even consider the Seahawks a quality team at Qwest, we didn’t allow them a glimmer of hope. We won controlled those games from start to finish. Sometimes defensively, sometimes offensively, but it got done.
No one said it was going to be easy, no one said that it was going to happen, but if the Giants play up to their abilities consistently, much like they did yesterday, they are a force.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, Tito!!
"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)
Oh...one thing that should be the focus for the Giants right now...
Listen, we all see what is going on in Dallas right now. All I’ve been hearing is that they will focus on “the Giants” and “next week”…screw that. If Dallas is gonna try to man-up and salvage whatever pride they still have…it CAN NOT happen in NY. Hey, I’m all against bullying but if the RUNT of the east steps up this weekend the BOSS needs to punch them in the mouth and put them back in their place…with this message…“The rebuilding of the cowboys DOES NOT begin in NY on Sunday”
"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)
Well said. Phuck that and the Giants had better have this mind set as well even if they don't voice it openly.
You could save a bunch of money on child support by switching to condoms.
by LoNJDTechnology on Nov 8, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Trying to keep it clean and dirty at the same time.
You could save a bunch of money on child support by switching to condoms.
by LoNJDTechnology on Nov 9, 2010 7:11 AM EST up reply actions
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!
Everyone is talking Eagles this, Eagles that. Mike Vick this, Mike Vick that…we have one team in front of us, it ain’t Philly. Let’s beat the Cowboys, than worry about da birds.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
One game at a time fellas. Eye on the prize and all but every game is important and none are easy. If the Giants keep their heads down and just focus on beating the current opponent of the week then at the end of the day perhaps they’ll have a string of victories to show for it and a chance at a playoff spot.
Plus
One
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
And 2.
You could save a bunch of money on child support by switching to condoms.
by LoNJDTechnology on Nov 8, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Come back to me in February
I’ll tell you who the best team in the NFL is.
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
lol
You know damn well as soon as the Super Bowl is over, it’s Dallas again.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Nah man
It’s all about the
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Excuse me
Just threw up in my mouth a little
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Tito...this was a good read
i was on the train on my BB and as soon as I realized where you were going w/ this post I starting smiling and laughing (approvingly) … job well done.
you and Lo do deserve some Front Page love. In fact You and Lo should have a weekly segment….LOL. The Lo and Tito Show! Week 1 conversation:…… Is Eli Elite? hahahah…that would actually be pretty entertaining w/ you two.
Troy O can be a guest caller…just prepare the “bleep” button.
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
by andiamo708 on Nov 8, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
LOL!
That would be something man. We could pull up everyones comments from the site “Well if you take into consideration the statistics FrankB03 has provided in this comment, Eli has a much better Non-Conference record than Rivers…” lol
Seriously thanks a lot for the positive feedback though, it really feels good knowing people are actually enjoying the stuff I’m putting a little bit of time into, and I’m sure Lo feels the same way…between his POTW, and the “Looking Backwards, Going Forwards” FanPosts LordKat has done (I hope he continues them soon) we’ve had a very strong FanPost section this year.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 8, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
I think Tito needs a higher profile job at BBV
something like a weekly BBV exclusive interview with a some of the newer members of the team. I think that would be fun…you know…get to know some of the names that we only see during training camp or during 4th qtr blowout victories.
Wait…I could get used to a weekly BOMAR interview. I could get very used to that but It may be difficult to interview Bomar because it would be like trying to interview the sun from 5ft away with no Coppertone or shades.
"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
You and my other supporters (i.e. Always Well Dressed, Larry Soprano, Willgfass, etc.) really make it easy for me to be creative andiamo708. No doubt, I have had more fun producing them now that I know that many of my fellow BBvers really like them. Plus I enjoy doing them because they are helping me build up my knowledge about the Giants and the game. Like tito, I appreciate the love that you have throw my way bro on a regular basis. Gotta give Ed some love too for allowing me to be me (and borrow some of his ideas. :-))
You could save a bunch of money on child support by switching to condoms.
by LoNJDTechnology on Nov 9, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
if you and Tito
had some sort of weekly newsletter or Sirius radio show, I’ll subscribe
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 9, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Ha ha !
i second this ( The Lo and Tito Show! ) you guys are a great read.
im much better now. back on the Ritalin .
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
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Sick New Av.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
indeed...
I like his sig too on his profile page
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
lol...
Typical
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Good Post!
Thanks for the post.. Of course you are right that in a relatively small number of games you can create a circular argument for anyone being good…or not.
In my post today I was just trying to say that the teams we have yet to play have a better record half way through the season than those we have played so far – no more and no less.
Where I think we all agree is that this is the reason they play the games – and if we keep progressing we have every reason for optimism.
by Wide Right From The 47 on Nov 8, 2010 9:30 PM EST reply actions
Just got the money line from Vegas sports book for Week 10
Giants -14 against Dallas
Go Big Blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if i could rec. more then once i would.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Me too.
You could save a bunch of money on child support by switching to condoms.
by LoNJDTechnology on Nov 9, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
we all agree the Giants are good.
but man, you put the ammo right in your explanation:
The Titans have beaten the Giants and Philly.
The Eagles have beaten the Falcons and Colts.
Packers have beaten Eagles & Jets.
Ravens have beaten Jets & Steelers
Jets have beaten Pats
Pats have beaten Ravens
Saints have beaten Steelers
Giants have beaten … Houston? Chicago?
Point being this team will have more cred with me after beating a good team!
Notice too, most of those teams like the Giants have ONLY LOST to good teams. That’s a good sign & quality we share. Your basic premise, record = quality, puts us in the league’s top tier, and I agree with that. But remember 5-0 vs. the Chiefs, Raiders, etc? All I’m saying is big wins give better cred.
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That's my point though...
If the Giants haven’t beaten a “quality opponent” than how can you count them as a “quality victory” for the Titans? If we beat the Titans, they would be 4-4, would that be considered a quality win? I doubt it.
If the Colts best win is over the Giants, and the Texans, how can you say they have a quality win? If the Eagles best win is over those Colts (who have the same record as the Bears, and a loss to the Texans), who have no “quality wins”, how can you say that’s a quality team?
You can’t say the Giants have not played quality opponents, basically getting at the fact they are not a quality team, but in turn add them to the list of quality teams for the teams that have beaten us. That’s ridiculous. Either the Giant’s have beaten quality opponents, or there are no quality opponents on this schedule.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I can't believe how unable to connect on this we are.
1. The Giants are a good team.
2. Unlike most of the other good teams, the Giants have yet to beat a good team.
The point I’m trying to make is that our 1st-tier company has posted big-matchup wins, we have not.
You don’t think that poses credibility issues?
Let me ask you: If there was right now a 8-0 team that had wins over Buffalo, Denver, Dallas, Carolina, Detroit, Cincinnati, Arizona, and San Francisco, would you question their credibility?
What if they also then posted 20-point losses to the Chiefs and Bears?
Would you give them the same cred as a team that was 7-1 against the Pats, Jets, Steelers, Ravens, Giants, Falcons, Saints, Packers, and week 1 Colts?
Which team would you say is better? Which team has more credibility?
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Listen Simmys.
I understand you’re not doggin the Giants. I understand you know they are a good team, I just don’t understand how you can consider the Texans and Bears slouches, but the Titans, Colts, Eagles, Packers and Saints not.
The Saints are 5-3, just like the Bears, who beat the Packers.
The Colts who lost to the Texans, are 5-3, just like the Bears.
The Texans, if they beat the Giants, would be 5-3. At that point would you likely consider them a quality opponent?
The Titans, if they lost to the Giants, would be 4-4. At that point would likely not consider them a quality opponeny?
My guesses are yes, and yes. Because what it looks like it to me, and please correct me if I’m wrong, you only consider a team a “quality opponent” if they have beat the Giants.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
if if if
I think your’e carrying the quote too far.
Tell me you think Saints = Bears, and I’ll drop it.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
How is that too far?
It’s one game…
Had the Giants not imploded with stupid penalties, missed field goals, turnovers at the 5 yard line etc, and beaten the Titans…would you consider them a quality opponent at 4-4?
Answer that question and I’ll drop it.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
well,
I guess it’d depend on who they beat, and who they lost to. Fits right in with the rationale above. There’s something to strength of schedule when gauging a team’s performance.
Of all the 6-2 teams, the league’s top tier, the Giants have had the lowest “quality of victory.” Do you disagree with that?
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
the quote "you are what..."
I’m saying, our wins are against teams with an aggregate record of 17-31.
I’d feel better about the team — check that, I WILL feel better about the team — when they’ve beaten some quality competition.
I was so pissed last year at 5-0 to hear those bitchy Saints fans asking “Are the Giants for real?” But you know what? Sometimes, it’s a legit question.
I think they are, but there’s not a helluva lot of evidence to support it.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
See that's bullshit man.
And that’s the whole reason I wrote this post, because of last years “are we real?”
We beat the Bears when they were undefeated, if they beat us…they would be 6-2 sitting in the cream of the NFL crop with a win over the Packers, and the Giants. Everyone would be S-ing their D’s.
When we beat the Texans they were on top of the world WE knocked them down a peg, if they one, they would be 5-3, with a win over the Colts tied for first in their division.
We have beat quality opponents, no Saints fan or ESPN talking head is going to convince me otherwise.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
nor stats?
The one thing you haven’t pointed out which leans your way is that the Texans and Colts have gotten worse since our games, b/c of injuries… we did beat a better texans team and lose to a better colts.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Doesn't matter
They’re still quality opponents :)
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
i think you missed the part where
I was agreeing with you in that post
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
That's just the Giants
I’d like a comparison for the rest of the league, before that means anything to me.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Saints are 6-3 by the way.
I keep fuckin these records up.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
eh,
forget this. Let’s drink. We’ll see eye to eye when the Giants kick the shit out of the Eagles and Packers.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
You could save a bunch of money on child support by switching to condoms.
by LoNJDTechnology on Nov 9, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
true that
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 9, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Aright bro.
You know I got nothin but love for you Simmsy.
Just to answer your question though Saints > than the Bears…but the Bears = IND, TEN, PHI, and GB right now IMO.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
*slaps forehead*
okay, pick’em to beat Minny … I actually might.
Hey, you’re in CT, right? We should catch either the Dallas or Philly game at a bar if you’re within 30-45 minutes…
My range is Hartford – Worcester along the 84 corridor
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
actually i have family out there
But I’m in nj myself, what YOU need to do is come to a game with me and bleedblue12!
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
If Simms isn't up for it...
Count me in, I told you I’d love to make it up to the new stadium this year.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Nov 9, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Hell yea Larry!
What game would you be interested in?
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I know this is going to sound really sad
But I gotta check with the wife for which game. I’m thinking either the Skins or Eagles game though.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Nov 9, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Get your permission slip, and you know where to find me :)
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
No prob
I’ll shoot you an email.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Nov 9, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
how we talkin,
if I can finagle tickets, tailgate before & after, split up for the game?
Or buy a chunk together?
FREE FREEBRADSHAW!!!
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure bleedblue can find 3 together
We could meet at that Dragonfly bar beforehand. Shoot me an email if you’re interested we could definitely set this up.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Was wondering when you two were going to kiss and make up over this little dissagreement
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Nov 9, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 9, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
how about we
roll on you and Mr. Toomer with some wooden Louisville sluggers eh?
FUNNY.
I kid, I kid.
FREE FREEBRADSHAW!!!
by Simms-McConkey on Nov 9, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I breaka you thumbs... hahahaha
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Nov 9, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha
couple of red sox fans…. you’d just swing and miss.
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 9, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Nov 9, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i am going to add to the compliments
some of the posters here can run circles around some of the “journalists” on ESPN and NFL network. I still believe that half of the people on NFL network dont ACTUALLY watch games. They rely on the highlight reel and stat sheet, very sad to me. Great job tito.
Thanks Phillip.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Can’t disagree with any of that. I’m an Eagles fan and I ranked the Giants #1 in my Pointless Power Rankings.
I'm sure a lot of people would agree with you. Probably most Giants fans.
I, being a Giants fan, think we are the best team in the NFC today. Which of course is meaningless.
But, I also think the Ravens are the best team in the NFL today, with wins over the Jets, and Steelers. Which is also of course, meaningless.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Great Post
But, it’s just important to remember that we’re still dealing with a small sample size for the season so far… an educated fan can still watch teams and tell what teams are playing at a higher level. Last week, pretty much anyone would have agreed that the Giants were a better team than the Bucs, even though their records were the same, and their statement of being the “best team in the NFC” was a running joke. That being said, you have every right to believe that the Giants are the best team in the NFL and that their final record will reflect that. By the end of the season, the good teams (of which the Giants are certainly one, this Eagles fan must begrudgingly admit) will separate from the rest.
Even if each team is who their record says they are, there is still time for both the teams and their records to change.
PS- I’m not trying to be a detractor here…
I completely agree.
I know the Eagles are a good team, it doesn’t matter that they lost to the Redskins, and Titans the same way any objective fan should know the Giants are a good team, regardless of if they lost to the Colts, and Titans.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 9, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
From reading BGN
stuff today, it seems they are more focused on the Giants being higher in the power rankings then them. One would think facing the Skins and Rex Grossmen.. I mean McNabb next week is a much bigger deal then these make believe BCS rankings. One week at fellas
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 9, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm
i wonder what the “experts” would say about this post(excellent post by the way, felt like i should be paying to read it) I think this post would raise up a very good discussion with those “experts”.
Once again great post man
If you cant beat him, break him, if you CAN beat him than break him anyway
- The New York Giant Defense's motto when dealing with quarterbacks for the
2010-2011 Season
Thanks, great picture man!!!
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 10, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
In perspective, there really aren't, or sorta any good NFL teams!
It’s cliche’, but any given Sunday! One team, but one example: the Browns have knocked off the Saints and Patriots in consecutive weeks. How are fans to preceive such an improbable feat? We can only absorb the fact that this can happen through parity, but also know that you only play who is on your schedule too!
It comes full circle for the Giants though. Play who is on your schedule and let the chips fall. If it weren’t for turnovers, this Giants team could be undefeated! In their actual wins, they were definitive with dominance which speaks volumes!
On a smaller circular scale, how were the Giants pre-season predictions, power polls etc. stated given their schedule and division? I believe they have already matched or bettered some?!
Bottom line, don’t believe what you read, but trust what you see. This Giants team looks scary good!
Very well Said Hootman.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 10, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Good Job
Tito, you have done a great job in this article. This should go as a classic.
Let’s Go Giants
Being a New York Football Giants fan or a player is not a label but it is a calling!
No good teams
These giants should becom a great team not just a good team. They have added great defencive players . So yes they lsot some games in the beginning. It takes a while for them to get used to each other. But thats what great player do. they added . Deon Grant., Antrel Rolle, Kieth Bulluck, Jason Pierre-Paul(who can;t get on thr defencive line)and Linval Joseph All great players bbut new to this team and a marked improvement to what they had at the end of last year. last year A lot of injuries killed them. If only the coach would wise up and not use that prevent defence idea that does not help you win. When they played the boys last that gave the boys 15 points near the end of the game. The defence had bin preventing then from scoring all game befor that. Its hard to keep a team from getting points when you turn the ball over on your end of the field and they only have 20 yards to go. Now thay got it going they are playing as a team on defence and defence wins superbowls. just check the history every team that won had a great defence.
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