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Report: Shawn Andrews Hospitalized With Back Pain

Pro Football Talk reported Thursday that the New York Giants sent Shawn Andrews to the hospital because of recurring pain in his twice surgically repaired back.

Geez, pretty soon the Giants won't have anybody left who can stand up straight.

According to the Star-Ledger's Mike Garafolo, Andrews was limited in practice Wednesday, but then could not go when the team practiced Thanksgiving Day. PFT indicated the team then sent Andrews to a hospital.

Andrews did not practice at all last week due to back issues before playing the entire game Sunday against Philadelphia. Garafolo reported that Andrews received an epidural to ease the back pain rior to playing, but that Andrews said it is not something he will be able to do each week.

Andrews' back is not only an issue for the already-depleted Giants' offensive line this week, but it has to give them pause about committing to him as a long-term member of their starting group.

Andrews indicated prior to the Philadelphia game that perhaps his back is not physically up to the rigors of playing an entire game.

"I've had two back surgeries," Andrews said. "My reps from being in that tight end package that we have, it's gone from 18-20 plays a game to the very first game against the Seahawks, like 85 plays. That's a lot coming off an injury and not having played in two years."

If Andrews is unable to play, second-year man Will Beatty will start at left tackle.

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When it rains

it torrentially downpours. Im not really surprised with injuries anymore, just put in Beatty and hope for the best, than after he goes down some how put in Pascoe, then Bomar, then the hot dog vender, then the dog then…….

Despite his rough night, by the way, McKenzie's +17.1 for the season makes him PFF's highest-graded tackle in the league thus far. Which, the way things have been going for the Giants, means now he will get hurt."

by SeJo8 on Nov 26, 2010 8:29 AM EST reply actions  

Come on down Will Beatty

You are the next contestant, for LT of the week.

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Nov 26, 2010 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

I hope you meant to use a semicolon there...

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 26, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Turkey Day observations

1) During the Pats-Lions tilt, the referee when announcing a personal “fowl” during the extra
point. “it will be administered on the kickoff”, Hey Ref, you can administer an IV or a flu shot
but you can enforce a penalty, just saying.

2)During Cowpokes-Aints, Cowboys analyst, I mean Fox analyst Troy Aikman when discussing the Cowpokes penchant for shooting themselves in the foot.
“They do it at the most untimely times” Say again Troy?

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Nov 26, 2010 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

Hahahaha!!

We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!

by Bobbiblue on Nov 26, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha +1

i picked up on the aikman one too

Uh hello, planes? It's blimps. You win.

by RealLT on Nov 26, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Options

are limited and that includes playing Boothe at LT and Petrus at LG if Beatty and Andrews are u8nable to play.

Hopefully Diehl is back next week which will ease the pressure but not a lot you can do when your starters and backups are injured at the same time.

by G Fan in England on Nov 26, 2010 8:51 AM EST reply actions  

Beatty

is healthy, he is their option at LT.

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Nov 26, 2010 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Andrews

If I recall correctly, his 2011 contract calls for starters dollars.

If he is unable to play a whole game for a whole season…do the Giants keep him?

If he would re-work the contract and be a super sub – perhaps. But then the starters go down and you need Shawn to play a whole game for a few weeks and he cannot?

I admire his courage for coming back after two back surgeries. From a practical point of view – he may not be an OL solution for the Giants.

by MSP Giant on Nov 26, 2010 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

You may be right

other players have been jettisoned out of town, when they wouldn’t re-work contract, and If I am the Giants, that’s exactly what I do, re-work contract.

When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".

Bill Parcells

by Great Gatsby on Nov 26, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you're right ...

the Giants hold all the cards here. Current contract calls for starter $$ next year like MSP said, but if he gets cut for not re-working the deal, his next deal (if he gets one) will be no better.

What worries me is his comments about not being expected to hold up under a full games reps. Huh ?!? Sounds like he’s well on the way to talking himself out of town after this year.

by Shofner85 on Nov 26, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I think

it’s near certain that he is not a Giant next year. These back issues are far too big a risk to commit the kind of dollars his contract calls for no matter how much potential people saw while the guy played TE.

by bigblue777 on Nov 26, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks a lot, Ed....

Moments after I claim in my new fanpost that the O-line is playing pretty well you have to give me bad news?……Ha ha.

Seriously though it wouldn’t surprise me if Beatty is able to… well, you know the rest…

by giant fan since 57 on Nov 26, 2010 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

an epideral though??

Damn, no doubts in my mind of him not being determined to make this comeback. How many players would accept getting an epideral just to play weekin and week out. I hope he gets better…but back issues on 300+ lineman..pretty much spells career ending. But at least beatty is ready to step in.

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Nov 26, 2010 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

Thats some serous stuff

they gave that to my wife to push out our daughter. It pretty much paralizes your body. I have no idea how you even play with that.

by Landeta on Nov 26, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Went to the hospital huh...

I wonder if it was a boy or girl

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 26, 2010 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

Andrews took one for the team

but taking epidurals are dangerous because they could mask further injury to the back without any pain to give warning. Permanent injury could result. Andrews was correct to refuse more epidurals. If I were his doctor I would recommend that he retire for the season and determine next season whether his back can hold up to play in the NFL.

by derekcrane on Nov 26, 2010 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

Awesome!

Giants 836, Jaguars -5

Details of the operations of an interstate dog fighting ring were revealed, with some portions involving drugs and gambling. Gruesome details involving abuse, torture and execution of under-performing dogs ... He admitted to being involved in the destruction of 6–8 dogs, by hanging or drowning...

by Simms-McConkey on Nov 26, 2010 9:24 AM EST reply actions  

We should have expected this with Andrews from the start. I would say we got more than our moneys worth from him as it is. It may sound cruel but no big loss as I see it, if he’s gone. It was not that big of risk anyway, and he has performed well while he was healthy. Time for the next body to step up as the injury parade continues….and yes I am a little frustrated….ugh.

by weejer on Nov 26, 2010 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

Jimmy K is off somewhere right now

laughing maniacally.

Poor Andrews, it appears his back is just not meant to play football.

by brisulph on Nov 26, 2010 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

little to laugh at being as they payed him little.

still i get what your saying. laughing he is.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

by Troy O on Nov 26, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

at the end of the day, we're still the ones laughing...

3 Super Bowl titles. No championships in Philly since 1960. Indisputable facts.

by Step up and make big plays on Nov 26, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

First round draft choice is...

Offensive line!

Does anyone have a read if Beatty or Petrus have long-term potential to be effective starters?

by scarlet knight on Nov 26, 2010 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

Ah man this sucks...

But can’t Bhomar play LT ? ;) cheer up guys! Don’t be so sad guys be awesome instead and watch the giants kick som jaguar A**

by EJAAY on Nov 26, 2010 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

wtf?

“18-20 plays a game to the very first game against the Seahawks, like 85 plays.”

Is he complaining about playing to much?

by jdaking123 on Nov 26, 2010 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

yea man

back problems are no joke, just look at gallo and he’s not playing football!

by jhMLB on Nov 26, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Gallo's back problems are WAAAAAAAAAY behind him.

just look at him now.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 26, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I wish Andrews would overcome his back problems like Gallo

who BTW is 6"10..lot more stress on the back.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Nov 26, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

No

He’s just saying that it probably has contributed to the back issues. He’s not complaining.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 26, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I was close to swtiching to the "signing him was a bad decision" side but...not anymore...

His back was a concern when he was signed and some may want to fault the Giants for taking a risk on a player with some health issues that could possibly flare up. Now, those issues have arisen and seem to have confirmed that a bad decision was made regarding his health…BUT…the Giants were right when they signed this guy and he has been playing very well. When they signed Andrews they didn’t plan on him playing this much so soon. I think his recent back issues are the result of the weight of all the Giants Oline injuries being placed on his shoulders. They could not have foreseen the ever-growing list of injuries that are plaguing the offensive line so I can’t “blame” them for picking Andrews up…it was a great move that has been spoiled by by no fault of Andrews.

"18 and 1...write THAT down!!" -- AP at XLII

by nywins42 on Nov 26, 2010 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

if there is a silver lining in any of this

Its that maybe all of his extended playing time now saved us from getting ourselves into a bad long term contract. Think about it, if he had continued to play 18-20 plays a game, maybe 30, he wouldve looked so good in small samples, JR woulda had no choice but to ink him, and then we wouldve been stuck with the bad back man for the foreseeable future. At least now JR comes into negotiations with opened eyes.

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
FREE RORSCHACH44!!!

by wilddre22 on Nov 26, 2010 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wow

The “smart” part of the signing was structuring the contract so that they could cut Andrews loose at the end of the year with no financial burden for doing so. He was not signed to be groomed. I don’t buy that the problem here is he got “rushed” into action due to injuries. I think the Giants were thinking two things when they signed him. First, oh crap we have no depth at OL, shoot we need to sign someone who might be competent but we can throw away when need be. Second, this Andrews guy at one time was a player, maybe we can take a flyer on him to help with that depth but structure the contract so we can toss him if he still has health or mental issues. Under the circumstances I guess it is hard to fault Reese for doing the deal especially when he did it so that it hurt less when it all went wrong (which is what is happening here). When taking a look at the bigger picture where you have to fault Reese is letting the team get to a point where it needed to be relying on that gamble or even thinking about making that gamble. If the offensive line had been well tended to before this season we would have never been in the mix at trying to give Andrews “redemption” in the first place.

by bigblue777 on Nov 26, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

really?

I come back from a nice turkey day and this is the news you greet me with Ed? Are you purposely trying to cause me indegestion, or just being the Grinch who stole my happy thanksgiving weekend away from me?

Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
FREE RORSCHACH44!!!

by wilddre22 on Nov 26, 2010 11:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah..I Wonder what Ed's dog looks like..Probably has a branch lashed to its head..

His news on our O-line..is like a sleigh-ride to ‘Who-Ville’…

We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!

by Bobbiblue on Nov 26, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Andrews isn't the problem.

What is this, the third year in a row we’ve been decimated with injuries in the second half? Maybe Jerry Palmieri isn’t as good as everyone thinks he is.

by Frigidevil on Nov 26, 2010 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

A metaphor for the season

At first we were in the driver seat and then all hell broke out…

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=262458&title=video-breakdown-sleepy-cab

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Nov 26, 2010 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

Inside look at the G-Mens weight room

How back problems lead to head aches…

http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2010/01/tosh-0-takes-on-deadlift-faint-guy

When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.

by Fester McDougal on Nov 26, 2010 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

This 'Musical Chairs has to end..

What music are they playing?..‘Taps’??

We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!

by Bobbiblue on Nov 26, 2010 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

that's funny...

"18 and 1...write THAT down!!" -- AP at XLII

by nywins42 on Nov 26, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sad everytime i log on to BBV

and see something like “Report: Shawn Andrews Hospitalized With Back Pain” if i log off fast enough maybe i didn’t just see what i thought i just saw.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

by Troy O on Nov 26, 2010 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

I also wont say i told you so..

Beatty should start and S Andrews in heavy packages.

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

by Troy O on Nov 26, 2010 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

this is tough news

Andrews was a good signing and a valuable contributor while healthy. I am amazed and surprised how quickly some of you guys are to toss this guy aside. He played his heart out for us and even jepordized his health by taking an epidural to help the team. If he wasn’t pressed into full time action by all the O-line injuries, he might have had more time to heal properly from his major back surgery. He could have beged out of games and limited his snaps but he didn’t. He played hard for us. He obviously has talent and perhaps in time his back will be healthy enough for him to be a starter in this league again. As I see it, he wasn’t complaining or saying her can NEVER play 85 snaps, just that it was a drastic increase for a guy coming off major back surgery. He just got back into the league and went from a guy recovering from major back surgery to playing the most important position on the o-line. I think the guy deserves more sympathy and leeway than you guys are giving him. I hope JR does the right thing and re-work his contract in a reasonable why so that we can see if he can display his obvious talent injury free again. The giants are a class organization and will do the right thing for a guy who took chances with his health for the team.

by blueforever on Nov 26, 2010 9:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Your right..absolutely right..

Andrews wants to be a Giant..and they’ll do the right things to see to it that he is..but him being able to walk is the most important thing..He’s playing through pain..the worst kind of pain..and every player he’s faced never had their number called..He’s done a great job and I really hope things work out for him and he can stay with the Giants..He was criticised as a head case, but I haven’t seen it..Last week with no practice he said he was going to do everything possible to play..and he did…but I don’t like a guy having to take a needle to be able to play..You can only fool your body for so long.

We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!

by Bobbiblue on Nov 26, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

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