New York Giants Notes: Who Will Catch On?
by Ed Valentine on Nov 23, 2010 7:00 AM EST
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PrintWhat options do the New York Giants have for replacing Hakeem Nicks? Not a whole lot of good ones at this point, that's for sure. Let's look at a few of them.
First, let's look at guys who are already in the organization.
- Darius Reynaud: Technically, the third-year player is a wide receiver. At least that is where he practiced with Minnesota for two years and this season with the Giants, when he was not returning kicks. In three seasons he has never caught an NFL pass. Oh, and there is the small matter of his being inactive the last two weeks due to a hamstring injury. Who knows if he is even healthy enough to factor into the equation.
- Samuel Giguere: The 5-foot-11, 215-pound Giguere has been on the Giants' practice squad the past several weeks. He played one game with Indianapolis last season and did not catch a pass. He did, however, returned five kickoffs for an average of 24.4 yards.
- Antrel Rolle: This is, sadly, not really a joke. Rolle, apparently, has volunteered and the Giants are desperate enough that Tom Coughlin did not rule it out when asked Monday afternoon about Rolle playing receiver.
Now, let's look outside the organization. Mind you that bringing one of these guys in would force the Giants to cut or IR someone and they might be loathe to do that right now considering how decimated the roster already is. Tuesday is the day the Giants always work out free agents, and they will be looking at receivers today.
- Kevin Curtis: He is a seven-year veteran, the last three with Philadelphia. Word is that Curtis was among the players who received a tryout last week when the Giants re-signed Derek Hagan. He is 32, and played just three games (catching six balls) for Philadelphia last season. Curtis did catch a career-high 77 passes in 2007, his last full NFL season.
- Tim Brown: Tiny Tim made it to the final week of preseason with the Giants before getting cut. The Rutgers grad hooked on with the Arizona Cardinals practice squad, but was eventually released. He is not currently with another NFL organization. The issue here would be experience, and from what I can gather the Giants reaching out to Brown this week seems highly unlikely.
Derek Hagan has gone from his cough to the Giants' roster and now, to the starting lineup, in a week. Hagan, cut by the Giants at the end of the preseason, now has a chance to resurrect his career.
"It's just crazy how this game of football works. Guys are here one minute and the next day guys are getting hurt. But we know those things may arise, and if something like that happens, the next man that's there has got to step up and fill that role," Hagan said. "I knew eventually some team was going to call. It didn't matter who it was, but it's just crazy how these things can work out. One day a team - they may need a receiver but the next day a different position gets hurt so they've got to bring in somebody else. So I just told myself just stay in shape and if things didn't happen this year, I definitely was looking forward to next year. But I'm in shape and I'm ready to go and I'm here now."
Hagan, 26, is a five-year veteran. He caught three passes Sunday night for 10 yards and a touchdown. The 6-foot-2, 215-pound Hagan has 64 career receptions.
Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. Of course, Coughlin and Eli Manning spent a great deal of time on Monday talking about the Generous Giants and their pigskin-giving ways.
Here is Coughlin:
"We've been talking about this turnover business for an entire season and last night, unfortunately, in a very hard fought game, once again it reared its ugly head," the coach said. "If we would stop being our own worst enemy, then we would have a chance to go forward here and win some football games."
Here is Manning discussing the turnovers:
"You have to be smarter. I don't think there is one thing that you say, "Oh, we just have to do this and it'll eliminate it." It's about just being conscious about it and being smart. We still have to compete, and we still have to go out there and play hard. You're going to have to make some throws that are tight but you don't have to force things that aren't there and you have no shot," Manning said. "For the most part, that's not the case. I don't think an interception - I'm throwing it into crowds and forcing things. You just have to be very accurate, put in the right spot, make my right reads, and just play smarter."
Best Quarterback In New York? In 2010, That Would Be Mark Sanchez - SB Nation New York
It is Mark Sanchez, not Eli Manning, who has been the best quarterback in New York so far in 2010.
Coming into the season, it was a no-brainer when you asked which quarterback playing in the New Meadowlands you'd prefer. The answer was Eli Manning, who was (and still is) a much more accomplished professional quarterback and was coming off a much better individual 2009 campaign than Mark Sanchez.
Yet, surprisingly it has been Sanchez who is putting together a better season so far in 2010. As a matter of fact, it is Manning who is protecting the football like the erratic second-year quarterback Sanchez is supposed to be and Sanchez who is calmly leading game winning drive after game winning drive like the accomplished, battle-tested veteran Manning is supposed to be.
I really hate myself for this, but I can't argue with the assertion above from Joe Caporoso, Jets' writer for me at SB Nation New York.
Here is something that might provide a little fun on what looks like a bleak day for Giants' fans. A look at what Giants' uniforms could look like in 2012. They won't really look like this, but with the NFL switching apparel providers from Reebok to Nike, anything can happen.
SIDE NOTE: I am blaming all of the Giants' woes the last two weeks on our new man here at BBV, Mike Farley. The Giants have not won a game since Mike joined us, and players are dropping like flies. Then again, maybe it's my fault for bringing Mike here in the first place. If the Giants don't win soon ...
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Yes lets burn Farley he's a witch!!!!!!
Yahoo is reporting that we are working out Michael Clayton
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
Step up and Free FREE BRADSHAW!!
Booo!
Just kidding Mike!
When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".
Bill Parcells
by Great Gatsby on Nov 23, 2010 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
That wouldn't suprise me.
Veteran. Makes sense.
I want more JPP and I want it now!
I agree
with the mike Farley sentiment.
Since his “Dallas laughing stock” post it is the Giants who have become snakebit
by G Fan in England on Nov 23, 2010 7:32 AM EST reply actions
As slot receivers
It is totally ridiculous but given the circumstances, maybe worth a try.
Better than taking Rolle off the D, that would be a disaster.
Doubt it will happen but Giants did call my 6 year old daughter last night to see if she fill in at slot. She has to go to school and cannot practice so they nixed her.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 7:46 AM EST up reply actions
Compartment Syndrome?
What the hell is that? I am no doctor, and didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
I also heard Bill Clinton was once very good at compartmentalizing things, does that help?
Ugh!
When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".
Bill Parcells
Sounds like claustraphobia to me...
We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!
In Philly
they allegedly suffer from Santaphobia…
by G Fan in England on Nov 23, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions
I had it.
I had it on both legs and had surgery done for both at the same time. It’s a painful condition where the muscle pretty much pinches the nerve and you legs go numb and there is a shooting pain. The muscel is restricted by a covering called the facia, which isn’t flexable, so the faciatomy is basically slicing that open so the muscel pressure is relieved. My recovery was about 2 months before i could WALK without much pain, but that was both legs I started therapy after that and its a rough therapy, I didn’t run until 3 months later and sprint a little bit after 3 months. Again, I had both legs done and wasn’t doing therapy daily, so he might recover quicker.
ugh
2 wr’s on the roster…. unbelievable. i guess they will bring giguere up… but eli is gonna have a tough time getting in synch with hagan AND giguere. manningham is the guy for now… wow am I dreaming??
It is a nightmare
Riches to Rags
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
Anybody know
more about Kevin Curtis’ story? I heard the other day he had some form of cancer last year, and was out the entire 2009 season?
When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".
Bill Parcells
Had Cancer
Had Cancerous teste removed
Now trying to find team.
UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Η κόλαση δεν έχει μυστικά
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!
"fuk u i hate peas"- CNCITINFO (Random BGN troll)
exactly
last year wr corps was the big ??? then they came on strong….. now they r one of our strengths and all injured…oh the irony….. curtis i believe broke his leg last year…on IR…. came to camp but was cut with eagles….he is good when he is 100% but… def a posession guy.
I heard
he had some form of cancer last year as well, I am familiar with who he is, just wondering?
Maybe he could help out in the slot?
When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".
Bill Parcells
by Great Gatsby on Nov 23, 2010 8:02 AM EST up reply actions
I read
He Had Testicular Cancer, He refused Radiation so He could still Play Football. That’s what I read.
by RagingBattleAxe on Nov 23, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
oh wow..
didnt remember the cancer part. but i do remember him going off on opening day last year… then he hurt his neck.
Click on reply
as a helpful hint, yeah I was watching a lot of the earlier games last Sunday on the Sunday Ticket, when I stopped at the Lions game, they mentioned he was in for a workout with them.
That’s where I heard something brief about it (worked out for Giants last week too).
When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".
Bill Parcells
by Great Gatsby on Nov 23, 2010 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
Best QB in New York
Although I am totally P.O.’d with Eli these days I would still rather have him at the helm vs. the Sancise. Let me remind your Jets counterpart that we did not have to depend on last minute heroics to bet the Texans.
I hear you
The argument was framed in the “who is playing better right now?” mode, and after the past couple of weeks it’s hard to argue for Eli in that sense. Overall, yes, I would definitely take Eli.
by Ed Valentine on Nov 23, 2010 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
The Sanchise
IS playing better, he is taking care of the damn ball. Of course I would rather have Eli, but with receivers down, the interceptions won’t be, I am afraid.
When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".
Bill Parcells
by Great Gatsby on Nov 23, 2010 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
Did not find stuff about cancer
Said he had arthroscopy on left knee.
This looks like he has potential:
His nine catches for 205 yards and three touchdowns tied Lee Evans for the most receiving yards during the first half of a game since 1987. Curtis finished the day with 11 catches for 221 yards and three touchdowns.
Apparently, he had a previous tryout with Giants but was not signed. Don’t know why.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 8:11 AM EST reply actions
that was in 2007
I actually like Curtis, he’s a very talented receiver who could just never stay healthy. It can’t hurt to give him a try out and maybe a spot on the roster. We’d only need him healthy for a few weeks (of course with our injury luck there’s like a 1% chance of that happening)
2009 Did Not Happen
1%?
Why so high? He will get injured signing the contract, stab himself with the pen or something.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
he had a cancerous testicle removed
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Why do I feel...
like our season has been broadsided by a torpedo? Losing Smith hurt bad, losing Nicks is a travesty. Our running game was inept last Sunday (mostly due to OL) and now the only thing that has been working has been lost. Hagan and Manningham as our 1 and 2, sorry everyone, that is a HUGE problem. Our defense better start shutting people out. Yes, I am pessemistic at this point. We still have to play the Eagles again, along with the Skins (who are they anyway, I dont think they even know) and the Packers. Yesterday, I thought 10-6 was a given. Now, I am hoping for an above .500 finish. I do not trust the whole Smith back in 2 weeks.
yeah, when I
first read about Nicks (on BBV of course) I seriously thought it was a joke….and I was waiting for a punchline that never came. Not having Nicks and Smith in this part of the schedule sucks, but better now than when we play Philly again…maybe we’ll get them both back then and will have a few more W’s and momentum. It’s really important to get the run game going
IR
When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".
Bill Parcells
by Great Gatsby on Nov 23, 2010 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
IR Hamstring
Probably a mistake in retrospect
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
yea prob pulled the IR trigger a bit too soon.
but then hindsight is 20/20
retrospect schmetrospect
We called it on here when they did it. We’d still have our heads above water if our WR core was the Man, Cruz and Hagan. Now look at us.
The ironic part is this is the EXACT reason we drafted the pharoah, and now he’s on IR too. FML
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
by wilddre22 on Nov 23, 2010 9:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
IR with a hamstring injury
probably would be ready to play at this point. Bad decision.
2009 Did Not Happen
the way things are today with all the injurys and shuffling of rosters the nfl really needs to extend the roster or come up with a DL system
by LT's Will Power on Nov 23, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
agreed completely
a DL system would really be the best. You could do a 4-game, 8-game, and 12-game options. It’s just absurd that you have to sign guys off the street when you have more talented players out for the year because they were hurt in training camp, even though they’re healthy now.
2009 Did Not Happen
they will have to either expand the roster or the draft if...
…they want to go to the 18-game season. There aren’t the numbers in the current system in terms of bodies to fill a 53-man roster for a 18-game season. The NFL draft was 12 rounds as recently as 1992.
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 23, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
I can't wait until the NFL institutes the 18 game season
and we head into week 17 with Eli plus 10 guys signed off the street. That will be fun to watch. /eye roll.
Also, Ed, I’m pretty sure the switch is from Reebok to Nike, not the other way around. I like the Reebok uniforms, and while those images turned out to be fake, it wouldn’t shock me if Nike did something similarly hideous. The Giants ones actually were on the better side – check out some of the other ones, specifically the Patriots, Steelers, and Eagles. Actually, if they’re gonna make the Eagles look like that, I withdraw my objections…
2009 Did Not Happen
Geez
I wrote that backwards. It is Reebok to Nike.
by Ed Valentine on Nov 23, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
The way we're playing..get a contract with Walmart and dress our guys in leotards..and glittery red slippers..
No need for helmets..They all have concussions anyway…“Think” is a word they can’t comprehend..
We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!
ROTFLMAO, HAHA
Maybe they can click their heels together 3 times, use Toto as a WR and hold on to the ball.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
WTH?
I have no problem saying that these were either designed by a clueless woman or a gay man. Check out the piping/hem, etc just above the thigh pads. Totally highlights and point right to the package or lack thereof. Not to mention trying to incorporate a pattern on either the shoulders or the sleeves.
Does this mean that if Nike now holds the rights to the uniforms, that they have the rights on the millions of jerseys sold each year? I can not see any one you guys, or myself, walking around in jerseys with these designs.
I really hope this was someone with too much time on their hands and not for real.
Hate the college ones too, let Oregon keep them.
Miami U looked liked someone hurled jagerbombs all over them. The eagles can stay all shiney too. This is FOOTBALL, not b-ball, soccer, or gymnastics!
by Last year in Sec 127 on Nov 23, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah it sucks
I was for 18 games, or at least neutral to whether it happens or not.
Now, make it stop!
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Sanchez better then Eli?
lol..one week and he’s playing better? Against the Texans…and …I can’t I’m gonna burst out laughing. Sanchez is not better.
Lets give the god damn Eagles some credit for once, their defense was excellent and got in Eli’s head. In no single way in hell can Sanchez be better then Eli.
As for WR, Curtis would be here last week if he was ready.
I like the Giguere dude and lets throw to Beckum more already.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
they disregard ...
the fact that eli is playin with a patchwork OL and is missing his top receiver…. sanchez has holmes back and edwards actually used his hands on sunday…
Sanchez who?...The rythmm guitarist for Santana?
We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!
Eli's got the better passer rating (despite all the INT's)
of course we all know how useless passer rating is, and Sanchez has the better record and has been more clutch…
(lets see if this turns into another 500 post digression like the Hakeem Nicks thread yesterday)
2009 Did Not Happen
I can't believe I just went through and read that entire thread
What complete dribble.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Nov 23, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
Want my time back
I did the same last night, and want that 10 minutes of my life back.
What amazed me was the number of people I’ve never seen posting in that thread. I’ve been lurking for quite a while, just started to post. But, I saw so many usernames that aren’t part of most of the sane discussions here, just blasting Eli.
Not that he doesn’t deserve a kick in the ass for that fumble, but really, passer rating to prove he’s a bad QB?
I felt like I was talking to my 6 y.o. about why she shouldn’t be leaving her shoes in the hallway for people to trip over them.
I didn't even know about the passer rating (nor really care..)
but I see both play every Sunday. Sancehz is solid and has a better supporting cast/offensive coordinator then Eli had early on…but the eye test just says he is in no way better.
None.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
footwork
is the one area where sanchez has eli- lot of teams use sanchez film as teaching tape for qb footwork, his is excellent, eli’s is not.
Agree with you guys though, all factors considered eli has slightly better accuracy, usually makes better reads and has a quicker progression.
You guys already mentioned supporting cast, and I think the most important factor is the scheme- the jets are very diverse, and they are a power running team with plenty of play-action boots, which are easy reads and when the fake handoff is to the offensive LT, the defense plays that first. They run all kinds of gadget stuff to get sanchez into easier passing lanes, I have a lot of respect for their system for that.
Eli is smarter at the line
While he may make some boneheaded throws or runs, Eli is IMHO much better at the study of the opponent, and at the line has the ability to change things up, as he’s done, successfully. Of course, that could be the benefit of a few extra years on the field, but with Eli I just get that sense that he knows what the heck is going on, at all times. Whether he executes well on all of it is a different story, as we have seen.
Sanchez, yeah, I’ll give him the better footwork argument, that’s a no brainer.
Supporting cast is absolutely a big part of it. When you have good targets, that can all step up and make big plays, it makes any quarterback look good.
It all comes down to – playing better or not, who would I rather be in the foxhole with, who would give the best chance to win on any given Sunday… and I pick Eli, hands down between the two.
I was ready to dust
Off my cleats and go play a little WR for our boys. But when I was running the 40
I got passed by Brandon Spikes and Maurice Clarrett.
Vick-timized
by Giants56 on Nov 23, 2010 8:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes I'm afraid its time for Mr. Farley to hop on his Harley and go cover the Eagles..
We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!
Can he take Dodge with him?
When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".
Bill Parcells
by Great Gatsby on Nov 23, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
If Mike has Dodge on the back of the bike..they'll have to stop every 25 yards..
We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!
Haha!
When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".
Bill Parcells
by Great Gatsby on Nov 23, 2010 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
LOL!!
That is a great line. Comment of the week!
by Ed Valentine on Nov 23, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
haha
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 23, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Dodge
would not be able to hang on unless he had gloves on
by Mike Farley on Nov 23, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Bradshaw and Jacobs out!!
In a strange set of circumstances, AB and BJ both were put on the injury list due to strained egos.
They were both injured when the NY press assailed them for their poor recent performances.
TC said these were minor injuries, did not know when they would return though, week to week.
The Giants were noted to be trying out Alex Webster and Hugh McElhenny for return engagements since they were said to know the playbook.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 8:37 AM EST reply actions
I heard
79 year old R.C. Owens might be in for a tryout at wide receiver too, no word whether Y.A. will
come in to teach Eli the alley oop pass as well…Maybe Y.A. can teach Eli how to slide?
When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".
Bill Parcells
by Great Gatsby on Nov 23, 2010 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
Frank Gifford might still have a little 'giddy up'..
If they prop up that stewardess in the target end-zone..
We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!
hey look at it this way
next 2 games r at home vs jags and skins…. i think we can win both….. the injuries clear up for the last month of the season… we r done with the cowboys and we still have the eagles at home and the skins 2×. at full strength we can beat anyone….. let the bad times wash out mid season and we finish strong.
THis is going to be tough
Why not put Beckum out wide? I mean, that is how they line him up already, so let him try to show the offensive potential he allegedly has.
We are Indy East
but…..if we stop the stupid mistakes and turning the ball over….we are 9-1.
The only game we got beat on was INDY.
The others we beat ourselves.
Understanding that is part of the game, however, really, Dallas game, and Philly game….we still could have won with all the crap and then, stepped on our collective D*%KS again and gave it to the other team.
Fewell must be crapping himself as well as Coughlin. We have so much talent and can do pretty much any thing against anyone until we F UP and fumble, interception, holding to negate THREE TOUCHDOWNS in one game.
Think back and call me a liar.
Actually..
Our team is a ‘food bank’ for the winless..
We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!
the next man that’s there has got to step up andfill that rolemake big plays," Hagan said.
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 23, 2010 8:53 AM EST reply actions
Hey
keep your cell on, they might be calling you in for a tryout soon, show them how to step up!
When asked if he is scared of the Redskins..
" I am scared of 3 things, spiders, snakes, and the IRS".
Bill Parcells
by Great Gatsby on Nov 23, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
maybe its time to realize....
hey guys big fan here but .. after seeing the schedule before the season i knew we were going to go 8-8 maybe 9-7. until 2 games ago i was pleasantly surprised by how they were playing. now unfortunately my feelings are starting to be correct. with all our injuries and shooting ourselves in the foot i cant see us going very far now. i know other fans are going to disagree and thats fine as this is just an opinion.
p.s. kevin gilbride needs to stop running the ball so much, and put in some quick pass plays like indy does.
we're 6-4
3 games in a row against opponets of the Houston Texans caliber at best. They can’t be 9-4 after the next 3?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
and then they'll go 0-3 of course..right?
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Schedule not so bad
Honestly, I still stand by my 11-5 or 10-6 ending.
I see both games won vs the Skins, win vs Jax, win vs Vikes (even with a new coach). The Eagles and the Pack I think are a toss-up.
Carl Banks put it well yesterday on the FAN when he said we’re a talented team with bad execution, but we are able to win against average teams pretty good. I’m not going to give any rating of above average to the Skins, Jax or the Vikes.
running the ball so much?
Have you watched the last 2 games? And before that we were the 3rd best rushing attack in the league. Why would we stop doing something were good at?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
by wilddre22 on Nov 23, 2010 9:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
We need to go 4 B's and a P
for the next game. Boss, Ballard, Beckum and Bradshaw with Pascoe. Pound the ball. Send Beckum in motion every play to keep LB’s honest. Alternate wideouts and send them deep on every play to keep safeties honest and out of the box.
Mano a mano, our line v. Jax line, straight ahead , nothing fancy. With Smith and Nicks gone it’s time to play smashmouth football.
And
Somehoe find a way to free up Manningham deep and Hagan or Curtis across the middle. Mario and Hagan need to attack the ball!
by Last year in Sec 127 on Nov 23, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
it can be 5 B's
if we call him by his first name… BEAR
"Sack-Forced Fumble-TD against any QB in the history of the NFL.... honestly, It would probably be Eli because I see him in pratice and we can't touch him (laughs)" - Justin Tuck
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 23, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
gotta be Beckum
we’ve been waiting for a chance to get him on the field… well here it is.
On another note, I’ve got tix for the game this week and was wondering what the hell the parking situation is. Do I need to buy a parking pass ahead of time or can I just roll up and pay my 25 bucks like old times, and be allowed in. If I don’t get a pass where do I park?
Or did I need to purchase a PPSL (personal parking spot licence) for the season.
Reynaud
The idea that they use Reynaud is laughable (Ed, I know you were just throwing this out). He cannot hold on to the ball, cannot see an open lane, etc. Poor judgement overall.
If they were to use him, it would be a sign that TC is senile and needs to retire.
They should cut him, he is of no value whatsoever. And they probably will.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 9:16 AM EST reply actions
well
at this point..we got to look at any and all skill players that can step up and make a play. I cant believe this is happening…
The sinorice moss curse? ever since then.. smith gets hurt, barden out for year, nicks hurt…cruz ir’d. what used to be a position where we were looking to cut someone b/c of too much depth…we now are trying to find the next grocery store kurt warner
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
oh so close
at this point..we got to look at any and all skill players that can step up and make a play.
…and it would be preferable if that play were a big play.
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 23, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Baby steps SUaMBP
Unfortunately the situation is so bleak, all we can ask for is baby steps.
And someone should remind the players that they need to be
FORWARD baby steps, not sideways, not backwards… forwards, please!!!
"We must move forward... not backwards, not to the side, not forwards, but always whirling, whirling, whirling towards freedom."
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next."
by Larry Soprano on Nov 23, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
The weird thing is we have guys..
Going down with injuries that I never heard of…I feel like I’m reading the Latin names for plants..
We got 'Vick-imized' by the league MVP...Go Eagles!!!!!!
Never heard of Lisfranc problems till Strahan had it
Now it’s the hot new thing everyone gets. It must be communicable.
Liz Frank?
A hot girl I think I dated.
Seriously, I was on watch for this after I broke my leg skiing. I was hospitalized overnight to see if the swelling was sufficient to require cutting.
Thankfully it did not swell more. It was so painful, I kept waking up screaming from a heavy drug induced sleep.
The guy next to me was also trying to muffle me with a pillow so he could sleep. :)
BTW, I am back skiiing, etc. so you do recover of course.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
tell me about it..
we got to get thru these next weeks. The wild card and divisional race is NOW.
More than needing some good wr replacements..we need eli to be 100M Eli. Theres no more room for error
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
reynaud was a terrible punt return guy... he wasnt a "muff" type problem... he just tippy toed after he caught it.
I saw some tape of him as a WR… maybe he just doesnt like to field punts…. lol na he stinks …u win.
He did muff a couple
As I recall. Somebody tell me if I am mistaken.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
That's why we got Blackmon
If we pick up a WR, be it Clayton or Curtis or whoever, cut Reynaud. What good is he taking up a roster spot if we have Will Blackmon now?
can blackmon catch a pass? believe he once caught passes in his career
51 receptions for 763 yards in 2005 converted from DB to WR that year with Boston College
by LT's Will Power on Nov 23, 2010 9:24 AM EST reply actions
Question is
How good is he with tipping balls, running bad routes and most of all fumbling? We need more of those skills.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
I heard he also can't punt...
…and kicks off out of bounds.
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 23, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
Why I have faith
I think Manning has faith in Hagan. Hagan always got a lot of throws for a #5 WR. And Eli was not shy about throwing his way last week. So I think he trusts him to run the right routes.
I was waiting for an injured player to step up (at any position) and volunteer to play to help the team. Good to hear if from Rolle, although I do not think we are that desperate. But let’s prepare him as a backup just in case.
the only issue is ...
we need rolle as a safety.. i like grant but he cant cover ground as well as rolle. if rolle gets hurt on offense it ends up hurtin both sides of the ball
Sinorice Moss must be going ballistic
“You gotta be shittin me???!!!”
" I wasted 4 years of my life trying to climb the depth chart and now they’re talking about using a safety as a receiver??" “I don’t F*cking believe this!!!”
Right about now I am missing the little guy
by Late for Dinner on Nov 23, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
you may be the only one
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
by wilddre22 on Nov 23, 2010 10:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
nope.
I’d like to have him on the roster about now
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
for what?
waving towel duties are reserved for Darius Reynaud already. that’s all he was good for.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
when he got in the game, he caught the ball.
THAT..is all.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
you're right
in 37 career games, he caught the ball 39 times. a little over one catch per game…man do we miss him!
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
FREE RORSCHACH44!!!
Very Pithy
and I bet Moss is pithed off.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
Mike Farley.....
I was really enjoying Mike’s post but we gotta let him go to win some games. LOL.
Yeah, but ....
Do we put him on the season-long list, or are we going ‘waive him injured’ in a couple of weeks? Better take a poll.
by Ed Valentine on Nov 23, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
waive him injured
he’s a new acquisition..so we dont want any suspiscious reports to buzz
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
whatever
gets me the most money, I’ll take it!
by Mike Farley on Nov 23, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Eli has got to step up
Maybe now is when KG becomes the Wiz man and creates schemes and packages with Beckum, Bear, n Boss. And force matchup issues by first running the ball SUCCESSFULLY making teams play lbs on our spread te’s …then playing the PA pass with the mismatched slower lb’s on our Pass catching TE’s.
But thinking about the decemitation of the wr’s.. the best way to fix this is surge life back into our running game..b/c if we continue to struggle witht he o line we currnently have starting..then this is going to be a long few weeks.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
Samuel Giguere
Even if we bring him to active roster we would be losing somebody …probably Hedgecock ?
I'm ready to lose hedge
Bear has shown me that he is fully capable of handling fullback duties from here on out.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
by wilddre22 on Nov 23, 2010 10:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
DONT SAY THAT!!
You dont want to make Bear the next doomed by the Grim Reaper!
by Manning_Complete_To_Ma on Nov 23, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just hoping
that the first play from scrimmage for the Giants is a bomb. Even if it’s an incomplete pass, we need to send the message that we are still going to pass. I think that this WR issue will have a greater effect on the rushing game over the passing game. We must keep the extra guys out of the box, but if the defense wants to load up to stop the run, then Manningham, Hagen, Bekum and myself will have to step up and make big plays.
i dont think
An incomplete pass, whether its 4 yards or 40, will change a teams strategy that much. Fact is, we’ve still gotta finish the play. And if hagan and all the other replacements are running around with there heads in there asses, that 8th man will stay in the box, guaranteed.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
by wilddre22 on Nov 23, 2010 10:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree...
Injured Oline (playing well in pass defense though) and a decimated WR corps will beg for the run to be attacked. I like Hagan and was surprised that he was released so I think he will play hard and contribute like he did last week. Look for those bubble screens to Manningham…he can get loose on those. I’m also expecting to gadgets…end-arounds, double reverses, and we will probably see that “flea-flicker” this week.
"18 and 1...write THAT down!!" -- AP at XLII
PUT ME IN, COACH!!
I will say that I am a “diva” and will be a cancer in the locker-room. I will bitch out caterers and refuse to answer questions from the media…also, I am filming 19 reality shows right now and even though I don’t think they will will effect my performance on the field…they will. So, where is my locker?
P.S. – Oh, I can’t catch so…yup…there is that whole issue.
"18 and 1...write THAT down!!" -- AP at XLII
Had dinner and drink with Ditka and Hogge
the other night, and they seem to think this season is going to resemble 07’ in that once week 13+ rolls around and we get guys back, we have a favorable last few games to go 10-6 and win wildcard….im hoping they are right or still feel the same when i see them next week again lol
by KP21andCompany on Nov 23, 2010 11:05 AM EST reply actions
Toomer
I mean really he is still better than some rookie that needs to learn a team.
by Giant_In_Texas on Nov 23, 2010 11:14 AM EST reply actions
I like Kevin Curtis
He’s a great route runner and very smart. He scored a 48 on his wonderlic.
Someone needs to tell this team
You are a good football team who makes enough mistakes to lose games. All great football teams are good football teams who limit mistakes enough to win. The mistakes you are making (forcing passes into coverage, fumbling during extra effort, choosing to dive on the pile rather than hold your assignment, catching a 3rd down pass short of the first down marker, holding, jumping off sides) are mistakes of desperation. You are a good, talented football team. You have to decide if you want to be the team that can potentially win in spite of itself because it gets fortunate while playing desperate football…or the team that KNOWS how good it is, KNOWS it can win, and plays in a business-like manner, everyone doing their job, holding their assignments, running their routes, and maintaining their composure for 60 minutes because the guy next to you depends on that kind of solid, reliable play to do his job too.
In spite of all the injuries, I know we could have easily beat Philly without those mistakes. The same goes for the Nicks injury. If the replacements do their jobs, then Eli and the rest of the veterans can concentrate on being great and not worry about the bench players next to them.
We don't play for the wild card around here kid
You are correct
and that is why I am on TC’s case.
He really needs to fire Quinn, needed to do that way back.
And team motivation and discipline lie on the shoulders of the coach.
Four games this year lost because he failed. Well, maybe one was Fewell not being flexible against the Peyton machine.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Kevin Cutris
is getting over testicular cancer and the surgery he had a few months ago isnt he?
by KP21andCompany on Nov 23, 2010 11:36 AM EST reply actions
Side note...
So, in reading the article about Clayton possibly getting a try out, I want to again express my opinion on something. Given this rash of injuries this year, and of course knowing the injuries from last year, why doesn’t the NFL treat the UFL as a minor league system? This way, the players are in “football shape and football mode” and can easily be called up when needed. Eliminate the practice sqaud and each team can have a minor league team. The UFL has survived year one and looks to be surviving this year too. Either that, or just increase the amount of those on the practice squad. Anyway, just throwing this out there…
Eli quote
Having Derek [Hagan] here last week will help," he said. "He will have another week. Mario will have a big week and I got to get these tight ends into the mix. We will have to be kind of creative with some formations and personnel and get some of these young guys, whether it is [Duke] Calhoun, and let’s go play.
beckum is best option
Beckum who has seen action here and there knows the offensive better then any wide rec free agaent out there. We need to pick up somebody for a body but beckum hand decent hands and unlike manningham seems to know where the first down maker is. I don’t think we will see a different offense of plan for the most part. The plan works the plays called are good we just need to look off coverage and not be afraid to dump it off to the check down rec on 1 and 2 down if passing.
by hit_hard on Nov 23, 2010 12:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The issue with Beckum is speed
He has good hands but not the speed against a CB. Needs to get an LB on him so use Hagan at the other WR (Calhoun if needed) and Beckum maybe slot?
’Course, I will stay away from his make believe TE status and the “I cannot block my Grandma”.
All the Giants should play like Mark Bavaro.
by UnknownJintsFan on Nov 23, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
why does eli throw to boss only when hes going 2 get hammered?
Someone asked this yesterday and didn’t have the time answer. Of course eli never intents to get boss hurt. This happens bcuz eli throws 2 boss mostly in the cover 2..why bcuz he’s normally wide open . The corners are in man, the MLB drops 7 to 10 yards in zone, and the 2 safeties drop deep in coverage. This leaves a huge whole in the middle of the field. Bcuz boss is not the fastest tight end eli has line men in his face by the time this play developes, so he has to throw high and hard to get it to boss. Once the ball is about to be throw the safeties start closing in on boss. Bcuz there job is to drop deep and watch the QB. Boss normally has to jump for the high throw ball leaving him exsposed to the closing. Safeties. Trust me boss knows this will happen he reads the defensive and gets himself in postion 2 take this hit.being 6’6 makes boss perfect for this play which is always 20 plus yrds.srry didn’t post earlier, just a little tightend 101
by hit_hard on Nov 23, 2010 12:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Anthony Mix!
Anyone remember him from 2007? He was a big guy in the mold of Plax (6’5 230ish) but we cut him when we got Hixon. I think he’s in the Arena League now after bouncing around to a few NFL teams.
Might be a stretch….but why not at least work him out at this point. I remember the team was pretty high on him back then. If we’re talking about Rolle becoming a WR….then this isn’t all that farfetched either lol.
Antonio Bryant
Know that the guy can be a knucke head but he is big, fast and has reliable hands.
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