'Five Questions' With Blogging The Boys
With Jason Garrett taking over for Wade Phillips as head coach, this is an interesting week for our New York Giants to be hosting the Dallas Cowboys. It is also an interesting week to chat with Dave Halprin, editor of SB Nation's Cowboys website, Blogging The Boys.
Here is this week's 'Five Questions' segment with Dave. My answers to his questions will be available over at BTB. Play nice over there, fellas. I don't want to be dishing out 'taunting' penalties.
Big Blue View: You have probably written and talked more about Wade Phillips this week than you ever wanted to. Are you surprised it took Jerry Jones this long to remove Phillips as head coach, and how much blame do you assign to Phillips for the mess that has been the Dallas season?
Blogging the Boys: I'm not really surprised it took Jerry Jones this long, he's never changed coaches mid-season before and he's been telling us for a few weeks that it wouldn't happen this year. Based on that, I feared he might actually stick to his guns and force the same old thing on us for the rest of the season. Then the Green Bay game happened, and it was so awful, he was forced to pull the trigger. Wade Phillips deserves some of the blame in this mess, he had lost his team. The defense, which was his responsibility as coordinator, had totally fallen apart. The problem here is that Wade was running the same things he's always run, and the Cowboys defense was really good in recent years. So a lot of the blame goes to players for not executing. Still, he was powerless to shake them out of the doldrums, so he had to go.
Big Blue View: Were you surprised at all by the choice of Jason Garrett, whose star really seems to have dimmed the past couple of seasons? Was this a case of 'he makes the money so he gets the job' or does Jerry Jones really think Garrett can do the job? Do you think Garrett can do anything w/the opportunity?
Blogging The Boys: I wasn't surprised at all. I had been writing about, and predicting it, for a couple of weeks. I think Jerry Jones has always been interested in what Jason Garrett could do as a head coach, and the opportunity presented itself this week. I'm not sure he would have hired Garrett if Wade had finished out the season and he was looking for a new coach in the 2011 offseason. But given where we are today, I think it was the right choice to make. I'm not sure how well Garrett will do, but I already like the change in demeanor, and hopefully the culture, around the Cowboys. Garrett's a no-nonsense guy who's not as friendly with the players as Phillips. Garrett's offense has been productive over the last few seasons (I'm throwing out 2010), so that gives me some hope.
Big Blue View: JJ will never really take any of the blame for the Cowboy meltdown, but from outside it seems pretty obvious a lot of it lands at his doorstep. From here, it seems like the biggest obstacle to the Cowboys being what Jones thinks they should be -- and fans think they should be -- is Jones' ego. Give me a reaction to that statement?
Blogging The Boys: Sure, Jerry Jones deserves some of the blame. He's the GM/Owner and is heavily involved in all the decisions made by the Cowboys. There's no way around giving him some blame here. But when it comes down to it, it's the players who are at fault. This was a playoff team last year and one on an upward trajectory, and they fell apart. I can't lay all of that at Jerry's doorstep. He does a lot of great things for the organization and really cares about what happens with the Cowboys. Would I like him to step back and hire a GM? You bet'cha. But that isn't going to happen, so we'll see what the future holds for us.
Big Blue View: Forgetting the management side, what are you seeing on the field that are the biggest issues the Cowboys have to address?
Blogging The Boys: The Cowboys are a very undisciplined football team. They make mental mistakes, they make physical mistakes. They accumulate penalties, they get out of gap responsibility on run defense, they play poor technique in the secondary, they have constant breakdowns on the offensive line. They are just fundamentally unsound. We know they have talent, essentially the same team has won in previous season. Oh yeah, there's that Tony Romo thing, too. Thanks, Giants!
My take: I have to jump in here while Dave is thanking us for the Romo injury, and remind Dave that it was Flozell Adams of the Cowboys who caused Justin Tuck to wind up playing with one arm last season thanks to his dirty tactics. Payback, my friend, payback.
Big Blue View: Let's play a little over/under. Halfway through and the Cowboys are 1-7. If I put the over/under at four wins for the season which would you take and why?
Blogging The Boys: With such a small sample (eight games), I feel like pulling a Micheal Wilbon and going for a push at four games as the win total. But, I'm a fan first, and I'm generally an optimist. So I'm going with a 5-11 (or better) season.
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Trolling at BTB =
“Excessive celebration”
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 11, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions
I'll absolutely never be a 'troll' at a fan site..
But I will have loaded guns if they show up here..If I get word that one of our members berates another fan base, then don’t expect to get any responses from me…Trolls are fucking morons..Let’s maintain our high standard of class here..I don’t mind beating them down when they show up here..but we are better than that..Let’s keep it that way..RESPECT
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My question for any Cowfans is,
What matchups do you see as being in Dallas’ favor? Describe how they win, if they do.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 11, 2010 11:50 AM EST reply actions
Well, there is that one guy...no, wait, ok, on the other ide of the line...no, that's not it
Other than the Cowboys having cooler uniforms (which I know is totally and completely subjective) I am coming up blank.
Although I do like what Dez Bryant is doing so far this season. The guy is a player
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Be Cautious My Friends...
There is nothing more dangerous then a wounded animal, the Giants O-Line is hurting & who is to say the G-men don’t play as badly Sunday as they did against Tennessee?
Go out & play as if this is the Dall team of old & take care of business.
Nothing Is Fool proof if you have the right fools.
by GiantsCauseway on Nov 11, 2010 11:59 AM EST reply actions
Ddin't they say
the same thing the last time the Giants played them? They have been a wounded animal for weeks. As long as the Giants don’t help them out, we should take of business.
"No one played more for the Giants, while being coached less".
Ex-Giants coach, Steve Owens, talking about Mel Hein.
by Great Gatsby on Nov 11, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
The Cowboys are way beyond 'must win' status..'Wounded animal' status..all of that bullshit..They are in 'Toast' status..
Firing Phillips has changed nothing..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
The Cowboys aren't a 'wounded animal' anymore at 1-7..
They are a ‘dead horse’..There is absolutely nothing they can change this week from a gameplan perspective that will prevent a serious beating…After what transpired there this week..There’s no way they can stop a runaway train in a few days.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Change of gameplan won't help
but on the other hand, they have to run more, which they won’t be able to, reinforcing that maybe it isn’t such a great idea, which puts them right back on their merry-go-round to nowhere. Ain’t life grand? The one thing they HAVE to do they won’t be able to against the Gmen.
Jerry Jones...
…recently turned 68 years old. I can’t see him being involved in the decision making of the Cowboys for much longer than 5 years more. Like Steinbrenner, the time for him to excuse himself from football decision is going to come.
The real question is — what kind of succession plan will the Cowboys have in place?
The Giants experienced a bit of a down period (mediocre play, bad draft picks) in the twilight of George Young’s storied career as GM, and it took a couple of years under GM Accorsi/Head Coach Fassel to rebuild the team and bring it back to respectability.
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 11, 2010 12:00 PM EST reply actions
68 and 73
is still pretty young. With his ego I can see him hanging in there another 10 years.
There’s a big difference between the comparison of Jerry (Cowboys) and George (Yankees). They Yanks still had their nucleus from multiple WS titles. The Cowboys have 1 playoff win in more than a decade.The Boys went the entire 2000s without a playoff win. YIKES!
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
the big similarity between Jerry and George is...
1) the ego (which you mentioned, and may very well keep JJ around longer than he reasonably should stick around)
2) the focus on producing a global brand and the money it takes to market a team of that stature
Everyone tends to think of the salad days of the Yankees in the late 90s, but it took a long while to perfect that formula in nailing down the right personnel and manager combination. George had plenty of stinkers over the years — Mel Hall, Steve Balboni, Danny Tartabull, etc. — undoubtedly because (like Jerry) he rammed the decision down the throats of the people more knowledgeable about the game.
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 11, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
The biggest
difference is health, and even George knew when to finally turn it over to his “baseball people”….Jerry never got that memo!
"No one played more for the Giants, while being coached less".
Ex-Giants coach, Steve Owens, talking about Mel Hein.
by Great Gatsby on Nov 11, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
No he didn't...
Steinbrenner’s greatest success with his franchise came when he was banned from baseball (thank God) due to the mess involving Dave Winfield. That wasn’t his choice, and it was during that absence that Brian Cashman was free to build the team from the farm system, producing the core of Bernie Williams, Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettite and even Alfonso Soriano that produced (was it 3 or 4?) championships.
by NYStateofMind on Nov 11, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually
although most of your premise is correct, your facts are inaccurate since Ca$hman wasn’t even the GM until 1998. The GM before then was Bob Watson, and Gene Michael had more to do with turning the Yankees around during King George’s second suspension. I am not being an apologist for George, hell I wrote an article to the Sporting News in 1990 that was published (when I actually bought periodicals) because at that point, I had seen enough. Above^^ I said “finally turned it over to his baseball people”, meaning when Ca$hman received his most recent contract. Then I added the part about JJ.
"No one played more for the Giants, while being coached less".
Ex-Giants coach, Steve Owens, talking about Mel Hein.
by Great Gatsby on Nov 12, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
+1
agree 100% George’s early days were similar to Jerry
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
Al Davis is 102
and still keeps the Raiders from being a good team. I don’t see Jerry putting his ego aside, even though when he did give some of the player personnel decisions up they were successful i.e. Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells.
good point, re: Al Davis
He is the gold standard for egomaniac NFL owners whose periodic success deludes them into believing they actually know better than the football minds within the organization.
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 11, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Al Davis
still thinks its 1983
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
lord knows
they’ve had or should of had top 5 pick for 7 years
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by FrankB03 on Nov 11, 2010 1:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I hope we shut down Dez this game.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 11, 2010 12:08 PM EST reply actions
our horrible punt coverage makes Dez look that much better...
…meanwhile, he flubbed the hell out of a sideline punt against Green Bay last week.
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 11, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
unfortunately
the Giants had very little ‘practice’ with their punting game vs Seattle last week. 1 Punt
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That's a trend
I can live with..better than the alternative eh?
"No one played more for the Giants, while being coached less".
Ex-Giants coach, Steve Owens, talking about Mel Hein.
by Great Gatsby on Nov 11, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
All things considered, Dodge has done OK...
…we’re in the top 1/3 in the league in average, with a respectable 44.8 yds. per kick — not bad for having only punted 30 times (tied for 2nd lowest in the league).
The coverage is what is killing us — we are third worst in the league when it comes to return yards yielded (14.8 per return). When the longsnappper DeOssie is the first downfield making tackles, we know there is a problem. The unit itself has covered kicks poorly, but the edge guys haven’t been effective at all (and have they really been since the departure of Tyree?)
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 11, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
we still have to blame dodge
He was line driving kicks = short hang time = better returns. He’s not doing that as much now but considering the sample size, he needs to continue improving.
Dez is next to impossible to shut down. He is a super star in the making.
Every time he gets his mitts on the ball I worry about a trip to the house.
by giant fan since 57 on Nov 11, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Use the same strategy we used in Seattle..
But it won’t matter if he reels off a great run..ain’t going to help..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
DEZ
Is gonna be a problem for years to come if he keeps his work ethic & drive to play no matter what ! Dude is a beast ! He wld be the only 1 I wld take and add to the Giants !
Coach put me in !!! I Love special teams !
by Mr.Williams on Nov 11, 2010 12:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don’t like his attitude.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 11, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
why
in the beginning i didnt either. the truth is roy williams should not only carry dez’s shouldama pads put also his jock.
also i havent really seen dez do anything off the wall
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by FrankB03 on Nov 11, 2010 2:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That one incident
Is one more incident I would like to see out of a rookie.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 11, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
one more incident than I would like to see*
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 11, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
That one incident
Was way over-done in the media. It wasn’t as big a deal as they made it out to be. Besides, the guy was the first 1st round draft pick to sign, first on the field at training camp (while he was healthy), picked up a $50,000 dinner tab, and is consistently the only player on the team who looks like he’s actually interested in playing football. He’s really been better than anyone could have asked, and does something pretty much every week to make you think that Jerry actually got this one right.
I'd rather have Nicks.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 11, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
+100000000000
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
Why not have both?
I think that was the point. I know I wouldn’t mind having Nicks on the Boys.
by somebodyquiet on Nov 12, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
i said this the minute they drafted him
and was told that i was drinkin the koolaid. this kid has all the ability in the world.
This game has me a little nervous
Dallas is a hated division rival so rivalry games can be close even if one team is clearly better than the other. Secondly, as Tuck said Dallas does have talent. It’s very possible they put it together for a week. Third we have a banged up OL and some of the players could be looking torwards the Eagles game (hopefully not). I just hope we win some how dont care about score and of course no players get injured.
thanks for stopping by Dave
and sorry about Romo, sh*t happens i guess,
what kind of effort do you see coming out of that club right now? Is it a save your job type of play hard or will they step up and make the statement that they want Garrett to stick?
Secondly have the Cowboys made any changes (start/sit) since the Wade firing?
I'll rephrase...
Is it a save your job type of play hard or will they step up and make big playsthe statement that they want Garrett to stick?
by Step up and make big plays on Nov 11, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Garrett has made it clear
That in order to play, you will have be accountable/show effort and play within the scheme. The players seem to understand that no one is bigger than the team right now and they are all fighting for their jobs. Having said that, I think they are cautiously optimistic about where he can lead them, and show a little of that this weekend. If nothing else, they have a golden opportunity to really save a little pride. I don’t think anyone has been sat yet, though a couple players have been moved to the IR to open some roster spots for depth/competition. We’ll see where it goes but I expect them to come out and grab a good (moral)victory this weekend. Lol
Thanks for the input, Dave
This is the perfect storm if we are not taking care of dotting the "i"s and crossing the "t"s.
Special Teams have to be more special.
The tests are going to be (1) our coverage, and (2) whether or not we can get to the old man. If our coverage is good and we can rough up the old dude some, we will win it.
C/mon though, please Giants, don’t make it as close as the last one. No “prevent” stuff please.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
I've heard this from Cowboy fans before:
“he was powerless to shake them out of the doldrums”
There seems to be this perception that Dallas almost always has more talent than their competition, but don’t play with as much passion. I think the mistake is to believe the star on the side of the helmet made the player a star as well. Ed often asks other bloggers when player they would take from the Giants. If you were to ask a level-headed Giants fan what player they would take from the Cowboys, and I think they’d be surprised how short the list would be.
Absolutely agree 100%
I’ve been saying that for the past few years to people down here. They have above average talent coupled with a ton of hype. But announcers won’t be doing their duty if they didn’t pick dallas to go to the SB and say they are the most talented team in football. dallas has no advantage over any other team in the NFL. This isn’t the days where they can scam the Vikings out of all those picks by sitting better players and tanking their season. Now they have to conform to a salary cap. And now that Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcels isn’t building their team they are just gonna fall apart. Have fun with garrett, but he’s not the answer.
by Big Blue in tx on Nov 11, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
it goes without saying that these two
would be the ones to grab.
But I wouldn’t mind putting Felix Jones in our backfield with Bradshaw and Jacobs
DeMarcus and Dez.
That’s it. Period. Unless their FG kicker is money from 55.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 11, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't take Dez, we don't need em
Ware and Witten..OK.
And Buehler can kick off pretty well
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
you sure we don't need Dez
see: SS12.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
better route runner
yea.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
2
Ware and Dez
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by FrankB03 on Nov 11, 2010 2:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They have SOME talent..but most are in casts..
The Romo hit was clean..Flozfuck Adams job on Tuck was plain dirt..
Having said that..Dave knows they stink..Their coaching staff is the same..just minus one loser..and for him to even try to defend Jones is a joke..He “means well”..?..So did his yes man..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Wow
guess who picked Coach Tom as midseason coach of the year….. Thats rights, Tiki.
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nfl/22965016#nfl/22965016
it comes at the end but the quote that killed me was “I’ve always said he was a good coach, now he’s finally proved it”. WHATTTTTTTT?, Finally?, so 2007 meant zippo I guess?
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 11, 2010 1:37 PM EST reply actions
+1
Amazing how that guy has completely undone with his mouth everything he did with his legs during his Giants career. Imagine a team’s all-time leading rusher being booed in his home stadium. What a jackwagon.
yep....big douche
Is this guy on some kind of meds or something? He needs to go away and shut his horsemouth.
the clown
just never knows when to stfu
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by FrankB03 on Nov 11, 2010 2:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It says something about a guy
that actually compliments and praises TC and he still looks like a jerkoff.
stay classy Tiki
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 11, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Tiki
Capitol Hill awaits your presence.
"No one played more for the Giants, while being coached less".
Ex-Giants coach, Steve Owens, talking about Mel Hein.
by Great Gatsby on Nov 11, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
players id take from the cowboys?
ware, bryant, and WITTEN. id really like to see a 2 tight-end set with boss and witten.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
something about witten irks me
maybe it’s just that he’s good. But I hate his face.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 11, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
"I hate his face"
I do this too… see this is what you get for playing in the NFC east for a team not named the Giants.
Is he a good player? Yeah he’s a great player.
Is he a good person? Sure he’s fine, seems like a stand up guy.
Is he a good teammate? Other than TO, who doesn’t count, he seems to get along well.
So how come you don’t like him? Listen, I don’t know… stop asking me these questions. I just hate his frigging face all right?
by Oppenheimer919 on Nov 11, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Witten is the best TE in the league..Of course we'd take him..Boss and Witten?..Damn that sounds sweet..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Witten
Would be a waste of talent for this offense, much like Boss is.
"We’re going to hit the quarterback as many times as possible, and if he doesn’t make it through the game, then that’s unfortunate for him."
-Barry Cofield
by tito (eight and oh) on Nov 11, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Waste yeah
But we’d have two tight ends that can actually block on the roster.
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
I'd take
either Ware or Ratliff. Although, haven’t heard much about Ratliff this year, he has been a beast in the middle for them years past. Even though he looks undersized, for a smallish guy and to be as disruptive as he is in a 3-4 is pretty impressive.
What was this?
I could understand one or two questions about the coaching change but none of these had to do with the actual game. The Cowboys over/under? Issues the Cowboys have to address? SMH. The last Five Questions with BTB was lacking too.
Better questions would have been:
1. The Cowboys’ front seven used to be a big strength but it hasn’t played that well in recent weeks. Now the entire defense, and especially the D-line, is dealing with a lot of injuries. Who is out and who has replaced them? How is the depth if the Giants decide to wear them out by running the ball a lot?
2. Is there a possibility that the Cowboys try to get in a few extra hits – legal or illegal – on Eli as payback for essentially ending their season? Have you heard players let anything slip out to the Dallas media?
3. Garrett has called Cowboys games for a few years now. The Giants are pretty familiar with his offense. In his first game as head coach, he could want to play it safe or he could decide to hold nothing back and throw everything at the Giants D. Do you expect him to run the same plays or thrown in a few wrinkles?
4 and 5 could have been the obligatory questions about the coaching change.
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
Start your
own community site, then ask what you want? In the meantime, more on Wade:
After Phillips addressed the team a final time, the players gave him a standing ovation.
Boy is that lame, if you played for the guy, he might still be there.
"No one played more for the Giants, while being coached less".
Ex-Giants coach, Steve Owens, talking about Mel Hein.
by Great Gatsby on Nov 11, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
In other words
When the moderator at another site answers our questions arrogantly or rudely, it’s fair game to insult, criticize, and chastise him. When a BBV moderator asks questions that don’t relate to the actual game, we should give him a pass.
Thanks for the clarification.
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
Well
it comes across as arrogant or pompous by YOU, saying :
“better questions would have been”…I offered you a suggestion…By the way, Ed is NOT a moderator, he runs BBV!
"No one played more for the Giants, while being coached less".
Ex-Giants coach, Steve Owens, talking about Mel Hein.
by Great Gatsby on Nov 11, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with
Ghost and BleedBlue12 on this debate. Ed doesn’t have to be arrogant or rude but there’s nothing wrong with asking some tough questions. He asked the same questions that have been regurgitated by the media for days. Also, all one has to do is hop on BTB to get the answers to the same questions he asked. They’ve debated it themselves for weeks.
A few weeks ago Ed created a thread on does Eli DESERVE MVP consideration. We’re talking DESERVE not should he win it. Ed’s opinion was he doesn’t deserve consideration. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But for crying out loud share your opinion. It’s your site. Ed ignored numerous inquires about who was deserving. He asked the same question to Pat Trainia. She also declined to answer. With no further prodding from Ed.
Final point. I often read many other sites especially BTB. Why? The insight, analysis and reviews and recaps of their games is incredible. TOP NOTCH!. Ed is who he is. But give us more than a few links for the members to discuss.
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nah Ghost,
I was thinking the same thing. I get sick of the national sports’ media on insisting on playing “stories” instead of game analysis, and we’ve come to expect Ed to be better than everyone else. This isn’t better than everyone else.
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by Simms-McConkey on Nov 11, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I blame Wade..but I blame his coaching staff more..and yes the players some..
What they are left with are the exact same coaches that got them where they are and that won’t change..they can blame Wade for not being more demonstrative, but he isn’t that kind of person. I remember Bill Parcells making a statement in ‘85 saying there would be major heads rolling if they didn’t play hard..That came from a head coach not an owner..It means more coming from the coach..Wade didn’t have that ability to turn up the heat he never has..but again, what is left is status quo..Their season is finished..they may beat the skins and win a couple of games..that’s about it..They sure as hell ain’t waltzing into the Meadowlands Sunday to face a well coached team, who’s players believe in the system..believe in their coaches, especially Tom Coughlin..The Cowboys obviously don’t know their playbook you can tell when you see the blatant mistakes..Missed hand-offs, wrong passing routes. the secondary arguing over who was supposed to cover who, a cornerback who flat-out stopped and didn’t play through to the end of the play…Do they have some talent? Yes they do have talent…But are they a talented team?..Hell no..not even close..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
you bring up good points . maybe you can bring your thoughts over there.
i myself wont be able to chime in because of my banning .non the less id like to hear answers to those questions.
that said ED does a sick job and am grateful he hasn’t banned me yet.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
I don't get this one..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
ya i would delete if i could
happy hour got the best of me . my girlfriend just told me to watch TV in the next room.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Ghost..This makes no sense..What are you talking about???
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
1. Ratliff is still healthy. His backup, who’s a rookie drafted in the supp. draft, is a Ratliff starter kit and a keeper (Josh Brent). Olshansky is healthy, but he’s good against the run and that’s it. And Bowen will get the start at LE, he’s a good backup. There’s no more depth. We may see a lot more 4 man fronts, with Bowen, Ratliff and Brent playing the inside positions and the OLBs moving to End (Ware, Spencer, Butler and Brandon Williams).
One of the problems in the line play is that they aren’t keeping their lanes. For example, Ratliff is pushing himself too much and considering that he plays at another speed, he tends to leave his teammates behind, opening a lane that shoudln’t be there for a delayed handoff.
The other problems have to do with the LBs and DLine not working in the same page, one example would be a rushing ILB that crashes right at the back of an End, because they rushed through the same gap.
The Cowboys have been fundamentally flawed throughout the whole season.
2. Don’t think so, I’ve never seen something like that, the players know that they aren’t losing because Romo isn’t on the field, they lost games with Romo.
They may try harder to make plays and that may cause an injury, but I can’t see someone wanting to get some payback.
3. Don’t think so, one of the failures of Wade was that as a player’s Coach he believed in his players and that they would, in the end, come out of his ways of poor fundamentals by their own work. Poor fundamentals were evident from the Preseason games and the Jaguars game (week 8) was the breaking point, Wade was forced to go back to the basics in practice to improve the fundamentals. His attempt failed as the team continued to show poor work in the Green Bay game.
With Garrett I can see more of the same, they’ll try to keep things simple in order to get better execution from the players, especially on Defense were I believe some changes are in order.
Pasqualoni worked for the Parcells/Zimmer led Defense, so he’s familiar with their brands of Defense and he was the DCoord of the Dolphins were he fielded a straight up simple version of a 3-4 and lots of deep cover-2.
I can see an improvement on the defensive side with this duo. Maybe not right off the bat, but it will be a matter of time, Garrett and Pasqualoni are 2 attention to detail oriented coaches.
Arnold, almost 5 years of good memories, you'll be missed.
Viva México! Go Cowboys!
anyone see the story about Nicks receiving improper benefits while in college?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5793098
Let's Go Giants!!!!
odd story
Vernon Davis… $20…. really? NCAA and ESPN for reporting this… really?
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Nov 11, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
RIDICULOUS
You cannot let a friend stay at your house for free? I suppose if a bunch of college players rode together in a car for a mile to get dinner, they would have to split the gas costs or get suspended. Everybody ante up 10 cents, please.

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