Giants At Texans: Five Questions With Battle Red Blog
by Ed Valentine on Oct 8, 2010 11:00 AM EDT
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With the New York Giants traveling to Texas this week to face the 3-1 Houston Texans, I reached out to the folks over at SB Nation's Texans website, Battle Red Blog, for some insights about their team. Tim from BRB swapped questions with me, and his answers are below.
Head over to BRB to see my answers to his questions. And play nice -- these guys are smart enough not to be Cowboys fans!
1. After watching the 10-sack performance by the Giants on Sunday against Chicago, are you at all worried about how your offensive line will hold up? I know you have given up 11 sacks thus far.
BRB: Oh, I'm worried. Although the Texans' OL did a tremendous job protecting Matt Schaub last week in Oakland, 11 sacks (and several more hits on top of that) speaks for itself. The Texans will still be without their starting LT, though Rashad Butler has performed admirably in relief of Duane Brown. Eric Winston, Houston's RT, has not been as consistent as he's been in the past, and the interior of the OL can be pushed around. Watching the Giants tee off on Jay Cutler made me laugh, until I realized that the Texans hosted the Giants the following week.
BRB: No one--probably not even his mother--predicted Arian Foster would produce like he has thus far. He looked good in the limited action he had at the end of last year, and he was certainly a force in the preseason, for whatever that's worth. But leading the league in rushing after the first quarter of the season? Never saw it coming.
Foster was on the practice squad for the vast majority of last year and didn't see any game action until the last two games of the 2009 season, primarily because (1) Steve Slaton was phenomenal in his own right in '08 and earned a lot of rope (with which he eventually hanged himself due to fumbles and injury) in '09 and (2) Chris Brown, for reasons completely unknown to Texans fans (totally unfounded speculation centers on him having compromising pictures of Bob McNair or Gary Kubiak), was deemed a suitable Slaton replacement for far, far, far too long. Even thinking about it now, I get angry. Chris Brown made me hate the Cleveland Browns, simply because of his surname and the horror it recalls. Now, though...it's Arian Foster's world, and we're all just living in it.
BRB: Many Texans fans expected that Cushing might be on some sort of a snap count Sunday, given that it's his first real action since the preseason. We appear to have grossly underestimated Cushing's conditioning level</a>, so I would expect him to play as much as he deems himself able. Which is to say, I doubt he misses many, if any, snaps.
In terms of making a difference, he's a monster. While Cushing is not a defensive back and therefore can't directly improve the coverage issues in the secondary, Cushing should make a huge impact on the Texans' defense nonetheless. He's always around the ball, tackles better than almost anyone in the league, and I'd expect (hope?) he gets turned loose on a blitz or two. Brian Cushing has been dreaming of this day for months, and it doesn't appear he's been taking it easy during his time off. Texans fans are expecting a HUGE game from #56 on Sunday.
BRB: Justin Tuck, and it's not even really close. He's a fiend, and he's flexible enough to play some defensive tackle, which would make him even more valuable to the Texans. I'm also intrigued by Kenny Phillips (when healthy) chiefly because the Texans have never really had a free safety, thus leading me to believe the concept is a figment of my imagination. I think seeing an actual FS in a Texans uniform would be akin to seeing a unicorn gallop across a rainbow.
BRB: Ed, I'm a Texans fan. I won't believe the Houston Texans are in the postseason until I see them in a playoff game. Even then, I'll be waiting for Roger Goodell to announce it was all some sort of clerical error. My optimism, as always, is cautious and guarded.
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BRB: Ed, I’m a Texans fan. I won’t believe the Houston Texans are in the postseason until I see them in a playoff game. Even then, I’ll be waiting for Roger Goodell to announce it was all some sort of clerical error. My optimism, as always, is cautious and guarded.
Most are waiting for some kind of statement taking away our 3 wins we currently have.
I heard Brian Cushing like to do it with girls in a really uncomfortable place and i am not talking about the back seat of a Volkswagen
Go Texans!
good read
He’s a funny dude ! Lmao , anyway…foster could be a problem, but I think we will manage quite well…so long as we force them to play catch up…
Tuck & Mario would be scary !
Regroup refocus..retool...
by Mr.Williams on Oct 8, 2010 11:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
he's funny....but professional....
doesn’t take shots, doesn’t start a riot….
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
I really like these Texans fans
They’ve been in the shadow of the Colts for such a long time, so one might assume their heads would be huge after an early victory over them and a great start…just not the case.
Plus any team that has a fanbase that hates the Cowboys with a burning passion automatically get’s 15 points.
Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 8, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
+100
unlike the Cowgirl fans they’re humble. The CowGirls are a joke. Every year they’re going to the SB.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
Having been on the recieving end of beatings for eight years, we have no comfort level with wins...we know how fickle this league is.
If you see a Texans fan talking smack about how we are going to own someone, it means you just found yourself someone who jumped on the bandwagon recently.
For us longtimers, we know that that the game isn’t over until time runs out. Playing Peyton Manning twice a year teaches you that with a quickness.
And yes, we hate the Cowgirls with the all consuming fire of a thousand suns.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 8, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
+ A Million
I hate the Cowpies
I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward
Interesting thoughts
I like the guy’s honesty although i admit, I was slightly annoyed with the question about Eli that he asked Ed.
Perfect example of the ignorance around the league about how good Eli actually is and what he has done. Like Ed said, what else must he do to “prove himself” to be considered a top QB in the league?
Speaking of stupid questions...
Some Houston reporters were on a conference call w/ Coughlin and Manning. Mannings questions: “hey Eli, tell me about your brother. Have you talked to your brother? What do you think you’re brother will do……”
Geez guys, really?
Rude much?
Houston media are tards
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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I'm sure that never gets old.
Love the Houston media….
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
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The Dreamshake
Can't. Look. Away. From. Picture...
As for Cushing, something tells me you guys will benefit from a few unnecessary roughness calls in the first quarter.
Playoffs? We’re just trying to have our second winning season and you’re talking about playoffs?! Playoffs?!
yea me too
I stared for awhile. She’s hot!!!!!!!!!
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
Tradition be damned! We need NY Giant girl and some of her friends to become BBV cheerleaders
I’ll chip in for the thongs….LOL
by giant fan since 57 on Oct 8, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Great read
I like the head on this guys shoulders. I’ll admit I’ve been sweeping the Texans under the rug the past few seasons, but win or lose this year is showing me that I need to pay attention to these guys.
However I want the Giants to uttely and completely destroy these guys. No because I want our defense to look good or for us to pick up the win. No, I want these guys to pay for giving us C.C. Brown.
agree on that
did he play that bad for the Texans before he came to “the city that never sleeps”, in which he quickly proceded to fall alseep on every play-action.
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 8, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
We didn't give you shit
You chose to take CC. God knows why, since he was absolutely horrible for us too.
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That's what I mean
You should have warned us! No one should have to suffer through C.C. Brown! I want the Lions to whoop us for the exact same reason! Someone has to warn the people!
There was no wailing or gnashing of teeth when he left town. We owe you for this one actually.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 8, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
cheerleader picture
Reminds me somehow of the ol’ fullback up the middle play.
Right stance, I think she is replacing Dhiel. What DE would run past her?
Tom Quinn Must Go
by UnknownJintsFan on Oct 8, 2010 11:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hope
the young lady has kneepads, don’t want turf burns, not to be confused with Turf Toe.
"No one played more for the Giants, while being coached less".
Ex-Giants coach, Steve Owens, talking about Mel Hein.
by Great Gatsby on Oct 8, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Screw you guys
for giving us CC Brown.
Couldn’t you have held him an extra year?
I keed. Sort of.
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
by Willgfass on Oct 8, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Re: CC
Can’t blame you for not believing me, though. You really have to see C.C. in action for your squad before you can truly appreciate it.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Hopefully
the Lions can NOW appreciate him Tim, LOL!
"No one played more for the Giants, while being coached less".
Ex-Giants coach, Steve Owens, talking about Mel Hein.
by Great Gatsby on Oct 8, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: Hopefully
Besides C.C., his family, and his agent, the only people happy that he’s playing in Detroit are Michigan liquor store owners. Having him in uniform for the local team is a boon for booze sales.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Lions fans get that wonderful feeling now
He somehow magiks [sic] himself to the top of the depth chart on every team he cons himself onto.
Actually that was a reasonable scouting report...
and he was fully as bad in coverage as it indicated. Though there was that one time he and the opposing receiver WERE in the same zipcode….at least briefly.
LMAO
Took me about 4 or 5 games before I realized C.C. was not gonna get any better. Speaking of appreciation CC’s agent is the man, how he keeps CC employed is amazing.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 8, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's a great eternal truth I will share with you for free.
If the Texans get rid of a safety, run, don’t walk, run away. Perhaps scream while you run.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
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The Dreamshake
by Xiane on Oct 8, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
REC'D ONE THOUSAND TIMES! If I could.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 8, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
Tim from Texas seems like a witty gent…“I think seeing an actual FS in a Texans uniform would be akin to seeing a unicorn gallop across a rainbow”.
"No one played more for the Giants, while being coached less".
Ex-Giants coach, Steve Owens, talking about Mel Hein.
maybe even a "double rainbow"
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 8, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It's two rainbows.
It’s pretty.
There is no subtext.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
free safety
We’ve been worse off. Phillips/Rolle are the first guys that can play free safety for us since Kinard in the 1980’s. We’ve been sticking strong safeties back there for too long.
refreshing
unlike the arrogant pompous ass last week.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
colts guy was the worst
they completly blew us out of the water so at least his team backed him up.. but that guy was a dik
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully Big Blue Douche
will be kicked out of SBNation soon enough.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/
yea.. its possible...
ive seen posts from ex-members of stampede blue that bash bigblueshoe.. supposidly hes not very good at what he does, or he posts rumors as facts… i dunno what he does but my one experience with him made me not like him one bit.
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Most of his readership
at least those active in the comment section have left the site entirely. He bans people willy nilly and deletes posts while basically trolling. Actually most of those users actually use the Texans sbnation sites fanposts to gather now.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
http://www.accessorizeyourvehicle.com/
The above is true.
BRB has somehow become a refugee camp for Colts fans. Seems unlikely, but there it is.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
sounds drunk with power
and he just runs a blog.. imagine if he was in any kind of position with real power? OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
There's no tough guy quite like an internet tough guy.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
He's an asshole that guy..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Ever since I read an article by him about
Mario Williams drinking the blood of QBs to sustain eternal life the Texans have been my 2nd favorite team. Even started a Texans franchise in Madden (07, that team is painful, went bankrupt at least three times).
Btw, benching AB this week in my fantasy team, Cushing and Bonecrusher scare me to no end.
Thanks For The Kind Words
Have to give credit where it’s due, though. The Super Mario/unicorn blood post was the work of TGC. He’s awesome.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
hmm... Props to TGC then.
Managed to remember half the details, at least, after 8 months. That says something.
Somehow, the Texans exchanged Cant Cover for Bonecrusher, while we switched Kenny Phillips for CC. Somehow we pissed off the waiver-wire gods…
Thanks for the kind words.
I didn’t write it – I found it scrawled in blood on a piece of paper in a dumpster at Reliant. It was right next to a bunch of empty hGC bottles.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 9, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
bench ahmad
Dont do it! he tore apart a bears and titans run defense that are both pretty damn stout… play him and know he’ll get you at least 80 and a TD… and a FL
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHA!! Bench Ahmad? Yeah, right. LOL!
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 8, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
thats what im sayin...
i wouldnt bench ahmad unless he was on the injury report as “not a fuggin chance he’ll play”
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Bradshaw just had the first 100 yard game I've seen in ages
against the Bears, who have Urlacher and Briggs as their LBs.
And you’re benching him against a guy who hasn’t played in 4 weeks, and a team that has had trouble stopping the run unlike the Bears?
Winning cures all...even stupid
And Cushing isn't on the juice anymore...
I want more JPP and I want it now!
Texans have been pretty good against the run this year.
It’s the secondary that’s scary (to us).
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
Trouble agaist the run?
wtf are you talking about?? The Texans are 2nd in the NFL at stopping the run! I’d bench him too they only give up 66 yards rushing a game! oh yeah and along side that guy who hasnt played in 4 weeks is DeMeco Ryans whos a beast!
didn't look at the stats
but that’s cute that they’re 2nd. Like the dude above said…130 yards on an equal caliber run D.
Doesn’t matter.
Winning cures all...even stupid
pollard is the real deal, he will be heard from, and might injure someone
but i like ELI. i understand why Tim asked the question, but i see what yall see this year. i have sunday ticket, and have watched every giants game. the WRs have not helped eli out with all the drops. therefore his stats suffer. but IMO he is a top 7 QB, and best in your division by a lot.
if yall had a TE that was a beast, it would make your O complete. maybe another RB, and health on the oline.
this should be an awesome game, any of yall making it down.
And a big F U to the cowbitc**s for ruining our awesome tailgating when we finally have nice weather. AAAHHHHHHH!!!!!! god i hate jerry jones.
We have the best writers in all of sb nation, we are spoiled fo sho!!
also look out for troy nolan
if eugene wilson, or ewwwww as I like to call him plays, we might be F ed
I'm worried about Boss
He’s such a huge target and fights for every yard, and injury prone because of it.
Is ewwwww that bad? I thought he was just injuryprone.
Eugene Wilson
Has been absolutely horrendous this year. If he starts/plays on Sunday, that’s a huge plus for the Giants.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Eugene Wilson
was at worst mediocre, but arguably much better then that in 08 and 09. This year he looks like he aged 10 years in the offseason. Maybe the injuries have finally taken their toll on his body.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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"god i hate jerry jones"
i think you’re going to do ok at BBV haha
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Texan and Cowboy hate = Houston/Dallas hate.
How would I sum it up for you…
Yankees v Red Sox? With Dallas in the NYY role?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
or..
Giants v Cowboys hate… that hate pretty strong. when i see someone i dont know wearing something cowboys.. i instantly dont like them.. honest truth haha
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, call it pre 2000s.
Dallas is the one with all the titles. Houston is the town that’s had its heart broken a million times. (Remember the Oilers?)
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
Please bro.
You know the Yankees are the Cowboys of baseball.
Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 8, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I do?
ESPN jocks the Red Sox and Cowporkers like it’ll bless them with the fountain of youth. And that’s all I’m basing this on.
Red Sox = Porkers of Cow
Winning cures all...even stupid
The Boston love is quite gross on ESPN.
But I’m really talking historically, and there, the comparison is apt.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
its all good free
i know you’re one of the die-hards, espn or no espn…when it comes to the number of bandwagoners the yanks and the boys are second to none.
Facts are facts.
Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 8, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a TE that is a beast
See his first catch of the game in Week 1 or 2 (someone help me out). Caught the ball and ran past/through 4 guys.
The Giants do not feature the TE in the passing game. The coaches admit this publicly. That is what holds Boss back from being better recognized. Giants fans love him.
hi texans fan here
Well for Tim 2 say we (Texans Fan’s) never knew if Arian Foster was going to be playing like this is dead wrong, Foster since his rookie year had faith in his self…and the last two games of the season last year showed what could come giving the start. i wasnt surprise at all…All Foster did, was just pick up from last year…Go Texans
Thanks 4 having me BBV
To expound on this
A lot of people where very excited about Foster when we signed him as a UFA. This is a guy who if he had left school a year earlier could have been a 2nd round pick, but got dinged because of how horrible the Vols where his last year at the school.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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I'd always heard mid-late 1st on The Arian Heresy.
Tennessee was a joke, and they decided to blame a lot of it on him.
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Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
Classy
These Texan fans are one classy group.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
and
they have one smokin hot cheerleader
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
seriously
i wanna fight and argue but they’re all such gentlemen haha… a cup of tea perhaps?
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
A cup of tea???
Them’s fightin’ words.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
a shot and a beer then
i think thats something most of us could agree on
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
A shot a beer and a blunt.
Now we’re having a good time.
Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 8, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That better have a foamy head on it..with 12% alcohol or I'll be pissed
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Don't know if they have Shiner where you live
But if they do, you should have some in honor of your team’s trip to the Lone Star State. Shiner, not Lone Star, is the true national beer of Texas.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 9, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i think its more a mutual hatred for the cowpies
that brings us fans of two different teams together… the enemy of my enemy is my friend :)
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Besides
How can you hate a team you rarely play, and that has an all-time winning percentage of something like .350?
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
www.battleredblog.com
by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 9, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Dang....
now I can’t think straight after seeing that cheerleader.
Looking forward to mingling with Texans fans this weekend, so far everyone of them I’ve talked to seems pretty cool.
And yeah, she’s hot.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Oct 8, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
they will be caught completely unawares when you guys pull out the bats and knives
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 8, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think its suffering that does it
keeps us from getting too big for our briches.
"Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." -Robert Heinlein
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End of the year poll
Ed, I think we should have a poll on who was the best guest from other blogs. i don’t need to read the others cause I think Tim would win. What a classy guy.
Great guest blogger
but they need to change the name. They could have came up with something other than Battle Red Blog.
nobody makes me bleed my own blood! - Eli Manning
how bout
the team from texas that isn’t a heinous blotch on the NFL?
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 8, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well "Battle Red" is technically the name of the Texans Red color.
And they have a “Battle Red” all red uniform that they where for Monday night games and the such.
Comes from there.
The only other options at the time the blog started would have been stuff like:
“Peyton Plays in our Stadium Twice a Year Blog”
or
“Surrender City Blog”
See what I mean?
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 8, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a question that most Texans fans have not asked.
Should we fear the linebackers? I know the d-line is a force and that the secondary is put together with duct tape and hope.
For example we have ryans, cushing, and cost effective diles.
who are your starters and can they lay the wood? or are they all about coverage?
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 8, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
Secondary put together with duct tape and hope?
Not sure where you got that from but our secondary has been great so far (minus the Colts game like the rest of the team), and is one of our strengths. Webster and thomas are solid CB’s and Ross is ok as a nickel corner, and we have 3 really strong safeties with Kenny Phillips, Antrel rolle and Deion Grant.
To answer your questions about our linebackers, they have been a pleasant surprise so far and have actually played pretty well, especially MLB Goff.
i thought that ross was the starter and that phillips had been injured. i watched the monday night game and ....
didn’t recognize the other guys. my fault.
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Oct 8, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
he must be thinking of 2009
when we were sans Phillips, Rolle, Grant, and Ross… with CC, Aaron rouse, and michael Johnosn….. i just threw up in my mouth a little… thank GOD its 2010
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Webster, Terrell Thomas, Aaron Ross, Kenny Phillips, Antrel Rolle
our secondary is solid and Webster is returning to his All-Pro 2008 form. They aren’t held together by duct tape all.
As for the LBs…they do their jobs. Goff has been steadily improving and Boley seems to have his nose around the ball a lot. But neither are Cushing or Ryans and the Giants really don’t care.
Also of note is JPP, Kiwaunuka and sometimes Tuck all line up as LBs…and they do it well, especially Kiwi.
Winning cures all...even stupid
according to PFF
Webster was thrown at 3 times last weekend….and gave up 1 catch for 2 yards.
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
Back to the original question
Giants’ linebackers are a concern. Goff shows promise at MLB, but he is not experienced. Has played well in coverage. We are still waiting for Boley to show his talent at WLB. How he plays is anyone’s guess. He’s supposed to be fast and good in coverage. Bulluck you guys should know well from Tennessee. He is slightly banged up, not sure if he is playing. We have him starting at SLB because no one else could win the job. If he’s out, it’s Sintim, a converted 3-4 OLB. But we do no not play the SLB a lot, we count on the front 4 to beat the run and often have extra secondary.
Our CBs are better than most people know. Webster is making $8 mil/yr and there are few here who would argue that. Phillips, hopefully he plays, is our best tackler and also makes plays on the ball. Rolle is solid at FS.
Not world beaters
But not terrible. They do what they have to do, not much more not much less.
Bulluck is out unfortunately (As texans fans you guys probably know all about him) which puts up an unproven Sintim as starter.
They’re probably the weakest point on the defense, but nowhere near as weak comparatively as your safeties are.
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
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-Michael Strahan
Nolan replacing wilson
makes our safeties a lot better looking.
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our LB's
are compitent, but not great. Once or twice a game one of the 3 starters makes a great play but for the most part they just sort of fill out the job requirements, sign their timesheet and head home.
Goff has shown promise, Boley is fast and pretty good at being in the right location, and depending on the look (we use our DE in the Sam position alot) Bulluck can still play his role well.
I have yet to see anyone of the 3 control the flow of a game yet.
I got a feeling...
…that Goff or Sintim is gonna blow this Foster kid up.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Oct 8, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm hoping it's Sintim
I’ve been calling Sintim my 2010 Giants breakout player and he’s making me look bad.
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
I have a lot of love for Sintim
I think he’s still got talent. Just putting it together.
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lol +2
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o.. wait…
o.. wait…at least no more Jerry and Omar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :):):)
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear Kevin Killdrive:
Throw the ball a lot. Avoid Cushing. Thank you.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
I'd rather have Gilbride get the plays in quickly then have him throwing the ball a lot
that’s what Eli’s for.
Winning cures all...even stupid
yea no kiddin
its like he’s standing there looking at plays going uhhhhhhhhhhh, uhhhhhhhhhh, uhhhhhhhhh this one!…. after 25 seconds have passed leaving eli and co. 5 seconds to get set and snap the ball
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
No! Do not speak his name!
Arg!!!!
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No huddle...
….got mix up the pace of the game.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Oct 8, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yesssssss
eli does so good in the no huddle too… if he gets in a rythem (spelling? christ im stupid) hes unstoppable… everytime they go no huddle it works out… Gilbride cant call plays fast enough tho and I dont know if Eli is at the point where he can call his own plays for an enitre drive
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I would not play it that way....
1) Cushing has not played a game yet. The Giants should target him and determine how much ring rust he has on him.
2) Cushing is a pursuit player and a blitzer. They are better off going at him than away from him.
3) Why try to get into track meet with the Texans, they can keep up I assure you. We should try to pound their inside tackles, they are soft there. If we do that and play good D we should be able to control the game with play action.
We're made to beat the Colts
Not to really beat anybody else. Our DTs are light and movable. That’s where I’d go.
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I don't know how I didn't see dubs comment earlier
cause yeah, thats a heavy dose of correct.
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For a second I thought you were talking about the Giants.
…cause that didn’t work so good.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
+1000
We should definitly go at Cushing make him prove he is in game shape. We got to establish the run on these guys.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 8, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Cushing sheds tackles better than anyone on the team, imo.
If you run at him you’re going to find yourself in a lot of third-and-longs. Also, I don’t think he’s rusty. The guy was hurt for much of last year and hardly practiced, yet still tore it up. I’m not too worried about the rust factor.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 9, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yesterday I thought aloud if it were possible that Whimper could be signed
due to the fact that Boothe maybe is not progression as hoped.
well you can throw that theory out the window….RV says Boothe is on track and ready to return.
we were all guess who may get waived if Whimper comes back, but who gets waived if Boothe comes back and Whimper?
You gotta think it’s on Olineman. Either Beatty or O’hara. Can’t see them IR’ing either one of them to be honest but who else coudl it be???
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"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
maybe IR ohara
if hes not making any healing progress… i havnt heard anything positive on that since the day we first found out about it
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess if it's just one guy returning maybe it can be someone else..
maybe a hedgecock or something.
but if it’s both (Boothe and Whimper) than it’s got to be at least 1 Olineman IMO.
But who knows if Whimper is really coming back or not….MG and TC seem to think he is…..
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
I'd normally say something nasty about Whimper here
But I used to do that about Koets and he showed me up.
he def did
and thank God he did.. Koets is ok in my book
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont like that were relying on Guy Whipmer to make a difference on our o-line
hasnt he done nothing but stink his whole career? Why not give Mitch petreus a go at it?
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what I'm saying
but I think TC’s exact quote was “I’m sure he’ll sign at some point” or something along those lines….
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
positions
Whimper is supposed to be a tackle, Petrus a guard. I think they’ve also practiced Whimper inside.
Now, if you want to get inventive, Petrus used to be a fullback in college. Might be nice to see him as the lead blocker, especially in goal line situations.
wow great idea
if he can get to a hole and clear it out before ahmad is running up his back then i say get him in the backfeild
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Why the Whimper stuff?
The guy isn’t even on the roster. He worked out one day. If the Giants sign him eventually it’s just for depth. Would you rather sign some other street free agent who would know zilch about the playbook.
C’mon, gang. There are a lot more important things to worry about than whether injuries force the Giants to sign Guy Whimper.
because I brought it up yesterday...
it’s not so much about Whimper at all….I asked because I thought it may be related to Boothe’s progress….which it’s not.
I actually think Plaxico agrees with you….
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
actually think Plaxico agrees with you
i do… i was wondering where all the Whimper stuff was coming from and it got me nervous
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, Ed shoulda directed that comment to me....not you.
you were just answering me
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"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
haha yea i figured
i was like wtf Ed i didnt start the Whimper stuff haha
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
there was a positive report
on O’Hara. The report said he sought a 2nd opinion and his injury was misdiagnosed. It further said O’Hara has responded well to his new treatment.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
but you missed
After that he tried to run and it still bothered him. But I think it looks more likely to heal soon.
This would be a mistake Plax..They finally are treating him for the real problem he has..
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ok yea i remember seeing that story
about the mis-diagnosis… im not wrong very often (sarc) but in this case im happy i am
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Boothe said that he expects to be back
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
The Texans
My brother-in-law (big Giants fan) was on business last year in Houston and saw a Texans game. He told me how nice the people were and how much fun the game was. Between his story and this article, I kind of hate to root against the Texans this weekend. I mean, I will, I am a Giants fan, but the Texans (and their cheerleaders) seem like they’re pretty good folk.
after this weekend
I will definitely root for the Texans moving forward.
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I used to root for the Oilers as a 2nd team
Loved the run-and-shoot with Moon, Hill, Givens, and company. Fun games to watch.
Completely agree...
Givens was one of my favorite WRs growing up. Don’t forget about Lorenzo White either. I agree, FrankB, I will root for the Texans going forward, meaning after Sunday and unless they face the Giants in the SB!
That Oilers game against the Dolphins was one of the best games in the history of the league.
Earl Campbell was the hardest hitting back ever! Loved Bum too. You had to hand it to all those love ya blue fans as well. Talk about home field advantage!
by giant fan since 57 on Oct 8, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll never be completely over 1992.
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plus
Reliant Stadium is a beautiful stadium! Got a chance to go there a cpl years ago for a college game, and it was really a good atmosphere. Good city too, the mall there puts a lot of malls to shame! It looked like 5th Ave indoors.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
by wilddre22 on Oct 8, 2010 5:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I quite like our stadium too, thank you.
Houston invented that sort of thing – air conditioned outdoor sports, air conditioned giant shopping malls, air conditioned forests, and all that. The Astrodome is right next to Reliant and it looks tiny. Which makes me sad.
Of course once we built a new stadium Jerrah simply HAD to have one too. One where the best thing about it is…wait for it…watching the game on TeeVee! In. A. Stadium.
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That is broadly true of Texas in general. This is a laid back place and people are generally hospitable and looking to have a good time.
The caveat to that of course is the plague-stricken, festering, earth-wound of godless, douchenozzles known as Dallas.
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What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 8, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats ok
cause Dallas is actually in South Oklahoma.
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That's true. I always forget about that.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 8, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I refer to it as Occupied North Texas (that includes the place known as Oklahoma)
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Ed, I like that guy..He was honest and forthright..
I have been to Texas long enough to know they are a great bunch of folks..You don’t meet nicer folks than they are..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Texas
I’m from Nebraska, home of some really great people, and even though we currently have some disagreements regarding college football, I can say that I have never met a Texan that was not curteous and respectful.
No you truly won't ever bump into a better bunch..
We are flying out there in a couple of weeks to see the game..and they and us will have a blast they don’t give a shit who you root for..they party with fellow football fans..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Football is the National Religion of the Great Republic of Texas. Why would fight against fellow converts?
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by TexansForever on Oct 8, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You got that right, bud...Can't wait to get out there for a blast..
Four days of fun..football game, no kids..shit it is like dying and going to heaven…I might schedule a repeat of my wedding vows to the little Missus: " Again, baby..I vow to always drink beer everyday we’re together, forever..I will always protect you as long as I’m not on the boat fishing..I’ll always go shopping with you as long as there is a bench I can sit on and be bored…Keep your ‘Honey-do’ list to a minimum..It’s quality not quantity..Your my sweetheart..“I Do”
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BREAKING NEWS!!!!!
Over on BRB they just posted that Mario Williams injured his groin at practice, listed as questionable for Sunday. Jacoby Jones did not practice today either.
A hurt Williams, Johnson, and Jones is huge. Those are the three guys most likely to burn us.
take this to the bank:
Mario Williams and Andre Johnson will play and play well.
Cushing will play as much as the coaches let him and play well.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 8, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Cushing will play the whole game
dude is in shape
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he should be
all of those roids he has been taking should have him in tip top shape
nobody makes me bleed my own blood! - Eli Manning
Hell of a thing..taking roids and sacrificing your dick...
“Hey honey I’m home..say hi to my Guy Whimper”…
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
If he was on roids
he was doing it right. The hCG he tested positive for helps avoid all that ball damage.
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Whatever..Your starting to piss me off..talk to someone else..
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I live in NY but I'm right next to the Jersey border
It was common knowledge that Cushing was taking PEDs in high school. Locally, everyone knew why he looked so big at USC.
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
I don't or try to refrain from predictions..because I've been a Giants fan for so long..but
But I don’t see us losing this game…man for man we’re the better team..hands down..If they play the game right they’ll win..The only way the Texans beat us is because of stupid mistakes..Fumbles, left-handed throws from our right-handed QB..etc…They have no one on their roster that matches up against ours..These are games we need to win..they’ll only get tougher..We’re tied for first thanks to the Skins..Now it is time to take over.
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Schuab and Eli – Push
Recievers – Texans
RBs – Push?
OLine – Texans considering the state of your line injury wise and playing out of position. Losing brown is less of a blow then you probably think.
TE – Texans
DE – Push
DT – Giants
LB – Texans
Secondary – Giants
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Heh
If we were playing the Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired, they’d have the secondary advantage.
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Heh
theres a reason I didn’t even bother listing safeties and corners separately.
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Ahh I'm heading to Dallas in a couple of weeks let's hook up at Darryls for dinner..It's on me..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Well..I don't really see that to be honest..
Shaub vs Eli?..Close but no cigar..
Receivers – Giants
RBs? – yes a push
TE? – a push
O-line? – Giants
D-line? – Giants
Secondary? – Giants
LBs? – A push
Special teams? – Texans
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
You way overvalue your own players
Sorry our LBs are better then yours, and Schuab has been statistically better then Eli in pretty much every way for a good 2 to 3 years. Kevin Walter is a phenominal reciever and JJ is also very dangerous. At best its a push, but AJ sways it in our favor. TE? Sorry OD if 100 percent is better then any TE you have, and Dreesen is almost as good. We then have more depth behind those two.
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Watch out for our three headed monster of TEs...
…Boss, Bear, Beckum….BAM BAM BAM! Gillbride shows his genius this week, I hope.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Oct 8, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Our TEs are better than everyone thinks, we just infrequently use them in the passing game. Except for in the end zone. Both teams WRs are underrated – if you want to see an impressive display, try to find clips of Nicks’ TDs last year – I’d say 2/3 of them were 50+ yards and his YAC greatly exceeded the yards through the air.
Your LBs are WAY better than ours. We were watching Ryans real closely last offseason.
You guys have good WRs
No doubt. You just don’t have the #1 receiver in the game :-p. Our TE depth is simply ridiculous, but maybe yours are better then I thought.
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I eagerly await the Texans 4 TE formation.
I honestly think it would work, too.
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Well Bud..We all overate our players..It is part of being a fan...
The team that plays best is going to win..If the Giants lose, I’ll be disappointed..If the Texans lose you’ll be disappointed..But will that ruin our Tuesday? (I reserve Mondays for mourning)..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
No Flynn..It just starts the week off better..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
where's the fun in that?
I’m all for keeping a level head and all but, ain’t nothing wrong with enjoying the good moments
Well only if you win...otherwise it sucks..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Eli vs Schaub
Yes that’s accurate, but once again, the statistics don’t tell the whole truth. :)
Schaub may have passed for 700 yds more than Eli in 2009, but all those extra yards only netted an addtional 2 touchdowns. Schuab 29 to Eli 27. And surprisingly, Schaub actually had 1 more INT than Eli last year. 15 for Scaub and 14 for Eli.
So I would have to say they are pretty much on par with each other, and neither one quite outshines the other.
Which is why
I called it a push
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Stat's mean nothing what's Schwab won?
I’d give linebackers to the Texans, but our D-Line is better and our secondary is better.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 8, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
WRs is not as much in your favor
if at all. AJ is clearly the best, but if he’s not 100% the Giants have 3 excellent WRs so even if AJ was 100% the Giants may have you beat in terms of depth. RBs…I dunno what to make of Arian Foster, but he’s been incredible thus far, he’s probably in the Texans favor.
OL..the Giants also are not as bad as you’d think. They played well against a very equal caliber DL to the Texans against Chicago.
DE…sorry, Mario Williams really is equal caliber to Justin Tuck. But the rest of our DEs..Kiwi, JPP, Osi..I bet Dave Tollefson would get more snaps in Houston. We got a ton.
But I agree everywhere else. You have 2 excellent LBs. I’m surprised at your secondary tho I remember it being said they weren’t really much above average with Dunta Robinson there.
Winning cures all...even stupid
if at all. AJ is clearly the best, but if he’s not 100% the Giants have 3 excellent WRs so even if AJ was 100% the Giants may have you beat in terms of depth. RBs…I dunno what to make of Arian Foster, but he’s been incredible thus far, he’s probably in the Texans favor.
Kevin Walter and Jacoby Jones say what up.
OL..the Giants also are not as bad as you’d think. They played well against a very equal caliber DL to the Texans against Chicago.
Not bad, but injured or playing out of position.
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Which OL is playing out of position?
Tell Mr. Walter I said hi and that’s he’s not as good as any of the Giants WRs.
Tell Mr. Jacoby the same thing and that he’s injured.
Winning cures all...even stupid
Your
If Koets can’t play the Giants could have three players on the line at unfamiliar positions Sunday — Rich Seubert at center, David Diehl at left guard and Shawn Andrews at left tackle.
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Also keep in mind
our offense threw for 4700 yards last year, and the line is easily better this year then it was last year(it can passblock now!).
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I have that in mind
right next to the 11 sacks + hits against the Raiders last week.
Winning cures all...even stupid
Look at how many sacks the Redskins had in week 2
now look how many yards Schaub threw for.
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We shall see.
Schaub had the most yards in the NFL last year. No one seems to know this. And Arian Foster is the #1 RB by a pretty wide margin. Not to take anything away from the Giants, but the Texans are probably the best balanced offense in the NFL.
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Read my post above
Schaub may have passed for the most yardage, but it didn’t net him the most touchdowns. And that’s what it all boils down to right? :)
It depends.
I’ll leave it at that. Same with yardage, by the way.
I expect Schaub to be worse in yards and TDs, but the offense as a whole to be much better.
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he might have thrown for the most yards
but the giants actually scored more points than your team last year
by mclaren_is_the_best on Oct 8, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Our secondary
Is also not the ’skins or raiders secondary
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
The raiders have a good secondary
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Asomugha when he's actually thrown at gives up big plays
but its rare he’s thrown at.
Other then that…you’re joking right?
Winning cures all...even stupid
nope
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Which doesn't really matter
we’ve thrown on pretty much anyone we want to over the last 2+ years.
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Manning threw for 4000+ last year
And we’re a running team.
O'hara hasn't played in 2 weeks
and the OL as a whole has actually gotten better with Koets at C.
If Koets can’t go they may be in trouble, but it doesn’t look like that’s gonna happen.
Winning cures all...even stupid
DE…sorry, Mario Williams really is equal caliber to Justin Tuck. But the rest of our DEs..Kiwi, JPP, Osi..I bet Dave Tollefson would get more snaps in Houston. We got a ton.
Antonio Smith is also rather good. Depth wise you have us beat. So yeah thats probably in your favor.
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Hey Bud you have a good team..It'll be a good game..and I offered to buy you dinner in a couple of weeks..
Chill out..that Dinner includes your wife and kids..Me and the Cowboy fan wife will meet you and have dinner..We can bullshit about the game..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
chill out?
I thought we where having a friendly discussion about the strengths and weaknesses of our teams relative to each other.
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I absolutely meant no offense..of course this is a freindly exchange..and you make very valid points
So chill out..LOL!!!!!
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
bobbi's our community pitbull
watch out haha
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha!!..Yep just warming up the engines,, Plax..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
The combination of Mario Williams and Antonio Smith ranks 2nd in the league for sacks as a DE duo.....just saying.
Tuck and Umenyiora rank half a sack behind them.
Not that it means anything, but the Texans pass rush is no joke either.
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What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 8, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
not saying anyones pass rush is better or worse
But if we’re speaking technically, osi is the third de on our depth chart…kiwi has 3 sacks and he missed the festival against the bears last Sunday with a neck injury. Our depth is probably where most would feel this argument is won, especially with the addition of first round pick JPP who has looked impressive thus far in limited action.
Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 8, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
kkiwi has 4 sacks*
Everyone should drink more wine, its antioxidants and gets you silly
Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 8, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep they are good..
The Giants o-line will be busy..but we’ll have Bear Pascoe helping out at fullback..His eyebrows are enough to scare somebody..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Vonta Leach doesn't want to hear none of this mumbo jumbo
and you dont want to make the coke machine angry.
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How many quarters does it take? to get a coke?
There is always an asshole that shows up every fucking week..and you qualify…Now Son I was nice to you..but your an asshole..Make you feel happy?..Your analysis of your team is evidence of your fucking stupidity..What are you going to throw at us? Fucking Coke Machines?..You dumb-ass..Get a fucking grip..I know being an idiot must be something that is hard to take but you need to deal with it..Congratulations..your this weeks asshole…asshole.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
You made a joke, he made one too.
That’s a weird reaction.
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Huh?
The Human Coke Machine is Vonta Leach’s nickname. Nolander was making a joke about it (incidentally, Leach is an excellent fullback). There was absolutely nothing in his post that should cause you to react like that.
This has been a really friendly back-and-forth between two sets of fans that don’t interact very often. No way did Nolander mean (or even write) anything offensive.
I'll eliminate you like I eliminate gluten from my diet.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 9, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Where have I been an asshole?
do tell me? You seem a bit sensitive about your team. Me thinking we have good players makes me an asshole? You really need to get over yourself.
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I gotta disagree on a few
QBs: You may call it homerism, but Eli’s the better QB
Receivers: If you didn’t have Johnson, the Giants would be far away better.
With him I gotta give it to you guys
RBs: Gotta go with your guys. For now anyways he’s better
OLine: same as you
TE: Same
DE: Besides Mario, who do you have? Mario isn’t so much better than Tuck (if at all) to give it a push.
DT: agreed
LB: Definitely agreed
Secondary: Agreed
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Seriously??
I’m a homer Texan’s fan and even I think they have the better WRs. One on one, okay, Andre is one of the best in the league, but all of the teams WR?? Out of Hakeem, Steve, and Mario, any of them could put up 100yds a week. On our team, AJ and MAYBE Kevin Walter could be thrown in there but I don’t think so because he is so inconsistent (and yes I know he has had a couple big games this year).
TE? Sorry, OD has done nothing this year and may never be his former self ever again after an injury like that. I do like the upside of Dressen and look forward to see what he’s got. I would say Push for TE’s only because Kevin Boss isn’t used like the TEs in our offense so it’s hard to tell.
FWIW
Football Outsiders ranks Walter higher than than anyone on either team.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 9, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
player matchups
are always fun… but ya nailed it on the head “stupid mistakes”
Matchups never account for those moments, and unfortunately we all know the effect they have on ball games. Gotta keep our heads on straight this week if we want a chance at winning
I seen that.
As a Giants fan I’ll expect all 3 to be 100%.
Although if I was a Texans fan I’d be looking at it as our stud DE has an ouchie in the man region, our All-Pro WR may not be 100% (but he’s still better then most WRs…) and our field stretching WR (think HAM) may not be able to stretch the field.
Overall I’d expect the Giants to load up on the run and see if the Texans banged up WRs can beat them at their given health.
As for Mario Williams…he’s a lot like Julius Peppers (tho I’m not sure anyone’s at Peppers level at this point in the season), and the Giants did a relatively good job on him. If Williams is not gonna be 100% (and he won’t..groins don’t heal quick ever) that’s a big blow to their D.
Winning cures all...even stupid
Williams is fine
everyone was overreacting to the groin thing. AJ hurt is still better then any of your recievers, and kevin walter is still better then you think.
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I know who Kevin Walter is
and he’s not better then anything the Giants have. He’s taller…that’s about it. And that’s not a knock, the Giants have 3 very good WRs.
We’ll see about AJ and Mario. I doubt it.
Winning cures all...even stupid
I'm also not knocking your recievers
Walter is simply better then most people think, combined with AJ they are dynomite.
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Walter? Uh No
I had him on my fantasy team last year and watched the texans a bunch. He was awful
He has looked much more like the Walter
of 08 this year. We just didn’t really target him last year to start, mostly because we where force feeding the ball to OD.
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All will play, but I disagree on strategy
Foster beat up on Indy and Oakland. Something like 28th and 32nd in run defense. He is a good running back, but the Giants have a good run defense. I think it unlikely that he will run for 200 yards. Look what we did to Chris Johnson. 3 yards a carry before garbage time.
AJ and MW will beat us, even with injuries. Jones may be slower, but slower is a 4.4. I think we need to protect against the deep ball/big play. Expect a pass rush like Peppers gave us, but focus on keeping everyone else out. Help McKenzie. Use play-calling like bootlegs to keep the pass rush away. That’s what the Jets did (and overdid) last week.
You knock us for running well against bad run defenses
then extol stopping a guy who has had a bad year running the ball so far?
Oh god, if you guys bootleg a lot too… Its going to be all bootlegs all the time lol.
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heh
Johnson had his best game this year against your team.
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watch the game
As I said, he had 3 yds a carry until garbage time. Don’t know why he was still on the field. Had ~30 yards on one run.
We rarely bootleg
That would be too wild for us. The coaching staff has something against Eli running more than 10 steps from center. Until recently, he was not even allowed to QB sneak.
That is huge
If either Williams or Johnson is out that’s a huge break for us.
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Team and Mario are reporting that the injury is "nothing" and that Mario is "fine" for Sunday.
Of course could be a total smokescreen so who knows.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 8, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Want some laughs
Go over to the Houston blog and read a fanpost, "This is the title of a typical incendiary blog post ".
Read that before.
Hillarious!
Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 8, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn!! If you don't laugh at that something is wrong wiith you!haha
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
lot in common
We all hate Jerry Jones, we’ve all been victim to CC Brown’s incompetence. We all got a super Mario on our team…
I scared I might get confused as to which team is mine this weekend
We have a cow on our hat.
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well they're blue, white and red
and we’re….. blue, white, and red
by Plaxico Burress on Oct 8, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
If you catch yourself thinking
Wait, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen this team before, are they in the NFL?
That’ll be the Texans.
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You missed a big one
David Carr.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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go to your room.
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Played what well? Golf?
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The Enemy of My Enemy is my friend.....
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
No the enemy of your enemy is your real enemy..Remember that..
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Good Guy
I like the Texans fans much better than Cowgirl fans. This dude is humble but confident in his team. Looking forward to the game.
Go G-Men!!!
The Texans have a very dangerous team
Hopefully the Gmen show up and play with swagger on defense. If the defense shows up to play this will be a very good football game. The Texans can and will be exposed by their weak secondary. Steve “I move chains” Smith, Hakeem “the Dream” Nicks and Super Mario will carve up that secondary. Our Dbacks are much better than last year and are playing well as a unit. We can contain AJ, Walter and Jones. The Giants will focus on stopping Arian Foster. The Dline has some swagger back, time to set up camp in the Texans backfield.
You can't expose our secondary
its suck was never hidden.
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Exposing our secondary? ya......
That would be like exposing that Cowboys fans suck……ya we knew that.
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What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 8, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I love it when things start to heat up a little..
Its going to be a good game..Neither we or the Texans got our players from Walmart..It boils down to coaches and game planning ultimately..Who studied better..The Giants ‘D’ when Fewell turns it loose is formidable and ferocious..Our special teams stink..I wouldn’t field that outfit for a game of croquet..and forget volleyball, our punter would net the ball every time..It’ll come down to Fewell letting the dogs loose..If he does Shaub will be like Cutler..listening to Nursery Rhymes read to him by his Grandma..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Can we just play the game already?
Damnit! Instead of 13 games on Sunday plus a Monday nighter, let’s have one every night of the week and then 4 on saturday and 5 on sunday.
I HATE waiting for Sunday.
Imagine how much more the fans would be into the game if they watched a game every night. People would SEE other teams and really understand the state of the league.
Of course I could live on football and water, so I am a bit biased. This idea would never actualy take off.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 9, 2010 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah waiting is a pain..I'm with you we wait all year for football..then wait some more..
I even had a long wait this morning..waiting for fish to bite..they didn’t..I just got back..there ain’t a damn thing I do that does not require ‘waiting’..I think wives invented waiting..They ain’t ever ready on time..wait wait wait..for everything..Hate waiting…One thing’s for sure..if you wait around long enough you wind up in a pine box..and they even make you wait for that fucking thing.
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Well..the boat is loaded up and ready..In three hours I'll be cruising on the water...
Set anchor..cast out six lines and dose off, waiting for that “zing”…I went from flying a plane to floating in a boat..We’re heading to Dallas in a couple of weeks.my wife knows I’m afraid of flying in a plane I ain’t flying….but we’ll get there..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I hate planes. HATE planes. When I wa in the Army, the Air Force guys would always show us the broken shit on the planes when we deployed.....jackoffs.
Ironically, I have to travel all over the damn world for my civilian job as well……ya…..lucky me…..
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 9, 2010 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I was a fighter pilot..but yeah those transport planes suck..We fondly refer to transport fliers as Greyhound Bus drivers..
Flying F-16s and F117As were less dangerous because the crew you had took great pride in maintaining them..We were like brothers..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Well..I am heading for a nap then heading out in the boat..
There are no ‘trolls’ on the Texans to defend..so, I’m going fishing..See y’all in the morning….
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Is Cushing out of shape??
I’ll let you be the judge. Check the date. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlRVG_j-z1E
there's no question he's "in shape".
but there’s a difference. Being in NFL game shape…there’s a reason why the first week or so of the regular season are so sloppy, its cuz guys aren’t used to playing an NFL game for even 3 quarters let alone 4.
Cushing will probably not be out there as much as he usually is since he’s going against (and playing with) guys who’ve played at leas 3-4 NFL games this season already.
Winning cures all...even stupid
Cushing hasnt played in quite a bit man
Sure he’s in shape, but after the grueling pace of the game wears on he will wear down.
If he can get touches, he's dangerous
He’s elusive, able to make something out of nothing. He’s a deep threat who I’d like to see in play action. The problem is that he’s the 3rd WR on the team so his opportunities are limited.
But with the struggles of the Houston secondary, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a good amount of 3-WR sets tomorrow.
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
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