New York Giants Afternoon Notes: On KP, Kiwi and Ahmad
by Ed Valentine on Oct 6, 2010 4:28 PM EDT
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PrintA few afternoon New York Giants notes for you.
- Coach Tom Coughlin says hold those alarm bells on Kenny Phillips.
"We started to actually do a little bit less with him on Wednesdays. We started that last week. He calls it tired and sore. It's not - according to the training room - it has nothing to do with the past surgery or anything of that nature. We're just trying to maintain it." - Coughlin also said Wednesday that the team will not wait indefinitely for Mathias Kiwanuka's neck injury to subside.
Really all we're doing is getting information from the doctors - that's all. Time frame - I think that there will be a time frame if it's a wait deal and then we'll have to - once that time frame is met, then a decision would have to be made. - Ahmad Bradshaw says he "just has to buy into the high and tight" after losing three fumbles in four games.
"I’ve just got to buy into the "high and tight." It wasn't high and tight when I fumbled the other night, and this is something I’ve just got to work on. I usually have it that way. I just got lackadaisical." - Houston coach Gary Kubiak, obviously, is well aware of the Giants 10-sack effort Sunday night against Chicago.
"We have our work cut out for us. Obviously, it was special up front with the things they do and with the people they do it with. In this league, everything starts with trying to find a way to keep your quarterback upright," Kubiak said. "That performance last week was one for the ages, it was unbelievable. We're going to have to hunker down and find a way to keep our quarterback upright the best way we can and go from there. It definitely starts with protecting the quarterback."
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Ahmad
Needs to listen to the coaching staff about the proper way of holding the ball when you run.
Just ask Tiki, he’ll vouch for TC!
fans and media
overreact with the injury report. The report was originally created not to give any gamblers an advantage.
Also, Bill B makes a mockery of the report every week of every season. Brady was on the list every week for 6-8 years. Then when he was really hurt in 2008 he was absent from the list.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
I should say
the report was released to the media so gamblers wouldn’t have an advantage.
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
yup...all about gambling
I remember someone commenting about how the internet and technology of the time is now allowing us to get instant news from the team and that isn’t always the best thing. 15 years ago we wouldn’t even have heard about 90% of these injuries.
"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)
Based on his comment, Ahmad knows what he has to do.
I don’t think that any more instruction is needed. It’s just a matter of applying what he knows.
If past history shows us anything
It’s that these things are easier said than done.
I’m sure he went into last game thinking “High and tight tongiht Ahmad, you were a little lackadaisical with the ball last week anagainst Tennessee.” And yet here we are again…maybe a little time “high and tight” on the tredmill will do him some good…worked wonders for Tiki.
Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 6, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
hopefully kubiak is actually worried
that’ll get him working on protection schemes all week, and not working on ways to take advatage of the rest of the D.
i don't know if thats true or not
but I will tell u while playing HS Ball, I did that. I fumbled on my first carry in the 1st game. Then decided I was never gonna do it again so I carried the ball everywhere. I even slept with it. and didn’t fumble again in 4 years, so that tactic works. I think any player with a “fumbling” problem will benefit from having the rock in his hands and getting used to holding onto it.
I heard the guys on the NFL channel talk about a few weeks ago as if it were fact.
Not that that makes it so, but they acted as if it were true.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU
by TexansForever on Oct 6, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't believe ANYTHING you hear...
if it comes out of Jamie Dukes’ mouth…that guy is a waste of a lap band.
"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)
Ahmad said he did it to punish himself
and i did see video of practice with him walking with the ball, high and tight.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I wonder if people are randomly tryin' to strip him?
Isin’t that the point??? Something tells me he was probably avoiding Jacobs today….lol. JPP as well…but that’s on GP
"Things have to change" - Antrel Rolle
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
of all people
Tom C tried to smack it out! with his old ass arms! hehehehe
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I believe that is true..He was reported to have to carry the ball evreywhere..Meetings, cafeteria..everywhere..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Is A. Johnson going to play this weekend?
if he’s out than Fewell can really focus on the running game.
At the same time I’m oddly looking forward to seeing Cweb match up with him….
"Things have to change" - Antrel Rolle
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
I heard that he is expected to play
"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)
Quick Question:
If we had to replace Jerry Reese, would you guys be against Bill Parcells being our GM?
If we do have a bad season this year, I think you all know that I’d rather see Reese go instead of Coughlin. This question came to mind, because I was reading what Bill Parcells had to say about Tom Coughlin and he also said something that leads to the notion, that he would like to work again. Back in 07 he wanted the Giants’ GM job, but the Giants were confident in Jerry Reese.
I don’t have an opinion on this because I really do not pay any attention to what Parcells does, but I do know he built the Cowboys and the Dolphins.
We’re firing Reese now?
Reese isn’t going anywhere, and why should he? If this team fails, it will fall on the coach, I see absolutely no reason to fire the GM.
Parcells is 70, and semi-retired in Florida, I don’t see him being anybody’s GM anymore, and why are we having this conversation?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Oct 6, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you...
I’m pessimistic…but wow
"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)
I'd prefer Reese over Parcells
I can’t think of many GM’s I’d want over Reese tbh
by mclaren_is_the_best on Oct 6, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
that's not the question...
all I’m asking is,.. if Parcells was named our GM today, would you oppose it?
No one is asking who’s better and who isn’t.
Well to want Parcells to be our GM
You would have to think that he can do a better job than Reese. I don’t think he can do that.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Oct 6, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll prefer to keep Reese... love Parcells
But he never seems to finish what he starts anymore…He says he wants to stay off the couch, but it seems only for awhile..I’ll keep Reese, sorry Bill love ya..mean it..I’ll buy you some donuts bud..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I would welcome it
"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells
No one said we was...
Why can’t people just answer the question? sigh. Was we firing Tom Coughlin when Bill Cowher and every other possible HC candidate name was brought up?
I love Parcells. Who could complain if he were named GM.
However if for some reason Bill was named GM we would have to immedietly start looking for his replacement because Bill likes to move every couple of years. It’s in his blood I think…..
by giant fan since 57 on Oct 6, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally I would not want Parcells
They guy leaves every team in a lurch. Took me 10 years to get over him quiting on us right before the draft and we get Ray Handly. Parcells was a great coach and I love him but he will not stay and get the job done so no thank you.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 6, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel you jada...
I wouldn’t mind at all if Bill came back as GM. I think he has a good eye for identifying weaknesses and bringing in the right talent to compensate and he has player motivating skill.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 7, 2010 9:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This post is a riot!!!hhahhaha
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
lol these guys need a stress reliever...
whisper: sex lol.
it's going to be a big overhaul.....
"Things have to change" - Antrel Rolle
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
TY for answering the question.
I was thinking the same also. I was wondering if he kept Coughlin, would he try to convert the defense into a 34. Which would erase this team’s progression, since we’ll be starting all over.
not to mention
Who is going to run our wildcat offense? Lol
"Things have to change" - Antrel Rolle
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
by andiamo708 on Oct 6, 2010 7:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BOMAR!!!
of course
Superman is back!
by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 6, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
duh
I’m embarrassed
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
not to mention
Who is going to run our wildcat offense? Lol
"Things have to change" - Antrel Rolle
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
by andiamo708 on Oct 6, 2010 7:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
technical difficulties....
we ask that you please bear with us
"Things have to change" - Antrel Rolle
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
Just answer the question all right!
;-)
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
/facepalm?
If that makes you facepalm then you have problems. I have a question for you and that jim dude, are you not satisfied in life if you do not get into 1 argument per day?
That question was nothing for you to get your panties into a bunch. It was a question that was asked to receive opinions. Not a declaration that would infuse a debate.
jdaking...it's comes with the territory
that’s why when I pose questions like that I make Bold Disclaimer statements and what not….you gotta consider how people are going to “take” what you are saying.
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
Yo Jake...I think Facepalm is something you rub on your balls when they itch..
and them damn panties will give you an instant wedgie..especially them damn string things..that is not meant to contact a man’s ass..Lets see a piece of rope stuck up a mans ass…ain’t gonna work.I always look and make sure them string things are lying on the floor beside her side of the bed..I want to get laid, not tied up in knots..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
I got a haircut the other day, a “high and tight”, and I am going to wear my Bradshaw jersey to the game Sunday, hopefully he will spot me and get the message
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Oct 6, 2010 5:52 PM EDT reply actions
i got high and tight Sunday night
although probably only a few hear remember “tight” as meaning drunk
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 7, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Where are you getting this?
"I was going to separate from this guy and make him look silly." -- Kevin Boss
New Giants OnLine....no Fooch though....
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
Beware of another Chris Johnson: Arian Foster
I know we are all thinking Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson, but Arian Foster is on pace for an NFL record 2148 yard rushing season with 16 TD’s at his current pace. We are lucky that we will at worst get a gimpy Andre Johnson, but this game could look very different from what we expect. Houston is talking about keeping Schaub upright, hoping the Giants egos are inflated by the Chicago performance, but it probably comes down again to stopping the run. Eli should be able to put up good numbers through the air, but if we lose the ball control battle he may not have enough time. This game will not be the Chicago game part two. We are not looking at winning by letting the dogs loose this week. We win with defensive discipline and sticking with your assigned gaps. After all the fun last week, it will be a challenge for the defense to get back to that disciplined approach again. But we were able to do it earlier in the season. Mainly worried about defensive over-enthusiasm this week.
Overall i was very pleased with how the defense controlled Johnson.
And the combination of Stewart/Williams against Carolina as well.
We were not able to shut down the Colts running game, but we were able to hold Peyton to under 300 yards, but most days that will disrrupt the Colts.
I only hope we can have similar success against Foster.
Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 6, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
it's pretty odd
I was trying to determine if fewell was using an extra man on the Dline in some of those “passing” downs. In Indy we saw the 4-2-6 with Grant as a LB. I think vs. Chicago Fewell featured a 5 man front with Boley and Grant at LB. I’m not sure if the 5th man on the line was Goff or an extra Dlineman.
I don’t know if this helped or if it was due to Chicago’s below average Oline who was dealing with substitutions.
Either way, it was working. Houston will be a different story. It should be interesting. I know one thing, if the Offense can’t hold the ball and if ST gives them a short field our D will wear down like it did vs. Tenn in the 4th quarter.
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
If anything that shows us Fewell is doing what needs to be done.
I think one of the problems with Sherridan last year was he had SO much talent on the defensive side of the ball (prior to C.C. Brown of course) he didn’t know what to do with it.
Fewell is keeping these guy fresh, and involved in the game. The Colts were able to have success with a no huddle offense…coincidence there?
Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 7, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree completely...
If you look at each game this season you can see that Fewell’s game planning was successful.
Carolina…stopped Stewart/Williams (their biggest threats…offensively)…WIN
Indy…slow down Peyton Manning’s passing attack…The Colts never run the ball or at least they didn’t until Peyton was presented with a defense that he could exploit on the ground and kill with play-action. No adjustments during the game equals a MASSIVE LOSS
Tenn…Keep Johnson contained…Not taking anything away from CJ but he was smashed all afternoon…smashed until it didn’t matter anymore and the Giants implosion seal the PENALTY LACED LOSS
Chicago…neutralize a Mike Martz offense by getting at the QB…uh, WIN
While I don’t intend these statements to be my argument for why the Giants should be 4-0…they lost those games. I’m just saying that we had the plan to win and just didn’t…
Is it SUNDAY yet?!!
"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)
I thought that the plan for the Colts was great
The problem was that the offense couldn’t get anything going and then the Michael Johnson screw-up. 14-0 down that plan doesn’t work anymore because the Colts could just burn the clock and run the ball without any concerns of a Giants comeback.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Oct 7, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I get what you're saying and it's valid...
but the biggest issue was the lack of adjustment. It’s like you said…down 14-0 and Indy controlled every aspect of the game. Still…you gotta be able to adapt in this league and they were caught sleeping.
"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)
Amen Lockhart
pound the rock, control the clock, stop the run, and from time to time try to burn that secondary.
That is always the recipe for winning.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 7, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
That's pretty much it Simms..
Except we have the tools to burn the secondary more often then ever before ..The only missing piece is Jacobs getting back to Jacobs football..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Not anymore its not
The new recipe is pass pass pass.
Rush the QB on 3rd down.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Oct 7, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
defense STILL wins championships
don’t let one superbowl throw ya off
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 8, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't "buy into" infer that he doesn't really take Coughlins advice seriously?
I’m hoping it was just a poor choice of words.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
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