Lions At Giants: Five Questions With 'Pride Of Detroit'
The 1-4 Detroit Lions come into New Meadowlands Stadium this Sunday. With that in mind I reached out to Sean Yuille of SB Nation's 'Pride Of Detroit,' for this week's chat with the opposition.
Sean took a few minutes away from studying for exams to answer my questions. Let's hope Sean has done better on his exams than the Lions do on Sunday. Anyway, here is the Q&A.
Big Blue View: Despite the 1-4 record, the needle seems to be pointing up for the Lions. What is the difference in this team from Detroit teams of the past few seasons?
Pride of Detroit: The main difference is that they actually have talent. On offense, the Lions are stacked with weapons like Jahvid Best, Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson, Brandon Pettigrew and Tony Scheffler. Even without Matthew Stafford, the Lions have played well enough to lead the NFC in scoring. (Yes, they got a TD on special teams and a TD on defense last week, but the offense is playing very well either way.) Defensively, the Lions have put together an excellent defensive line. Ndamukong Suh, Corey Williams, Kyle Vanden Bosch and Cliff Avril are all very talented and have formed a great unit together. The linebacker corps and secondary are still a bit shaky, but the Lions are getting good enough play out of those two units right now to keep games competitive rather than just be blown out of the stadium like in past seasons.
POD: C.C. Brown has had an up and down stay in Detroit. Early on in the preseason, he looked pretty good, but then he got banged up and has been dealing with a variety of injuries ever since. Even so, he has been serviceable as the complement to Louis Delmas at the safety position. He isn't great by any means and is prone to bonehead mistakes (two of which basically gave the Vikings touchdowns in that game earlier this season), but the Lions really don't have anybody else at safety and are surviving with Brown back there.
POD: The Lions' offensive line has actually looked pretty good this season when it comes to protecting the passer. Yes, there have been occasional screw ups (e.g. Matthew Stafford getting injured by Julius Peppers), but Shaun Hill made it a point to talk about how much time the O-line has been giving him after the Rams game. There was one play where Hill literally was able to sit back in the pocket for close to seven seconds before someone got open for a touchdown. He had all day to throw, which goes back to the solid play of the O-line. No, the Rams can't be compared to the Giants when it comes to the pass rush, but don't expect another Bears-esque massacre against Detroit.
POD: This one was easy: Antrel Rolle instead of C.C. Brown. While the Giants' defensive line is very talented, the Lions already have four solid D-linemen in their own right. The main weak spot on defense is still the secondary, but adding a guy like Rolle to go along with Louis Delmas would make for a very impressive safety combo.
POD: He is the real deal. Many didn't expect him to have such a big impact already, but he has exceeded the hype, if you can believe that. He is a menace when teams try to run in his direction. He can blow up opposing offensive lines and fight through double teams to get to the quarterback. He can intercept passes by tipping the ball to himself. And he even has an offensive package that sees him line up as a fullback. To say the least, he is a physical freak who is showing exactly why he was the No. 2 overall pick of the draft. He, along with some of the other guys that joined the Lions in the offseason, are why the Lions have one of the more impressive D-lines in football, at least in my view.
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The Lions
are a talented and in many respects a young team.
Once they learn how to win close games they will be competing in the North division for many years to come.
by G Fan in England on Oct 15, 2010 7:39 AM EDT reply actions
One Game..
This is just one game & anything can happen. Is Detroit better then Chicago who the G-Men dominated? I’m not using my crystal ball to look into t the Lions future any farther then Sunday.
Giants 30
Lions 17
Nothing Is Fool proof if you have the right fools.
I'm glad it's turning up for them
but the only way we lose this game is by ourselves… turnovers, special teams, etc. There’s still enough talent gap that if we play intelligent football, it should be a W.
I don't get it
Is their D-Line that good? Corey Williams used to be good, Vanden-Bosh isn’t anything great, and Avril is decent. Outside of Suh, I don’t see anybody special on that line.
Outside of the Colts, I don’t think there is a defensive line that should be in the same conversation as the Giants. Why? Because there is no defensive line that plays the run or the pass better.
The Giants never blitz, and Justin Tuck just might be the best run defending DE in the game.
The Giants often blitz
How do you think Ross concussed Cutler, on pass defense?
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 15, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
They blitz
But it isn’t a constant thing like the Eagles or Jets. They do use four-man rushes, because they have the players to get it done.
by Ed Valentine on Oct 15, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Never is not right
but they use it just enough to make them fear the blitz.
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
...Do you watch Giants games?
They don’t blitz very often. Of the 10 sacks against the bears, 1 was on a blitz. The ONLY time they blitz is when they go with a big base and Osi/JPP/Tuck/Kiwi blitz from the LB position
Detroit has been able to tone down the blitzes due to their DLine....
And according to your first sentence, you haven’t looked at stats nor watched a Lions game.
Are you kidding?
Your right I haven’t looked at their games, but I have looked up their stats.
Vanden Bosh – 22 Tackles, 0 FF, 0 INT, 1.5 Sacks
Corey Williams – 17 Tackles, 1 FF, 1 INT, 1 Sack
Ndamukong Suh – 18 Tackles, 0 FF, 1 INT, 3 Sacks
Cliff Avril – 8 Tackles, 0 FF, 0 INT, 1 Sack
Compare that to
Osi Umenyiora – 13 Tackles, 5 FF, 0 INT, 6 Sacks
Chris Canty – 18 Tackles, 0 FF, 0 INT, 1.5 Sacks
Barry Cofield – 23 Tackles, 0 FF, 0 INT, 2.0 Sacks
Justin Tuck – 32 Tackles, 1 FF, 0 INT, 4.0 Sacks
65 Tackles, 1 FF, 2 INT, 6.5 Sacks. That’s the Total for the Lions Line
86 Tackles, 6 FF, 0 INT, 13.5 Sacks. That’s the Total for the Giants line.
I didn’t even mention Kiwanuka, who has a stat line of
11 Tackles, 1 FF, 0 INT, 4 Sacks…he also hasn’t even played the last two weeks.
Why would we?
It counts as a game does it not?
How about we discount a Lions victory in 2008.
Oh wait
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Cahmonnnn
Low blowww
I think he was just joshin.
"If I was one of our offensive opponents, I’d be scared shitless"
-Antrel Rolle
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 15, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
it was. But I’m a tad annoyed of the cockiness of a lot of lions fans. Maybe it was only one fan that was everywhere but I just want it to be sunday already.
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
I know man
I’m pretty impressed with them though.
They were 0-16 just two years ago, I’m impressed that these guys are still behind their team, hopeful, and passionate.
I doubt I would be this excited if I went through a winless season.
"If I was one of our offensive opponents, I’d be scared shitless"
-Antrel Rolle
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 16, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Previous to last weeks game, the Lions were 2nd in the league in QB pressures
Schwartz mentioned it during a press conference. I doubt that changed all that much in one week. While we don’t always get the sacks we do apply constant pressure and get our fair share of QB hits. I don’t have paid access to pro football focus, but I think they track the pressures if you do have that access.
In terms of run defense all of our linemen are beasts, the problem is that all of our linebackers are liabilities. That is one of the biggest differences I see in our defenses, the back 7 of course. The front 4 on talent and in game production are on par with the Giants, even if they are not quite as good overall it is a pretty slight difference in talent levels. We also have rotational players like Turk McBride that have sacks. He will be out this week but we have other good ones too.
Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!
Suh
Still conflicted by this. Forgot Vanden Bosch (former Blackshirt/Husker) is also on that line. Hopefully the Giants win and the former Huskers do not cause too much havoc. That D-line is impressive and I hope Diehl is up to the task. By the way, I heard Snee might be hurt, rumor? On a side note, I really hope Jacobs lowers his should into CC, like he did to the Skins’ Landry. Or that Nicks continually beats him deep.
Even as a Lions fan
Jacobs rolling over CC would be funny to see. Just make sure to tell him to blow up Johnathin Wade too. Some of us at The Pride don’t like him.
I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid. - Terry Bradshaw
I hate it when we're favored by 10..Sequester the team!!
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
Ugh
This to me is a must win. After putting back to back wins together against what were widely considered some of the better teams in the NFL, if we lose to the 1-4 Lions (I know they’re talented, and better than their record, but they’re still 1-4) than it will just prove how wildly inconsistent this team is, and how we still haven’t really turned the corner.
I don’t care how it gets done, I don’t care how ugly the stat line is, get the W.
"If I was one of our offensive opponents, I’d be scared shitless"
-Antrel Rolle
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 15, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions
I share your concerns. Loosing this one would be a terrible sign.
Thank God it’s not a prime time game!!
I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night if it was.
When I get to the bottom, I go back to the top of the slide..."
You didn't know
We aren’t allowed to be in primetime. The one game we have that everyone will have the ability to watch is our Thanksgiving smacking of Tom Brady.
I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid. - Terry Bradshaw
I hate to report this to ya, but you're a bit mistaken.
We’ve had 2 already and have the COWBOYS and EAGLES in the next few weeks.
(Brady doesn’t EVER want to see the GIANTS again, outside of pre-season!!)
When I get to the bottom, I go back to the top of the slide..."
Stupid me! Here I am reading a Giants blog and didn't even consider someone who isn't a Giants fan might be posting here too!!??
I feel badly for the Lions fans so I’ll save the term “Troll” for Cowboys & Eagles fans
(with the exception of former known as ByeDawk that is)
When I get to the bottom, I go back to the top of the slide..."
Am I missing something?
the Lions are 25the overall in DEF, 26th against the rush, and 24th against the pass. Uhm why does that make them a good DEF again? And I guess teams like to run to the other side of Suh since they are 26th in a league of 32 team against the run.
Let's Go Giants!!!!
No, you are not missing anything Mac...
The numbers do give a different perception of the ability of this Lion team. However, dispite thier numbers, their overall performance has been worty of respect. The Bears game was theirs but well all know what transpired with that and they were competitive in the rest of the games they played thus far. It’s obvious that this is not the same Lions team that we have seen in previous years.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 15, 2010 9:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
exactly
and that’s why I see this as a trap game; theirs not a single position that you could say they’re better at other than ST. And that’s not a knock on them…it just is. Even though ESPN has them better at like 4 different spots including DLine
Let's Go Giants!!!!
theirs not a single position that you could say they’re better at other than ST
Scoring, Passing yds/game, and point differential.
There’s 3
Well neither is Special teams...
That’s a unit… so I really didn’t know where you were going with it…lol
you're right
my bad…shouldn’t have included that in my argument. but you know what i mean. ok here’s my prediction, CLF…Lions keep it close in score, but not in stats in the first half; maybe 10-0 or 13-3. Then the giant’s pull away in the 2nd half with the run game. Final score 24-10. Hill puts up decent garbage time stats, mostly in the 2nd half.
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Impressive prediction....
I will be EXTREMELY dissapointed if the lions can only manage to score 10pts on a Defense that is giving up an average of almost 17pts at home.
You are correct
Our numbers don’t look impressive, but their performance has been good at times. There was a first and goal from the 1 against Chicago in week 1 and we stopped them on all 4 plays.
I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid. - Terry Bradshaw
Thats why I said "performance is worthy of respect."
I am confident in the Giants ability but i have seen anough of the Lions to conclude that this won’t be a walk in the park. You guys gave the Eagles a run with M. Vick and although many may think that Vick is over and done, I don’t. We have our work cut out sunday.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 15, 2010 10:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that is one of my favorite things in all football.
The 4-play refusal to give up the goal line yard.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 15, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
What's the over/under
On people here complaining their blogger has a too-rosy view of his team?
I would summarize the Lions as having some good players, but not yet a good team. Vanden Bosch, despite his age, will make a few plays. Delmas will make a few plays. Same with Johnson and Best. The key is not to panic and continue to play our game plan.
The CC Brown Experience
Directed by M Night Shyamalan
“It was a 70-yard touch down the whole time!!!!”
hilarious...
"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)
Well ...
Lions have us beat in Special teams , Offense and TO ratio.. that is why the Giants could fall flat on are faces this week.
Lions 27 – 26
BOOOOOOOOOOO
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 15, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow....
….I will fall into a major funk if we lose this game. We should blow these guys out. 38-10.
by Last year in Sec 127 on Oct 15, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Even our guys aren't THAT sure we will win.
Overall the Giants are a better team. But it should be close at least.
I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid. - Terry Bradshaw
Nope
they thought the same of the Texans in Texas. This is our turf.
We are skeptical and that is good.
If we are indeed having ‘fun’ playing, Detroit will not have any fun out here.
Also, at some time the road jinx for the Lions has to stop but not this week—-26 or so in a row
I think that is more of an abberation
The Lions lead the All time series with the Giants.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 15, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Abberation???
I haven’t seen one of them things for two weeks..when I thought my wife was Shania Twain…Damn the luck!!
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"
that's a Stuart Scott stat
history doesn’t help the present.
Bokeem Woodbine
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 15, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The Texans beat the Giants in 2002
their first year in existance. The Giants blew them out last week.
The Giants never beat the Bears at the meadowlands in the regular season until two weeks ago.
The Giants never lost a home playoff game as a one seed. They did in 2008.
These stats mean nothing.
I really don't care about this game...
just hope we don’t lose. If we lose to the Lions, everyone would say we suck again and I do not want to be back there again.
I have a feeling that Steve Smith will have a special game this week
Just a feeling…. Giants win 24-10
Big Blue Through and Through
Good write up
I get the sense that this team has alot of good players, but just hasn’t had the- time, opportunity, consistent roster, or whatever- to put it all together.
Kinda like an average NBA roster, some good individual play but no sense of team as of yet. When the numbers don’t reflect the talent you gotta look at the possible reasons why… new coaches, new systems and no cohesive roster to learn the systems…yet.
The names he lists are all legit threats and should not be taken lightly. But they are just now developing any sense of being a team.
I think this is where having a Coughlin, and a consistent idea of who we are as a football team for the past few years will pay dividends.
They are dangerous, but I think the Giants, the team that doesn’t make mental mistakes that we have seen the past two weeks, should have enough to beat them.
Is Calvin Johnson going to play?
If he misses the game, that would be most fortuitous.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Based on what I read, he's still questionable.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 15, 2010 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what exactly is the nature of his injury?
Is it possible he could play but not be effective in relation to his injury?
If this Lions team had Stafford and Johnson together all year, they’d possibly be 4-1.
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Oct 15, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Shoulder stuff.
He hurt it coming down on a pass late in the game against the Rams, when we were already up big. In yesterday’s practice, he was only catching passes with his left hand and still couldn’t lift his right arm above his shoulder.
If he plays, he’ll at least draw coverage away from Nate Burleson and hopefully Scheffler and Pettigrew—so in a sense, he’d be effective enough if he’s out there. Schwartz is big on misinformation (he still hasn’t declared Shaun Hill the starter), but it’s been Calvin himself saying he couldn’t have gone back in during the Rams game even if it were close. Upsetting to say the least for my side.
by Jamesir Bensonmum on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I doubt the giants would double team him
if he has only one useful arm.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Oct 16, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
They say it is a shoulder sprain.
If he did play, I’m guessing he would proably be 70% effective.
by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 15, 2010 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We took out Andre
from being a distraction. We allowed him about 100 yards but no one else could get a thing. See the same thing with the Lions. Megatron may get his catches but the rest of the team will do nothing.
meaningless catches
We allowed him his catches, but no YAC. That is the key. I think Andre had only once made it past the safeties, and on that he was tackled right away.
...
Owen Daniels. That Dressen guy.
I’d take them over Pettigrew and Scheffler anyday.
All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan
Well, I don't like to overlook anyone....
but when the schedule first came out this was the first game I put a “W” on. I am not changing that line of thinking now.
Funny, this guy wants Rolle for Brown….welcome to our 2009 world! However, this is 2010 and the G-Men look to me like they are rolling. This is a game where we can beat ourselves but hopefully the guys have learned not to do that.
+10 points seems reasonable to me and I do expect Eli to burn C.C. on an out and up to one of his receivers this game.
I want more JPP and I want it now!
I have a feeling Suh is gonna replace Troy Polamalu
as my favorite non-Giants defensive player. I loved watching him at Nebraska, and it seems like he’s transitioning to the NFL just fine. While I think we ended up having a pretty good draft, a small part of me thinks I would have been fine trading all of our picks away to get Suh.
2009 Did Not Happen
CC
“Even so, he has been serviceable as the complement to Louis Delmas at the safety position. He isn’t great by any means and is prone to bonehead mistakes (two of which basically gave the Vikings touchdowns in that game earlier this season),”
The first stage is denial. Sounds like you’re starting to come around.
by Oppenheimer919 on Oct 15, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions
LOL
Thats what I would tell people last year. I would say CC is a big hitter and plays the run well. When in reality he sucked.
ahhh,
I hate to break up all the CC Brown is grabage talk, but he probably wont start in this game. Spievy will.
Damm, Say it aint so...
I predict CC will be good for 2 busted Coverages and a whif or two or three on Bradshaw coming out of the backfield.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 15, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't care about the Lions.
Game should be a blow out. If we don’t blow this team out, there will be problems.
I agree
it should be, but as long as we win, I’ll take it. Plus, the rest of the Beast are playing tough opponents so, we could be alone in first after this week. Plus, if Dallas loses this week and we beat them next week, they are most likely done for the season. what do you think?
Let's Go Giants!!!!
Should is the word...
However I will take a W however it comes.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 15, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I was surprised he would take Rolle over KP.
KP, when healthy, Imo is a top 5 saftey.
No matter what happens, at the end of the day, I will always bleed Giants Blue.
I keep hearing about Calvin Johnson this and that
He’s injured, not sure how bad it is but he’s not 100% that’s for sure. Corey Webster will make CJ a non factor.
*listens to this man
"We need to get him some more game experience and see him make decisions on the run. But I think he's earned the opportunity." - Eli Manning
"If I'm curt, then I apologize" - Newman
If Eli throws right-handed we win..
"When I was a boy and had no sense I got my pecker stuck in an electric fence..Well it curled my hair and tickled my balls, and made me shit in my overalls"

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