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   What's up to all my true Blue Giants fans out there. If you've read some of my comments on The Real Manning brother, you would probably think I want to take the guy on a man-date. Well the the truth is, I really do. But that's besides the point. The fact of the matter is Eli Manning deals with more crap than any player in the history of the NFL. I mean you would think that Eli is the worst quarterback in the league (or at least in our own division) the way that most sports analysts and fans conveniently forget to mention the many mistakes that virtually everyone on the offense contributes to on the football field, and how just because his last name is Manning (not first name Peyton) he too can't be a great QB.    

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  There are a lot of QBs in the league who got drafted and were ready to hit that gridiron and show what they were made of. The first thing that comes from Eli on draft day is that he would never want to play in San Diego. That was a classic display of someone being forthright, and completely honest about a situation they obviously wouldn't feel comfortable in, and with that GM...who the hell could blame him? I still to this day think that had San Diego not traded him (which no one ever forced them to do if I'm not mistaken) he would have suited up for them, because as we all know Eli is nothing but class.

    On the other hand though, it hasn't been all good for Eli in NY. Of course everyone knows that he brought home a Lombardi Trophy to NYC, and I definitely tip my hat to him for that. Hell...I'll give him all my hats for that, because what the hell else could you ask out of a franchise quarterback? Brett Favre only got one, and he seems to be doing pretty good for himself. But you also have to remember, he only took us to the playoffs four consecutive years, before failing this team and all it's fans by having his best statistical season without a running game, and a regressing offensive line. Even with just about the worst defense in Giants history, he was only able to lead us to an 8-8 record...for shame Eli...for shame. But now that it's a new season, let's remember to not be irrational or overreact, and realize we still have 13 FRICKIN GAMES to turn this season around.  Yes we looked bad week 2, really bad, and yes we beat the living crap out of ourselves week 3...but this team has talent, and I'm not quite ready to say this will be (only) the second year Eli misses the playoffs just yet.

     Eli is a great quarterback. I'm not gonna totally praise the guy, because you can't just win a Super Bowl/Super Bowl MVP, make it to the playoffs 4 out of 5 years, start every mother f*&^*&% game of your career with planter faciwhatever, a dislocated shoulder, or any other nagging injuries the Giants FO has decided to hide from us and think Mr. Tito over here is gonna call you a HOFer.... Nope, I don't think so. I'm from Jersey, and we don't pump our own gas. Where I'm from you have to show up and prove it again and again. It's all about what have you done lately,  not what you've done before. It's the same way in the NFL. Some guys catch the game-winning touchdown in the Super Bowl, and then the very next season they shoot themself in the leg.

    Back to Eli and his good year last year, those numbers are telling of just how much he has improved (again considering he had virtually no running game, and a regressing offensive line). Some will say it was due throwing the ball more frequently, but as Ghost (I believe?) has mentioned before, he did not eclipse career highs in attempts last year, in fact he threw the second least ammount of times in his career. Some will say that he did it in meaningless garbage time, but as my man FrankB03 pointed out...this was also not the case:

 

Week 6 vs Saints down 24 after the 3rd qtr we score 10 4th qtr points
Week 7 vs Cards down 10 – 4th qtr points=3
Week 8 vs Eagles down 16 – 4th qtr points=0
Week 9 vs Chargers down 7 – 4th qtr points 13 (none were garbage time)
Week 12 Broncos down 10 – 4th qtr points = 0
Week 13 Cowgirls UP 4 – 4th qtr points = 10 (more garbage time points) sarcasm
Week 14 Eagles down 6 – 4th qtr points = 7
Week 16 Panthers DOWN 31 – 4th qtr points = 6
Week 17 Vikings DOWN 44 – 4th qtr points = 7

 

    So, on that note I'm gonna tell you what I think would help Eli go from a great QB to a HOF one. First, He DEFINITELY needs a little bit of help from his WRs. It sucks that most analysts (and some "fans" for that matter) don't actually watch the games, than they peak at the box score and see Eli has the number of interceptions that he does and think they are all his mistakes...but if Nicks, Smith, Barden, Manningham, and Bradshaw can make some of these plays they're effin' up right now (and I believe they can) his numbers will be through the roof. Second, Eli needs to work on talking to the coaches about getting him some help on the offensive line. I mean, all the defenses have to do is field a decent speed rusher on Diehl, and Eli will be throwing off his ass for most of the day. I know they did a decent job against TEN, but the game against IND was so bad, we just can't have that again. Try being a bit creative ala Tom Brady, maybe re-structure your contract or start filling Reeses head with thoughts of drafting a left tacle with the 32nd pick next year. Third, Eli just has to continue doing exactly what he's doing. He's consistently improved each and every year in every facet of the game even though he's lost a HOF running back, a top 10 tight-end, and his number one and two wide recievers from his first four seasons. The man had four consecutive playoff years, 5 consecutive years of 3,000+ yards and 20+ Tds (something only Brady, the other Manning, Brees, Marino, and Favre have also done) a Super Bowl win, a Super Bowl MVP, an Iron Man Streak, a Pro Bowl, and on top of all that he loves beating the shit out of  the Cowboys.

   So on that note (again?) let me hear your two cents about why you love or hate the way Eli has played with the Giants so far this season. Maybe you're a realist like me, or you're just another one of those Manning haters that don't know a good thing when it puches them in the mouth. I'd like to hear what you have to say. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion...no matter how dumb it is.

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Good stuff

you made a hell of a lot of good points, I have nothin to add…. for now.

Superman is back!

by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 1, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Ditto!!

"I play real sports…not trying to be the best at exercising."
"I'm a bulletproof tiger man!"
- Kenny Powers "Eastbound and Down" (season 1)

by nywins42 on Oct 1, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Another long post

Ed is going to have to hold an essay competition

Eli is a good QB. Took a long time to mature, but I’m glad to have him.

by ct17 on Oct 1, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Great work Tito

If there's ever a riot at Citi Field and Oliver Perez was the starter, I started the riot.

by meigs1414 on Oct 1, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup

Winning cures all...even stupid

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 1, 2010 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

You forgot one thing Tito...

Eli is HOT!!!

Seriously, great post. You know I have a girl crush on Eli and will defend his awesomeness every time someone questions it.

by telcochik on Oct 1, 2010 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Gosh-

lately, it feels like the entire female population is in love with Eli. He’s got the Kavorka or something.

by takeoutburger on Oct 1, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

with the addition

of the vouge pictures…. tito hands down

Superman is back!

by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 2, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Umm no that would be me...

but don’t tell my husband ; )

Takeoutburger should realize that my love for Eli is unconditional, win or lose, not a jumping on the bandwagon kind of thing.

by telcochik on Oct 4, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your husband and I could drink together on Sundays

My wife’s a Tom Brady-ite

(Grew up with her dad a Pats season ticket holder)

Though it was nice seeing his mojo forever destroyed in XLII

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 4, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

My husband is used to it...

goes right along with my undying devotion to Jon Bon Jovi!

by telcochik on Oct 4, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh the Jov...

Sighh

"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 4, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know telcochik--

We’re in the same boat. Win or lose, Eli’s my boy. Never thought it was a bandwagon thing. I’m surrounded by females who defend Eli ferociously. They’re gaga for him. Lol.

by takeoutburger on Oct 5, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Question

if you could get a man-date with him, what would you have planned for the night?

Superman is back!

by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 1, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Well...

I know how much he likes antiques shopiing so we’d probably hit some flee markets during the day. I also remember from the Americas Game that he enjoys bowling…maybe some of that, of course we’d have to grab a brew or six while he shared stories of what it was like to live through the moments I watched every Sunday on my TV.

Probably finish out the night by making bunk beds so we could have more room for activities.

"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 1, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

step brothers reference, Niceeee

Sounds like a great time. Only thing better would be a trip to Home Depot, buy some wallpaer, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath and Beyond… I don’t know, I don’t know if we’ll have time!!!

Superman is back!

by The Always Well Dressed... on Oct 1, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA love it...

Gonna be a nice little Saturday.

"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 1, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG

you guys are killing me.

"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells

by FrankB03 on Oct 1, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hilarious question

Made me think of the dating game

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 1, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

brilliant post!!!

rec’d :)

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Oct 1, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

love it

but for some reason I have this strange suspicion that this post was in reply to another post…

by ddhamaka814 on Oct 1, 2010 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Really?

I don’t what on Earth could give you that idea?

;)

"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 1, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!!!! Goodness, I've seen it all now.

Okay, I give up. I will not get caught up in any more Eli Manning debates.

by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 1, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

You're at least rational Lo.

And you’re my dude, so I wouldn’t expect anything less.

But I don’t ever recall you calling Eli a moron, or saying he sucks…because even you will attest the he isn’t, and he doesn’t.

"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 1, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Eli is a great QB. I only have a problem when fans overlook his errors or give him credit that is not warranted. He helped us win a SB and for that I am always grateful. Eli has my respect so I will never stoop to name-calling when debating his achievements.

by LoNJDTechnology on Oct 5, 2010 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

First

and foremost. I’d love to have dinner with Eli. What could be better than that?

Second, in the other thread I completely forgot about Eli’s Iron Man streak. He’s played through some serious issues.

Let me digress for a moment. I’m sure so many will disagree with my next statement. Brett Favre is/was a great QB. That being said he’s arguable they most overrated QB in NFL history. What? How can one be great and overrated? Easy! If you’re portrayed as a 12 but are really a 9 then you’re overrated.

Tito, great thread.

"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells

by FrankB03 on Oct 1, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

You're the man Frank.

You should have wrote this post, you have a plethora of statistics I wish I could get my hands on.

Keep doin whatchu do.

"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 1, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Hello everyone, my name is Curtis Granderson, and I'm a bus-o-holic
A supporter of the MFY.

by Edgware on Oct 1, 2010 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

This is great tito. Thanks...

I’m rooting for Eli to just go out there and win himself another SB MVP to make all the haters/realists crawl back into their little holes. The NFL Network tonight was going on and on about Michael Vick; highlighting throws that I saw Eli make (better ones!) against the Titans. But I didn’t see even one of those highlighted. It’s total bull. There’s no doubt that there’s a “lesser” perception of Eli in the national media that people who don’t watch the games or only look at stats eat up because it’s easy.

Now, look at the Steelers. Everyone thought they were in trouble without Ben. Nope. They hardly miss him. Now, imagine, right now, the Giants going without Eli. shuddering just thinking about it That O-line scares the crap out of me.

by takeoutburger on Oct 1, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

The thing about New York fans

That I really hate, is how fickle they are.

Guys like Peyton, Montana, Elway, Favre, Big Ben, Rivers, even Bernie frickin Kosar had/have entire cities behind them…while a guy like Phil Simms wasn’t ever truly appreciated while he was playing here, and neither will Eli…no matter how many Super Bowls he wins.

"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 1, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

***unless

 your a yankee.

Which is one reason why I don’t like the yankees as much as I could in a different situation

All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan

by Willgfass on Oct 1, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tito

most fans are fickle. I moved to Florida 14 years ago. Florida fans are much worse than NY. If there team doesn’t do well then have little interest. Even Florida U. When they were average a few years ago under Ron Zook their fan base disappeared.

"I don't do many endorsements. I'd rather get doused by Gatorade than bust my butt selling it." - Bill Parcells

by FrankB03 on Oct 2, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a good point.

The Jets should just pack up and move to L.A.

by takeoutburger on Oct 1, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

If I was gonna have dinner with any Giants player

hmmm, other than Bradshaw, any of’em been busted for the herb?

I’m probably thinkin Bradshaw

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 1, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

rec'd

and rec’d

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Oct 1, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Why I love Eli:

I was quite young in the days of Simms. I mainly developed as a Giants fan under Dave Brown, Danny Kanell, and Kent Graham. Kerry Collins was like Joe Montana to me. This, my friends, is why I love Eli Manning. He is leaps and bounds ahead of any of those guys and, with the exception of that game Collins had against the Vikings, has made me way more happy way more times than any of those other chumps. He’s great. He has his flaws, but who doesn’t? I love him because he’s ours and he’s good. That’s pretty much all it takes. The fact that he’s a class guy and keeps his nose clean is all the more icing on the proverbial cake.

Oh yea, and the sig on the Cowboys wall was def. the cherry on top.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Oct 2, 2010 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

That's what it's all about Dave.

"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 2, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

My night out with Eli.

Would actually be a romantic night in. I live in Wa state right now due to the military and I remember New York pizza. We would order pizza and watch our favorite comedy The Office together.

by wangstu13 on Oct 2, 2010 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

You Guys Are Funny,.....

I must have really had a serious impact on you guys. But tito, don’t be a swagger jacker. Or in other words, don’t plagiarize my post, man. Have your own thoughts, ideas, and concepts. Don’t just try to write my stuff, and then twist it to sound like your own. Don’t be a copycat Fan Poster. At least italicize what you stole, so folks who read it will know that it came from PAULIE KNUCKLEZ and not your feeble little brain. Don’t be a clown,… but I guess you can’t help that either

by PaulieKnucklez1 on Oct 3, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

you really are blind..

he used the same format on purpose to show how foolish you are. to pretty much probe wrong every point you made.. lmao and enough with the tough NJ persona.. its immature already.

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Oct 3, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems I got a few more recs than you Pauly...

I guess it’s not me who needs to consider a change in format.

"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 3, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually....

This post would’ve been decent, if you just wrote your own material. I just think that you were so mad that I called out your ‘Boo’ Eli on some of his flaws and you took it to a whole other level. I didn’t know that most of you guys up here went that way, so SORRY. I don’t want to offend anyone who wants a ‘man-date’ with Eli.

by PaulieKnucklez1 on Oct 3, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow

Progressive minds around here, huh…

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Oct 3, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Here’s some of my thoughts.

Link.

"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 3, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what.....

I actually DO like that post. I may not agree with you an where Eli should be on that list, but hey, whaddareyagonnado, huh? I always said Eli is a GOOD quarterback, I mean he IS in my top 10 best quarterbacks in the league right now. All I want from Eli is to be more consistent. It doesn’t really help that sometimes his O-line doesn’t block so well, and his receivers might not catch so well either, but when they do,… HE HAS TO COME THROUGH!!! That’s my only beef with him. Other than that, Eli’s good with me.

by PaulieKnucklez1 on Oct 4, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

and I LOL’d at the caught in a rad bromance comment before awesomeness

by John Mjr on Oct 4, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously...

That had me lolin for a minute

"Thirty-nine seconds left...Manning lobs it, Burress alone, touchdown New York."

by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 4, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you thank you

I’m here all night

All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan

by Willgfass on Oct 4, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are on the money Tito

    I give you even more credit that you made these comments after week 3 when things looked the worst.
    I don’t get all the Eli bashing-never have. Fact is he is-as Phil Simms, who knows a little something about this-better every year. The last 2 years were his best years-statistically-ever as he had only 26 picks over 2 years, and went from averaging 200 yds per game to 250.
      The thing that has got to go is people who still claim he is not at his brother’s level! Hello? Last I checked he has just as many Lombardi trophies as Peyton and as the Colts may have peaked now, he may well end up wth more than Peyton by the time it;s over, in fact I predict exactly that.
        You make a good pont about Farve too-he won in 95 and never again and yet people talk about him as a Hall of Famer-as he is-but some still question Eli’s ability. Makes no sense.

by Mike Sax on Oct 12, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I shoud say “as Phil Simms who knows a little something about this says”

by Mike Sax on Oct 12, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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