New York Giants News & Notes: Playoff Weekend Without the Giants
by cjmulrain on Jan 9, 2010 10:30 AM EST
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, it's here: the first playoffs in 5 years that the Giants will be watching from home. I want to say something like "honestly, I almost prefer this, I can just enjoy the games and not have to be nervous about the Giants," but the fact is that's a load of bull. I wish the Giants were playing today, even if I am sure they'd get blown out by whoever they faced. Here's some links to distract you from tonight's dreaded matchup.
- Ralph Vacchiano provides a recap of the 2009 season and a look ahead to 2010. Probably the most controversial thing he says: maybe the Giants should cut Brandon Jacobs: "The uncapped year could present a one-time-only chance to dump players and just void the rest of their contracts - - something the Giants might have to think about with Brandon Jacobs. He’s got three years left on his four-year, $25 million deal, but he was awful this season and given all his injuries does anyone think he’s going to get better? Running backs tend to be interchangeable in this league. It may pay to find a younger, healthier, better option."
- Paul Schwartz reports that Tom Coughlin will take his time finding a replacement for Bill Sheridan. I read this as "he's waiting for the Patriots to be eliminated from the playoffs so he can talk to Pepper Johnson."
- Speaking of job candidates: recently fired defensive lines coach Mike Wauffle is a candidate for the same positionwith the Redskins. I wish Wauffle well, but part of me doesn't want to see him end up back in the NFC East, because as disappointing as this year was, he has been a pretty good coach for the majority of his time here.
- ProFootballWeekly reports that the Giants biggest changes will probably come at linebacker. Good.
- Plaxico Burress was denied his attempt for a work furlough. I'll keep my opinions on this to myself, since they would venture into the political realm.
- Not really Giants related, but congratulations to Mark Ingram for following up his Heisman winning season with a National Championship and MVP in the title game honors. Most of you probably know, but if there's anyone out there too young to remember, Mark's father (also Mark) was a wide receiver for the Giants Super Bowl XXV team, and, perhaps more importantly, was one of the Giants starting receivers in Tecmo Super Bowl, where he lives on to this day. Mark Sr. is currently in jail for tax evasion, but it's a nice story about his son, whom I would certainly not be opposed to seeing don a Giants uniform in two years.
Finally, last week I offered you my opinion on the rooting etiquette for the Eagles-Cowboys game, and I believe things ended up pretty much perfectly (the Eagles falling from #2 to #6 in one afternoon was fantastic). Tonight is a lot tougher. If you told me that whichever team won tonight was absolutely going to win the Super Bowl, I would remorsefully choose the Cowboys. I've lived through Cowboys Super Bowls before, and I can live through them again. I don't ever want to see the Eagles win a Super Bowl, especially not so close on the heels of the Phillies' recent successes.
That said, since we don't know that either of these teams will win the Super Bowl this year, I think you have to want the Eagles to beat the Cowboys, and then pray they lose next weekend. It's actually similar reasoning to why I'd prefer a Cowboys Super Bowl victory - the Eagles have won a lot of playoff games this decade, and they have nothing to show for it. The further they go before they lose only adds to their fans angst, which I love. The Cowboys, on the other hand, haven't won a playoff game in 15 years, and it's too much fun being able to taunt their fans with that fact. So, my official rooting etiquette for tonight is to hope the Eagles win, but don't get too happy or upset with whichever outcome: either way, a team we absolutely hate will lose!
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Nice notebook, CJ
What the Giants do with Jacobs will be interesting. Vacchiano raises an excellent point, and I think it is a situation worth keeping an eye on.
Hmm, what to do with Jacobs is right?
One half of me would like to see him back healthy and return to the old Brandon of 2008. Is it possible given his unique size (Okoye), or has he already peaked and the best is behind? Though he doesn’t have alot of mileage, and i think he’ll be 27, these injuries to the big boy can really have an effect on him, again, Okoye!
Now the other half thinks he may be a bit better next year, but good enough to warrant his contract, 6mil? Perhaps cutting your losses now may be the best way to go. I really can’t foresee him playing out the rest of his contract at a level we would like.
That's the question
And it will be interesting to see how the Giants read Jacobs future. As Ralph pointed out, this off-season might be the only chance to cut ties without a significant cap hit.
by Ed Valentine on Jan 9, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well then, if there is no hit if uncapped
This definitely will be very interesting, especially throughout the league. Teams dropping alot of their dead weight players ($$$) and you know what they say about anothers trash, could be anothers treasure?!
2010 may be the steepest test yet for JR ...
as the number of veteran FA’s available via “dumping” might really be significant. GM’s that get this right (dump the right guys and sign the right guys), can really set up a nice windo to compete for the next 3-5 years. Get it wrong, and it won’t be pretty.
I hope the eagles make the championship game again
only to lose for the 6th (?) time this decade
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 9, 2010 10:47 AM EST reply actions
Jacobs
Cut Jacobs. Get one or two running backs in the draft (3-4 th rounds). Even good running backs only last about 5 good years if they rush 20 times a game.
draft Tebow as a RB
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 11, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
I like that last scenario lol
Eagles win, so that keeps the Cowboys playoff loosing streak going. Then next week the Eagles loose (hopefully in an embarrassing fashion). Love it. You are right though, either way a team I hate is out. I hope it goes down that way though, adding to the tally of years without a playoff victory for the Cowboys would be enjoyable.
by oywiththepoodlesalready on Jan 9, 2010 10:53 AM EST reply actions
I think CJ nailed ...
the twisted logic we fans use in how to best “root against” our division rivals. It’s a little perverse, but I’ve got to admit that this is just how we feel about it.
I don't want Romo to win a playoff game
that would ruin any chance I could have of making fun of my cowboy fan friends during the offseason.
Than the eagles lose to the Saints, and all will be well.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
But ... if Wade finally wins one (just one hopefully) ...
maybe Jerry will keep him for another couple of years, dooming the Boys longer term. A Cowboy loss tonight and Wade is gone. Question is, who would they hire (Cowher won’t be Jerry’s second banana), and would that transition be worse than keeping Captain Cupcake ?
If they fire wade
as much as I think he isn’t a good coach, firing him will mean they are less than good next year. Wade is an awesome defensive coordinator guy, and their defense will suffer, at least for a year, if he’s fired
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
I also am rooting against the Cowgirls
I want that streak to continue for the rest of my natural life if possible. Mar Ingram Sr is a sad story, besides Tecom I will also remember him for 3rd and 13 against the Bills. Mark Ingram Jr would be a great Giants, except to get him means eith a blockbuster trade or a season next year that gives us a top 3 pick. Not sure i like either of those choices.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Jan 9, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions
Eagles V Cowboy is great
Once I knew they would both make the playoffs, I was hoping this would be the matchup. I couldnt deal knowing that they could both make the NFC championship, and now I dont have to. I too want the Eagles to win, thus keeping the Cowboys’ playoff futility alive. Then, they can get spanked by the Saints next week and all will be well.
Have to go with the Eagles.
My Cowboy hatred, stemming from the Staubach days, really, really despising (why, I don’t know) Randy White (oh, yeah, I’m an east coast elite latte sipping jazz and foreign film loving city guy with an aversion to humongoid cowpunchers in stetsons) I do not hate
Randy Reid, Mc Nabb and the rest. Don’t like ‘em. But don’t hate ‘em. But the Cowboys —
America’s Team my Bronx born ass! What America ?! The America who’s current Governor threatens secession and cries tyranny when he wouldn’t know real tyranny if it bit him in his blow dried hair ass. May the sun refuse to rise on Cowboy country. For now. And ever more. F the cowboys and all they represent. Phew…
leave the politics out of it
I was a boys fan in 70’s. Then we drafted LT and my loyalties were corrected, but I can’t see hating Staubach, R white etc. more than Mcnabb and iggles
by jerseybillfromva on Jan 9, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wasn't Randy Reid
a porn star in the 90’s?
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Jan 9, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
My cowboy hate is very, very strong,
The two wins off them makes this season go down the throat much better than it would have otherwise. Just ask Harry Carson.
I much more amiable to letting the sociopaths finally get their bowl and perhaps having a chance at psychological recovery. Also it will be fun watching martial law being declared in Philly. If you’re in the Guard around there I suggest you keep that weekend free.
But tonight we get the chance to see who chokes best, the scatter brained Romo or the vomiting McNabb. It could be either a 1000 yard passing or 10 iT. game.
Conan!, What is good in Football?!
Daa.... to run between the tackles,
To drive the linebackers before you,
And to hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders.
Good point. Maybe how the game ends ...
is more important than who wins.
Ideal scenario, repeated Romo chokes, McNabb hurls his Chunky soup and Kitna/Kolb have to mop up (literally in Kolb’s case …)
how hilarious would it be
if the game went to OT and towards the end of the first 15 minutes, McNabb just makes like a crazy hail mary pass that gets intercepted and the Cowboys end up winning the game, and afterward, McNabb explains that he “didn’t want the game to end in a tie, b/c I thought the Cowboys would advance based on tiebreakers” or something like that
2009 Did Not Happen
My 3 most dispised sights in pro sports are
1. Jerry Jones celebrating in his luxury box.
2. Jerry Jones celebrating on the sidelines.
3. Jerry Jones
Fly E A G L E S! Just this week though
LarryHarryCarlPepper
Ah, give Jones at least one Kudo..Let's be fair here, okay?..
It is fun watching him pick his nose on his new Jumbotron TV…
Letting go of BJ might make the most sense in the long-term, but...
…I sure as hell wouldn’t want to face him if he ends up with some other team, as I imagine he would be pretty ticked off and ready to flatten one of our hapless defenders…
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 9, 2010 2:20 PM EST reply actions
Jacobs is staying
who else would want him after this season? and what would we get in return? He will be 30 and coming off an injury. he wouldnt be worth even a 6th round pick I would imagine. He’s gotta get healed and we should hope that he is somewhat productive with his 10-12 carries a game next year.
LarryHarryCarlPepper
Pete Carroll
FOX reporting Carroll accepted a 5 year deal @ 7 mill
alot of cash for someone who hasnt coached in the pros for ten years
Carroll = Spurrier v. 2.0
He’ll be back in the college ranks again in a few short years
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 9, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Signing Carroll ensures the State of Washington maintains sole possession of at least one title...
The Nations Suicide Rate…
Pete Carroll:
97-19 in the NCAA
33-31 in the NFL
I can’t decide who the bigger fool is in this one, Carroll or the Seahawks. On the one hand, Carroll could have been a legend at USC for as long as he wanted, basically the next version of Bobby Bowden, even if he never won another Championship. He gave that up for a job he’s probably gonna lose within 3 years, and he’s not even gonna be making that much money (he was being paid like an NFL coach to begin with). Also, while I’ve never been to Seattle, I can’t imagine the ladies there are nicer to look at than the girls at USC.
On the other hand, the failure rate for college coaches is so high in the NFL that this move just makes no sense for the Seahawks. For Carroll, if he fails, he can always go back to the NCAA, and no matter what he’ll always have this run at USC under his belt, so he’ll always be remembered at least somewhat fondly. For the Seahawks, this just wastes the last few years of Hasselbeck’s career, and you know they’re not gonna do a full rebuild with Carroll at the helm, so what’s the point?
2009 Did Not Happen
It may be that Pete is abandoning the ship before USC is finally
brought to justice by the NCAA. It’s funny how a couple of girls holding up “come to Tennessee” signs at a high school here in South Carolina was such big news while the antics in Southern California never seem to get into the spotlight.
The NFL will chew up Pete, who was a very average coach in his last stint there. He won’t have the huge advantage in talent and an easy schedule to make himself look good.
by giant fan since 57 on Jan 10, 2010 6:06 AM EST up reply actions
that's actually a pretty good point
I didn’t really think of that. Kinda like when Calipari took the Nets job to get out of UMass before all the recruiting stuff came out.
On another note, we haven’t seen you around much ‘57 – we’ve been having all kinds of debates about switching to a 3-4 defense. We figured you’d be all over that haha!
2009 Did Not Happen
I'm still here lurking about and using mind control
to bring you all over to the 3-4…LOL
I notice that every time I bring up the 3-4 someone posts that our defensive ends aren’t suited for it. In the conventional 3-4 the defensive ends basically just tie up the tackles so the linebackers can blitz the quarterback and stop the run. Well lately all our defensive ends have done is tie up the tackles.
I would also like to point out that we are not compelled to use any past or present version of the 3-4. As for the argument that we don’t have the linebackers to play the 3-4, we don’t seem to have the linebackers to play the 4-3 either but we play it anyway.
by giant fan since 57 on Jan 11, 2010 5:15 AM EST up reply actions
Not saying I agree with it
or think it’s a great move by Seattle but if guys like Wade and Norv get third chances to be HC in the NFL then there is no reason Carroll shouldn’t. Like Wade and Norv he was successfull coordiantor in the NFL and unlike Wade he won a playoff game. The Jets only gave him one year and fired him for Rich Kotitie and he led the Pats to the playoffs 2 out of the three years he was HC.
Like I said I’m not saying it’s a great move but he’s just as qualified if not more so then some of the other NFL re-tread coaches and he was’nt nearly the joke that Spurrier, Petrino, Erikson, or Saban were in the NFL.
With all of that said I think Pete is nuts. Leave SC for Seattle. I mean the weather alone and the fact he’s the best HC in the College game, my god why give that up, the NFL is an awful awful job. He probbably wants to prove to himself that he can win at the NFL level becasue he’s been successfull at every other level so this is the last great challange for him.
Also the Seahawks did they not learn their lesson with Dennis Erkison taking him from the U. I mean come on go with a young hungry NFL assistant don’t make the same mistake twice.
I think two points you made explain it ...
1. Fired to make way for Rich Kotite (ouch …)
2. Needs to prove to himself that he can succeed at the big boy level.
or, he’s just going along to extort more $$ from USC …
True
but the Kotite thing was more of the Jets being the Jets. They probabbly would have fired Vince Lombardi if he a bad year for Kotite.
those were great times in Philly...
…in the early-90s when the “F*** Kotite” shirts were sold along the “F*** Dallas” shirts in the Vet parking lot.
Class, class, class…
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 9, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
AFUL weekend highlighted by pitiful Saturday
I belive this is the first time the Cowboys, Jets, and Eagles all made the playoffs in the same season! Even worse our beloved G-men are home.
Today is terrible in so many ways . . . lets go Bengals!
The good thing about tonights game is we will either be hearing, Romo and the Cowboys can’t win a playoff game or McNabb and Reid choke again, lets get rid of Donnovan talk.
I know I’m in the minority here but I’m rooting for the Cowboys. Like CJ I believe the Eagle fan is a distgusting creature that can never be allowed to win a Super Bowl. It’s like the US government making sure Kim Jong il never gets his hands on nuclear weapons. The consequences would be deadly for everyone!!!!
cant say i dont agree with you about the Eagle Fan
The Eagle Fan deserves their team to be owned by Al Davis.
LarryHarryCarlPepper
I'm woring, actually I looked it up
in 1981, the Boys, Eagles, and Jets all made the playoffs but so did our Giants. And the G-men got to beat those dirtbag Eagles in the first round thank you Mr. Rob Carpenter. So this year is much much worse.
Just becasue of the way this season went I’m prediciting. . . Eagles Jets SB . . .I won’t watch.
I read it as whoring
=shifty eyes=
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Marshawn Lynch
sorry to change the subject but the Lynch story just got me laughing hysterically. Seems that Marshawn Lynch may have replaced that guy who said we should draft Tebow with the 15th pick as the dumbest person on the planet.
LarryHarryCarlPepper
I dunno, AB's past misdeeds are pretty lame as well...
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 9, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yea but AB
stealling a playstation happend when he was in college or in HS Lynch stole somehting as a multi millionar in the NFL.
"Woring?"..That is a Redneck Eagle Fan term..Used in response to the question:
Yankee : “Where is your Super Bowl ring?”
Redneck: “Woring?”
Jacobs
I’m not down with cutting the big man after one down year. When healthy Jacobs is a unique weapon for the Gmen. Remember when the Rams thought Bettis was done? I’d hate to see Jacobs sign with the Eagles or Skins…
what to root for tonight
tonight im rooting for food poising to gives both teams violent bowl disruptions. i doubt i will even watch.
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
There's another good Redneck term.."Food Poising"..
Dallas pre-game buffet:
Wade: “Hey, how cum that food poising?”
Player: “Cus dey didn’t kill it fore dey cooked it”
lol, what i REALLY meant was poisoning!!!
LOL i wish both teams were dead!
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.
Cowboy/Eagles
Its no-lose from our perspective:
1) After thumping Philly twice, and last week in the same building, if they blow this one Phillips will be axed and that town will go off on Champagne Tony.
2) If Philly tanks, the McNabb/Vick thing will start manifesting itself again and Reid and McNabb will be back on the hot seat.
For me, to build on a line from Animal House:
“is there anything in this world you hate more than (Insert “the Eagles” instead of “That Horse”).
Go Cowboys.
I dunno man...
after the Jets winning…then entirely too many delusional fans claiming SB!…now of course one playoff win in 14 years….now is 3-5x the amount of the Jet fans that are Cowboy fans…all delusional..claiming SB.
The fact that there’s still the possibility of a Jets Cowpoke SB…makes my bunghole itchy…
N8 !
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 10, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't even think of that.....
It must be a self preservation instinct to block that thought. I don’t think I could bare to watch a Jets vs Cryboys super bowl. Yuck.
you guys are off
the Eagles are way more despicable. The COwboys unloaded some of their most hateable players in the past few years, that’s why they’re winning… No TO, No horsecollar Roy, no Tank Johnson… all they have for despicable dirtbags is Trip Addams… the Eagles are way more vile. Mike Vick. Nuff said. I was hoping the Eagles lost. F’em and their No Superbowls
You play to win the game!
Cowboys vs Eagles?
After the Giants Super Bowl 21 triumph over the Denver Broncos I went to hear George Young give a talk. For those who don’t remember him, he was the General Manager who hired Bill Parcells as coach and built up the Giants to win two Super Bowls.
There was a question and answer period after the talk, and someone asked him, “When you watch the Cowboys play the Redskins, and you would somehow like to see both of the Giants main opponents lose, who do you root for?”
Young thought for a moment, and said, “If the Dallas Cowboys were playing the Nazi’s, I would root for the Nazi’s.”
Absolutely true story.
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