Giants Mock draft.
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 4, 2010 4:11 PM EST
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Well...here goes.
First off, I'd love to say they trade down, but I have no idea who would trade up with them, so I'll leave it alone. I still think the pick would be the same...so I guess it wouldn't matter.
Pick 15- Earl Thomas S-Texas. Not sure if he's coming out, but I doubt that he won't be if he has a good BCS champ game or more importantly is a First round lock (which I doubt he is not)
He's a playmaker. He's not real big...but who really cares? He'd 5"10, 195...so he's not small. I've seen that he runs in the 4.4-low 4.5 range, which is excellent for a safety.
I can't see how he wouldn't be the pick cuz of the uncertainty of this teams safeties. The only one who's any good is Kenny Phillips...and even in he returns, who knows how good he'll be upon returning? Thomas may be...dare I say, as good as Polamalu or Ed Reed when they came out of college (please don't skip over the "coming out of college" part...its important you know...) He probably would be the pick if KP was 100%...he's a need pick..and quite possible BPA anyway (kinda like Hakeem Nicks last year)
Round 2- Brandon Spikes. Well..at least I hope so. Since this is only a Giants mock, I have no idea if he'll fall. But I say he does anyway...so there.
I've always been undecided on Spikes, but in round 2..I don't think he'd be a bad choice. Falls kinda like Rey Maualuga of last year...so why not? Rey-Rey was pretty good for the Bengals..why not Spikes for the Gints? He could be competition for Jon Goff and potentially any of the LB's on the team...no one should feel safe from the debacle that was 2009.
If he's not there...Navarro Bowman, Greg Jones for LB's (if they are there). Arthur Jones, Brian Price for DT's.
Even Greg Romeus for DE is not out of the question. Competitions and youth, guys with a hunger for football and out to prove themselves.
Dark horse would be Jahvid Best. He has too much talent to see him fall any farther, and would be a BPA selction.
Round 3- Dexter McCluster. Is it a reach? Maybe. Will OC Kevin Gilbride have no idea what to do with him? Absolutely.
Whatever. I see a whole bunch of teams, other then the Dolphins, successful with the wildcat. Even the Jets are very successful with Brad Smith back there.
McCluster pretty much goes to 'Wildcat' U under Houston Nutt and Ole Miss. He's a maestro at running it.
Round 4-Ndamukong Suh. Well...who the hell really knows
More realistically, Jared Odrick. Maybe not realistically, cuz he'll possibly go earlier. Oh well.
Maybe just leave it at a DT? BPA along the defensive line is probably better? DE, DT..whatever, the best of what is there at DL.
Round 5- OL. Preferably an interior OL. I think they'll sign a FA RT to compete with Kareem McKenzie. Will Beatty will be the starting LT, Dave Diehl to LG, O'Hara, Snee and whoever wins the RT competition at RT.
Matt Tennant, Eric Olsen, Steve Wisiniewski are the OC propects...ANY of them would be fine.
OG's? Sergio Render or Rodney Hudson could possibly fall...either of them would be fine. John Jerry is 350lbs..so maybe him? John Asomuah or Dan Doering wouldn't be bad either.
There's some goot C's and OG's in this draft. Round 5 is a good spot for one.
Round 6- Punter or kicker. There's some good P/K in this draft. Considering what Tynes and Feagles are...it would not be wise to not dip into this talent pool.
Zoltan Mesko...great name...why not?
Tho..probably not. I doubt they draft a kicker...so probably another OL or DL would be wise.
Round 7- Probably just BPA. Another safety would be wise...but a LB would be smart too. Maybe Brandon James if they miss out on McCluster if he's there? Maybe they go K/P here if they like one? I doubt that any position would be out of the question at this point.
I'll add that if they do trade down, and get an extra 3-5th rounder, that there may be a K/P in there.
So...any objections? No clue who I'm talking about? Ask...I'll post a link and give my 2 Cents....
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he would be awesome for the Wildcat
he beat Michigan and outplayed Joe Flacco in the 1-AA National Championship as a sophomore, and he’s fast as hell.
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he'd be nice...
maybe a Josh Cribbs type a guy.
He’d be a 5-7th rounder hopefully..dunno how teams are gonna value a player like that, especially with the success of Cribbs.
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I see you've come around on Spikes.
If he’s available in the second? We gotta grab him.
I hate picking DBs in the first. But…I see where your’e coming from.
I saw the same film you did of Dexter McCluster. Holy moly is he fast.
I don’t know anything about Zoltan, but…ZOLTAN!
And From The Department of Juvenile Humor:
I think they’ll sign a FA RT to compete with Kareem McKenzie.
(We already have plenty of farts.)
I left my swagger in my other pants.
not really come around on Spikes...
I know he’s good player…just on the fence about him.
In round one…I dunno. But round 2, I don’t think they could go wrong.
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I'm good with that.
I just figure we probably won’t trade away our 1st round pick entirely, so get as much help in the middle of the D as possible. I’d be happy with a NT, MLB or good S.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
one of the reasons..
is that Spikes isn’t really a ‘sideline to sideline MLB’, he’s not a good man to man coverage guy (kinda of important…I’d rather get a player who can cover…).
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 4, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'm on board with you there
It’s very important for our MLB to be able to cover. Watching AP these couple of years was disturbing. Even if Goff isn’t up to the task, we still need some coverage skills to the second level. I will say though, if Spikes has a history of injuries, i’m not definitely sold!
having had the pleasure
of watching zoltan play here at the u of m, i would be ecstatic if the g-men signed zoltan. he has ridiculous leg strength AND accuracy.
he’s also a great story, refugee from romania, spent the first few years of his life in a bullet-riddled apartment during the romanian revolution.
not sure if they’re ready to cut ties with feagles just yet though. i would bet if they draft a p/k it would be a kicker
Feagles is shot tho..
I mean, it was pretty apparent this year.
I do think he got hurt a couple times trying to tackle someone..but maybe a big punter who can tackle, a young athletic dude who happens to be 6"5 230lbs like ZOLTAN..would be a good get?
You know better then me…does Zoltan kick off?
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 4, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
As a college student...
I watch a ton of college football…probably more than I should…If the draft goes the way FB put it, I’d be real happy.
That being said, if Earl Thomas declares, he’ll be a hot commodity…Kansas City, Seattle (who picks twice before us), Cleveland, Jacksonville, Oakland, Denver, and San Francisco all could use safety help, and the only safety I see being picked before Thomas is Eric Berry (Taylor Mays sucks…all he is is a workout warrior. He hits hard, but is never in position to make a play and is about as good in coverage as one of the safeties we currently employ, but I choose not to name haha). Of course, Al Davis will probably draft Mays because…well, he’s Al Davis.
Other potential candidates in our draft range includes my dream pick Rolando McClain, ILB from Alabama and Joe Haden, CB from Florida and the best CB in the draft. If either of these two are available, they’d definitely be the BPA. Another interesting choice could be Bruce Campbell or Anthony Davis, both are projected 1st round tackles. I know that the defense needs major overhauling, but this entire season I’ve seen a slow, kinda depressing decay in the performance of the o-line. I totally agree with FreeBradshaw in that we should trade down if we can…perhaps drop down to say 23-24 and pick up Anthony Davis and an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder? Whaddya guys think?
I can also see Brandon Spikes falling to the second round. I believe we pick 46th and depending on the combine, I could see him falling to us ala Rey Maulaga as mentioned before. Maulaga is an enforcer over there in Cincy, and if nothing else, his violent hitting can be enough to pump some life into their defense and it shows by how improved they are this year. If anything, Spikes, who led a fantastic Florida defense, could infuse some energy into a defense that has called it quits two weeks before the 09 season ended.
As far as defensive tackles go, many of us are forgetting Jay Alford who went on IR earlier in the year. We still have him, and perhaps Barry Cofield and Chris Canty. I say dump Bernard and Robbins. I think we could go grab a DT later like D’Anthony Smith from Louisana Tech.
I disagree on the pick of Dexter McCluster. Jerry Reese is not one to follow the crowd, and our experiments with the direct snap haven’t ended up working. Also, in our division, the wildcat is just a fail…look at Vick in Philly. I say go for the DT in the 3rd round, or perhaps an OLB/DE hybrid. A nice one is Sergio Kindle out of Texas that could be in our draft range.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2010 5:22 PM EST reply actions
I see what your saying on the wildcat...
I think the main problem is…there is no one to run it.
Mike Vick is NOT a Wildcat player…he’s QB.
McCluster ran a TON of Wildcat at Ole Miss. The whole wildcat thing is not why I want him…its really cuz of the fact he’s just a weapon..and really, not a bad pure RB if you use him right (kinda like Darren Sproles…).
He’s a tough guy too..I mean he’s not gonna run anyone over..but he’s a tough guy.
There’s just no one in the division that does it.
McCluster is pretty much built to do it..he’s done in plenty in college, and learned under the guy who basically was the “architect” of it (or at least ’brought it back") with Houston Nutt.
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Gotcha
Yeah, true, a pure speed back would be a rather nice complement to our running game…especially because we need to get back towards balancing our offense, which has become a little too pass heavy. however, and correct me if I’m wrong, i feel as if the positional value doesn’t really match up that early. A DT or LB would provide a lot more positional value at the 3rd round, whereas running backs can be found with little to no dropoff from the 3rd round to 6th round. Our very own Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw are testaments to that.
I wouldn’t be unhappy if the Giants took an RB that early, but I guarantee you that out of the following RBs: Toby Gerhart, Jonathon Dwyer, Evan Royster, Ryan Matthews, and Anthony Dixon…at least a couple will be found in round 4 or beyond. If I were Jerry Reese, I wouldn’t go RB in the first two rounds unless Spiller or Best are available. especially Spiller…he could electrify the Gmen the same way that Harvin has done with the vikes.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
I agree there...
I guess with McCluster, its more of just a dream..cuz there is no doubt Gilbride will be clueless on what to do with him.
I wouldn’t object to any of the RB’s you mentioned. LeGarrett Blount was mentioned too, and he’d be fine too. Probably Ryan Matthews is the best option…he’s the best combo of size, speed and power. The guy had 276, 1806 and 19TD’s. No matter where you play…that’s good.
I guess overall it depends on what they do. Do they trade down?
If not, what did they do with the first and 2nd rounders?
Also, who’s there in the 3rd round?
If they get a DT and S already in round 1-2, but there’s really no LB worthy of taking in round 3 that wouldn’t be there in round 4….why not someone like McCluster?
I mean, ideally, Jahvid Best falls right into their lap in round 3. I doubt it, cuz he may go round one…
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Well...
this is how I rank our needs:
1) S
2) MLB
3) DT
4) OT
5) RB
It all depends on free agency. We are going to fix one of these issues via free agency. Many believe we’d get someone like DeMeco Ryans for our MLB spot. However, assuming we don’t, i was assuming that we would pick Earl Thomas number 1 and Brandon Spikes number 2. I just looked up McClusters stats and no doubt they’re impressive, but we could probably pick up a DT or OLine 3rd as well…
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
I'd have no problem with that...
well, there’s also the fact that McCluster could be available in the 4th…..
Or if they do indeed trade down, with their 2nd 3rd rounder.
Really…there’s just too many needs to argue with really any postion on defense, maybe aside from a CB (whice with TT, Webster and Ross..they’re pretty set… I guess)
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Sigh
“here’s just too many needs to argue with really any postion on defense”
Sigh, can’t we just trade Osi to Jerry Jones or Al Davis and get all their draft picks in return? i’m sure they’d do it.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
I know running back might not be our biggest need
but if CJ Spiller is available at our pick we have to draft him. Living 15 minutes away from Clemson I’ve had the pleasure to watch CJ Spiller these past 4 years and he is the real deal.
Funny you mention McCluster. Even though I’m from Clemson, I am an Ole Miss fan at heart and McCluster is like Spiller..Lightning in a bottle. Either of them could replace Ward (who I feel we sorely missed). And if Bradshaw never gets 100%, we will have a capable replacement for him as well.
What I love about McCluster is he runs very well between the tackles for his size. CJ Spiller isn’t as good up the middle but that could be because of Clemson’s offensive line.
Both guys are do-everything home run threats.
yea...
McCluster just is THAT dude.
The best thing is…I doubt they’ll have to spend a first rounder or even 2nd rounder on him (I think and hope…)
I like Spiller..and Jahvid Best both.
But to pass up on a guy like Thomas..and potentially Spikes (getting both…damn) in the first 2..they need D!
McCluster gives them probably what Best and Spiller could. He just falls in the draft, cuz he’s just a small guy.
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i believe it's quite apparent
the Giants will draft a RB at some point in the draft. Ware is out, his time is done. Who knows what Jacobs and Bradshaw will be in the future with their injuries. Add Andre Brown to that mix too as he has been injured his whole HS/College/Pro career. They have to take a back.
Spiller is awesome
I went to the Clemson-UMD game this year, and he had one of the most amazing runs I’ve ever seen, literally carrying a player for a few yards and then breaking away for a long TD.
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LeGarrette Blount
…reminds me of Derrick Ward and will probably be a late pick.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
I like L.Blount...
think he’s better then where he’ll get drafted..so potentially a good value.
But I dunno about you…I want the Giants to get FASTER.
Blount…he’s more like Jacobs actually. 6"2 240+lbs, he’s a big dude.
Jahvid Best…here’s another one, Noel Devine from WVU, he’s a little dude, but damn is he fast.
They don’t need power backs.
Not only do they have one (supposedly…), but Bradshaw is pretty much a power guy too, he’ll hit people.
AB’s fast..yea, but I haven’t seen that breakaway burst since the Buffalo game in 07.
They need SPEED.
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hahahaha
What part of Blount’s game reminds you of derrick ward? Ward was a great pass catcher, and was a guy that had good feet and quickness.
Blount is a power back. He loves to crash pads, and throw punches.
Ward used to like the contact, too.
…and I’m not sure how long either Brandon or Ahmad are for this game. They run so recklessly, either one could be done tomorrow. But you’re right – Blount is more like Jacobs than Ward. I just think of Ward ‘cause he’s a little closer in size. I’m for speed. Speed is good. McCluster. Best. Brandon James.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
I posted this in the other topic but you can all read it again
This is my dream draft if Reese doesn’t choose to trade up for Berry
1st round – Brian Price (a 3-technique DT, somebody who can get in the backfield)
2nd round – Chad Jones (safety, we just have to upgrade the position regardless of KP21)
3rd round – Daryl Washington ( a promising MLB, he can compete with Goff for the job. He will be a late 2nd, early 3rd round pick and I think Reese would be smart to try to draft him whether he will draft up or down)
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 4, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions
I like that...
First off, I still don’t understand why trading up for Berry is an idea. Yea..he’s good, maybe great. But Earl Thomas, Morgan Burnett…there’s even potential there for Taylor Mays and Chad Jones to be good players. There’s no sense in moving up.
Wouldn’t you rather them take Earl Thomas AND Daryl Washington…instead of just Eric Berry?
..as for those 3 rounds, Like em all.
Its basically all about where they are and who’s there.
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I just think that Berry
could be a dominant player at his position. A once in a decade talent. A perennial Pro-Bowler. Someone who everybody knows and fears, like LT in the 80s or Derrick Thomas in the 90s…
Earl Thomas, eh, he could be a solid safety but thats it.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 4, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
fair enough on Berry.
Tho I disagree with you on Thomas.
He’s just not as hyped up right now as Berry.
Guys like Polamalu and Reed were not all that hyped about in their respective drafts.
Not saying Thomas will be HOF caliber like them…but he certainly posses the same traits as those guys did coming out of college.
Playmaker, smart, fast, QB of the defense.
For real…Earl Thomas may be no worse at all then Berry. Watch him in the BCS champ game.
He’s just a bit under the radar at this point.
Its even possible that #15 is not high enough for him!
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Thomas is from Texas though
the most over hyped college program in the nation…you really think everyone wouldn’t be all over him if he looked as good?
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 4, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think the idea is..
that he’s a redshirt sophmore and no one knows if he’s really entering.
I don’t really go by how overhyped UT is…I mean, Aaron Ross, if he’d ever stay on the field consistently, would be a solid to very good player.
Ever since the idea was entertained that he’d even consider the draft, Thomas in every mock draft was placed in the first round, usually in the top 20.
From the few times I saw UT..he stood out in the secondary.
Its only one game…but we’ll all get a general idea of him after the BCS game.
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The thing with UT
is that it plays in the Big 12 which is infamous for playing absolutely no defense. Therefore, when a defensive player in the Big 12 IS heralded, i think they’re legit. Thats why I think alot of big 12 offensive players have a greater possibility of busting, because they could simply be a product of a great offensive system. See Vince Young, Chase Daniel, and Graham Harrell, though VY is making a comeback…
Similarly, with the SEC and the offense. The SEC is known for strong defense, so an offensive player that makes waves is less likely to bust…look at knowshon moreno and percy harvin. Defensive players have a higher chance to bust at the pro level that come from the SEC because it seems as if EVERYONE does well. That’s why you see so many SEC defenders rated so highly. Of course, this isn’t a hard and fast rule, and there will always be exceptions…like Corey Webster who turned out pretty well outta LSU….and the all time great JaMarcus Russell outta LSU that’s tearing it up over in Oakland lol.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of it is the way the team plays on that side of the ball.
There’s no doubt the fact that UNC has a pro-style offense, that is a big reason why Nicks stepped in and did so well.
I don’t think you can go wrong with a heralded UT defensive player…well, unless you’re the Raiders with Michael Huff, but they don’t really count now do they?
We’ll see. I’d rather not go and choose or not choose a player based on the school they went to.
If the scouts do their HW..and I’m fairly confident that JR and his henchmen do theirs…I can’t argue with his picks.
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Definitely agree with you...
JR isn’t the type to do that, but you know that some of the lesser teams take school rep and flashiness wayyyyy more than they should cough dan snyder cough cough
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
washington
i love this guy… but he will not fall past the 2nd round. They need to get the safety in the first then if necessary trade up in the 2nd to get this kid. He IS what the D is missing. Good instincts, quickness, hits hard, shoots the gaps on runs, and he’s fast for the position.
I can only hope this guy is wearing blue next year.
as for the rest I leave that up to men far more intellegent than myself
I like
Big fan of Brian Price.
Would also consider Dan Williams of Tenn. We can bring in a 3-4 D Coordinator. Move Kiwi and Umen to the OLB positions. Have tuck and Canty play the Ends…
Good $$
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufiiaeex0_s
Not the smartest guy. But very likable.
The "T" on his helmet
…stands for “Knowledge.”
But seriously…we might oughta pick him. He can play.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
I like Dan Williams...
tho I disagree on the 3-4.
Yea, Canty can do it…Tuck..probably too. But he’s better as a DE in a 4-3.
He’s a pass rusher.
Dan Williams would be A-OK for the Giants, even in the 3-4.
He plays at Tennesse, under Monte Kiffen. Kiffen’s probably doint the whole Tampa 2 thing, so Williams is playing like the Buccaneers DT’s, meaning NOT a nose tackle, a pass rusher.
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Yeah but the kid..
If our plan is to stay in the 4-3 mold id put Price ahead of Williams.
I think a guy like Everson Griffen is a boy that can play DT or DE in a 4-3 as well.
I'd say Dan Williams
is a lot like Pat Williams.
Just cuz he’s a big dude (well..big for a DT) and a NT, doesn’t mean he doesn’t fit a 4-3.
I like Price too. I’d have no problem they get him.
Its just Big Dan Williams is a run stuffer, that’s also not bad getting to the QB either.
Brian Price is more of a pass rusher, but he’s decent against the run.
I think with Cofield probably back and then Alford coming back, that’s enough “small” DT.
I’d rather a big, strong tough bastard like Williams.
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Cofield is not a small DT
he is a run stuffer type as well
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 4, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you...
Cofield is listed at 306.
Brian Price is 6"2 300lbs, so there.
Dan Williams is listed at 326lbs…but he’s a lot more or a porker then that.
Cofield’s probably bigger too…but I doubt he’s Dan Williams size.
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Our run defense has been SO inconsistent
that you just cant be sure whether were good at it or not…. On the other hand we know that our DT’s haven’t pushed the pocket all year and that we haven’t been able to pressure the QB from the interior line so that is why I feel were better off drafting a pass rushing DT/
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 4, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
can't argue at all...
I’d love to get a DT that stops the run and can rush the passer!
I guess overall it depends on what exactly the DT can do?
From what I’ve seen Price is more of a pass rusher, while Williams is more of a run stuffer, but he’s also pretty good at getting to the QB.
….so overall, I like Williams, at least right now. We’ll see as the offseason goes along.
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I'd love to get a big, fat run-stuffer
like williams. Call me crazy, but I feel like we have enough talented pass rushers. Kiwanuka, Tuck, Umeniyora, Sintim, Canty…they all are pash rush specialists. Sure it didn’t show this year, but the reason for that was that there was ZERO push along the defensive front, and thats due to the ineptitude of rocky bernard and fred robbins.
We need a massive run stuffer that not only solidifies the inside, but can take on double teams and plug up the middle. Our most effective blitzes were A-gap blitzes, between the G and the C…and a huge run stuffer will blow up those areas for our pass rushing LBs to come in. Taking up a double team will free up our edge rushers as well. Need proof? Look at none other than Albert Haynesworth, the prototypical fat guy that stuffs the middle and gets a great push to allow the peeps around him to do better.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I've been saying
stop the run and it makes the pass defense better
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
yup..
And Williams isn’t exactly a pile of crap when it comes to pass defense either.
He can rush the pass himself. He can also take up blockers.
I mean..I have no problem with Brian Price at all either.
I guess we’ll see who Reese likes, cuz in all likelihood, BOTH will be there at pick #15.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 4, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
It's pretty telling
that we all collectively don’t have much of a problem with ANY of the various names mentioned in this fanpost. We just need some new blood.
Jerry Reese = Omar Minaya?
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 4, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Something to ponder
The Niners’ Aubrayo Franklin is a FA this year. He’s pretty good.
I left my swagger in my other pants.
Daryl Washington
Will be around the same time as Pat Angerer, Pat is my boy and i think he will be a pro-bowl linebacker in the nfl. His instincts are surreal even if his measurables are slightly lacking.
Like dan williams alot actually however......
fittin that bill or any of our holes with the right vet free agent isn’t bad,RICHARD SEYMOUR anyone?Agree about getting a big guy to go along with our small DT’s is something I’d agree with.I think we’ll come to realize most of this can be pinned on Sheridan.We need someone who we know guys will play 4/can be led by
Seymour
would get resigned or franchise tagged for sure
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 4, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Seymour would be a great addition.
but like McClaren says…there’s a slim chance he’s available.
The Raiders gave up a 1st rounder in 2011 for him…Davis will probably retain him.
…tho that’s not a bad thing. I doubt Seymour WANTS to stay in Oakland, so the only way that happens is by Franchising him.
That will leave Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard….Either of which could be the answer to the Giants LB woes..available for bidding.
Its gonna be an interesting offseason..to say the least.
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He might get tagged but he doesnt want to stay there
KMorrison is an RFA maybe we could grab him…..also S OJ Atogwe from STL or I dont know but Jerry needs to get some FA’s to fill in some gaps no matter what you think about the mixed bag of Free Agency,hey we’ll still build from the draft but thats a crapshoot to….we have alot of needs…this is going to make me really sick if the cowboys take the SB
Not many disagreements here
Round 1: they need to take a stud, period. Don’t care if its on O or D. Would prefer to see them draft a S or DT.
Round 2: I like Navorro Bowman too. Can’t argue with taking a LB from Linebacker U and he looked pretty good in the slop of the Capital One Bowl.
Round 3: you know how I feel about McCluster. I don’t care about the Wildcat, get the ball in his hands and I can only see good things happening. I’m interested to see what he clocks at the combine. I know he’s faster than everyone on OK State, but more importantly he looked pretty darn tough running between the tackles.
Later Rounds I’m not sold on drafting kickers, unless its really late.
How many months till the draft?
We have the 15th pick?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
I'm actually surprised
I thought we’d be on the 16+ side of the board
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
I think if the Jets lost..
it was 17 or 18.
That they won, its 15.
I guess its consolation for the Jets being in the playoffs….
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 4, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
That's absolutely no consolation
All these people who’ve suddenly “become” Jets “fans” at my school are freaking annoying.
Go Cincy
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
yes..small consolation..
but there’s no doubt I’ll always root against these A-Holes.
I’ve heard about enough of them “closing Giants stadium the right way”…
N8 !
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 4, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
check out the ProDraftParty channel on youtube....they show hi/lowlights...
We can watch lineman highlights on there.Get me line of scrimmage domination,JR!Sux that our offseason is making us so excited i always get like this when the season is over.You guys are great!Lets evaluate this thing and…..oh I’m just gonna go and watch Mike Iupati highlights now……
Iupati?
another interesting name…
6’6 330?
he’s an OG tho..and he’d probably have to be had in round 1..
He could be a Steve Hutchinson Guard tho……
N8 !
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 4, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
positions needed
Team needs another CB, 2 Safeties, 2 LB’s, DT, OT and RB. Obviously won’t get all in the draft. I’d pick out the two most glaring positions and pay FA’s for those spots. FA’s that will start. Then draft for the other positions.
jonathan dwyer
is another rb that is a very talented. I think he should be available in the ~3rd round
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 5, 2010 8:17 PM EST reply actions
For those who want to play around with a little Wildcat
What about Tebow to run the wildcat while he learns the NFL Quaterback position from Manning.
I dunno...
I mean, that’s probably a legit idea. I don’t even know about the McCluster thing, cuz Gilbride until proven otherwise is the OC for 2010.
It makes zero sense to go and get a Wildcat player with Gilbride as the OC….Zero.If they got a OC who was a bit more innovative, sure why not.
Personally I think Tebow is more of a RB anyway, so its got a shot. He’s probably well off the board tho by the time I’d like the Giants to draft him tho.
Nothing earlier then third round is when I’d take a chance on him…and even that’s pushing it.
He’s probably long gone before then tho. Its not out of the question some fool team takes him in round one.
N8 !
Tebow will be taken in Rd 1
…by the Jacksonville Jaguars. They need to sell tickets, and I hear Tebow is like God over in Florida. He’s not a very good draft selection, but a perfect financial decision.
Also, there are reports that the owners have collectively agreed to let Tebow fall to JVille.
Jerry Reese = Omar Minaya?
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 5, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
For the Jaguars fans sake..
I hope they stay as far away from that idea as possible.
I really have no idea who’s brain fart came out with this idea in the first place…but it makes no sense.
I mean, if Tebow was this prototype NFL QB and was a Florida Gator going to the Jags…then why not.
…but Tebow is far from that. No one has a clue what exactly he is. RB..TE..wildcat QB…Pro QB?
No one knows. He’s a project.
The Jaguars are a pretty good football team in need of some better players on defense…a DE like Derrick Morgan makes sense.
The idea just seems like it has a higher bust % then the likelihood that Tebow is an actual NFL QB.
N8 !
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 5, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
theres a good chance this could happen
the Jags had alot of blackout games. But the real problem for the Jags is college football. Florida loves its college football and alot more people care about the Gators and Noles then the Jags and Fins
Draft the way I see it
We need linebackers bad. 1st Brandon Spikes, 2nd Rey Maualuga, 3rd Aaron Curry but brandon is a guy you can build off of, speed power football smart remind you of a past chicago linebacker( look into my eyes)
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