Sunday Playoff Open Thread
by Ed Valentine on Jan 17, 2010 12:30 PM EST
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PrintHere is your Open Thread for today's playoff games.
Cowboys vs. Vikings (1 p.m. ET) -- Remember Miss Manners (I mean CJ's) rooting etiquette for this one. Hate Brett Favre all you want. Under no circumstances, however, can you root for the Dallas Cowboys. Can't do it and call yourrself a Giants fan.
Jets vs. Chargers (4:40 p.m. ET) -- My own rooting etiquette for this one is that you cannot root for the New York Jets. A Philip River-Peyton Manning shootout in the AFC Championship Game would be kinda fun, wouldn't it?
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How Bout Dem Cowboys!
I can be the first to tell you that I BLEED Giants blue but I can’t seem to shake the comparison of the 2007 Giants to the 2009 Cowboys. If you look at how hot they got at the end of the season, the way they are running the ball and how impressive the defense is playing. Today is going to be a big test for the Cowboys but I think they neutralize Adrian Peterson and the running game and get enough pressure on Brett Farve which will cause him to throw INT’s. The Cowboys win this game today 28-17 and beat Saints at their place, but lose to Manning and the Colts in SB 31-21 just my opinion, oh! Manning SB XLIV MVP.
Agree
Hate to say it but yea Dallas has that look the Giants had in 07 . . . struggled a bit early but came together and became a complete team at the right time. With that said, lets go VIkes!
No besmirching the Giants
by comparing them to the Cowboys in any way, shape, form, or fashion.
Cowboys can’t even hold onto the ball in this game, something that the Super Bowl Giants did throughout the playoffs into the Super Bowl. And the Giants did it with everyone, and I mean everyone, against them.
We didn't even have a chance for the "perfect season", but we did have the perfect ending.
Thank god...
You have no idea what your typing about… lol HOW BOUT DEM COWGIRLS!
All's Well that Fewell
by gobs56 on Jan 17, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is a very tough playoff season for Giants fans.
You got the Jets, Cowgirls, and the Vikings with Favre. I just hope none of them make it to the Super Bowl.
Vikes
Why are we suppose to hate Farve as Giants fans?? Yall have lost me on this, He gave Strahan the sack record, loved it too, then he through a pick in OT to get us to the superbowl where we did nothing but beat the best offense ever in the 18-0 Pats… Why the hate???
All's Well that Fewell
Some people don't like Favre
for his his flip flopping.
It’s annoying, but I have no problem with Favre. In fact, I fully believe if he wins the Superbowl he’ll retire on top.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Awful Awful day
My predictions. Cowboys 27-17. Favre throws 3 or 4 picks and plays awful.
Jets 24-21. Just to piss us Giant fans off. No other reason.
The way the season has gone why would champioship Sunday be enjoyable?
hate it
Hate that Dallas resembles us in 07…I don’t care for Favre…but maybe just maybe he will have flash backs to his prime yrs…I see Visante having a huge game today…
I don’t wanna root for the jets, but the way I see it , if I don’t get the hot chick.my roomate might as well….
i dunno maybe I just like the colors
by Mr.Williams on Jan 17, 2010 12:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Stop comparing the 09 Cowboys to the 07 Giants
The only similarities are in the head coaches and the QB. People were bashing both Coughlin and Eli like they were bashing Wade and Romo. That’s it.
Let’s see Tony Romo win without his #2 RB Felix Jones and his #1 TE Jason Witten like Eli won w/o Ward and Shockey. The Cowboys have been the healthiest team in the NFL this season. The Giants, as I’ve already mentioned, were not the healthiest team in 2007. The Giants weren’t playing well heading into the playoffs. They were 1-2 with a bad loss to Washington while the Cowboys entered the playoffs on a 3-game winning streak with a win at previously 13-0 New Orleans. Nobody said that Giants were a hot team and were dangerous in 2007. I don’t think the Giants were favored in any of their playoff games. The Cowboys have had people on their bandwagon since beating Philly in Week 17. Many people are picking them to make the Super Bowl, if not win it all. The Giants were a Wild Card team and played all road games. The Cowboys won the division and got their first game at home. The 2007 Giants’ defense was 17th in points allowed per game. The 2009 Cowboys’ defense is 9th. Nobody ever called the Giants the most talented team in the NFL. I hear that being discussed about the Cowboys all the time.
by GhostDini on Jan 17, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
2007 Giants are the 2007 Giants.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
I make the comparison based on how complete both teams are durring the playoffs.
Once Eli started playing with consistancy that team had it all, the D, the running game, the skill players. Dallas seems just as well rounded this year and both teams needed playoff wins badley and were not highly regarded going into the year.
Your points are well taken about the injuries and media hype. The 07 Giants were just as talented as any other team in the league that year espcially once Eli started playing to his potential but the “experts” acted like they were a college team. Dallas wins two games and all of the sudden they go from average to the most talented team in the history of the NFL so yea from a hype stand point I see wear your comming from the Giants did not get overhyped until two years later after a SB win and a 12-4 season while Dallas gets it with one win. But take all of that crap away and you have two talented complete teams playing up to their potential so thats what I’m looking at and thats wear my comparison comes from.
yea...
but think about how they went into the playoffs….
The Giants beat Buffalo and lost to the 16-0 Patriots (but played well…).
The Cowboys have been playing as good as any team in the NFL going into the Playoffs.
They won the division. They are basically completely healthy.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
I know
Like I said I’m not trying to make an exact comparison the Giants did not come on until the playoffs that year while Dallas did in mid December this year so yea there are differences but like I said earlier they were both teams with a lot of talent and were well rounded in all areas that were considered 3rd place teams going into the season that had a lot of pressure on them to win a playoff game. Both teams when they put it all together are really good and do a lot of the same things well. Rush the QB, stuff the run, run the ball, big plays to big play wideouts.
I know you can’t make exact comparisons no team will ever be the 07 G-men but l compare teams from different years based on how their style of play and the 07 G-Men and 09 Cowboys are similar. Just like the 90’s Bills remind me of the 2000’s Colts with the offesnsive styles.
fair enough...
I see your point.
Its just…I kinda take it like a kick in the balls to compare this Cowboy team to the Giants run.
The fact they were division winners and really, among all these “analysts” are the favorites in the NFC at this point (and really, deservedly so) makes the comparion not all that valid anyway.
The Giants were picked against by everyone (almost) in every game.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
It's amazing though
the Cowboys play well in a couple of games and all of a sudden they are the most talented team ever.
The Giants or any other team for that matter in the league play well for a few games nobody talks about their talent. Thats what pissed me off in 07 man for man they were as good as anyone (especailly Dallas or GB) they justed needed Eli to put it together and they were elite yet nobody saw that the only difference in the 07 postseason and the regular season was Eli’s constant, mistake free, clutch play
Every game
We were picked against
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
yup.
there was maybe 2 times where someone picked the Giants.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Even Tampa?
I was like WTF, how in the hell did anyone think Tampa was going to beat us that year. That was the one game I was almost 100% confident in. Tampa lost like 4 straight and played decent D and no O and won a weak division I mean Dallas and GB ran away with the 1 and 2 seeds that year but outside of them the Giants were clearly the 3rd best team in the NFC going into the playoffs, I mean Wash, Seattle and TB I mean that was ridiculous.
I remember
on yahoo at least, all 3 or 4 analysts picked against us on every game.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Ditka loved big blue that year
But everyone else was: they can never defeat Jeff Garcia…
DB
by DukBudr on Jan 17, 2010 8:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Meant to agree w ghostdini. Stop the useless comparision with 2k7 giants. Pokes are on their way out today.
LarryHarryCarlPepper
by gr8kicks on Jan 17, 2010 1:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
A Dallas loss
And the look on Jerry Jones’ face, priceless!
by Hootman on Jan 17, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
you took the words out of my mouth
These guys are Cowboys fans, I have never seen anything like it how excited they get to do Cowboys games.
It’s terrible they are the worst.
Remember how Summeral and Madden always seemed to love every really good team and showed eaqual levels of excitement and dished out equal levels of praise for both teams. Not only that Summeral and Madden had very good knowledge of all teams not just one. Summeral and Madden loved the Giants, Niners, Bears, Skins in the 80’s all of them. Buck and Aikman root for Dallas, they know everything about the Cowboys but are not very knowledgeable at all of other teams other than the obvjous.
isn't amazing that their Cowboy love even overtakes the Farve man crush?
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
I love how Marion Barber celebrates like he just won the SB after a 5yd carry....
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Suisham
makes Tynes look awesome.
This is why you don’t cut kickers unless you know you’re getting someone good.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Nick Folk had to be reallly really bad to cut him in favor of this guy...
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
HAHA..
that laughing the Cowboys heard from hundreds of miles away was Nick folk laughing.
by sexyscottish on Jan 17, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Another Reason to root for the Vikings
If the Vikings make the Superbowl, Steve Smith will go to the probowl.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Ochocinco plays in the AFC......
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
OK that's a good start....
And I have to admit, one helluva throw by Favre.
Our front seven can be just as good
When we are healthy. The Cowboys have been very lucky to avoid the injury bug this season. One reason why they are playing right now.
well yea...
its getting me misty and nostalgic.
I remember when they used introduce Romo to the turf even more then this….
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Aikman and Buck can fellate the Pokes drives all they want
Romo’s getting planted on every throw.
Lets see if it catches up.
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Cutting Suisham
is the only thing Dan Snyder has done that had playoff results
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
by greg a on Jan 17, 2010 1:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hey look at that...
pass rush = you can do anything Tony.
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I love it
it seems every play Romo’s been getting hit.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
yup.
hmm…..lets compare the Vikings to the 2007 Giants for a second!
….well just this part; they are smacking the SHT out of Romo on almost every pass.
Even if he completes it…it pays in the end.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
It's so funny wathcing other teams
having success on D.
I watched the Colts last night and thought maybe we should get saftey DB help but watching the Vikings now I’m back to get the big stud in the middle so the QB can’t step up and make him uncomfortable like MInny’s doing.
Its hilarious how much a Dallas player
Austin, Barber, Jenkins…these guys celebrate like they scored a TD after every play.
I know other players do it…but these guys too far. Its hilarious to see it backfire the next play too!
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See:
AP runs for a first down..gets up, goes back to the huddle.
If Marion Barber did that he’d act like he hit the lottery…
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
that's because these guys
don’t know how it feels to ever win the big one – and I hope it stays that way for a long time…that way they can keep looking like schmucks :-)
Opus smart , lascivio magis , intereo gauisus...
"It's hard to score on Dallas close up
so you ought to try and do in from a ways out"
Troy Aikman calling the game from the Cowboys perseptective, ass
that one was priceless.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
TD!
Watching Dallas lose is always fun.
No interceptions Favre
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
GO VIKINGS!!!
Bloggin boys
has everyone cryin in thier beer right now hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
Boo flag
But yeah Dallas getting desperate if they’re resorting to laterals on kick offs already.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TO!!!
FARVINGS BALL!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow
amazing how much noise you can get in a dome. They are even drowning out Buck and Aikman.
Jared Allen's dance is so stupid
but I hope we see it some more
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Aikman sounds like someone just pissed in his Cherrios.
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So how long do we have to wait ..........
Before the fat guy gets
FIRED!!!
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
Listen to how excited Buck gets
when Romo escapes pressure and makes a play,
I think he’s worse than Aikman
He had a first down
but they did not snap the ball. That sucks for the Boys.
I forgot he was still playing when Reeves was coaching
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
LOL!
on BTB…
the thought is the keep beating themselves.
…typical.
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They were going nuts
on the center (not going to try to spell it) not snapping the ball on the off-sides, but he wasn’t looking that way, I’m really not sure what he was supposed to do.
"You don't want to say Hail Mary in these Parts"
Aikman once again calling the game from a Cowboys persepctice. Minny’s up 17-3 it’s a lot different than it was in 76 Troy
If Dallas does lose this one...
I wonder if these two will even do next weeks NFC champ game.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
they had to do our super bowl
unfortunately
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 17, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
"Romo has WR wide open"-Jimmy Johnson.
..trying…TRYING his best to calm the Cowpoke faithful down…
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Thats exactly what every Cowboy lover Giant hater said in 07
Who cares if you can’t block the front 4 thats how Minny’s D works pressure!
FATzell getting hurt
is at least payback for ruining tuck’s (and our whole defenses) season
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 17, 2010 2:41 PM EST reply actions
I am SHOCKED
there was no uneccessary roughness. Not that it was deserved, as it was not whistled down well, but still, that was a QB and means they shoot th guy who hit him.
WOOOOOOOOOOW...
Looks like the refs got the call to help Dallas as much as possible again.
by sexyscottish on Jan 17, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Thats a bad No call on Harvin
Jerry Jones paying off the comish it’s amazing how the league wants Dallas to win.
you know...
using his money wisely this time?
Instead of buying NFC championship tickets for the players families at halftime….
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think he at least told em about it at halftime...
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Don't like how this is beginning for the Cowboys, I want them out now
"We're only going to score 17 points?"
well..2009
NYG.
That was a 2007 NYG!!!
YEA!!!
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
lets just leave it at
they are the 2009 cowboys and (hopefully) won’t win another playoff game
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 17, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
People were syaing 2007 G-Men earlier
I was just pointing out they are far more similiar to the debacle of the Giants play-off game from last year.
WAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!
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love when something bad happens
and they cut to that fat POS.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL!!!
I can’t get enough of this crap.
..look at Anthony Spencer going off after that stop…
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Thank You Redskins...
Best move you made all year was cutting Suisham!!
AWOOOOOOOOOO
AWOOOOOOOOO
I love that vikings horn
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 17, 2010 3:03 PM EST reply actions
That was lucky for the coverage guy
that the ball went out. He was inside the end zone and would have made a freebie touchback.
We should've played like that.
The Giants’ D-line should’ve played like the way the Vikings’ D-line is playing. We would be in the playoffs if they had.
Leslie Frazier
He’s the guy I’ve been asking to become the next Giants head coach…. Now you see why.
bad timing...
if the Giants are lucky…Perry Fewell is the next HC cuz the GIants play good and Coughlin goes out on top.
But I agree, if they had an opening, Frazier would be as good a choice as any.
Hope he gets the Bills job and turns it around (and beats the Jets and Patriots…)
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I was hoping he'd come to the Giants.
He could be the DC and get promised the HC for when Coughlin’s contract was up.
By the letter of the rules
that was a 5 yarder.
well cause there
was nowhere else to put his foot. The 5 yard call was right though, I would have been annoyed if they called PF.
WTF
Is Buck talking about. Dallas decided to accept the penalty, the Vikings can’t decide if to accept a penalty on them.
Those E-trade babies
are the best thing to happen to TV since Knight Ridger and Magnum PI went off the air. LOL.
He did that pretty well
in the first half (featuring his o-line not showing up of course).
THERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Joe Buck's HR hitter, Felix Jones
has warning track power.
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Yea Aikman...
Romo’s just beating himself….(pause).
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Think Romo has a career in singing??
I think Tony Romo likes that Pants on the Ground song from Idol. He’s doing his own version today…. Balls on the ground…Balls on the ground…lookin like a fumblin fool puttin that ball on the ground…
NAH..
he’ll talk about how Dallas lost the game as opposed to how the Vikings won it.
by sexyscottish on Jan 17, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
its just cuz he's actually talking about the Vikings players
after they make a play.
Usually its just the Poke that is screwing up.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
because
our d-line actually fell back into coverage
by Mother Tucker on Jan 17, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Somewhere T.O. is smiling
and wants to celebrate
But he cant decide between popcorn or Vicodin
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
Both?
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Minny is giving Romo a
BEAT DOWN! yea this is reminding me of 07
Dominating D-line pounding on Dallas’s o-line and eating up ROmo. . .
Wow...
Percey Harvin running with power……
Anyone still against CJ Spiller?
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If our DLine could get to the QB like that
I wouldn’t mind it
unfortunately they couldn’t even breathe on romo and mcnabb this year so its still a No.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 17, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Cowboys/Phillips are losers!
Phillips comment to reporter at halftime.
Q- “What about Romo turning the ball over, getting sacked 4 times?”
A- "Well, at least we are doing the same thing to them! We will be ok!
Huh??
As Ed says, how can u be a Giant fan and rout for Dallas? They will never be a winner in the playoffs with Phillips as the coach!
Minn beats Dallas because of the Vikings D plus Favre…
Jets beat S.D. because Rivers thinks he is a young Favre and will throw key interceptions, turn it over (fumble)
Colts over Jets (How can you bet against a.Manning, especially Peyton)
Minn. over N.O in a mild upset (The NFL is salivating for Favre vs. Manning)
but Brees vs, Manning isn’t bad either…
Super Bowl:
Colts over Vikings in OT…!
by G-Men1958 on Jan 17, 2010 3:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
of course he can...
if the Cowboys were winning he’d dry humping Aikman right now…
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
whenever he says the name albert pujos his voice cracks
"Why should I change my name? He's the one who sucks!" Michael Bolton (Office Space)
by Mother Tucker on Jan 17, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
He got outcoached today badly
by Childress just like he did against TC two years ago.
Jerruha, you clown.
Watching Dallas going down like this
and Philly a week ago and makes you really apprecaite what the Giants did in 07 and no matter how much fans of those teams try and take it away from us by calling it fluke or what not this is just another example of how difficult it is to win a SB and how that Gaint team had something Philly or Dallas never will.
I love when people say that...
or even the one where “it was all the defense”.
They don’t understand cuz A) they’ve never done it in the Eagles case and B) its been so long most of these fans don’t know what its like in the case of the Pokes.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
When they say it was all the D
I always respond, Eli going 9-14 150 yards and 2 TD’s in the fourth quarter of a SB yea that was all D. .. . makes a lot of sense . . . Romo and McNabb just don’t seem to be able to do that and fans of those teams can’t deal with it espcially the philly fan.
Leslie Frazier is going to make one heck of a coach
It baffles me that he hasn’t been given a chance yet. I hope his first job is at place that has a chance to win. I could see him getting a bad job, not doing well, and never getting another shot.
it would really be a joke if he doesn't get it this year.
They said its been 3 straight years he’s been interviewing and passed over.
Makes you wonder if the Rooney rule works at all?
I mean guys like Rex Ryan have panned out…but why did Eric Mangini get a job again?
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Its just..
I think a team like the Steelers would grab a coordinator like Tomlin anyway..regardless of the Rooney rule.
You see the interviews…you don’t see it panning out to actual HC’s being hired.
Frazier’s deserved a HC’ing job these past few years..yet, guys like Mangini, Shanahan even Brad Childress, Jim Zorn….
You do have a point on the smart franchises.
I’d love to see Fewell become the next HC of the Giants when Cough hangs up the headset.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Raheem Morris
got a shot probably because of the Rooney Rule for example. I think a lot of owners hire coaches for non-football reasons, ie. to be a PR/marketing leader of the organization($$$) and as a result feel that a black coach doesn’t work and that role. Smart teams are hiring for football reasons, it’s how you get Jerry Reese as GM and a Tomlin gets hired. I think the situation is better than once was and I think it will continue to improve because the benefits of having a black coach in a league that is 70% black become obvious.
Yea the Rooney rule
is not only good for social reasons (racism and what not)
but also it allows good young coaches who would get looked over becasue they lack expierence to get interviewed. Tomlin is a great example of that. Pittsburgh was dead set on hiring Wisenhunt (which probabbly would have been a good hire anyways) but Tomlin who was not as expierenced as Frazier or even Wisenhunt for that matter was so dam impressive on the interview the Steelers felt like they had to hire him. And it worked out.
Rex Ryan got passed over a lot even for the Ravens job with Harbaugh so hopefully Frazier gets his opp. Seattle probabbly should of waited to hire him and Buffalo should really consider it. He’s a very good young coach.
Lets hope Feweel has the same success Spags has but yea he seems like if he does well he can be the next HC unless he does so well he gets plucked away next year.
I'll also add
that the good franchises are where the coaches want to end up. Do you really want to work for Snyder if your Leslie Fraser? It’s not worse thing in the world if you get passed over and get hired by some place functional down the road.
Thats why Spags did not take
that job after 07, Synder, he thought the Rams were a better job, that talks to what kind of job it is to work with Synder.
0-3 agaist the girls in the playoffs
He has been playin along time
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
I hope they do fire Wade...
I doubt that a new coach is gonna have them playing so much better next season…I mean, they were really playing good this past month.
Jerruh probably doesn’t realize that the playoffs are not a given…if he fires Wade he really takes away from how great those early 90 Poke teams were…cuz what they did is very rare as with the constant success.
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Cowboys have some holes
They’re o-line is not great, there secondary is hit or miss. At times they struggle to run the ball. They got beat by a better football team.
Troy once again talking about things from a Dallas persepective
this is not about the Cowboys anymore Troy!
Seriously stop talking about how they got over the hump and won a playoff game . . . the national audience does not care we care about next weeks matchup and how well MInny and their D played, thats the story. Leslie Frasier outclassed Jason Garret in every way shape and form
I hate Dallas
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by LT's Will Power on Jan 17, 2010 3:54 PM EST reply actions
...and how do you feel
About Dallas? Don’t hold back now.
LarryHarryCarlPepper
by gr8kicks on Jan 17, 2010 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is it asking to much
to hope the Jets play as well as the ’girls did today
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
i dont live in NYC or Jersey...
so i dont have the dislike of the jets like some of you do…i hate philip rivers 10 fold over my hatred for the jets so to me…lets go jets…i would love to se rivers, the cry baby he is, get torched and not even sniff a super bowl
by LT's Will Power on Jan 17, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So how do these Cowbelles..
Compare to the 07 Giants again? LOL
What a F***ing Joke!!!
LarryHarryCarlPepper
by gr8kicks on Jan 17, 2010 3:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
This is piling on now
even if it is the Cowboys.
Who gives a shit?
When have the Cowboys shown an ounce of class in order to deserve another team showing them class?
Please.
by Jonathan. on Jan 17, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAH!!!
Brooking don’t like it!!
RUN IT UUUP!!!!!!!!!
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nuthin wrong with a little pilin now and then
especially against these Asshats
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
I don't care who you are
piling on at this point is uncalled for. I guess having been on the recieving end of a few beatings like this in my high school days I find it rather repulsive personally.
what ever
the cowgirls wuold be doing the same thing
by LT's Will Power on Jan 17, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
So it is fine depending on the team?
It’s not. Going for a TD on 4th and 3 when you are winning by 24 late in a blowout is wrong, NO MATTER WHO DOES IT.
against any other team
It’s bad. When it comes to arrogant Cowgirls it’s fine by me,,
by DoctorK16 on Jan 17, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
its the playoffs.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah the play-offs
game was over at that point. This is not the BCS (which is a brutally broken system, but that is a whole other ball of wax), you don’t need to be dicks to a team that is broken and beat already.
you don't know what was going on down there....
I mean…rewind much of the game and look what almost every Dallas player does after they make a play.
Not a TD…just a random play.
You get what you deserve.
Eventually…the Vikings will get it handed back to them.
…also, you don’t like it…STOP THEM.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
maybe
maybe the cowb*tches should stop them…oh wait they can’t cuz they BLOW!!!!!
by LT's Will Power on Jan 17, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hahahaha
did you see that vein on jones head its about to pop! hahahahahahaha
by LT's Will Power on Jan 17, 2010 4:03 PM EST reply actions
lol
Running up the score is awesome lol
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 4:07 PM EST reply actions
Watching the Cowgirls lose today almost takes away the sting of no playoffs.
The Jets getting blown out would help take the rest away, I think.
;)
Favre and the Vikes have no class BUT
Jerry and the boys deserve it,
Ratliff, Roy Williams, Barber, Miles Austin acting like they won the SB after routine plays Jerry being a jerk Wade never giving the other team credit after losses . . . eff them!
by Landeta on Jan 17, 2010 4:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Amen.
Anyone thinking the Cowgirls didn’t deserve even more piling on is just clueless.
One of the most classless teams of all time suddenly deserving another team showing them class?
Good to know that I am clueless then
but then again I am also a person who believes in respect, even if the ones you pay it to are not ones who do the same. Do unto others.
The Cowboys and certain other people do not fall into that category.
I’m a really nice person, yet I could never see giving the Cowboys an ounce of respect. They don’t show it nor do they deserve it.
by Jonathan. on Jan 17, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They did the same thing to us
in Week 17. Didn’t like it then, don’t like it now. Favre is just going after stats.
The Patriots did it NON -STOP in their run to the SB (of course..didn't get the chance to run up there score there...)
You just play.
Run out the clock when you can.
Why give them even a hint of a chance by giving the ball back?
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
So kick a field FG
which is what all teams would do in that down and distance in a real game situation. They’re going for a TD because they know the game is over and there’s no hope
Mount, we may as well give it up
we are apparently the only two in here that are not turning into the regular NFL fan that permeates the world today. Sad to see that even BBV is not immune to that mindset.
It's sadder to see people like you defending the Cowboys.
Never thought I’d see a day when a Giants fan can feel bad and whine about the Cowboys. My God. How pathetic.
by Jonathan. on Jan 17, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not defending the COwboys
I am saying the Vikings were being grade A jackasses. Don’t put words in my mouth man, it just re-affirms that NFL fan comment from ym previous post that you responded to (ie twisting and trying to add meaning where it does not exist).
nope
you’re defending the cowboys…you’re a cowboys lover
by LT's Will Power on Jan 17, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you forget...
Brad Childress is a Philly Eagle at heart.
You don’t think he LOVES piling on Dallas?
If this was the Giants beating Dallas…I’d want them to do exactly the same thing.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually no
Wining by 24? Kick the FG, make it a four score game without being dicks about it.
Defending yourself against defending the Boys ...
on this site, is like answering the question “is is true you’ve stopped beating your wife”. You can’t win. We all hate Dallas too much.
I hear you on the running it up, though. Might be in part to silence the pundits who all had the Boys winning and rolling on through the Supe.
when we receive it...
i dont think to myself “please stop beating us up oh no they are running up the score, boohoo” i’m thinking f*ck why does our team suck, stop them damn it!!…score a TD if you can… it doesnt matter if the game is "over
by LT's Will Power on Jan 17, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Watch
What are the odds that Buck and Aikman pick Saints over Vikings next week?
Free.. You are probably right about Cowboys not better next year if Phillips is fired.
After all, Garrett is the supposed to be the ‘Coach in Waiting’ and yet he was on the sidelines today… as OC.. and did not just get beat… but blown out..
I'd love to see Garrett quickly bolt to Buffalo or Oakland before they fire Wade.
would be great to see them with absolutely no stability and completely retool the coaching staff.
….I do have a feeling that Wade stays…but Garret goes.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Jimmy Johnson did not run it up
vs the Bills in SB 27 52-17 . . . come on these guys are getting paid millions, there not in college anymore.
That extra TD was for
That classless piece of sh*t
Flozell Adams
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
Has my life improved after this Cowboys loss?
The answer is categorically yes. :-)
by GhostDini on Jan 17, 2010 4:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Joe and Buck seem to call every Dallas Cowboys game.
It’s like they work on the Cowboys TV Network or something. Now that the Cowboys are out of the playoffs, I doubt Joe and Buck will know what to do with themselves next week.
I can now put the 2009 season behind me ...
I have “closure”.
So, does Jerry can Captain Cupcake ? I put it at 75% chance he does. He had much higher expectations going into post-season.
Boys have not shown any resiliency when faced with adversity since loss to G-Men. Got up early on Saints, and the Eagles were really a bad team at season’s end. Boys played well early today, but when faced with adversity, they folded.
Jerry might be tempted to promote Garrett for a year to see what he can do, and then can him if a big name is available.
Also, Jerry will sell Roy Williams to the Air Force as “stealth” technology. The man is “in-vis-i-ble” …
courtesy of Bleeding Green Nation
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 4:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Well, before I get branded a lifetime cowboys fan for simply saying the Vikings were being jerks for running it up
and I get drilled with 19 consecutive same content posts by the new generation NFL Fan Johnathan and LT’s Will Power, I take my leave. The attitudes displayed here today by Giants fan is disheartening to say the least.
Enjoy the Cowboys losing, but don’t defend running it up, no matter who is the victim of it. That just screams classless.
c'mon man...
even the Cowboys fans are admitting that the team deserved it….
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they are proffesional players
if they can’t take a beating then they should find another job
IF you can’t stop them don’t complain about it
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 17, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't defend the Vikes
Running up the score is completely classless, but I HATE the cowboys. So it makes me giggle like a school girl that someone is running up the score on them. :)
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
look
the cowboys would have done the same thing…just look at jerry jones…he would run up the score in charity match vs. the cub scouts…like i said before…if it happens to our team who hear crys about them running up the score “they’re running up the score, WWWAAAA!!” (thats for you Artie)…no, i thnk to myself , stop them damn it and we deserve an ass beat and hope it lights a fire under our ass to improve…if you concentrate on crying about them being bully’s how do you fully concentrate on fixing your defense and looking yourself in the mirror
by LT's Will Power on Jan 17, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
and you are assuming the Cowboys were being class on the other side?
Is it so unfathomable that they deserved the score being run up?
Constant talking after every play…whether its a first down or a 3 yard gain.
Also..remember Bradie James’ hit on Farve during that false start? Farve probably had it in his mind then that they’ll score a TD at every opportunity.
Class is Class…but if the opponent isn’t class and doesn’t deserve it…F em. Stop it if you can. Cuz if they’re gonna talk and do dirty stuff like that, they don’t deserved the brakes to be put on.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and also...
I hope the Vikings get what they deserve the next week.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
To move onto a different topic...
… did anyone else see Brett Favre singing “Pants on the Ground”?
Well..I needn't say much here other than our NFC East obviously stinks..
I don’t think Favre ran the score up he simply did what a QB does he threw the ball and the receiver caught it..Now we get to watch the Jets..I’m not going to disparage the Cowboys..The prize is going elsewhere this year…Hopefully one thing Favre did was prove he is the best there is..I didn’t like Brookings jawing at the Viking sidelines but he was met quite readily by a guy named Jared Allen..Oooops!..Mismatch.
any division
that sends 2 and almost a 3rd to playoffs doesn’t stink. We just don’t have the top team in the league. We do have the most depth though.
Eagles don't count?
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
y isnt revis covering jackson
all i heard this week is how revis is one of the only conerbacks in this leauge that covers the opponents #1 wideout the whole game
If he retired today...
he’d be a 1st ballot HOFer when he’s eligible.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
No he'd get his own wing to the HOF
along with Joe Namath
Rex Ryan is the greatest coach ever and
Dirty Sanchez will be the first player put in the HOF while he’s still playing becasue he does commercials.
Thats a stretch
You have to be kidding.. Right?? Oh wait you did pick the girls’ to win today…
All's Well that Fewell
I know I bombed with that Cowboys pick, which I'm happy about
but yea I’m being sarcastic, I’m just making fun of Jets fans a bit when they talk about Revis
better than ronnie lott in tecmo super bowl?
by LT's Will Power on Jan 17, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Ronnie Lott couldn't carry Revis' shoulder pads.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
so...
revis would cut off two fingers to one up lott?
by LT's Will Power on Jan 17, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
should I put
/sarcasm?
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Revis is good
Which he had fell to us that year. I know you guys are mocking the hype but he’s legit.
Revis
He isn’t good, he is great def legit… wayyy too young to name him HOF and def not Pee On Deon stature… time will tell how good he is, but for sure he is a starter on any NFL team in the League, that says alot specially at his age… but honestly Screw the JETs
All's Well that Fewell
I know...
actually…he may end up in the Hall for real.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
No I agree he's a top 3 CB no doubt
a fine player who’s gotten better each year I’m just imitating Benigo and Roberts a bit
But yea I wish Ross (who started just as well) had risen to that level. But hopefully he comes back with a big 2010
To be honest with you without Revis that Jet D is probabbly ranked around 12th not one. They don’t have really any studs in the front seven, Jenkins when Healthy, a lot of good players but no dominate guys, they pressure with safteys and what not and Revis makes that possible.
Studs
Bart Scott is a stud and wayyy better then all three of our LBs put together… woulda loved this guy too
All's Well that Fewell
that's not saying much.....
and he probably would’ve got hurt anyway..
He’s more of a 3-4 guy and a bit to reckless for 4-3. That’s why he works well with Ryan’s scheme.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
He talks like a stud
He’s not a studd. Ray Lewis and Terrel SUggs are studs thats why Balt resigned them.
USC has better LB’s than the Giants.
He’s a solid LB that talks a big game.
I agree he's good
not great, not a game changer like Revis. David Harris makes as many plays as does Jim Leondard from his saftey position. He just runs his mouth so people think he’s some great player. He’s not. Sure I’d take he’s way better than any LB the G-Men have but’s not a great player. Good maybe even really good at times sure but not great.
Yeah when you watch the teams in the playoffs
you can appreciate what a group of at least decent linebackers can do
I think we might actually have the worst group in the entire league.
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 17, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Me too
He had such a great rookie year in 07 he was an instant upgrade for our defensive secondary. Covered well, tackled, play with guts in the playoffs with a shoulder injury, big play poetential. If he’s healthly I think Perry Fewell will make a player out of him.
His body betrayed him
and I have a feeling he may have dealing with something away from football we don’t know about, because rumors were that he was suffering from depression too.
I remember hearing him
saying durring the 08 season he lost his “love” for the game and was not having fun anymore. I never heard the word depression mentioned but it could fit.
Lets hop he gets rights for 2010 like you said both physically and mentaly.
This was a terrible terrible first quarter in this Charger game
Jets are going to win, Chargers are letting oppurtniteis slip through their fingers. I can hear the Jets fan now comparing the AFC championship game to SB 3 with Colts vs Jets. . . . AWFUL. . . . come on SD beat these chumps.
I've always wondered why the hell
Phil Simms has to be on CBS?
Is there a reason I always gotta listen to him announce Jets games?
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Yes it is
I live in mississippi, it was HORRIBLE before the Giants drafted Eli. The Cowboys were on almost every week. Since Eli was drafted though they show Giants games all the time now. :)
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Simms and Nantz are a lot better
than Buck and Aikman and Michaels and Collingsworth for that matter.
Simms does not root for anyone, Nance does not think he’s hosting a talk show. I actually like Gumble and Dierdorff. Big Dan talks about other positions other than the QB which is refreashing.
All this talk about running the score up is ridiculous
Play the game. Do you take a knee when your up 30 points in the middle of the 3rd quarter? No you play every snap lights out. And if the other team doesn’t match your intensity well tough love. These are grown men.
can we be a little less over protective of the qb please?
The ref blew the whistle almost before the guy had the sack
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 5:50 PM EST reply actions
It's the game now
No point complaining. The NFL wants to keep the QB upright because they’re expensive and rare.
I know they want to protect the QB but
There is also the possibility he’d have gotten away. I can think of one play in particular a rather expensive QB escaped a sack to make an amazing play on 4th down. :)
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
that never gets old.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
for what?
the Jets can’t score for their lives.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Come on!!!!!!!!!
The only pass Sanchez completes is quick slants, why can’t teams stop that. THats all he does!
Really?
They harped on in constantly when he first broke out. He didn’t even play college football. He played basketball at Kent State.
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
I don't even think he played football in college.
He was a very good basketball player for Kent State.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
New strategy for Giants draft picks ...
after this weekend, I’d draft anyone named “Rice”. Apparently, you can’t miss with a prospect that has that name. Jerry, Simeon, Ray, Sidney …
Nah, she's a "cover" corner ...
not good for our new “Tampa 2” (please let that not come to pass …)
Jerra is going to meet with spongebobs friend Patrick tomorrow and he will use a table cloth and a black pen. draw a line and write both men’s names on each side. He then tell him he felt he gave him 100 percent and vice versa, which the coach will agreed with. Then Jerra will draw an arch over both names and wrote “Dallas Cowboys”. “Unfortunately… See More we have this bigger thing up here,” Jones will say. “Unfortunately I’ve got to make the decision for what’s right for something a lot bigger than you, a lot bigger than me, and a lot bigger than our relationship. It’s time for us to part ways business wise.”
Coaching?
I am starting to believe our special team coach is ruining our kickers
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
I really hope there's a logical reason
that the Giants ST coach still has his position.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Feely wasn't that bad except for that one disaster in
Seattle. We just weren’t going to pay him the money Miami did. Our SP isn’t as bad as we think if you go around the league and see what passes for kicking these days.
Holy Shit that's an INT.
and LOL at Rivers blowing a gasket.
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Still
It took a LOT of awareness to make the play. He was lucky it didn’t hit the ground before it got to him, but made a great play when the opportunity presented itself.
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
for sure
But what happened before it got to him was total luck, like Phillips catching that ball off forget who but a cowboys leg… crazy
All's Well that Fewell
Witten
Hit Witten’s foot and bounced into Phillip’s hands. Should have been a pick 6, but was blown dead. At least we got the INT.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Regardless
All for not… 0 pts off turn overs, both these teams offenses look horrible… expected the jets to tho…
All's Well that Fewell
Yea I'm more impressed
with his ability to jump up and make a play on the ball against Jackson, that was great.
the ball bouncing was heads up but hanging with a big WR like V-Jack was great.
probably could've been caught too.
Nice to have 6"5 WR.
Here’s to Ramses being the weapon that makes Eli an MVP candidate.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
well yea...
but it hit the WR in the hands.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Rivers is REALLY trying to look like 2007 Romo/Farve.
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Oh Man the Jets are winnning this game
my god Giants fans get ready for a weak of hell in the NY papers. The NY media’s favorite team will playing the Colts in the AFC Champ game this week.
You’ll see plenty of 07 Giant comparisons this week folks I mean plenty!!!!
well...
I’d admit…the Jets DO compare with the 2007 Giants…at least a whole lot more then the 2009 Cowpoles did.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
They aren't so evil...
The Eagles, Cowpokes and Patriots are out of it.
The Ravens are gone, so it eliminates the Jets hosting a playoff game.
Trust in Peyton too.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
dude Jet fans are awful . . .. so are the Benigo media types that are always talkin this team up
Jets big underdogs vs the Colts in the AFC CHamp game . . . SB 3 Comparisons all freaking wekk are you kidding me do know how awful this will be.
This will be terrible. Trash talking Rex Ryan, a QB that has never payed his dues there is nothing to like about this.
I’d take the Pats over the Jets any day of the week
To me
Rex Ryan is
IF this was Herm Edwards and CHad Pennington I’d be ok with it.
NOt a cocky flashy QB who’s never earned anything and the son of Buddy Ryan.
Bill B came from the G-Men, he does not bother me, he’s a jerk but he helped this franchise win two SB’s.
Bart Scott is not the easiest guy to root for too. Cocky and trash talking. I’m sorry the Jets and there fanbase are unbearable to me
We're talking about a guy
that was caught spying on his opponents and traded key members of his team to avoiding paying before the season and who refuses to shake opposing coaches hands after games. He’s a jerk.
Dude a lot of teams do ruthless things
in the salary cap era in regards to trading and not signing guys, BB is not the first. I’d say the majority of teams trade guys cut guys and what not to stay under the cap and get young.
The Spy Gate thing was overblown, other teams do similar stuff BB’s rat boy assistant Mangini complained about it to make a statement.
The not shaking hands and press conferences are being a jerk I’ll give you that but I still don’t like coaches who talk trash like Rex . . . it’s obnoxious and makes it tough to root for. . .
Oh the dont
So the Jets telling Chad Pennington he’s going to compete for the starting QB position going into training camp in 08 with Kellen Celems then two weeks into training camp they dump him trade him to Miami so they could get Bret Favre, to help sell tickets and PSL, thats not ruthless and idiotic. Sorry Doc, the Jets are a tough organization to root for.
Meh
Belichick was great as our DC, but has become an A-hole on the Pats. I could care less what they do, as long as they don’t win another superbowl.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Belicheck was all away's an
A-hole. in fact why Handley was picked instead of him his George Young hated his guts.
No Handley was picked
becasue Parcelss waited till May to resigne Bellicheck took the Clevland job a week after SB 25 . . . Handley was the only guy left. . . BB and TC were gone. They settled for Handley
I've never liked Rivers
Give Eli Manning all those tall WRs and All-World TE Antonio Gates and Tomlinson in his prime and a stadium with no wind and a weather that’s always perfect and a division with sorry teams and a pass-first offense. I’m sure he could look really good too.
by GhostDini on Jan 17, 2010 7:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Rivers to me is
the least talented of the 2004 set. He’s a good QB though.
by DoctorK16 on Jan 17, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I love how people always talking about Eli
with Plax, Toomer, Shockey and Barber should’ve been a lot better…but while all those guys were very good…they don’t compare with Rivers players.
Maybe Tiki…but Shockey was a pain in the ass, Toomer slow as molassess..Plax same as Toomer and Shokey and also dropped passes when needed most.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Tiki is probably closest
But Ladaniean Tomlinson in his prime was WAY better.
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
oh no doubt...
kinda like the other guys…Tomlinson had legit breakaway speed.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
They won't score
SD will hold them
(i jinxed us)
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Bad coverage
guy slipped…
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Hey Cheer up
At least the Cowgirls lost and on top of that the Jets would have to win the superbowl to be compared to the 2007 Gmen…
All's Well that Fewell
Dude do you want to hear Jet fans
they will dismiss every accomplishment of what the Giants did in 07. . . . I’m telling the oh it’s no soo bad. . . you wait tomorrow morning it will awful, it will be awful. They will be saying we should open the new stadium, Coughlin sucks, Eli sucks, Blah Blah Blah Blah. . . . It will be terrible, I mean terrible. Sanchez will be compared to the alltime greats. . . . you don’t want it I’m telling you. . . . It’s like letting Iran get a nuclear weapon it won’t be good.
I feel ya
But until they win the superbowl i don’t care they got nothing on 2007 at all… talk when they win something… and really i hate Rivers and the whole Eli is attached to him for life because of the trade and rivers and chargers are better then giants and Eli crap.. so i wanted both to go home got one i’m still happy, lets see the jets beat colts… nuff said
All's Well that Fewell
but they will always be ...
those second rate Jets fans! lol
Opus smart , lascivio magis , intereo gauisus...
Personally
I’d rather the Jets win, but then being in Mississippi I don’t have to deal with Jets fans lol.
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 7:19 PM EST reply actions
yea..
I’m not in NY right now…so I don’t have to hear it or read about it in the papers as much.
Actually, being here in Massachusetts, the Jets winning at least this one would be a stick to them.
Of course…if they lose, its better, but there’s reasons it could be OK.
Then…they actually hate the Colts just as much up here, the Colts can beat the Jets.
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
I've
always been indifferent to the Jets, but I can’t stand Philip Rivers. I don’t mind the Colts. And around these parts anyone with the last name Manning is worshiped, so everyone in the entire state will be rooting for the Colts unless they are a Saints fan lol.
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
WOW.
I did NOT know Shonn Greene was that fast.
….anyone still against drafting a RB?
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definitely was a beast.
..probably more so then Spiller at least in college
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Can the NYJ's pull a NYG and give this one away?
Gotta get a score here if your SD.
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i feel bad for the chargers fans
they have had all this talent and all they have got is a conference championship game to show for it
I've always said...
the Chargers are the Cowboys of the AFC.
As talented as any team in the NFL…but they aren’t even on par with the Eagles.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Little bad luck
but also, Rivers throwing a pick didn’t help.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Don't feel bad for Charger fans
They’re about as annoying and arrogant as Eagle and Cowboy fans. They deserve nothing but failure. I hope they never experience a Super Bowl victory.
"We're Rock Stars... We're Lakers."
-- Lamar Odom
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"WE STOMPED YOU OUT!"
-- Michael Strahan
by 5_Giant_Raider_Clipper_Laker_13 on Jan 18, 2010 4:00 AM EST up reply actions
I believe in Rivers
I feel dirty saying that
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Tynes would have made that
(it was the third time)
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Wow...
Kaeding.
…..hmmmm, do they CUT Kaeding know?
Could care less about this game, Kaeding is damn good.
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
This
is why the Colts signed Adam Vinateri before they won the Super Bowl lol.
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 7:33 PM EST reply actions
I'm glad I'm not one of those Jet-hating Giant fans.
I’m happy to see the Philip Rivers slobber-fest stopped in its tracks, and I’m sure it’ll be a great story line this week as the rematch with Indy comes up.
Also, I couldn’t be happier for the Cowboys to be violated in every possible way, though, there is a side of me that feels the last TD does not reflect well on the Vikings, on Favre, or their coach, so screw them too.
I think the Saints/Colts super bowl might be kinda fun. I’ll be rooting for Peyton, in the hopes it inspires Eli again like it did last time.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
by Mr. Met on Jan 17, 2010 7:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
definitely gonna bite the Vikings
I mean, they did that against the Giants too.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I was you bro
It’s just that when I was a kid growing up in the 80’s and the Giants were good and the Jets sucked the few Jet fans I knew always would be in my face telling me the Giants suck . I mean in my face nasty stuff and I was like 10 or 11. Even now the few Jet fans I know are rubbing it in my face and as vocal as I am on these boards with my anti-Jet sentimet I’m not like that at all when I speak to Jet fans so I have no idea why they feel like they have to act like this towards Giants fans in general.
Also as a kid living in the NY area I was always stuck with the stupid awful Jet game instead of the national double header. There was nothing worse than watching a great Giant Redskin game then being forced to watch Jets vs Cheifs at 4:00 instead of Niners Bears. So that bugs me about them. Also the past two years I took the Jets in my knockout pool, Oakland in 08 and Bills in 09 and they lost both times. I mean come on. I root for them once a year and they lose to some terrible teams.
I’m a Yankee fan and I root for the Mets, maybe it’s cause they have their own stadium and a strong loyal fan base or cause the beat the sox in 86. . . I wish I felt the same way about the Jets. I just don’t they bug me. especailly their fans.
Amen
I’ll root for Peyton to win it all. The last thing anyone needs is to be bombarded with “Who Dat!” for an entire off-season.
That might be the stupidest penality in the history of football
by DoctorK16 on Jan 17, 2010 7:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
by greg a on Jan 17, 2010 7:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe that's a 15 yard penalty.
Man, the NFL is so damn serious sometimes.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
Yeah Philip Rivers went ballistic after that last INT
but of course for him that’s his usual manner.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
by Mr. Met on Jan 17, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually
I think that is a good penalty. If the ref doesn’t notice the challenge flag it could cause the team not get their challenge.
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
rivers stiff armed a guy with 50 lbs on him
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
SD still alive.
Wow those 3 missed FG.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
This is the worst time
to have your first career 3 FG miss game.
He’s usually so reliable too.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
It's amazing how that happens
like Gary Anderson not missing all season until the one kick that would have sent the Vikings to the SB and he misses it.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
hmm
I wonder if these playoffs will gain Vinateri some Hall of Fame voters lol.
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Onside kick?
They’ve been stopping the jets almost every play except for a few, so even if they don’t recover the kick, they still need to stop them.
If the Jets get a first down, they’ll win…
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Really people
It isn’t that amazing that Somoa produces a lot of NFL players. It is the same reason Mississippi is the #1 state when it comes to number of players per capital. It is because they are POOR. and it is the only way they think they can get rich. lol ok im done complaining.
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 7:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That is the most idiotic point of the day.
Since they are poor… Wow
LarryHarryCarlPepper
by gr8kicks on Jan 17, 2010 8:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They lost 5 seconds calling
the TO after the 2 minute warning. They call it before, third down is run at 2:00, now it’s 1:55.
The effect of the onside kick
is to give Rex a good excuse to go for this 1st down.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
Yea they should go for it
they’ll win if they get it and SD D’s has been soft all day they could easily get a yard.
If Sanchez has a hard snap count
now would be the time!
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
I would love that . . . .I really really would
I doubt it though Greene has been getting yards easily, this is what the Jets do, SD is soft up the middle.
dunno about anyone else...
there’s no way they aren’t getting the 1st.
SD’s run D stinks.
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No team is like the 2007 Giants.
They were one of a kind.
But I will say that the Jets are lot closer to being that team than the Cowboys ever were.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
no doubt...
they are.
Jets fans will try and compare Sanchez to Eli that year (which is why I don’t know how any Giant fan can respect Jet fans…) but its not close until the do it.
Even if they somehow do…they didn’t beat a team anywhere near as good as Dallas that year or of course the Patriots.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
You said it
but unforntally for the next week you are going to hear how this team is not only as good as the 07 Giants but better.
Hell there was an article in the NY post that compared this Jet team to the 90 Giants. . . Awful . . .. .
This is easialy one of the worst season ever as a Giants fan. Truley terrible. .
LOL
sorry, man, but you’re taking this whole Jet thing waaaayyyyy too personally. In my opinion.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
LOL!!! I know I am
my brother tells me that all of the time . . .
but I saw one of your other posts you are out in Colorado so you don’t have to deal with what I’m going to have to deal with in the NY area.
Fudge...
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Seriously?
You want to hear a lot more from Philip?
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
no one here
hears Phillip….he’s way out there.
Jet fans…are here.
…but at least it will piss off the Patriot fans…
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
I live in Colorado
so I guess I’m a lot closer to there than you are! Being in an AFC West city, I hear his crap all the time, and don’t have to listen to annoying Jet fans, so I guess that’s why I have the opinion I do!
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
ah...
of course.
There’s your answer.
Jet fans are insufferable.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
PEYTON
Will smoke these chumps
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
by greg a on Jan 17, 2010 7:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely.
Their whole world was (is still?) in question because of the Jets.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
they did a bang up job today
It helped that Kaeding missed 3 kicks and Rivers did a Romo impression but you gotta give them credit.
Got that easily
Norv sucks as a HC, I don’t care what anyone says . . . . I’m sick to my stomach . . . .
Now the Giants are second class citizens. . . . truley truley awful.
by Landeta on Jan 17, 2010 7:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The Giants have a far better history than the Jets
It would take a whole, whole lot of sucking for us to become 2nd to the Jets
Oh bull.
The Giants are the Giants. They had a tough season, but they’re not second class to anyone.
"We were very much aware of that. There was a lot of phone call-type things going on in the room." -- Tom Coughlin
by Mr. Met on Jan 17, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hmmm.....
Chargers FIRE Norv…Gilbride goes to Oakland….
…Gints need a OC?
Norv Turner?
Can dream right?
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
I don’t know if Norv would be a good fit because you’ll have to change the offense a lot to suit what he does. He could get fired though. AJ Smith is weird like that.
If he just kicked off instead of onsides it
no way the Jets go for it on fourth down and SD gets one more shot . . .
Norv made a terrible decision . . . .he’ll might get fired.
the Jets
could have drove the field and ate up that 2 minutes and they never see the ball again. I’m not killing Norv for that it’s a borderline call with that much time.
No way the Jets get for it deep in there territroy
they would of put the Chargers in FG range already if they don’t make it and give the SD a short field to win the game like the Pats did vs the Colts earlier in the year.
I agree it’s boarderline in that they needed the ball back but the chances of getting an onsides kick is slim. The onsides changes the Jets perspective and allows them to be agressive when they have the ball. I think was a bit of a panic call.
actually...
all they’d have to do is draft CJ Spiller to be their Tomlinson :)
Boss would be relevant. Barden could become Vincent Jackson
….I’ve gone too far already…!!!!
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't even wait for KG to Oakland ...
Giants should pack his bag for him if Turner available.
are you
the most pessimistic person alive?
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
ok
Just wanted to be sure. If there was someone more so it would be quite frightening.
by mypisceannature on Jan 17, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
relax...
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Tho…really, I can’t say that I truly hate the Jets right now.
I wish the Giants could play D like they do.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yea right
It was’nt that long ago the G-Men did play championship D
When SD was blowing scoring opps early I had a bad feeling about this game. It came back to bite the CHargers in the arse. . . they played a sloppy game the Jets, outside of that Sanchez pick played a good clean game. The last time the Jets got this far I was in college out in PA so I did not have to deal with the the Jet fans . . . .so this week will be rough.
Jets
It’s seems the Jets watched a lot of the game against Giants where the Giants controlled them for most of the game.
All in all ... a good day.
Cowboys crushed.
Rivers still can’t win (or even get to) the big one.
Here’s hoping for a Colts/Saints SB. That would be entertaining, and no arch enemies involved.
by Shofner85 on Jan 17, 2010 8:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Jets reming me a lot of last years Ravens
And I mean a lot they had a good run, but I expect Peyton to end it.
Yea I could see that
they don’t impress you that much even when they win
They just seem to out tough teams and thats about it.
yup.
yet, they got the Steelers who matched their toughness with toughness.
..that said, Peyton Manning is a class or 5 above Rivers
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just witnessed my two dumbest plays of this season..
Jackson kicking the stupid red flag after a great catch, and Turner calling an on-side kick..dumb dumb dumb..and dumber..worst case, the Bolts could have easily sent it into overtime if they kicked it deep..What a bunch of dopes.
so what's this I hear about Romo no longer being a choker? =D
"We're only going to score 17 points?"
I think you gotta start throwing Rivers name in that circle too.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jan 17, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Romo was under seige today ...
but came up very small once he had some adversity. Gotta like the fact that both the Boys and Eagles seem to have some serious OL problems for next year. Ours might not be that bad.
I'm sorry Norv and Wade are just losers
they are fine coordinators but my god their teams come up small and can never handle prosperity. What was the trendy SB pick going into this weekend. SD vs Dallas . . . my god they just choke.
I never saw Rivers play that bad..until I saw what the Jets did to him..He had nobody..absolutely
Nobody to throw to..and the false LT sucks..He is useless..anytime you hand-off to that nit-wit you have wasted a play.
romo sucked as well
3 fumbles in the first half alone
he was missing wide open receivers as well
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 17, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
Crazy BF
Doesn’t Brett F look like he has just escaped from a fancy dress party at the local psychogeriatric hospital? Look out Brett, the nice male nurse is coming to get you!
Well done Viks for stuffing Romo, but no way do they beat the Saints next week. Well done to the Jets, their D may just upset the Colts who had zero running game yesterday. I think Saints/Jets SB at this point.
He was like a god walking amongst mere mortals. He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.
Don't put anything past the Jets..
They blanketed the Chargers, so it will be Peyton against a defense that doesn’t leave many players open..and as for Favre, he could care less about playing the Saints in their dome…He just continues to teach kids how to play a man’s game.
he tore them a new one when they played earlier this year
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 17, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Wade
Has anyone said this yet- I hope we get another year of Wade Phillips coaching the Cowboys.
A little late
but here’s a picture I think we’ll all enjoy
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
by Willgfass on Jan 17, 2010 9:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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