New York Giants News & Notes: Still Waiting on a Defensive Coordinator
by cjmulrain on Jan 13, 2010 7:00 AM EST
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Print- Ralph Vacchiano says he is waiting for "puffs of white smoke," drawing a comparison between the wait for the Giants new defensive coordinator and the Catholic Church waiting for the election of a new Pope. Obviously, one of those is more significant than the other - I mean, no Pope has ever won a Super Bowl. In that article Ralph gives a breakdown of the recent developments with the different candidates, which really hasn't changed much in the past few days.
- This was linked to yesterday in the FanPosts, but in case anyone doesn't check those out (and you really should, a lot of the stuff posted there is front-page quality), I will link to them here because they are humorous and Giants fans could use some humor these days: from the Onion, "Tom Coughlin Scores 2 TD's Against Giants D;" and from the Sports Pickle, "Cowboys Win Their Last Playoff Game for 57 Years."
- This one is sure to cause some heated discussion: Josh Alper says the Giants should be the Jets biggest fans right now, because the Jets playoff run has kept the media heat off of the Giants for their dismal end to the season. Obviously Mr. Alper doesn't read Big Blue View, but his point is well taken.
- File this under "strange news": Super Bowl XLII hero David Tyree will join former NFL player Willie Gault and current player Tim Dwight in a 60-Meter Dash at the Millrose Games this year.
- ProFootballFocus selects its Pro Bowl teams, and the Giants are fairly well-represented, all things considered. Kareem McKenzie & Shaun O'Hara both make the team as starters. Chris Snee, Justin Tuck, and Kevin Boss are selected as reserves. Steve Smith just missed the cut at wide receiver (but luckily was ahead of DeSean Jackson). No mention of Eli Manning at QB, but considering the guys ahead of him, that's not too surprising. Overall, I can't complain too much about this list - it's better than the real Pro Bowl selections.
- Finally, I've offered rooting etiquette for the past two weeks' Eagles-Cowboys games, so I might as well continue until the NFC East is officially dead and buried in 2009-10. Last week didn't go perfectly, but while watching the game with some Eagles fans I'd be lying if I said I wasn't deriving quite a bit of pleasure from the beating they took. This week, the rooting etiquette is very simply: suck it up and root like hell for Brett Favre to channel 1996 and kick the crap out of the Cowboys. We can worry about him next week, but priority numero uno is getting the Cowboys back to where they belong this time of year: Cabo.
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It's interesting to observe that PPF has MckEnzie as one of their pro bowlers...
…yet your average BBV user wants to bury him and move on. What are they seeing that we are not (or, vice versa)?
by Step up and make big plays on Jan 13, 2010 7:51 AM EST reply actions
Good question
but maybe they just aren’t seeing his injury history. IMO he’s a very good RT, but you can see that the end of the line is near with the injuries piling up.
by potroast on Jan 13, 2010 8:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He gets hurt..because he plays his heart out..I don't think he is done..
and he IS a good pass blocker as well..How many sacks has Eli suffered?..
Would love to keep him as depth ...
but right now I’d feel more comfortable with Beatty as the starter, unless we want him at LT to move Diehl inside to LG.
McKenzie
is still a well above average run blocker (you will see just how good later when I do the offensive line review). His pass-blocking leaves a lot to be desired, but he is probably a better player than we give him credit for.
by Ed Valentine on Jan 13, 2010 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
off topic i know
but what happens if indy wins it all this year under jim caldwell? i wonder if that validates the reasons tony dungy was let go in tampa. his teams were always almost there but just not good enough to win it all, then gruden took duny’s team and won.
now with dungy gone if the colts win it all again, does it all fall on peyton manning?
Dungy is obviously a delusional man at times...maybe that's why.
Remember he said that the Cowboys had no chance at all against the Saints? I dunno if he was trying a reverse jinx or something….but you never say a team has no chance
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 13, 2010 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
Not at times..Dungy is always delusional..
And he should have and Andy Reid should take better care of their kids welfare.
Whoa....
That’s an unnecessary low blow Bobbi. We don’t know what goes on behind the closed doors of these two families or how they are taking care of their kids. Let’s not touch this subject.
No, I don't think so.
I mean, didn’t Dungy WIN a superbowl with Peyton? I think that actually validates Indy getting him post-Tampa.
Chucky also happened to work out for Tampa.
Oakland is the only org. that lost out in that shuffle.
by BigBlueDeadHead on Jan 13, 2010 8:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I saw Haslett probably's going with Washington now.
Crennel to the Chiefs, Fewell’s still possibly going to Chicahgo.
How come no one wants to be the DC in NY?
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
Romeo
said he had relationship in KC wiht Pioli and he does not want to work for TC becasue of the long hours he requires of his assitant coaches
The other guys I have no idea. Fewell will likely end up in Chicago becasue of his relationship with Lovie. Haslett was probabbly the money casue you know Synder will pay for him and becasue I think it’s obvious that the Giants like Fewell and he seems to be the #1 choice.
If the Giants end up with Bob Sutton, I’m selling all of my tix for 2010 season. The Giants need a DC not a drill Seargent.
Who knows though. It does seem wierd.
I am starting to wonder
If all these names are actually a smoke screen
And the person they really want is still connected to a playoff team
there has been only one interview so far that we know of
they are playing their cards very close to their chest
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
could be...
I hope its not Bob Sutton from the Jets.
Maybe there’s son unnamed assistent from the Ravens? Maybe after Dallass loses, Wade gets canned and they grab him (tho…he may have to be coach in waiting?….F that)
Maybe Leslie Frazier? Tough to think of a current DC moving to the same job somewhere else..
I really don’t mind Crennel or Haslett going somewhere else..but if Fewell chooses against the Giants…then I’m really gonna wonder.
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 13, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
although
By some stange alignment of the planets and other non worldly occurences Sutton turns out to be a genious and turns our D into a # 1 squad responsible for years and years of super bowl wins.
Could possibly cause all Jet fans to jump off the G.W. Bridge in disgust
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
don't they already have Romo?
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 13, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
Ba-zing
Give me work release or give me death - #17
by Plaxico Burress on Jan 13, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I'd read this to go along with it
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/1/11/1245140/cowboys-win-their-last-playoff
I got it from there, and well, the cowboy fans are taking it seriously with comical results
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Actually quite sad
Of course, that sort of comical trolling crap would never happen on BBV … or would it?
He was like a god walking amongst mere mortals. He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.
We've swept the boys
so they have no right to do anything here.
No offense to eagle fans, but overall I think we’re, for lack of better term, more trained, and won’t feed the troll.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
A Pope nearly has
won the Superbowl.
L Pope played for the Cardinals last season and M Pope signed for the SB Champs 49ers.
by G Fan in England on Jan 13, 2010 8:58 AM EST reply actions
wasn't the Giants TE coach Pope?
I think he did win one in 2007.
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 13, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
Actually
The Giants had a CB G Pope (no 33) who was not active for the win over the Patriots.
CJ – tut tut – you must do your research before saying a Pope has never won the SB!
Journalists today think we will believe everything they write as the truth.
by G Fan in England on Jan 13, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
The real reason is ...
because the Vatican runs a “read and react” D. Let’s hope the Giants are paying attention.
by Shofner85 on Jan 13, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pope playing for the Cardinals? surely that is the wrong way round according to Canon Law.
Surely that is the wrong way round according to Canon Law. Priest Holmes won a ring in SB35 when the Ravens beat the … Giants (bugger)
He was like a god walking amongst mere mortals. He had a voice that could make a wolverine purr and suits so fine they made Sinatra look like a hobo.
Steve Smith
The ProFootballFocus comment was, “In the end his season was just too lop-sided in favor of the start.” What on earth does that mean?
Mickey C
maybe it was the 34 catches in the 1st 4 games
vs. the 29 in the last 4.
I dunno how Steve Smith’s consistent season has to be put in with the Giants as a whole.
- was consistent throughout. The team…nyet.
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 13, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
**#12 was consistent throughout
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 13, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe
his TD production was mainly at the start of the season plus his Dallas 10 for 130 compared to his Vikings 10 for 60…
by G Fan in England on Jan 13, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Its going to be nice
to watch that fat POS get manhandled by the mullet.. jarad allen is a beast.
Give me work release or give me death - #17
by Plaxico Burress on Jan 13, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
root like hell for Brett Favre......
You don’t have to say it twice. Hope the vikes beat the crap out of them and then the camera shows a nice shot of Jerry’s face.
+1million
hope the vikes destroy the cowboys.. i know i know.. i sound like a hater.. but shyt, i am when it comes to the nfc east! lol “hate! hate! hate!” chapelle’s voice
eyyyy ED!!!!!
I don’t want any cowboy players here, specially Antonio Ramiro Romo; sure I could laugh at him and walk around with my 18-1 T-Shirt for him to see, but I think is time for them to try another beach destination. with them here it will diminish our resorts, and we are expecting a good year recovery here. So please take that back!!
Dallas v. Minnesota
I take great pride that the NFC Rast is the toughest conference in the league. If the Giants can’t make it, then I suggest we root for the NFC East entry—even if it is Dallas. Their success reflects on the whole division and the Giants.
Never
It’s bad enough the Cowboys just won their first playoff game since ’96. Thats the equivalant of the Red Sox at least reaching the WS ever since when…
I don’t want to imagine what the state of this country would be in if they go, and win the SB? It’s bad enough now! Seriously, how much room is left on that wagon?
I understand....
Babu I hear ya but there is a special dislike that I have for them boy’s. Any day they lose is a good day
F that...
that Dallas vs. Philly game was a lose-lose/win-win situation.
Yea..the Cowboys winning is a loss…but the Eagles losing is a win…ya capiche?
Disregarding the fact the Pokes are still playing and have won the SB/one playoff game in 14 years….the fact the Eagles are out of the playoffs, and still sans SB win…warms the cockels.
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 13, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
F-what?..Free you have too much animousity in your heart..What does Dallas or Philly
have to do with anything?..You’d rather a team from another division take the trophy home?
I'm at the point
That I’d like to see Big Bro vs The Old Man. That QB matchup would be the biggest hyped matchup in the history of hype.
uh....yea.
I don’t wanna see Dallas or Philly or Washington win anything…
The hell is going on here?
When did this division rep. crap start?
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 13, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
When its all said and done
the only true measuring stick is SB victories
The last thing I want to hear is the cowgirls have another one
Hell the fact they finally won a playoff game was bad enough
At least the Philly fans will have to live with that travesty
Not to change sports but as a Yankee fan I have never heard anybody wish the Red Sox win the World Series just to keep it in the division
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
Agreed Free....Bobbi i'm surprised at you
As a wise old sage once said, “the enemy of MY enemy is a friend.”
Thus, go Vikes.
WTF
Not in a million years. I’d rather get my tooth pulled with no Novocain. That’s painful for a few hours. The Boys winning the SB will be painful for an entire year..
Bobbi?
Please dont take this the wrong way
consider it a intervention of sorts
I understand the pride of the NFC East, the heritage,tradition the classic battles
BUT,
Can you ever imagine saying these horrible words
I WANT THE DALLAS COWBOYS TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL!!!!
(Just typing those words made me throw up a little)
Thats what I hear when you say “you want the trophy in our division”
I am hoping you are just having an off day
and remember we are here to help
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
A Giants fan wanting Dallas to the win the SB?
Incomprehensible!
+1
This week, the rooting etiquette is very simply: suck it up and root like hell for Brett Favre to channel 1996 and kick the crap out of the Cowboys. We can worry about him next week
CLASSIC!
LOL!!..You guys are a rip..!!haha..Most of you were simply a wish in your Dads pants while I was rooting for the Giants..
I hold not hatred for a f-in sports team..and that is that..Grow up
And while I was a wish in my dads pants....
My pop was rooting against the Pokes, Eggs and of course the Redskins any chance he could get.
This ain’t about hatred. Its about Giants fan pride man…damn. I root against the Cowboys, Eagles and Redskins every game they ever play…except of course when they play each other..then it goes Skins>Eggs>Pokes, at least now (but the Pokes are always least)
I sure as hell ain’t gonna change it for ’repping the division" cuz the Giants are out of it.
How I was taught.
How come China can't vote David Lee for All-Star?
by FreeBradshaw on Jan 13, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
Age has nothing to do with it!!
What I love about this site is the interaction of other NEW YORK GIANTS fans
exchanging thoughts and ideas over our beloved team.
The fact is, you have been a “fan” longer than others on this site is because you were born before them.
I might of been a wish in my Dads pants while you were rooting for the Giants
I still do not understand why I would want the Giants archenemy to win the Lombardi
It makes no sense to me at all
It could be my age, Hell in two weeks I am only going to turn 41 maybe it will take a couple more years to figure out why you posted this on the Cowgirls site
That is where the “Trophy” belongs..the NFC East.. And I think we’ve got the right team at this stage of the Tourney representing our division to go get it..
by Bobbiblue on Jan 10, 2010 4:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont get it man
You can see a lot just by observing-Yogi Berra
I posted that on the "Cowboys" site because that's how I feel..
I root for my Giants first and foremost and if they stink and don’t get the job done, which they haven’t then I’ll root for our division to go win the trophy, if that doesn’t happen I’ll root for any team that has Bill Parcells affiliated with it or Belichik or Fox or a team with a guy like Kurt Warner on it, I’ll root for the Jets to win also etc.. This doesn’t have any bearing on how I feel about my Giants at all..If they aren’t in the way of the Giants winning, I’ll root for them. I have too many friends and family that are Philly, Washington, Cowboys, Jets, Dolphins etc.. Fans and I will not insult or disrespect them for it…The only “Girls” quite frankly in our division this year was our Giants both the coaches and the players..We had and have a very talented team that just wasted a season away and also flat-out gave up in the end. Our team is the laughing stock of the league right now, and they earned that title with their crappy play..Some of the players played their hearts out every week, while most just collected a paycheck. I will not berate or disparage fans of another team who HAVE a team that wants to win, they deserve to have their day in the spotlight as much as we do..Shit my wife is a Cowboy fan for example, and we have a blast needling each other whenever they play against each other..Doesn’t make any sense to me to go insult a fan of another team..I have far more pleasureable ways to get my rocks off.
..and another thing..
I’ll post whatever I want to on other team sites whenever I want to and it is always well intended and always respectful..You obviously have too much time on your hands to be cutting and pasting anything I comment on other sites to make a mute point about me…Idiot.
I think (hope) that he was just joking Bobbi
besides, I finally figured out why you want the Girls to win. Your wife is a Cowboys fan and she probably vowed to boot you to the guest room for the entire offseason if the Girls didn’t win. I watch enough Law and Order to put this together. I understand now. On that note, have fun in the guest room this summer :)
Minnesota v Dalls
I’ve read your comments. I may go back longer than any of you. I went to Giant games in 1939, 1940, 1941 etc. I rmemeber Mel Hein, Ward Cuff, Al Blozis, the Poole brothers etc. And I still am a fan of NFC East. Gee, if one of the none NFC East teams beats our rep, that makes the Giants look even worse.
Babu
You do go farther back than I do..I was weaned on the Giants starting in ‘56..by my Dad, although I didn’t understand what I was watching until ‘60..or so..he is gone now, but I still have the memories..mostly miserable ones, but fun nonetheless..then ’86 came along!..He felt the same way..Giants first, NFC East next..Those were the priorities and still live on with me..He passed in November this past year, so didn’t have to witness another travesty season..
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