New York Giants notes: Coaches expecting the ax?
by Ed Valentine on Jan 1, 2010 7:00 AM EST
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Maybe Bill Sheridan is just as delusional as Osi Umenyiora.
Seems that despite reports already floating around that several New York Giants coaches expect to be dismissed following Sunday's season finale, Sheridan told reporters Thursday he was "not concerned" about losing his job.
I guess that is what you would expect someone in Sheridan's spot to say. In all honesty, why wouldn't he want another opportunity? I think, though, that Giants fans will get a laugh out of his response when Sheridan was asked why Tom Coughlin should keep him.
"The same reason why he gave me the job, because he thinks I am competent and do a conscientious, diligent job. That’s what I told him when I interviewed for it before. I said, ‘To me, the most important thing is competence, that you put your players, give them a plan on a weekly basis that would put them in the best position to defend and beat your opponent.’ That’s the same reason why. That’s why he gave me the job, and if he’s evaluated that, it’s still competent in that area. That’s what I would tell him," Sheridan said.
I think Giants fans might not agree that Sheridan has consistently put players "in the best position to defend." I think we are back to that "look in the mirror" thing we talked about Thursday in reference to Umenyiora.
Coughlin, incidentally, addressed the topic of self evaluation Thursday. He might have been talking about Umenyiora, Sheridan or several other Giants when he said this:
"It is difficult sometimes for an individual to look at himself and be totally objective. I think most of the people that are on this team are pretty good at that. And we don’t pull any punches when we talk about the pluses, the minuses and that kind of thing. Guys understand."
Back to Sheridan for just a second. He was, of course, asked about Umenyiora Thursday. I don't know if Sheridan was just trying to make nice with the disgruntled defensive end, or if he truly believes this, but here is what he said about Osi's status.
"I don’t think he slipped at all. He is more than capable of being a full-time player. With the depth that we have had going in at the defensive line, it was already predetermined that we were going to be rotating guys and no one was going to be playing more than 30 or 40 snaps a game. So I know in the latter part of the season his reps have fallen off, but in no way, shape or form is that a reflection on his ability or his performance," Sheridan said. "Osi hasn’t slipped in any way, shape or form. He is an excellent football player."
When the Giants added quarterback Rhett Bomar and safety Sha'reef Rashad to the 53-man roster Wedneday they signed each player to two-year contracts. That would seem to be a pretty good indication that both players are in the team's 2010 plans.
Fred Robbins is a free agent after Sunday and said in his blog this week that "I haven't given any thought to where I'm going to play next year." Fred-O, my man, you can be pretty sure it won't be with the Giants.
Offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride was also available to the media Thursday, and he said re-energizing the running game will be a high priority for 2010.
"Not that we are where we need to be with the passing game; we can still be a lot better. There are some things, as I have said every week, they do some spectacular things. But, right now from a coaching standpoint there is a lot of room for improvement in a lot of different areas. The good thing was there was steady improvement. As long as we don’t fall back and we go basically from where we left off this year, you feel good about it. Hey, we are headed in the right direction and we should continue to get better. If we do, we will have a chance to be pretty special," Gilbride said.
"But, the running game did fall off and that was really disappointing. In particular it was not as good with our base stuff. In the past that was what we started with and we built off of that. This year, we didn’t. Our running game didn’t really kick in until the passing game got going. Once they started to defend the pass, then we were able to run the ball more effectively. Not that there is anything wrong with that approach, but that has not been what we have been able to do. That has not been our approach. So, for us to have to do that is disappointing. You would love to see us get back to where we feel as good about the running game as we have in the past."
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smh
I was shaking my head when I first read BS’s comments..WOW! This guy really needs to sell whatever he’s smoking…in his defense I think had he been in the box perhaps game day adjustmets & play calls would have been better..suffice it to say…he’s a goner…
Osi…has always been a lil to high on himself,but he gets a pass due to the knee injury…
TC is a good coach, but he is stuborn,& should take the time to reflect on his short comings..I wld like him up in the DC / OC’s face every now if for no other reason but to say wtf are u calling !
Oh yeah happy new year all
i dunno maybe I just like the colors
by Mr.Williams on Jan 1, 2010 8:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Sheridan
I do think some of the defensive problems were not his fault. But, he does deserve plenty of blame for some bad schemes, blown assignments and inconsistent effort by the defense.
Sheridan is all about X's and O's
His perspective is all about mechanics. He is completely foreign to the ideas of motivation, leadership and team. A good coach has to have both, the ability to construct a game plan that puts strength against weakness and also push the right buttons on individuals to raise their performance on a weekly basis. This past year he was weak on the former and dismal on the latter. Time to look for new blood.
Happy New Year!
When its 3rd and long, throw the ball past the marker.
You hit the nail on the head ...
BS is probably adequat Mon. – Sat., but lousy at motivating players on game day, and making in-game adjustments.
I note a major difference here in the responses from BS vs KG..
Gilbride offered an assessment on what went right and what went wrong on the offense this year, and expressed disappointment and also offered a peek into what needs to be addressed next year to fix things..Particulary the running game..He pointed out that they didn’t intend to have to be a pass first run second offense, but were forced to.
Sheridan on the otherhand expressed how competent he and his game plans are..What a joke..Who is he kidding?..How can he even attempt to say that? Week in and week out we witnessed a defensive unit that was totally dazed and confused out there..He is like a stationary bike..You can pedal all day and go absolutely nowhere..That’s exactly what he put on the field every week..and if he doesn’t recognize a fall-off in Osi’s performance then he is incompetent and needs to go.
KG
I think the response showed that KG has been doing this for a long time, and he is very comfortable with who he is and how he does his job. Despite what Sheridan said, I think his answer refleced some insecurity about his own future.
by Ed Valentine on Jan 1, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Bobbi you hit it
thats a great point between a guy that has a feel for what going on with his unit and for a guy that just really does’nt know what’s going on with his. The inconsistancy is what bugged me becasue despite some of their injuries and lack of talent you should not get shreeded like they did week in and week out that is a product of coaching.
Sheridan
Coughlin chose him for a reason.
Sheridan was forced to coach from the sidelines when he wanted booth.
Most of the D was hurt for the season.
D-line had 1 fully healthy guy (Kiwi) all season. The DTs had knee or other issues; Osi tried; but wasn’t right yet; Tuck was Flozelled.
Starting LBs weren’t quite right, Pierce was slowed then hurt, Clark is slow, Boley was hurt; some talent behind them that needs to develop.
DBs were totally poor. Phillips makes everyone better (I watched him at UM), he was gone early, M Johnson tried to make up for it, but there was too much to do with CBs hurt. CC was probably Reese’s biggest mistake thus far, no depth at safety. CB, Ross went down, people were nicked, and the D-line didn’t get pressure which would have let DBs have easier time.
Giants D in 2009 was a trainwreck compared to what is was supposed to be and Parcells and Belichick wouldn’t have fared much better with the same players (Come on, they would have done better, but still). He was playing chess w/o the queen, a bishop, and both castles and 3 pawns by the end. Spags wouldn’t have done much better, and following his couple of seasons, it made things look even worse from a perspective issue.
2010 G-men D, with Phillips back, Osi and Tuck healthy, everyone else hopefully healed, more depth at DB, LBs more athletic, co-D coordinator Pierce gone… they could be back to dominance.
So unless there was internal stuff the media hasn’t covered about Sheridan specifically, you can’t say he doesn’t deserve 2010. Let him do things his way, with better, healthy players, and see how it goes. Coughlin may have chosen the right guy.
Besides, it keeps the scheme in place that the G-men did so well with under Spags. And Spags is going 1-15 this year… and if things don’t improve in St Louis… and ownership overreacts… and Sheridan doesn’t work out with his second chance in 2010… wouldn’t it be great from a G-men fans’ perspective to maybe get Spags back as coordinator? (Longshot, but still a worthwhile dream).
A totally different conclusion....
I don’t disagree with many of the facts you’ve highlighted (the injuries, those slow coming back from surgery, etc.), but whatever “plan” the defense had, Sheridan didn’t have it sold to whatever bodies were on the field, they weren’t all on the same page and they didn’t execute it. Part of it is a lack of talent, in that some of the replacemenets aren’t interchangable with the starters (that’s why they’re on the bench), but there was no fire or emotion within his charges. They weren’t playing for their jobs, to bring glory to the team or with any sense of mission. They were out there putting in their time in the half of the season’t games that they didn’t show up for. And there may have been a victory of two early when they really didn’t show up that well, but had it masked by a struggling opponent as well.
Sheridan doesn’t say he’s a motivator, that he pushes to excel, or that he wants to bring greatness. He aims to be “competent”, the minimum daily requirement, and the defense sure looked and acted like they were doing the same this year. Goodbye Mr. Sheridan.
Our defense got their butts kicked last week..
By a back-up QB and a makeshift (at best) offensive line and a second-string running back who ate us alive for 206 yards in a crucial must-win game…There are no excuses for Sheridan..and somebody needs to explain to me how his calls during the games would improve if he called the same crap from the booth..I have never seen that guy even talking to the players on the bench, he just stands there with his laminated playsheet scratching his head..The only guy I’ve seen call an effective defensive game is Mike Nolan, but that is because he has good plans to start with..and the late Johnson did it for the Eagles, but that was because he was incapacitated with cancer…but the man showed up every week with a solid set of schemes even while being on his death bed. Sheridan stinks…Injuries are absolutely no excuse..Gilbrides offense put a slew of points on the board all season with a damaged running core of players and an untested receiving core..This defense was letting the team down even when Spags was here at the end of last year..As far as I’m concerned, let Spags stay in St. Louis and ship Sheridan over there to lose with him.
Bobbiblue
Since the booth would give him a different perspective, he would likely make different calls based on what he sees. My guess is, that’s why he wanted up there in the first place.
At this point the defense is thin, Panthers put together a good gameplan against the Giants and wanted to play. Most of the Giants seemed not to.
As for the offense performing, heck, Eli is playing up to his potential now… hope it continues in 2010.
by Joshua4Giants on Jan 1, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Josh..I hear what your saying...
But, I respectfully disagree that anything would change for the better with BS in the booth..Good DCs simply tweak their gameplans during a game..His obviously are bad from the get-go..There have been comments from the players here and there throughout the season citing mis-communication..I just can’t imagine that would change for the better if he was further detached from the field…Your second point about a thin defense and Carolina building a better gameplan against us is right on..they did exactly that with back-ups, and I maintain there is no excuse for our guys giving up..Harry Carson even said it..and LT being LT, left at half-time..and yes Eli has been having the season of his career with a core of young inexperienced receivers..That is a major positive going into next year..He owns the offense now, and these receivers are going to be even better..kind of scary for other teams I would think.
The D did not slip that bad last year
they kept the G-men in games they just were wearing down a bit. Outside of the Carolina game the O did not score over 20 points in any game at the end of 08, had the O scored a few more TD’s instead of FG’s and not gone three and out as much they would have beaten Dallas and Philly late last year. The O could not overcome the loss of Plax.
With that said the D was a disaster this year! 40 + point games, teams gashing them on the ground, poor tackling. Last year they slipped from dominate to very good. This year they were abysmal I would kill for the D they had at the end of 08.
A quick response
I think everyone agrees (almost) that Sheridan is a smart guy or would not have made it this far BUT
He’s lost the confidence of the players. People have to believe in your system and I think his system is geared towards veterans. That Eagle defense leaves a lot of players on an island to make a play if the blitz doesn’t work and the Giants just doesn’t have that talent level right now.
I’m sure he wants to stay and that shows character but the fans and players aren’t buying in anymore.
I agree that the injureis and talent were issues
BUT the lack of effort which includes tackling issues from guys that are typically good tacklers, Ross, Webster, Thomas. Making the same mistakes over and over agian deep passes down the seam . . . Playing great one week against a mediorce team Wash then mailing it in against Carolina who’s O-line was banged up, did have their best runner and were playing with a backup QB. I mean Carolina’s O is bad and they scored at will it’s not like it was NO or SD’s O . . . I would of agreed with you about maybe giving him another year but that Carolina game was just showed that something is not right with BS. Carolina was missing their D-Tackles and played with more effort and improved as the year went on. That leads me to improvement . . . the D has kinda gotten worse they have not shown improvement at all. Look at the O, guys like Nicks Bradshaw Eli showed improvement as the year went on even the O-line was run blocking better until this past week. The D has never improved, I thought they did from the standpoint of run D but again the Carolina game proved me wrong. Players like Michael Johnson, Corey Webster, Kiwi seemed to regress a bit this year too . . . that scares me a lot about BS. A good coordiantor gets the most out of his players and talent, I don’t think BS did that at all. I’m sure X and O’s why he is fine but I don’t think he communicates effectively, has the pulse of his unit, nor gets the most out of his talent and those things are equally as important as scheme.
I think the Giants made a mistake by being more concerned about keeping continuity with a scheme at the risk of hiring an unproved DC. GB was awful in 08 on D, Capers changed the scheme the D has improved drasticly, Same thing with Nolan in Denver. Don’t get wrong continuity is important but if the guy implementing it cant, motivate well, communicate well or does not have a good feel for his players than continuity is useless.
Tell the truth
BS is your uncle right?
by BigBlueCrew_jfl on Jan 1, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
If Sheridan ISNT fired...
i am going to blow a fuse.
like i said other times, the giants were kinda gettting put down by all those minor injuries that held back our players from playing to their full potential. Kiwi wasnt injured and he has a pretty good season.
the point is that with a new coordinator, a refreshed defense (with new blood and old players injury free) and our same old reciever core (barden included mabye), with eli at the riens,
the giants will do great next year. and great team with great potential cant do badly forever.
by EarthWindFire on Jan 2, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
Kiwanuka had a great season?
3 sacks as the RE of the NY Giants is not a good season
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 2, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you!
I thought he was a big dissapointment this year he did very little and I’m concerend about how good he really is.
It's simple
Giants cannot afford to blow another season with BS as their DC.
Sheridan Getting Fired
While I hope, fervently, that Sheridan (and his whole staff) are fired, I voted that he wouldn’t be, simply because I have zero confidence in the Giants front office to wake from their ongoing coma and do ANYTHING right. Right now, I can’t see much difference between John Mara and……..Leon Hess (and Hess is DEAD).
Wow, that's harsh
Have you forgotten that the Giants had four straight playoff appearances prior to this year? That they won a Super Bowl? That they reached the Super Bowl twice in the last decade? I’d say you are way off base asserting that they can’t do anything right. I believe almost the exact opposite. They have made a few mistakes, as anyone would, but the front office has done a whole lot of things right. And I have the utmost confidence that will continue.
by Ed Valentine on Jan 1, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
I think Ed some long time Giant fans feel this way
becasue the Giants Front office has a history of bad decsions after some great runs so I think the BS hiring and the Jet like FA class this year has some fans getting nervous.
Pretty much every front office move from 1965 till the hiring of George Young was a disaster.
Ray Handley after Parcells……Dave Brown after Phil Simms. . . . .I mean I understand it’s tough to follow a legend but Ray Handley and Dave Brown were horrible in every way possible. The way the front office handeld the first year of FA and a salary cap in 1994 when they cut Simms, let Megget, Myron Guyton, Greg Jackson, and Mark Collins all sign somehwere else as well as Jumbo Elliot and I beilve William Roberts, I think 3 of these guys signed with Parcells in NE. How Parcells wanted to come back to the Giants at the end of 96 but they decided to hire Fassel (Not that Fassel was awful but they should of waited for Tuna). Replacing John Fox with Johnny Lynn for continuity and now this Sheridan hire when the HC wanted wanted to go in a different direction initially. I had a horrible feeling about Sheridan when he was hired it just stunk of Rod Rust and Johnny Lynn taking over after SB runs.
Also considering it looks like the salary cap is going away I’m very concerend about how the Giants front office will approach it considering we are in a division with 3 teams that are just as profitable as the Giants, more agressive ownerships that have deeper pockets than the Mara’s, and one of the organization in the Eagles that has scouting and player personal department equal and maybe even superior to that of the Giants.
I’m not saying I agree with what Gray-wolf is saying, the comparison to Leon Hess is too much, but if you’ve been a Giant fan for some time it’s not crazy to be concerned a bit.
Now with all of that being said I’m confident the front office will make some corrections this offseason to be more competative in 2010. Even though I have some concerns, by no means do I think the Giants front office is that of the Bengals, Cardinals or Lions. (Kinda funny ARZ and CIncy are in the playoffs though). I guess what seems to be agrevating about the G-men is I would like to see a seemless transition when a key componet leaves like the Steelers with Tomlin or the Colts with Caldwell Ravens with DC’ Lewis to Nolan to Ryan. It almost always seems like they have to really struggle in a particular area to get headed in the right direction again like the two wasted years with Ray Handley then a good coach like Reeves comes in and with a few changes makes them one of the best in the league again.
One thing is reassuring though, this is still the Giants
This franchise has been one of the more stable ones for awhile, so we need to keep that in mind. There are going to be bumps along the way, like Parcells days until now. Afterall, we are only two years removed from a SB and only a year from a division title. Now we are seemingly at crossroads with an unforeseen future. That future now hinges on what JR and TC envision. But first, i think it’s important for the executive level to rethink their values as far as budgeting their coaches. To make money, you have to spend it!
This leads me to the Giants first choice of DC. If plan A was Capers, then for whatever reason than money that he didn’t come here, they should’ve opened up a bit more. Plan B in BS was economical, but with devastating results. Losing doesn’t put the fans in the seats, and winning by the seat of your pants doesn’t justify the cause either. So after this season has materialized into a disasterous defensive struggle, it was clear that BS’s hiring was a red flag from the start. It was moreless an endorsement from Spags!
So as i look at this, the Giants brass with the purse strings need to look at this with the sense of recruiting. Whether it’s a current player, an impending FA or a draftee, who in their right mind would want to play for BS? The time is now to right this ship which i believe can have a smooth transition!
Land...as usual a very in depth series of thoughts here..
The biggest mistake the Giants made was letting Parcells get away..I’m not very concerned about the salary cap going away. You can’t build a champion in the NFL on re-treads, this is different than baseball, there are the Steinbrenner-like in the NFL but they have never been as successful as George was (who has taken a beating over the years for simply wanting to put a winner on the field for New York..I will never bash the man for that). You can get a key aquisition here and there like Moss for New England and Brookings for Dallas..but it is rare..The guys JR picked up have done nothing and that is usually the case in football, it doesn’t normally solve a weakness in the long-term..The draft and good coaching is what gets it done..If you look at all three SB wins, the players on our team were considered (with the exception of a few) nobodys but won.
Did we let him go,
or did Parcells kidnap him?
As I recall
Parcells dithered about whether or not he was leaving. While waiting, Belichick got an offer from Cleveland and went there
Right,
Parcells became a color guy for two years and brought Belly to NE when the Browns fired him
I may be wrong here because Bill Parcells..
Always leaves a vapor trail wherever he goes but I think he was grooming Bill B. for the Jets job, and Bill B. took off for the Patriots job.
Could be.
I think Belly didn’t want to coach the Jets because they had no place to go but down. Bill went a bit crazy with money for FAs, etc and they were facing real salary cap issues. Is there supposed to be a Parcells-Belly feud? I never heard of one. Tuna’s doing a great job in Miami. He seems to have honed his GM skills.
Yes there was a rumored feud between them when they parted ways..
..Just Media fodder fueled by neither one of them making any comments..which is part of both of their MOs..They never comment on anything when addressing the media..They look and act like they are in extreme pain..it is comical…Yet if you or I or any fan hollered a hello to them they’d walk over and happily chat for awhile…Just don’t carry a Steno-pad and pencil and wear a ESPN logo’d jacket..they’ll ignore you..haha
There has been alot of crap concerning Parcells and Belichek..
Which is total bull..They talk all the time…and they are friends..Bill B. wanted to make his own mark and succeeded in doing so in New England, he decided it was time to get out from under a shadow by not taking over the Jets job, which is fine..The Giants should have snagged him but didn’t and I don’t think he wanted that job if they offered it to him..He wanted to do it on his own.
Well..
You can factor out Miami..His role is being in charge of all football operations and look what he’s done..Now, the Giants, NE, Jets and Dallas screwed him over..period. If you want Parcells, you better let him do his job, his way..and you’ll have a winner..If you don’t then say goodbye to him. He’s a Giant and always will be a Giant..Just ask him, I did this summer when I went to a Dolphin training camp..He’s the same old Jersey guy he always has been. He loves the Giants…Alot of you younger guys just don’t get it.
Bobbi
Love that Parcells still loves the Giants.
But I did feel the end of your post could have used a dagnabit or something. ;)
by Joshua4Giants on Jan 1, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Agree with you a bit on Parcells he loved the Giants and the Mara's.
but the wierd thing with the Giants was George Young was the GM and he was picking the players and not Bill and despite the Dave Brown & Ray Handley debacle GY drafted some AWSOME players and brought in some good coaches so it would have been tough to let GY go and let Bill stay. As the Giants won Pracells ego grew and he wanted more input on drafting players. In fact it’s been documented Parcells and GY argued over who to draft in the first round in 1990. Parcells wanted some LB that lasted 3 years in the league, GY wanted Rodney Hampton. Bill knew football and talent but so did GY so it was a tough spot for the organization. I think the two ego’s could not co-exhist. They did’nt bring him back in 97 becasue GY had appoinited EA as his successor and obviously Bill wanted both roll so it probabbly would not of worked.
Bill always looked to improve the D.
Young had a more balanced approach.
Bill Parcells..
Always builds his teams on a defensive foundation..and it always works..and yes there was a major clash of egos and has been wherever he’s been based on that..Rodney Hampton was a bust….I am not even attempting to say George Young didn’t help the team, but you win with a solid defense..which is exactly why we are on the outside looking in this year…and I don’t feel spoiled, which is something I’ve read comments on here..about how much we should be thankful for them achieving play-off berths over the past several years..We deserve it every year that is the whole objective. Alot of us old-timers have been there to feel the misery of having one or two guys to root for, but no well rounded team to root for..Pretty sad when all you had to keep you excited was Marty Glickman keeping you enthiused about the Giants games and having just a couple of players excel..
Got to disagree about Hampton
He was great until the injuries. As it was, his career lasted a bit longer than that of the average RB, certainly more than the time cited for Bill’s pick in that draft.
Hampton played from 90-97
he had 5 straight 1,000 yard seasons 91-95 made a couple of pro bowls and retired as the Giants alltime leading rusher. If he did’nt break his foot in the playoff game vs the Bears in 90 he probabbly would have been MVP of that Bills SB. I’d say he was prety darn good better and more durable than BJ is now.
Shoot, I'd forgotten it was the foot.
Thought it had been knees. Hope for the best with AB. An RB with bad feet is like a boxer with bad hands, limited. I remeber a coule who never got title shots because of bad hands.
The only thing that encourages me about AB is
he’s had series feet injuries all year and still played well. Unlike BJ at least when AB is not 100% he’s still pretty effective whereas if BJ is not 100% you know were in for the Ron Dayne show.
Rodney Hampton a bust?
Hampton was great.
McKenzie, Pierce and Plaxico
were all 05 Free Agent pickups. . . Robbins and O’Hara were FA’s in 04 I would say they were big parts of the 07 team.
Lomas BRown, Glenn Parker, Kerry Collins and Micahel Barrow were FA pick ups in 99 and 2000 they don’t get to that SB without them especially Kerry. Kerry Collins was a bold FA pickup that rescued the Giants from the Dave Brown, Kent Grahm, Danny Kannel era. Sure Kerry had his issues and was not great but he was a tremendous upgrade from the JV QB’s we had before him and brought respectability back to the QB position and gave that O some life. EA took a lot of heat for that signing but EA almost delivered a SB title with the signing of a few key players. So I think you’re underestimating a bit how important it is to bring in key FA’s.
Yes the draft is more important and I agree FA rarley solves long term solutions. Brown and Parker broke down by 01 and Kerry was more of stop gap to Eli. But my worry is without a salary cap is not as much of signing the big name players but rather do the Giants let good solid players who are not great but good starters (Think, Gibril Wilson, Cornealus Giffen types even FA’s like K. Mitchell) sign elsewhere after their contracts expire becasue they don’t want to pay while our divisional rivals keep their homegrown talent and built on the continutiy of their team. I think thats a real worry to have considering the division and teams were competing with. And considering I’m paying for PSL I god-dam expect them tooo!
the front office
is one of the most widely respected in the league. ex-giants are fiercely loyal to the maras, and reese is an exceptional GM.
who would you rather have?
Did you just compare the Giants and the Jets?
Why…cuz the Jets have a shot at the playoffs still?
Hess and the Jets org. are a joke until proven otherwise.
Rex Ryan is doing nothing that Eric Mangini didn’t do in year one with the Jets…..
Wow...
the poll is not even close. After reading about some of the things Sherdian has said, I think one of his problems is denial. I don’t see anything from him that says his returning in 2010 will yield different results.
I think he's gone
whether he deserves it or not, someone’s getting the ax. What’s I’m concerned about is that when I was listening to the panther game on the radio, Papa and Banks said people were in position, just that no one made a play. Banks was adamant that you couldn’t blame the coordinator for that game, just filled with missed tackles
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Your right Will..you can't blame the coach for lack of tackling..sort of..
That was horrible..I can’t remember the Giants being so poor at tackling..even after getting burned they always left a memory for the guy carrying the ball with a hit and tackle..Last week they should have dressed up in Ballerina tu-tus…that’s how they played.
Well one thing is certain going into this last game..
Alot of players and coaches will be fighting for their jobs on Sunday…In many cases it will be too little too late..
The more I hear Sheridan's interviews...
the more he sounds like a delusional person.
If I can see right through him…I think the players do too.
Maybe they respect him to not call him out…but something’s up with him…
this team won't do ANYTHING
as long as Bill Sheridan has any say on the defensive playcalling.
He might actually be the worst coordinator in all of football
by mclaren_is_the_best on Jan 1, 2010 4:38 PM EST reply actions
Sad but true
The contention that a coach can’t be held accountable for missed tackles when it goes on week after week is nonsense. One or two games, okay. But not when it happens in over half of them.
I feel bad for Sheridan, but the results speak for themselves. The defense wasn’t just bad, it was virtually non-existent, and even the injuries don’t justify the total points the Giants gave up this season. Nothing does.
What is irritating about being a sports fan is that the sports writer treat NFL coaches with the kind of deference that used to be reserved for 5 star generals like Eisenhower and Bradley. These writers know damn well what it is going on in the clubhouse, but they never tell it to us until long afterwards.
I bring this up because it isn’t clear why the Giants defense was so incredibly bad this year. Was it lack of communication, bad relations between the DC and the rest of the defense, or was Sheridan in over his head. It could have been a combination.
But the Giants are going to have find the answer, because only when the problem is understood are they going to be able to fix it.
The Giants Ownership Worries Me.
I don’t trust John Mara, or The Tischs. They’re not football people. Despite Mara’s surname. They’re money over everything people. And if, due to their house that ripped off generations of the faithful, AKA the new Giants Stadium, being profitable means cutting off their nose to spite their team and fans, meaning staying profitable, they will do it. They know the fans will come, watch, buy. It’s an addiction for most of us. And they know they can screw us all to a certain extent — no banners flying, yet — so, yeah, they worry me. They have a recent superbowl. They have a new stadium. They can may be able to score a higher profit by not being competitive. Strangely, that’s business. I don’t put it past these owners. Call my cynical (it is my middle name) but don’t be surprised to see it play out this way. Peace. And Happy New Year.
No football owners are "football people"
the top owners hire good football people and let them do their job and the Giants do that. In fact the problem occurs when when these owners become too hands on and don’t allow the football people to do their jobs think Danny Boy in DC. I agree that with this new stadium the Giants are going to be more concerned with profit than ever before but I doubt they’ll turn into the Cinncinati Bengals, Cardinals, Jaguars, or Bills it is NY afterall. I’m more concerend with how they compete (sigining and resigning players and bringing in good coordiantors) compared to the top revenue teams which outside NE happen to reside in the NFC east.
Incompetent BS
Weather BS is competent or not, the players had played like they had no respect for the guy. They want him out!!
want him out.
Looks that way. That’s why he should go. If it’s one or two players, you can get rid of them, but you can’t start cutting them wholesale to keep a cpach.
players vs DC
Agree blue gonz .. Spags came in and did wonders with his scheme. Although I expected BS to have similar issues for a couple of games, I didn’t expect (nor can accept) that it would last all season.
Mis-communication, missed tackles, how many 40+ point games allowed, and (IMHO) absolutely no heart, no gang-tackling, no ‘buzzing around the field like wild dogs’ ..
Regardless of BS’s (supposed) knowledge of X’s and O’s .. he has proven he is not a leader of this Defense. I can not believe BS didn’t take part of the blame. As many have noted, he appears to be in denial. At this point I’d take my chances elsewhere. BS has got to go.
Go Gmen
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