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Discussing the kind of community we want

There was a really ugly incident here at Big Blue View over the weekend where a new commenter to the site dropped the 'N' word in reference to Sinorice Moss. That comment has been deleted, and the poster is no longer part of the BBV community.

My thanks, by the way, to those of you who 'flagged' that comment or e-mailed me to bring it to my attention.

There have also been some profanity-filled tirades and other 'over the line' comments lately.

Let me be as plain as I can. That kind of stuff will not be tolerated here, for any reason. This is not one of those places on the Internet where you can hide behind the anonymity of your screen name, and say anything you want about anyone  -- regardless of how vile or repugnant -- without consequences.

Big Blue View was created as a place for intelligent, mature and friendly discussion of the New York Giants and football in general. I will do everything in my power to make sure it stays that way.

With that in mind, the Community Guidelines have been re-written to explicitly lay out the type of community Big Blue View has always been, and will continue to be.

If you cannot live by these rules -- which, basically, comes down to acting like a mature, intelligent adult who can respect the opinions of others -- don't comment. No personal attacks, no profanity just for the sake of profanity, no juvenile ranting and no racism. If you don't like the rules and you haven't signed up, don't. Also, please try to use full words and spell things properly.

What makes this place special is the wonderful, knowledgeable, friendly community of people who come here every day. We welcome the new people coming here as the site grows, and we are glad to have you. We insist, however, that you follow the rules of the road.

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You Da Man Ed!

I love the way we keep this “place” clean and respectable. You my man, can give Roger Godell a run for his money any day. Keep up the most excellent work.

by njgiant on Sep 7, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BBV

I couldn’t agree more!

by pablob on Sep 7, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with it!

I´m new here at BBV but I can see it´s a nice, respectable and clean place. Keep going with the good work!

By the way, I´m from Brazil and I don´t have complete control of the english language. So, if I spell something wrong or make grammar mistakes, anyone can correct me.

Yeah, we like NFL here in Brazil.

by GiantsBRFan on Sep 7, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome

And dont b yoo need 2 worree. We all make mistakes every once in a while.

by njgiant on Sep 7, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mistakes

That’s all good. It just bugs me when people don’t even try, and don’t care.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 7, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hear Hear, Again

This is first my stop in the morning to get my G-man fix, Ed usually points the what ever is relevant. I know that hits is the goal of the inter-tubes, but I’d rather spend a night at a table with worthy friends than one at the club any time.

Conan!, What is good in Football?!

Daa.... to run between the tackles,
To drive the linebackers before you,
And to hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders.

by The Pale Scot on Sep 7, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, sir!

Now, if I could just get Goodell’s paycheck.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 7, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hear hear

Ed you have my full support in the action you took. Keep up the good work and we will try and help you as much as we can.

PS – any thoughts on the Woodson to Skins but not to get your signals debate?

by G Fan in England on Sep 7, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You've seen how Woodson plays.

It’s obvious that’s why they signed him. Let’s hope that his spying skills are as polished as his quarterbacking skills.

by njgiant on Sep 7, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL on Woodson

My question is does Woodson actually know the Giants offense well enough to tell the Redskins anything helpful? You couldn’t tell by his play on the field.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 7, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well the Skins can know the offense all they want, but that won’t help you when you’re getting barreled over and flattened by 265 beast pounds

by mahmoodzaky on Sep 7, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm new here...

…but I completely support you on this, Ed.

by hopeforthefuture3 on Sep 7, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree

I’m fairly new here…but glad that it is policed. Good job Ed.

by JRSu1 on Sep 8, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First Tine posting

First off congrats ED on the great reporting you got me through the LOOOOONG of season without football. OK speaking as a black man I hate the use of the N word be you black or white but hey people say it. And we all know with the internet everyone is brave behind the computer screen. I’m glad you came down hard and are maintaining a classy and intelligent blog I look forward to some interesting posts this season when our boys make there run toward the playoffs

by BlkNBlueNMD on Sep 7, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome aboard!

Any community, this one in particular, is a better place when we all show each other a little respect. After all, we are all here because we love the Giants.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 7, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll do what I can to up the quality in this place.

A smart Eagles fan will do that to a Giants site :D

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Sep 7, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!

You’re a funny guy, Joe! We’ll have to see who’s laughing at the end, though.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 7, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kind of like the Giants have to do when they visit Philly? oohhhh… lol

by mahmoodzaky on Sep 7, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have been on this site for about 2 months and u do an excellent job running it ed…. I was a bit suprised at the N word the guy used the other day and I have a lot of respect for taking complete action and banning that guy…. guys can be tough behing a screen… this site is very professional and I hardly ever see ppl use profanity of any kind… ed you handled the situation the right way now u have to do something with these eagles fans maybe kick them out…. lol j/k

by nycity on Sep 7, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Imus!! I told you you were banned from SBN!! lol

…but seriously, you can’t be an NFL fan and racist against black people also. If you are, then not only are you a racist and hateful person but you are also illogical and hypocritical in that you harbor whatever hatreds you have but then gladly watch a sport in which the majority of players are black. its like being a homophobe and watching queer eye, or hating canadians and watching hockey. the two can’t be reconciled.

by mahmoodzaky on Sep 7, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whats the ruckus?

Wow, I’m off the site a cpl days and stuff is hitting the fan. What the hell happened?

by wilddre22 on Sep 7, 2009 6:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I Don't Always Post

but I read just about everything on this site, and I think you do a great job, Ed. Thanks for keeping this site as a place I would like for my parents or my children to visit. Arguments are great, but sensless and ignorant hatred is unwanted by the vast majority of the members of this community.

by Aceholioo on Sep 7, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoa!

We all banter back and forth but that’s just out of line. Thanks for keeping it clean.

by Lucky7 on Sep 7, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

signed up tonight

I got word of this place just today from a fan I know who runs a political blog. Those type of blogs can get pretty rough and tumble. I don’t mind that. It goes with the territory, but I’m glad to find a place to help fix my Giants addiction that’s respectable and knowledgeable.

My brother is a diehard Cowboys fan. His daughter is named Dallas! I thought I was obsessed! The delusional dude did buy me an autographed LT jersey for my birthday this year though. So he isn’t all bad :o)

  I also work with another Cowboys fan and of all things…an Eagles fan. It can get downright unpleasant to say the least, when things don’t go right for my team! I also lived in Skins territory for ten years back in the 80’s heydey. There’s nothing sweeter than sporting the colors in enemy territory though!

Anyway, glad to be here and I look forward to the season and reading and posting about it here,

Blooz(er)

by blooz on Sep 7, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Blooz

That political blog wouldn’t be ‘Crooks & Liars,’ would it? We’re glad to have you.

by Ed Valentine on Sep 7, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

Nope, not Crooks and Liars. It’s a place called Booman Tribune. The top dog there is a lifer Giants fan like I am. In fact, that might be the only thing we agree on. hehe

by blooz on Sep 7, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oops

meant the above comment as a reply to Ed

by blooz on Sep 7, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C&L? BT?

So that’s why I find this place so comfy, It’s a nut free zone.

dragging out some history, I was a newby when back when I was involved in the “Seattle Incident”; I just applied my usual snark when commenting on the ’Gull’s site, hilariousness ensued. But when a guy writes 5000 word pieces on our “outdated” offense, how can you resist? Unless you’re Digby, nobody can pump that out every day and stay coherent

Conan!, What is good in Football?!

Daa.... to run between the tackles,
To drive the linebackers before you,
And to hear the lamentations of the cheerleaders.

by The Pale Scot on Sep 7, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember that

They shut up pretty damn quick that day.

by brisulph on Sep 8, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just signed up

lifelong new york fan here Giants ,mets, rangers and knicks, living near Pittsburgh. I think the steeler fans might be the most hardcore of all football fans. and it isnt easy being a minority.been reading this site for awhile [ keeps me sane ] decided to join and discuss giants with giants fans. after last year the steeler fans are really unbearable thanks for the site

by trueblue09 on Sep 7, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you know what I'd like?

I’d like the NFL to start counting pre-Superbowl Championships and include them with Superbowl Championships for those teams like the Giants who were dominant before there ever was a Superbowl.

If I here about the Sixburgh Steelers one more time I’m gonna….

The Giants own 7 overall League Championships.

by blooz on Sep 7, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea

but then you’d have to credit the Eagles with 3 championships, plus the Packers blow past everyone with 11 total ’chips.

by cjmulrain on Sep 8, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

credit where credit is due

is all I mean. Packers own 11. That’s cool with me. They earned it. Eagles too. I’m just not a fan of how the NFL measures success by Superbowl era wins.

 MLB doesn’t negate 3/4 of the Yanks chips because they came before playoffs were adopted.

by blooz on Sep 8, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

but it doesn’t count the SF Giants pre-World Series championships, either. MLB has just had two leagues for way longer than the NFL has.

by cjmulrain on Sep 8, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ranger fan huh?

Make sure you check out Blueshirt Banter, its a great site, and the guy that runs it is positively wonderful

Blueshirt Banter: Covering the New York Rangers

Big Blue View: Unofficial New York Giants blog

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 7, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Blue Shirt Banter

Congrats on getting a quote used in the Hockey News.

by brisulph on Sep 8, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you sir, it was quite an honor for me

Blueshirt Banter: Covering the New York Rangers

Big Blue View: Unofficial New York Giants blog

by Jim Schmiedeberg on Sep 8, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Been here for awhile..

And really enjoy the site. This site is for the fan who never tires of talking about his team and certainly can get enough news (though you certainly try Ed) about Big Blue.

So keep a clean house, we have a long season ahead of us.

by edzilla on Sep 7, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven’t commented before, but because of my work with a weekly paper here in the city (which includes covering your beloved Big Blue), I like to see what the buzz is among the fans. I just wanted to say that what I enjoy the most about SB Nation as a whole is that the communities here do a great job of not only policing itself, but actually engaging in conversation as opposed to trying to one-up commenters.

Just wanted to say that you are all doing a heck of a job and I am looking forward to further insights as the season progresses.

Jason Clinkscales
A Sports Scribe
http://asportsscribe.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/asportsscribe
http://newyorkbeacon.net

by Jason Clinkscales on Sep 7, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just joining the crowd. I don’t post here much but I really enjoy the smart conversations that show up all the time. Glad you’re sticking with the good folks and showing the not so good folks the door.

Someone really used the “n” word? Unreal.

by marakara on Sep 7, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Been reading for a while

havent commented much, but I read quite a bit. I’ve been quite active with SBN blogs for about 3 years though, and they are all great quality sites run by top tier people. Glad to know thats the case here too. I think you all will be seeing much more of me over the season’s duration. Its good to know theres a standard of quality and maturity expected of the members here. Keep up the great work.

by daveh873 on Sep 7, 2009 11:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anyone who would do such a thing is an idiot but,,,,,,

couldn’t the giants have waived another player and snuck him onto the practice squad in lieu of waiving Maurice Evans? He was a lock to get scooped up by another team. Am I buying in to too much preseason hype on an unproven player? Or could this become a regret for the G men?

In all seriousness anyone willing to use the “n” word while discussing football has larger problems. And is hardly indicative of the community of the big blue view.

But seriously, Maurice Evans?!!

by johnnutz on Sep 7, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

way to go....

ed v.that type of stuff shouldn’t be tolerated!then again,the stuff that comes out of eagles and cowboys fans mouths should all be cosidered profane too.can we do something about that while we’re at it?;) just kidding!

derek de pinho

by rbcarpenter on Sep 7, 2009 11:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love this place!!!

I have been a long time lurker on this site, but I finally created an account. This site by far has some of the most well-informed fans I have ever encountered. Keep up the good work and thanks for making this site respectable.

by DonDarko on Sep 8, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you...

I stumbled upon this website very recently (this is my first comment) and it is the best Giants website I have found. Thank you for keeping a high standard and demanding the same from the posters as we expect from the site. We’re all passionate fans and mature adults. No reason we can not act like it. Cheers and keep up the good work!

by Todd.dober on Sep 8, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is no place for immature, ignorant scummy's

Intellectual conversations, respect towards what other people have to say about their favorite teams are what make this website (and the Blueshirt Banter as well) so great. I remember my halo 2 days where the forums were overrun with the worst kids lol. Definitely not what what I want to see on this website when it’s typically populated by a more mature crowd.

by John Mjr on Sep 8, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta disagree Emmanuel...

Like it or not, it’s Ed’s site and he makes the rules. If you have a problem with the types of posts or words or whatever else he may choose to moderate (get it? Ed is the Moderator!!) then I’d suggest checking out another site. I understand that you feel like you have the right to say what you want; but understand that Ed also has the right to moderate what you say, ie it’s a two-way street. So if you want to say the types of things you are suggesting, I think you might be best served starting up your own blog. Otherwise you have to play by the rules here, like them or not. Think about that sign you see in most bars, “we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.”

by Cody K on Sep 8, 2009 5:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

You must have been that guy in school

whose dog ate the homework. You will have to excuse us if we don’t believe you.

And I wouldn’t feel too secure about the thought that God allowed you to say the word. It’s called free will. But free will doesn’t relieve you of your ultimate acountability for your deeds.

Anyway, I think I speak for all here when I say that this blog will be a better place without you.

by giant fan since 57 on Sep 8, 2009 5:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Even then

I do not see the need to use foul language, even if it is lesser words, when this is a forum which children can read.

Such words do not add anything to your post.

This is Ed’s house and we must comply with his rules if we want to enter!

by G Fan in England on Sep 8, 2009 6:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"It was a friend at my PC" excuse

When I was 24 and had 2 girlfriends, GF1 opened my e-mail and found one from GF2. I told her it must have been a weird coincidental email sent to the wrong e-mail address, you know, misdelivered or whatever. And she BELIEVED ME. I have never actually received someone else’s e-mail in my life. Wow.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Sep 8, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Amen!

It’s this higher standard that keeps me coming back. I love this site a lil more every day.

by YankeeDudeL on Sep 8, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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